Re: sound cards locked, No Host

2023-11-06 Thread Thomas George

good point but no success.

used top to find blender and kill. no improvement

On 11/6/23 10:53, Marco M. wrote:

Am 06.11.2023 um 10:26:53 Uhr schrieb Thomas George:


alsactl says sound cards locked. There is a lock directory in
var/lib/alsa/asound-state

mpv song.ogg fails with message No Host

There may be solutions in the debian-user archives. I am slowly
reading these in search of a solution.

Any help?

Is any application using alsa?

What about PulseAudio or Pipewire?





Re: sound cards locked, No Host

2023-11-06 Thread Marco M.
Am 06.11.2023 um 10:26:53 Uhr schrieb Thomas George:

> alsactl says sound cards locked. There is a lock directory in 
> var/lib/alsa/asound-state
> 
> mpv song.ogg fails with message No Host
> 
> There may be solutions in the debian-user archives. I am slowly
> reading these in search of a solution.
> 
> Any help?

Is any application using alsa?

What about PulseAudio or Pipewire?



Re: Sound only as root

2023-10-18 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2023, 13:16:32 CEST schrieb Greg Wooledge:
Hi Greg,

I get the same results as you got. So it is proven, that my system is in good 
condition and everything is well configured. This is an important point for my 
search! 

And no, this system is pure Debian (except that is been upgraded since many 
many years. I believe, the first installation was 2010 or so). 

Debian is so stable and reliable, so I did not need change much. Of course 
packages are uninstalled during that long time and things also changed (like 
alsa, then pulseaudio and now wireplumber / pipewire for example).

And as a carefull user, I purged old configurations (using aptitude purge ~c)

So, this is just clean Debian 12 stable. 

Hope, the vendor of the application will also have some hints. Fine is, I am 
now sure and it is proven, my system is set correctly. This is an important 
point for me.

Thanks for the feedback.

Best 

Hans

> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:25:51AM +0200, Hans wrote:
> > I am in the group "audio".
> > 
> > correct:
> > 
> > /dev/snd = root:root , drwxr-xr-x
> > 
> > All others below /dev/snd are set
> > 
> > crw-rw--- = root:audio
> 
> It would help if you pasted the actual "ls -l" output.  Here's mine
> for comparison:
> 
> unicorn:~$ ls -l /dev/snd
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   60 Oct  7 08:49 by-id/
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   80 Oct  7 08:49 by-path/
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 10 Oct  7 08:49 controlC0
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 12 Oct  7 08:49 controlC1
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  8 Oct  7 08:49 hwC0D0
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  9 Oct  7 08:49 hwC0D2
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  3 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D0c
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  2 Oct  7 08:57 pcmC0D0p
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  4 Oct  7 08:49 pcmC0D2c
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  5 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D3p
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  6 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D7p
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  7 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D8p
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 11 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC1D0c
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  1 Oct  7 08:49 seq
> crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Oct  7 08:49 timer
> 
> You see those "+" signs at the ends of the permission strings?  Those
> are super important here.  When you login to Debian, there's various
> black magic that happens with "session" and "seats" and so on.  One
> of the things involved in that magic is adding your account to the
> ACL on the audio devices.  For instance,
> 
> unicorn:~$ getfacl /dev/snd/hwC0D0
> getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
> # file: dev/snd/hwC0D0
> # owner: root
> # group: audio
> user::rw-
> user:greg:rw-
> group::rw-
> mask::rw-
> other::---
> 
> 
> If yours isn't doing that, then we have a problem.  In fact, the very
> first thing I wondered when I read your post was "Is this actually a
> Debian system, or is it something like Devuan?"  If you've altered the
> login stuff, for example by trying to remove systemd, then you might
> have broken the session/seat magic that sets up the ACLs.






Re: Sound only as root

2023-10-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 07:16:32AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

[...]

> You see those "+" signs at the ends of the permission strings?  Those
> are super important here.  When you login to Debian, there's various
> black magic that happens with "session" and "seats" and so on.  One
> of the things involved in that magic is adding your account to the
> ACL on the audio devices.  For instance,

Thanks for that other POV, which is most probably relevant to Hans.

I'm in the happy camp of not needing all those pluses. My laptop
has no seats ;-)

Cheers
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Re: Sound only as root

2023-10-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:25:51AM +0200, Hans wrote:
> I am in the group "audio".

> correct:
> 
> /dev/snd = root:root , drwxr-xr-x
> 
> All others below /dev/snd are set 
> 
> crw-rw--- = root:audio

It would help if you pasted the actual "ls -l" output.  Here's mine
for comparison:

unicorn:~$ ls -l /dev/snd
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   60 Oct  7 08:49 by-id/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   80 Oct  7 08:49 by-path/
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 10 Oct  7 08:49 controlC0
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 12 Oct  7 08:49 controlC1
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  8 Oct  7 08:49 hwC0D0
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  9 Oct  7 08:49 hwC0D2
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  3 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  2 Oct  7 08:57 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  4 Oct  7 08:49 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  5 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D3p
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  6 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D7p
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  7 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC0D8p
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 11 Oct  7 08:50 pcmC1D0c
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  1 Oct  7 08:49 seq
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Oct  7 08:49 timer

You see those "+" signs at the ends of the permission strings?  Those
are super important here.  When you login to Debian, there's various
black magic that happens with "session" and "seats" and so on.  One
of the things involved in that magic is adding your account to the
ACL on the audio devices.  For instance,

unicorn:~$ getfacl /dev/snd/hwC0D0
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/snd/hwC0D0
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:greg:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---


If yours isn't doing that, then we have a problem.  In fact, the very
first thing I wondered when I read your post was "Is this actually a
Debian system, or is it something like Devuan?"  If you've altered the
login stuff, for example by trying to remove systemd, then you might
have broken the session/seat magic that sets up the ACLs.



Re: Sound only as root

2023-10-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:14:33PM +0200, Hans wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2023, 12:01:01 CEST schrieb Marco M:
> Please read my mail:
> 
> --- snip 
> 
> Environment: 
> 
> Debian stable with* pipewire*, window manager is plasma5 (but every other wm 
> shows the same problem).
> 
> *I am in the group "audio".*

Yes, you stated it in your original post.

> What might first help, I would like to know, if the settings of /dev/snd/* 
> are 
> correct:
> 
> /dev/snd = root:root , drwxr-xr-x

They look about the same on my box. But note that I still
use ALSA directly.

> All others below /dev/snd are set 
> 
> crw-rw--- = root:audio

You might try running the application under strace. With
some luck and patience you might spot where it's trying to
do things and failing.

Cheers
-- 
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Re: Sound only as root

2023-10-18 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2023, 12:01:01 CEST schrieb Marco M:
Please read my mail:

--- snip 

Environment: 

Debian stable with* pipewire*, window manager is plasma5 (but every other wm 
shows the same problem).

*I am in the group "audio".*

What might first help, I would like to know, if the settings of /dev/snd/* are 
correct:

/dev/snd = root:root , drwxr-xr-x

All others below /dev/snd are set 

crw-rw--- = root:audio

> Am Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:25:51 +0200
> 
> schrieb Hans :
> > Please note, that generally sound is working as a normal user, only
> > this application needs root.
> 
> Are you in the group "audio"?
> Does the application use PipeWire or PulseAudio?
> Check pavucontrol.

Pipewire has a pulseaudio module. But before I tested with pulseaudio, both 
showed no 
difference and no success.

Best

Hans


Re: Sound only as root

2023-10-18 Thread Marco M
Am Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:25:51 +0200
schrieb Hans :

> Please note, that generally sound is working as a normal user, only
> this application needs root.

Are you in the group "audio"?
Does the application use PipeWire or PulseAudio?
Check pavucontrol.



Re: Sound loses my analog speakers after suspend, and power settings don't affect monitor poweroff

2023-08-12 Thread Carl Fink

On 8/12/23 01:05, Marco wrote:

sudo dmesg | grep snd


So I did that, and whether or not my analog audio was recognized, the 
output was:



[    4.199233] snd_pci_acp6x :66:00.5: enabling device ( -> 0002)
[    4.241643] snd_hda_intel :66:00.1: enabling device ( -> 0002)
[    4.241700] snd_hda_intel :66:00.1: Handle vga_switcheroo audio 
client

[    4.241952] snd_hda_intel :66:00.6: enabling device ( -> 0002)
[    4.291237] snd_hda_intel :66:00.1: bound :66:00.0 (ops 
amdgpu_dm_audio_component_bind_ops [amdgpu])
[    4.323237] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0: autoconfig for ALC256: 
line_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:hp
[    4.323241] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0: speaker_outs=0 
(0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[    4.323243] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0:    hp_outs=0 
(0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)

[    4.323244] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
[    4.323245] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0:    inputs:
[    4.323247] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0:  Mic=0x19


-Carl Fink



Re: Sound loses my analog speakers after suspend, and power settings don't affect monitor poweroff

2023-08-11 Thread Marco
Now run 
sudo dmesg | grep snd

to see if any error in the kernel module occurs.



Re: Sound loses my analog speakers after suspend, and power settings don't affect monitor poweroff

2023-08-11 Thread Carl Fink

On 8/10/23 02:54, Marco wrote:

Am 09.08.2023 schrieb Carl Fink :


I suspended my system from the System menu Monday night. When I woke
it up Tuesday morning, sound was coming from the HDMI monitor. The
Sound Settings didn't know about any other sound system.

This sounds like a driver problem with the soundcard. HDMI is realized
with the graphics card, analog with a onboard sound card, mostly
integrated into the chipset.

Run lspci -nnk
when it works and when it doesn't work.


Thanks. I did just that, and I attach the output of both commands here.

I switched from Mate to xfce4, which didn't affect anything from my 
previous

message. The sound subsystem still forgets the external speakers exist. No
matter what power settings I use, they don't shut off the monitors. I am
thinking this is likely to be related to the power management system, rather
than the sound support built into the Ryzen 6800.

-Carl Fink

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe Root Complex [1022:14b5] (rev 01)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h-19h PCIe Root Complex 
[1043:8870]
00:00.2 IOMMU [0806]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h IOMMU 
[1022:14b6]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h-19h IOMMU [1043:8870]
00:01.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:14b7] (rev 01)
00:01.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:14ba]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h-19h PCIe GPP Bridge 
[1043:8870]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:02.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:14b7] (rev 01)
DeviceName:  Onboard IGD
00:02.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:14ba]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h-19h PCIe GPP Bridge 
[1043:8870]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:02.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:14ba]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h-19h PCIe GPP Bridge 
[1043:8870]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:02.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:14ba]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h-19h PCIe GPP Bridge 
[1043:8870]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:02.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:14ba]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h-19h PCIe GPP Bridge 
[1043:8870]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:03.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:14b7] (rev 01)
00:03.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 19h 
USB4/Thunderbolt PCIe tunnel [1022:14cd]
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 19h 
USB4/Thunderbolt PCIe tunnel [1022:1453]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:04.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:14b7] (rev 01)
00:04.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 19h 
USB4/Thunderbolt PCIe tunnel [1022:14cd]
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 19h 
USB4/Thunderbolt PCIe tunnel [1022:1453]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:08.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:14b7] (rev 01)
00:08.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
Internal PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:14b9] (rev 10)
Subsystem: Device [8870:1043]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:08.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h-19h 
Internal PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:14b9] (rev 10)
Subsystem: Device [8870:1043]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller 
[1022:790b] (rev 71)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. FCH SMBus Controller [1043:8870]
Kernel driver in use: piix4_smbus
Kernel modules: i2c_piix4, sp5100_tco
00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge 
[1022:790e] (rev 51)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. FCH LPC Bridge [1043:8870]
00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Rembrandt Data 
Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0 [1022:1679]
00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Rembrandt Data 
Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1 [1022:167a]
00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Rembrandt Data 
Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2 [1022:167b]
00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Rembrandt Data 
Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3 [1022:167c]
Kernel driver in use: k10temp
Kernel modules: 

Re: Sound loses my analog speakers after suspend, and power settings don't affect monitor poweroff

2023-08-10 Thread Marco
Am 09.08.2023 schrieb Carl Fink :

> I suspended my system from the System menu Monday night. When I woke
> it up Tuesday morning, sound was coming from the HDMI monitor. The
> Sound Settings didn't know about any other sound system.

This sounds like a driver problem with the soundcard. HDMI is realized
with the graphics card, analog with a onboard sound card, mostly
integrated into the chipset.

Run lspci -nnk
when it works and when it doesn't work.



Re: Sound

2021-11-21 Thread deloptes
Gunnar Gervin wrote:

> Hi again. Please help me get sound.
> Installed Debian again in my 2,1 Macbook from 2017, works, but no sound in
> internal speakers, or in headphones.
> Plugged in external speakers, which worked, but then disappeared.
> Pulse audio program is installed, but does not give response in the form
> of sound..
> BR,
> Gunnar G

what always used to help was to start alsamixer for the right hardware
(usually alsamixer -c0) and unmute the PCM device (or check some outputs
for muted and unmute)


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Re: Sound

2021-11-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:03:20AM +0200, Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> Hi again. Please help me get sound.
> Installed Debian again in my 2,1 Macbook from 2017, works, but no sound in
> internal speakers, or in headphones.
> Plugged in external speakers, which worked, but then disappeared.
> Pulse audio program is installed, but does not give response in the form of
> sound..
> BR,
> Gunnar G

Hi Gunnar,

OK. Not really enough information here to go on. 

1. What version of Debian

2. What does Lspci report for the chipset / audio

3. Do you have a desktop environment loaded? 

4. Shich one?

5. Does it have a settings app?

6. Does it work at all if you play, say, a YouTube video / has it ever worked?

If you can help us with information, we may be better able to help you.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater



Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-13 Thread Thomas Amm
On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 22:52 +0530, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
> I have a fresh Bullseye installation on a laptop. Sound output is
> working. But the input is not working. The device is detected.
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ arecord -l
>  List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC236 Analog [ALC236 Analog]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> In the gnome settings, input is showing built-in microphone but there
> is
> not movement in the capturing indicator.
> 
> alsamixer is also showing the sound card (F6) - HDA Intel PCH.
> 

Had the same problem,

apt-get purge pipewire
apt-get --purge autoremove

did the job. According to several posts on this list, pipewire doesn't
seem to work properly. Unfortunately there was no changelog warning
when upgrading and pipewire's developers do not seem to care much about
documentation.



Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 04 sep 21, 12:58:14, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 07:47:02 +0530
> Pankaj Jangid  wrote:
> > 
> > Output of ‘amixer -c0’
> > 
> > --8<---cut here---start->8---
> > $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> >  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
> >   HDA Intel PCH at 0xb1328000 irq 137
> > 
> > $ amixer -c0
> > Simple mixer control 'Master',0
> >   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Mono
> >   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
> >   Mono: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
> > Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
> >   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
> >   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
> >   Mono:
> >   Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
> >   Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
> > Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0
> >   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
> >   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
> >   Mono:
> >   Front Left: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
> >   Front Right: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
> > Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
> >   Capabilities: pvolume
> >   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Limits: Playback 0 - 255
> >   Mono:
> >   Front Left: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
> >   Front Right: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
> > Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
> >   Capabilities: volume
> >   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Limits: 0 - 3
> >   Front Left: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
> >   Front Right: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
> > Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
> >   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Mono
> >   Mono: Playback [off]
> > Simple mixer control 'IEC958',1
> >   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Mono
> >   Mono: Playback [on]
> > Simple mixer control 'IEC958',2
> >   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Mono
> >   Mono: Playback [on]
> > Simple mixer control 'IEC958',3
> >   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Mono
> >   Mono: Playback [on]
> > Simple mixer control 'IEC958',4
> >   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Mono
> >   Mono: Playback [on]
> > Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
> >   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
> >   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Limits: Capture 0 - 63
> >   Front Left: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
> >   Front Right: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
> > Simple mixer control 'Auto-Mute Mode',0
> >   Capabilities: enum
> >   Items: 'Disabled' 'Enabled'
> >   Item0: 'Enabled'
> > Simple mixer control 'Internal Mic Boost',0
> >   Capabilities: volume
> >   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Limits: 0 - 3
> >   Front Left: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
> >   Front Right: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
> > --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> > 
> 
> Your control 'Capture',0 is turned on and volume is at maximum, so
> that's fine, but you don't have 'input source' control. On my machine
> output of 'amixer -c0' gives among other controls the following:
> 
> Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
>   Capabilities: cenum
>   Items: 'Rear Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
>   Item0: 'Rear Mic'
> 
> I suppose this is the reason why your capture is not working, but don't
> know how to fix it.

Well, there's no "Internal Mic" and "Mic" to choose from, so maybe 
that's the problem.

@Pankaj, do you have a microphone connected to the audio (combo) jack 
and/or maybe the internal microphone is disabled in EFI and/or from 
hotkeys?

> You might try to install kernel 5.13 from
> experimental or newest vanilla stable which is currently 5.14.1 (take
> care not to make your system unbootable). Also you might try with newer
> alsa userland software.

Or this...

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-04 Thread Pankaj Jangid
Marko Randjelovic  writes:

> Your control 'Capture',0 is turned on and volume is at maximum, so
> that's fine, but you don't have 'input source' control. On my machine
> output of 'amixer -c0' gives among other controls the following:
>
> Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
>   Capabilities: cenum
>   Items: 'Rear Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
>   Item0: 'Rear Mic'
>
> I suppose this is the reason why your capture is not working, but don't
> know how to fix it. You might try to install kernel 5.13 from
> experimental or newest vanilla stable which is currently 5.14.1 (take
> care not to make your system unbootable). Also you might try with newer
> alsa userland software.

Hmm... I have returned from the macos world. I need to regain speed to
do all that. It has been a couple of years now. ;-)




Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-04 Thread Pankaj Jangid
"Andrew M.A. Cater"  writes:

> Very new laptop? Does it need Intel firmware for the soundcard? 
> firmware-intel-sound from non-free? 
>
> https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/firmware-intel-sound

Thanks for the advice, Andy. I just tried it. But this did not work. I
even rebooted the system after installing. That did not make any
difference.




Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-04 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 07:47:02 +0530
Pankaj Jangid  wrote:

> Marko Randjelovic  writes:
> 
> > Did you make sure:
> >
> > 1. correct device is set to record from 
> > 2. recording is enabled
> > 3. input volume is large enough  
> 
> I guess I have only one device so there is nothing to set.

I meant 'input source'. On my machine it can be:

'Rear Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'

> 
> How is recording enabled? Do I need to add myself to some group? I am
> member of followin groups: pankaj cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video
> plugdev netdev bluetooth scanner.

You are member of audio group, so that's fine. By 'recording enabled I
meant on/off switch.

> 
> I have tried to set input volume using various knobs in gnome settings
> as well as alsamixer. It did not work.
> 
> >> If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check.  
> >
> > In fact, unless you have only one sound device, the command should
> > be 'amixer -cN' where N is the number of your sound card and can change
> > after reboot. So first you have to type 'cat /proc/asound/cards' to
> > find your card number.  
> 
> Output of ‘amixer’
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ amixer
> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 64880 [99%] [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 64880 [99%] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Capture 0 - 65536
>   Front Left: Capture 65540 [100%] [on]
>   Front Right: Capture 65540 [100%] [on]
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> Output of ‘amixer -c0’
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>   HDA Intel PCH at 0xb1328000 irq 137
> 
> $ amixer -c0
> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
>   Mono: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
>   Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 255
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
>   Front Right: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
> Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
>   Capabilities: volume
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: 0 - 3
>   Front Left: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
>   Front Right: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [off]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',1
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',2
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',3
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',4
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Capture 0 - 63
>   Front Left: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
>   Front Right: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Auto-Mute Mode',0
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'Disabled' 'Enabled'
>   Item0: 'Enabled'
> Simple mixer control 'Internal Mic Boost',0
>   Capabilities: volume
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: 0 - 3
>   Front Left: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
>   Front Right: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 

Your control 'Capture',0 is turned on and volume is at maximum, so
that's fine, but you don't have 'input source' control. On my machine
output of 'amixer -c0' gives among other controls the following:

Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
  Capabilities: cenum
  Items: 'Rear Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
  Item0: 'Rear Mic'

I suppose this is the reason why your capture is not working, but don't
know how to fix it. You might try to install kernel 

Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 10:52:45PM +0530, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
> I have a fresh Bullseye installation on a laptop. Sound output is
> working. But the input is not working. The device is detected.
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ arecord -l
>  List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC236 Analog [ALC236 Analog]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> In the gnome settings, input is showing built-in microphone but there is
> not movement in the capturing indicator.
> 
> alsamixer is also showing the sound card (F6) - HDA Intel PCH.
> 

Very new laptop? Does it need Intel firmware for the soundcard? 
firmware-intel-sound from non-free? 

https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/firmware-intel-sound

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater



Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-03 Thread Pankaj Jangid
Marko Randjelovic  writes:

> Did you make sure:
>
> 1. correct device is set to record from 
> 2. recording is enabled
> 3. input volume is large enough

I guess I have only one device so there is nothing to set.

How is recording enabled? Do I need to add myself to some group? I am
member of followin groups: pankaj cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video
plugdev netdev bluetooth scanner.

I have tried to set input volume using various knobs in gnome settings
as well as alsamixer. It did not work.

>> If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check.
>
> In fact, unless you have only one sound device, the command should
> be 'amixer -cN' where N is the number of your sound card and can change
> after reboot. So first you have to type 'cat /proc/asound/cards' to
> find your card number.

Output of ‘amixer’

--8<---cut here---start->8---
$ amixer
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 64880 [99%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 64880 [99%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 65536
  Front Left: Capture 65540 [100%] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 65540 [100%] [on]
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Output of ‘amixer -c0’

--8<---cut here---start->8---
$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
  HDA Intel PCH at 0xb1328000 irq 137

$ amixer -c0
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 87
  Mono: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 87
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 87
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
  Front Right: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
  Front Right: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',1
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',2
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',3
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',4
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 63
  Front Left: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Auto-Mute Mode',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Disabled' 'Enabled'
  Item0: 'Enabled'
Simple mixer control 'Internal Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
--8<---cut here---end--->8---



Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-03 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 20:48:52 +0200
Marko Randjelovic  wrote:

> If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check.

In fact, unless you have only one sound device, the command should
be 'amixer -cN' where N is the number of your sound card and can change
after reboot. So first you have to type 'cat /proc/asound/cards' to
find your card number.



Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

2021-09-03 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 22:52:45 +0530
Pankaj Jangid  wrote:

> I have a fresh Bullseye installation on a laptop. Sound output is
> working. But the input is not working. The device is detected.
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ arecord -l
>  List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC236 Analog [ALC236 Analog]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> In the gnome settings, input is showing built-in microphone but there is
> not movement in the capturing indicator.
> 
> alsamixer is also showing the sound card (F6) - HDA Intel PCH.
> 

Did you make sure:

1. correct device is set to record from 
2. recording is enabled
3. input volume is large enough

If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check.



Re: Sound issue in bulleye with USB Headset and Internal Audio

2021-04-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 07 apr 21, 23:49:46, deloptes wrote:
> Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> 
> > I have a bullseye system with an on-board Intel sound device and a
> > Logitech USB headset. Everything works perfect, if I boot without the USB
> > headset plugged in. Both devices are detected and I can switch between
> > them as expected. If I boot with the USB headset plugged in, inxi still
> > finds both devices, but pacmd list-cards outputs only the USB headset. I
> > am wondering if that is a pulseaudio feature or a bug.
> 
> don't know if it will help but it is always a good idea to give index > 0 to
> usb audio
> 
> $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
> options snd_hda_intel index=0
> options snd-usb-audio index=1

This is taken care of automatically for most cases:

$ grep snd-usb-audio /lib/modprobe.d/aliases.conf
options snd-usb-audio index=-2


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Re: Sound issue in bulleye with USB Headset and Internal Audio

2021-04-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 07 apr 21, 20:38:46, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 7. April 2021, 19:47:47 CEST schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> > On Mi, 07 apr 21, 18:39:21, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I have a bullseye system with an on-board Intel sound device and a
> > > Logitech
> > > USB headset. Everything works perfect, if I boot without the USB headset
> > > plugged in. Both devices are detected and I can switch between them as
> > > expected. If I boot with the USB headset plugged in, inxi still finds both
> > > devices, but pacmd list-cards outputs only the USB headset. I am wondering
> > > if that is a pulseaudio feature or a bug.
> > 
> > Please post the output of 'aplay -l' in both cases.
> 
> For me it looks identical, but see yourself:

This is ok, at least there doesn't appear to be conflict at ALSA level.

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Re: Sound issue in bulleye with USB Headset and Internal Audio

2021-04-07 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Mittwoch, 7. April 2021, 20:38:46 CEST schrieb Rainer Dorsch:
> Am Mittwoch, 7. April 2021, 19:47:47 CEST schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> > On Mi, 07 apr 21, 18:39:21, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I have a bullseye system with an on-board Intel sound device and a
> > > Logitech
> > > USB headset. Everything works perfect, if I boot without the USB headset
> > > plugged in. Both devices are detected and I can switch between them as
> > > expected. If I boot with the USB headset plugged in, inxi still finds
> > > both
> > > devices, but pacmd list-cards outputs only the USB headset. I am
> > > wondering
> > > if that is a pulseaudio feature or a bug.
> > 
> > Please post the output of 'aplay -l' in both cases.
> 
> [...]

Small update: I cannot really repro anymore that the on-board sound works, 
even if I boot w/o a headset, I saw this correlation several times in the 
past, but right now, pulseaudio always seems to be unhappy with on-board 
sound, e.g. if I boot without USB headset:

rd@h370:~$ pacmd list-cards
0 card(s) available.
rd@h370:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
rd@h370:~$ 

Any idea or hint is welcome.

Regards
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Re: Sound issue in bulleye with USB Headset and Internal Audio

2021-04-07 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Mittwoch, 7. April 2021, 19:47:47 CEST schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> On Mi, 07 apr 21, 18:39:21, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have a bullseye system with an on-board Intel sound device and a
> > Logitech
> > USB headset. Everything works perfect, if I boot without the USB headset
> > plugged in. Both devices are detected and I can switch between them as
> > expected. If I boot with the USB headset plugged in, inxi still finds both
> > devices, but pacmd list-cards outputs only the USB headset. I am wondering
> > if that is a pulseaudio feature or a bug.
> 
> Please post the output of 'aplay -l' in both cases.

For me it looks identical, but see yourself:

If USB headset is plugged at boot:

rd@h370:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Headset [Logitech USB Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
rd@h370:~$ 

If USB headset is not plugged at boot, before plugging the headset:

rd@h370:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
rd@h370:~$ 

If USB headset is not plugged at boot, after plugging the headset:

rd@h370:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Headset [Logitech USB Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
rd@h370:~$ 

Thanks
Rainer

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Re: Sound issue in bulleye with USB Headset and Internal Audio

2021-04-07 Thread deloptes
Rainer Dorsch wrote:

> I have a bullseye system with an on-board Intel sound device and a
> Logitech USB headset. Everything works perfect, if I boot without the USB
> headset plugged in. Both devices are detected and I can switch between
> them as expected. If I boot with the USB headset plugged in, inxi still
> finds both devices, but pacmd list-cards outputs only the USB headset. I
> am wondering if that is a pulseaudio feature or a bug.

don't know if it will help but it is always a good idea to give index > 0 to
usb audio

$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
options snd_hda_intel index=0
options snd-usb-audio index=1





Re: Sound issue in bulleye with USB Headset and Internal Audio

2021-04-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 07 apr 21, 18:39:21, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a bullseye system with an on-board Intel sound device and a Logitech 
> USB headset. Everything works perfect, if I boot without the USB headset 
> plugged in. Both devices are detected and I can switch between them as 
> expected. If I boot with the USB headset plugged in, inxi still finds both 
> devices, but pacmd list-cards outputs only the USB headset. I am wondering if 
> that is a pulseaudio feature or a bug.

Please post the output of 'aplay -l' in both cases.


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Re: Sound issue in bulleye with USB Headset and Internal Audio

2021-04-07 Thread Robbi Nespu

On 4/8/21 12:39 AM, Rainer Dorsch wrote:

system with an on-board Intel sound device and a Logitech
USB headset. Everything works perfect, if I boot without the USB headset
plugged in. Both devices are detected and I can switch between them a
Try checking "dmesg --human" output, there maybe something from there . 
Try compare it for both situation


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Re: Sound Issue

2021-02-07 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Thank you for your reply, Andrea.

Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021, 23:52:24 CET schrieb Andrea Borgia:
> Il 06/02/21 20:53, Rainer Dorsch ha scritto:
> > sound was working for years on my Debian System w/o any issue with
> > pulseaudio. Since a few weeks I have problems with the on-board Intel
> > sound, listed as
> I'm having a similar issue and it might be because of this bug:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=980836

I am on stable with 12.2-4+deb10u1
 
> 
> With this command I get the audio back, at least until the next reboot
> or plug/unplug cycle:
> 
> pacmd unload-module module-udev-detect && pacmd load-module
> module-udev-detect
> 

Does not work for me.

Maybe that is the sign to upgrade to bullseye :-)

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Re: Sound Issue

2021-02-06 Thread Andrea Borgia

Il 06/02/21 20:53, Rainer Dorsch ha scritto:



sound was working for years on my Debian System w/o any issue with pulseaudio.
Since a few weeks I have problems with the on-board Intel sound, listed as


I'm having a similar issue and it might be because of this bug: 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=980836



With this command I get the audio back, at least until the next reboot 
or plug/unplug cycle:


pacmd unload-module module-udev-detect && pacmd load-module 
module-udev-detect



Regards,

Andrea.




Re: Sound does not work on Debian 10

2020-12-31 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev

On 31.12.2020 18:06, Hassans Tech wrote:

In addition, the output of aplay -l
 Is: List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Audio [Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio], device 0: HdmiLpeAudio [Intel 
HDMI/DP LPE Audi]

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Audio [Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio], device 1: HdmiLpeAudio [Intel 
HDMI/DP LPE Audi]

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Audio [Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio], device 2: HdmiLpeAudio [Intel 
HDMI/DP LPE Audi]

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: bytchtes8316 [bytcht-es8316], device 0: Audio (*) []
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: bytchtes8316 [bytcht-es8316], device 1: Deep-Buffer Audio (*) []
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
haf@UNKNOWN:~$
It looks like sound card is detected, but enumerated in wrong order. Try 
to set card 1 as default [1] and see if that will solve your problem.

If not send output from commands below:
    $ aplay -L | grep -e ':CARD'
    $ lshw -c multimedia


[1] 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Set_the_default_sound_card


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Re: Sound does not work on Debian 10

2020-12-31 Thread Hassans Tech
In addition, the output of aplay -l
 Is: List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Audio [Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio], device 0: HdmiLpeAudio [Intel
HDMI/DP LPE Audi]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Audio [Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio], device 1: HdmiLpeAudio [Intel
HDMI/DP LPE Audi]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Audio [Intel HDMI/DP LPE Audio], device 2: HdmiLpeAudio [Intel
HDMI/DP LPE Audi]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: bytchtes8316 [bytcht-es8316], device 0: Audio (*) []
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: bytchtes8316 [bytcht-es8316], device 1: Deep-Buffer Audio (*) []
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
haf@UNKNOWN:~$


Re: Sound does not work on Debian 10

2020-12-31 Thread Hassans Tech
Additional info that I forgot to add:
The output of lspci -knn
 Is: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium
Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register [8086:2280]
(rev
36)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register [8086:7270]
Kernel driver in use: iosf_mbi_pci
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics
Controller [808
6:22b0] (rev 36)
DeviceName:  Onboard IGD
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:7270]
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915
00:03.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Imaging Unit
[8086:22b8] (rev 36
)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Imaging Unit [8086:7270]
Kernel driver in use: intel_atomisp2_pm
Kernel modules: intel_atomisp2_pm
00:0b.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power Management
Controll
er [8086:22dc] (rev 36)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power Management Controller [8086:7270]
Kernel driver in use: proc_thermal
Kernel modules: processor_thermal_device
00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium
Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series USB xHCI Controller [8086:22b5] (rev
36
)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series USB xHCI Controller [8086:7270]
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
Kernel modules: xhci_pci
00:1a.0 Encryption controller [1080]: Intel Corporation
Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Trusted
Execution Engine [8086:2
298] (rev 36)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine [8086:7270]
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCU [8086:229c] (rev 36)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCU [8086:7270]
Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
Kernel modules: lpc_ich
again, thanks for your time.


Re: Sound (Alsa/PulseAudio) not working for ONE USER ONLY (addidional info)

2020-09-23 Thread Marc Shapiro



On 9/23/20 10:02 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I am currently running Stretch, with alsa and pulseaudio.

This box has three users.  My wife and daughter both get sound through 
Firefox, as well as 'play filename.mp3'.  Neither method works for my 
login.  When using 'aplay filename.mp3' all users get static.


Some background:

A few months back, my /home partition was accidentally wiped. (It was 
mounted where I did not think it was.  No backups.  My bad. New 
external drive for backups, now.)  Data recovery managed to get back 
my wife's and daughter's directories, but not mine. My guess is that 
there were configuration files that I no longer have under my login 
that are necessary for sound.


An interesting note:  I just tried playing a file (play filename.mp3) 
while displaying the PulseAudio Volume Meter.  It says that sound is 
playing.  Then I noticed that it is showing volume for the 'Loopback 
Analog Stero'.  I did the same thing under my wife's and daughter's 
login and the sound was going to the 'Built-in Audio Analog Stereo'


How do I tell Alsa/PulseAudio to use the Built-in sound device, and 
not the loopback device?


Marc

I can change the fallback to the Built-in sound device using 
pavucontrol, but then, when I try to play an mp3 file, 'play' just locks 
up.  It displays the file data, and the line that shows its location in 
the file, but that line never changes.  Even Ctrl-C does not exit the 
program.  I have to close, and restart, LXTerminal.


Marc



Re: Sound in Jitsi/BBB [was: dvice on encrypted filesystem]

2020-06-25 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 03:57:53PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12020-06-25):
> > You don't use Pulseaudio? Current Firefoxen have ALSA enabled for Debian,
> > but their ALSA support seems to have fallen prey to bitrot. I didn't
> > manage to get them working.
> > 
> > If you insist in not having Pulse (I do), there's apulse (the package
> > is named likewise, I think). It plays LD_PRELOAD tricks to trick FF
> > into believing it's talking to Pulseaudio. I had success with that.
> 
> I use apulse, and Firefox is capable of producing sound on some sites (I
> do not know why I bother to get it working: I do NOT want my web browser
> to produce sound!). The microphone is the issue.

Sound wasn't the problem for me. Microphone was.

FWIW, I also detest the browser making noises -- but lockdown and things.
And seeing people swarming to Zoom gave me the rest.

I had both Jitsi and BBB, and micro worked (via apulse) with both. It
took me some fiddling with amixer/alsamixer, though.

Cheers
-- t


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Re: Sound in Jitsi/BBB [was: dvice on encrypted filesystem]

2020-06-25 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12020-06-25):
> You don't use Pulseaudio? Current Firefoxen have ALSA enabled for Debian,
> but their ALSA support seems to have fallen prey to bitrot. I didn't
> manage to get them working.
> 
> If you insist in not having Pulse (I do), there's apulse (the package
> is named likewise, I think). It plays LD_PRELOAD tricks to trick FF
> into believing it's talking to Pulseaudio. I had success with that.

I use apulse, and Firefox is capable of producing sound on some sites (I
do not know why I bother to get it working: I do NOT want my web browser
to produce sound!). The microphone is the issue.

Regards,

-- 
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Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-13 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi,

For the record, I had the exact same problem on a computer running
buster that I don't use very often. For sure, it was working fine even
with timidity installed a few months ago. Many thanks to Andrei for the
'lsof | grep /dev/snd' command that pointed us in the right direction!
Debugging these sound issues that appear spontaneously on a
previously-working setup is not easy, especially now that PulseAudio is
required everywhere.

Regards

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Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-12 Thread deloptes
riveravaldez wrote:

> On 4/12/20, riveravaldez  wrote:
>> On 4/12/20, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>>> On Sb, 11 apr 20, 21:02:39, riveravaldez wrote:

 Strangely, 'speaker-test -c2' doesn't produce a sound. But 'sudo
 speaker-test -c2' works flawlessly. (The idea to check that came from
 [1].)
>>>
>>> Some program might be blocking the sound card, check also the output of
>>> 'lsof | grep /dev/snd' (as root).
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Andrei
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your answer and help, Andrei.
>> I've got these:
>>
>> $ sudo lsof | grep /dev/snd/
>> timidity   644timidity  mem   CHR
>> 116,213463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
>> timidity   644timidity3r  CHR
>>116,33   0t0  12547 /dev/snd/timer
>> timidity   644timidity4u  CHR
>> 116,2   0t0  13463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
>> timidity   644timidity5u  CHR
>> 116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0
>> timidity   644timidity6u  CHR
>> 116,1   0t0  12548 /dev/snd/seq
>> alsamixer 2150thinkpad3u  CHR
>> 116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0
>>
>> Maybe a timidity configuration issue?
> 
> Oh, mother-bugger... Problem - practically - solved.
> 

IT is known issue with timidity. I did not know that sound can be played via
root account though. We learned a bit more.



Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-12 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/12/20, riveravaldez  wrote:
> On 4/12/20, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>> On Sb, 11 apr 20, 21:02:39, riveravaldez wrote:
>>>
>>> Strangely, 'speaker-test -c2' doesn't produce a sound. But 'sudo
>>> speaker-test -c2' works flawlessly. (The idea to check that came from
>>> [1].)
>>
>> Some program might be blocking the sound card, check also the output of
>> 'lsof | grep /dev/snd' (as root).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andrei
>
> Thanks a lot for your answer and help, Andrei.
> I've got these:
>
> $ sudo lsof | grep /dev/snd/
> timidity   644timidity  mem   CHR
> 116,213463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> timidity   644timidity3r  CHR
>116,33   0t0  12547 /dev/snd/timer
> timidity   644timidity4u  CHR
> 116,2   0t0  13463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> timidity   644timidity5u  CHR
> 116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0
> timidity   644timidity6u  CHR
> 116,1   0t0  12548 /dev/snd/seq
> alsamixer 2150thinkpad3u  CHR
> 116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0
>
> Maybe a timidity configuration issue?

Oh, mother-bugger... Problem - practically - solved.

I did:

$ sudo apt-get purge timidity
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias
Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
Los siguientes paquetes se ELIMINARÁN:
  timidity* timidity-daemon*
0 actualizados, 0 nuevos se instalarán, 2 para eliminar y 9 no actualizados.
Se liberarán 1.655 kB después de esta operación.
¿Desea continuar? [S/n]
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 123466 ficheros o directorios instalados
actualmente.)
Desinstalando timidity-daemon (2.14.0-8) ...
Desinstalando timidity (2.14.0-8) ...
Procesando disparadores para mime-support (3.64) ...
Procesando disparadores para man-db (2.9.1-1) ...
Procesando disparadores para desktop-file-utils (0.24-1) ...
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 123413 ficheros o directorios instalados
actualmente.)
Purgando ficheros de configuración de timidity-daemon (2.14.0-8) ...
Purgando ficheros de configuración de timidity (2.14.0-8) ...
Procesando disparadores para systemd (244.3-1) ...

And everything came to work. Pavucontrol shows the devices, streams
and configurations. All media-players (audacious, mplayer, firefox,
audacity, etc.) work with default audio configuration, and even JACK
is working flawlessly. In fact, tested JACK (qjackctl) with qsynt and
vmpk and everything worked fine (maybe I don't even need timidity at
all?).

And then - testing if could reinstall - found the cause of the problem:

$ sudo apt-get install timidity
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias
Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
Paquetes sugeridos:
  fluid-soundfont-gs pmidi timidity-daemon
Se instalarán los siguientes paquetes NUEVOS:
  timidity
0 actualizados, 1 nuevos se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 9 no actualizados.
Se necesita descargar 0 B/627 kB de archivos.
Se utilizarán 1.582 kB de espacio de disco adicional después de esta operación.
Obteniendo informes de fallo... Finalizado
Analizando información Encontrada/Corregida... Finalizado
Fallos critical del paquete timidity (→ 2.14.0-8) 
 b1 - #901148 - timidity: upgrading to 2.14.0-2 broke sound via pulseaudio
   Fusionado con: 902330 904652 918522
Resumen:
 timidity(1 fallo)
¿Está seguro de que desea instalar/actualizar los paquetes mostrados
anteriormente? [Y/n/?/...] n
*
** Saliendo con error para detener la instalación. **
*
E: El subproceso /usr/bin/apt-listbugs apt devolvió un código de error (10)
E: Failure running script /usr/bin/apt-listbugs apt

Don't know how that passed without me noticing it...

Last messages from: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901148#147

> After many tests I have found the solution about the
> bugs around timidity-daemon and pulseaudio.
>
> timidity-daemon installs an system-wide daemon. But
> pulseaudio is a user-wide "daemon".

I guess that explains the 'sudo works, non-sudo non-works'?

> With my appended patch the system-wide daemon will be
> removed and a xdg/autostart script will be installed.
>
> After that timidity together with pulseaudio runs
> perfectly.

> Now I have made new Debian packages for buster and testing
> including my patch:

That last's from 20 Feb 2020, maybe still not uploaded?

Should I mark this as 'SOLVED' in some manner?

Thanks a lot for everything. Andrei, you saved me. ^_^ (!)



Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 12 apr 20, 11:39:52, riveravaldez wrote:
> 
> $ groups
> thinkpad cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev

Ok.
 
> $ speaker-test -c2 [Still not sound.]

And no error...
 
> $ sudo speaker-test -c2 [Sounds OK.]

That would indicate that sound is handled differently for the regular 
user (e.g. via pulseaudio) vs. the root user.

This could be either pulseaudio or an .asoundrc (do you have one in your 
home directory?).

Try this as user:

pasuspender -- speaker-test -c2

> $ sudo lsof | grep /dev/snd/
> timidity   644timidity  mem   CHR
> 116,213463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> timidity   644timidity3r  CHR
>116,33   0t0  12547 /dev/snd/timer
> timidity   644timidity4u  CHR
> 116,2   0t0  13463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> timidity   644timidity5u  CHR
> 116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0
> timidity   644timidity6u  CHR
> 116,1   0t0  12548 /dev/snd/seq
> alsamixer 2150thinkpad3u  CHR
> 116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0
> 
> Maybe a timidity configuration issue?

Try stopping / disabling it and see if that helps.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-12 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/12/20, deloptes  wrote:
> riveravaldez wrote:
>
>> But this not, even as sudo (and the error is similar to JACK one):
>> $ aplay -vv -D front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
>> aplay: main:830: audio open error: Device or resource bussy
>
> aplay -vv -D plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav

Problem persists, no sound:

$ aplay -vv -D plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Device or resource busy

> read this
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture

I'll check it again.

>
> you should know what you are doing

Yes, that's the idea.
Any help?

Thanks!



Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-12 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/12/20, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> On Sb, 11 apr 20, 21:02:39, riveravaldez wrote:
>>
>> Strangely, 'speaker-test -c2' doesn't produce a sound. But 'sudo
>> speaker-test -c2' works flawlessly. (The idea to check that came from
>> [1].)
>
> Any error message? Is your user a member of group 'audio'?
>
> Some program might be blocking the sound card, check also the output of
> 'lsof | grep /dev/snd' (as root).
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

Thanks a lot for your answer and help, Andrei.
I've got these:

$ groups
thinkpad cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev

$ speaker-test -c2 [Still not sound.]

speaker-test 1.2.2

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 96 to 1048576
Period size range from 32 to 349526
Using max buffer size 1048576
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 262144
was set buffer_size = 1048576
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right
Time per period = 12,314270
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right
^CTime per period = 12,317682

$ sudo speaker-test -c2 [Sounds OK.]

speaker-test 1.2.2

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384
Period size range from 1024 to 1024
Using max buffer size 16384
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 1024
was set buffer_size = 16384
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right
Time per period = 5,644667
 0 - Front Left
^CWrite error: -4,Llamada al sistema interrumpida
xrun_recovery failed: -4,Llamada al sistema interrumpida
Transfer failed: Llamada al sistema interrumpida
[System is in Spanish, last lines mean, 'Interrupted system-call'.]

$ sudo lsof | grep /dev/snd/
timidity   644timidity  mem   CHR
116,213463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
timidity   644timidity3r  CHR
   116,33   0t0  12547 /dev/snd/timer
timidity   644timidity4u  CHR
116,2   0t0  13463 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
timidity   644timidity5u  CHR
116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0
timidity   644timidity6u  CHR
116,1   0t0  12548 /dev/snd/seq
alsamixer 2150thinkpad3u  CHR
116,9   0t0  13479 /dev/snd/controlC0

Maybe a timidity configuration issue?



Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-12 Thread deloptes
riveravaldez wrote:

> But this not, even as sudo (and the error is similar to JACK one):
> $ aplay -vv -D front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
> aplay: main:830: audio open error: Device or resource bussy

aplay -vv -D plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav

read this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture

you should know what you are doing



Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 apr 20, 21:02:39, riveravaldez wrote:
> 
> Strangely, 'speaker-test -c2' doesn't produce a sound. But 'sudo
> speaker-test -c2' works flawlessly. (The idea to check that came from
> [1].)

Any error message? Is your user a member of group 'audio'?

Some program might be blocking the sound card, check also the output of 
'lsof | grep /dev/snd' (as root).

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-11 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/11/20, riveravaldez  wrote:
> On 4/11/20, riveravaldez  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to know what's the proper way to solve this. I'm on an
>> updated debian-testing installation (with pulseaudio installed and
>> working, but the problem seems to be previous, i.e., in ALSA, because
>> pavucontrol doesn't show the soundcard in its correspondent tab).
>>
>> I can get audio from audacity and audacious as long as I choose
>> manually the proper soundcard in its options, but not from other
>> programs (e.g., firefox, mplayer, etc.), which I suppose use the
>> default soundcard.
>>
>> Strangely, 'speaker-test -c2' doesn't produce a sound. But 'sudo
>> speaker-test -c2' works flawlessly. (The idea to check that came from
>> [1].)
>>
>> I already tested (following [2]):
>>
>> $ sudo alsactl init
>> Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Conexant CX20590"
>> "HDA:14f1506e,17aa21db,0013 HDA:80862805,80860101,0010"
>> "0x17aa" "0x21db"
>> Hardware is initialized using a generic method
>>
>> But nothing changed after reboot. (Though, the CX20590 is the working
>> choice for audacious/audacity.)
>>
>> I have this info:
>>
>> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>>  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>>   HDA Intel PCH at 0xf252 irq 35
>>
>> $ lspci -v
>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
>> Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
>>  Subsystem: Lenovo 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition
>> Audio Controller
>>  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 35
>>  Memory at f252 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>>  Capabilities: 
>>  Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>>  Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
>>
>> Any other info I could provide?
>> What should I do?
>>
>> BTW, JACK also fails to work, with these messages:
>>
>> 20:59:14.349 Reiniciar estadísticas.
>> 20:59:14.356 Cambios en las conexiones ALSA.
>> Cannot connect to server socket err = No existe el fichero o el
>> directorio
>> Cannot connect to server request channel
>> jack server is not running or cannot be started
>> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
>> skipping unlock
>> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
>> skipping unlock
>> 20:59:31.365 JACK está iniciándose...
>> 20:59:31.366 /usr/bin/jackd -v -dalsa -r48000 -p512 -n2 -Xseq -D
>> -Chw:PCH,0 -Phw:PCH,0
>> Cannot connect to server socket err = No existe el fichero o el
>> directorio
>> Cannot connect to server request channel
>> jack server is not running or cannot be started
>> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
>> skipping unlock
>> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
>> skipping unlock
>> 20:59:31.382 JACK se inició con PID=3144.
>> no message buffer overruns
>> no message buffer overruns
>> no message buffer overruns
>> jackdmp 1.9.12
>> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
>> Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.
>> Copyright 2016-2017 Filipe Coelho.
>> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
>> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>> JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
>> self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
>> Jack: JackPosixThread::StartImp : create non RT thread
>> Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : start
>> Jack: capture device hw:PCH,0
>> Jack: playback device hw:PCH,0
>> Jack: apparent rate = 48000
>> Jack: frames per period = 512
>> Jack: JackDriver::Open capture_driver_name = hw:PCH,0
>> Jack: JackDriver::Open playback_driver_name = hw:PCH,0
>> Jack: Check protocol client = 8 server = 8
>> Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalOpen: name = system
>> Jack: JackEngine::AllocateRefNum ref = 0
>> Jack: JackLinuxFutex::Allocate name = jack_sem.1000_default_system val =
>> 0
>> Jack: JackEngine::NotifyAddClient: name = system
>> Jack: JackGraphManager::SetBufferSize size = 512
>> Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectConnect first: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
>> Jack: JackGraphManager::ConnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
>> Jack: JackDriver::SetupDriverSync driver sem in flush mode
>> audio_reservation_init
>> Acquire audio card Audio0
>> creating alsa driver ...
>> hw:PCH,0|hw:PCH,0|512|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
>> ATTENTION: The playback device "hw:PCH,0" is already in use. Please
>> stop the application using it and run JACK again
>> Jack: JackDriver::Close
>> Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectDisconnect last: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
>> Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
>> Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalClose ref = 0
>> Jack: JackEngine::ClientCloseAux ref = 0
>> Jack: JackGraphManager::RemoveAllPorts ref = 0
>> Released audio card Audio0
>> audio_reservation_finish
>> Jack: ~JackDriver
>> Cannot initialize driver
>> Jack: no message buffer overruns
>> Jack: JackPosixThread::Stop
>> 

Re: Sound issues on ThinkPad X220T (Lenovo)

2020-04-11 Thread riveravaldez
On 4/11/20, riveravaldez  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know what's the proper way to solve this. I'm on an
> updated debian-testing installation (with pulseaudio installed and
> working, but the problem seems to be previous, i.e., in ALSA, because
> pavucontrol doesn't show the soundcard in its correspondent tab).
>
> I can get audio from audacity and audacious as long as I choose
> manually the proper soundcard in its options, but not from other
> programs (e.g., firefox, mplayer, etc.), which I suppose use the
> default soundcard.
>
> Strangely, 'speaker-test -c2' doesn't produce a sound. But 'sudo
> speaker-test -c2' works flawlessly. (The idea to check that came from
> [1].)
>
> I already tested (following [2]):
>
> $ sudo alsactl init
> Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Conexant CX20590"
> "HDA:14f1506e,17aa21db,0013 HDA:80862805,80860101,0010"
> "0x17aa" "0x21db"
> Hardware is initialized using a generic method
>
> But nothing changed after reboot. (Though, the CX20590 is the working
> choice for audacious/audacity.)
>
> I have this info:
>
> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>   HDA Intel PCH at 0xf252 irq 35
>
> $ lspci -v
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset
> Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
>   Subsystem: Lenovo 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition
> Audio Controller
>   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 35
>   Memory at f252 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
>   Capabilities: 
>   Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>   Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
>
> Any other info I could provide?
> What should I do?
>
> BTW, JACK also fails to work, with these messages:
>
> 20:59:14.349 Reiniciar estadísticas.
> 20:59:14.356 Cambios en las conexiones ALSA.
> Cannot connect to server socket err = No existe el fichero o el directorio
> Cannot connect to server request channel
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
> skipping unlock
> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
> skipping unlock
> 20:59:31.365 JACK está iniciándose...
> 20:59:31.366 /usr/bin/jackd -v -dalsa -r48000 -p512 -n2 -Xseq -D
> -Chw:PCH,0 -Phw:PCH,0
> Cannot connect to server socket err = No existe el fichero o el directorio
> Cannot connect to server request channel
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
> skipping unlock
> JackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1,
> skipping unlock
> 20:59:31.382 JACK se inició con PID=3144.
> no message buffer overruns
> no message buffer overruns
> no message buffer overruns
> jackdmp 1.9.12
> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
> Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.
> Copyright 2016-2017 Filipe Coelho.
> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
> JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
> self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"
> Jack: JackPosixThread::StartImp : create non RT thread
> Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : start
> Jack: capture device hw:PCH,0
> Jack: playback device hw:PCH,0
> Jack: apparent rate = 48000
> Jack: frames per period = 512
> Jack: JackDriver::Open capture_driver_name = hw:PCH,0
> Jack: JackDriver::Open playback_driver_name = hw:PCH,0
> Jack: Check protocol client = 8 server = 8
> Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalOpen: name = system
> Jack: JackEngine::AllocateRefNum ref = 0
> Jack: JackLinuxFutex::Allocate name = jack_sem.1000_default_system val = 0
> Jack: JackEngine::NotifyAddClient: name = system
> Jack: JackGraphManager::SetBufferSize size = 512
> Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectConnect first: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
> Jack: JackGraphManager::ConnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
> Jack: JackDriver::SetupDriverSync driver sem in flush mode
> audio_reservation_init
> Acquire audio card Audio0
> creating alsa driver ...
> hw:PCH,0|hw:PCH,0|512|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
> ATTENTION: The playback device "hw:PCH,0" is already in use. Please
> stop the application using it and run JACK again
> Jack: JackDriver::Close
> Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectDisconnect last: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
> Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
> Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalClose ref = 0
> Jack: JackEngine::ClientCloseAux ref = 0
> Jack: JackGraphManager::RemoveAllPorts ref = 0
> Released audio card Audio0
> audio_reservation_finish
> Jack: ~JackDriver
> Cannot initialize driver
> Jack: no message buffer overruns
> Jack: JackPosixThread::Stop
> Jack: JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler : exit
> JackServer::Open failed with -1
> Jack: Succeeded in unlocking 82280346 byte memory area
> Jack: 

Re: Sound stoped unecpected

2019-02-12 Thread deloptes
Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Why does the ThinkPad crash or freeze,
> if I have a power failure on the DockingStation...

I assume you have the battery in the notebook - so it is perhaps something
related to the power management - what dows your log say?



Re: Sound stoped unecpected

2019-02-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi,

I rebooted (soft) the ThinkPad and nothing was working.

Since we got a snowstorm yesterday evening (until this morning) my
GSM/LTE Provider Telia was down and without internet I had to
shutdown my ThinkPad.

Just some minutes ago I switched on my Thinkpad and now anything is
working again as expected, including sound!

It seems, the hardware was crashed and could not even recover by
soft rebooting the ThinkPad.  Only a PowerOff will help!

Now the only problem is:

Why does the ThinkPad crash or freeze,
if I have a power failure on the DockingStation...

Thanks in advance
Michelle


Am 2019-02-12 hackte deb in die Tasten:
> Hello Michelle.
>
> Just an obvious question -- do you have any way to ensure that the
> actual speaker hardware was not fried in the hardware crash?
>
> Are you getting ANY sound from the speakers?
>
>
> On 2/11/2019 4:37 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>> Good evening *,
>>
>> I have a ThinkPad T400 with Docking Station and whenever I have a
>> power
>> failer, the ThinkPad crash... I have Stretch with sysv-init running.
>>
>> However, I can hard reset the ThinkPad and thath it is.
>>
>> Today I got an unexpected result AFTER A HARD REBOOT.
>>
>> The sound stoped...
>>
>> If I run "Pulse Audio Volume Control" I see the streams from VLC,
>> Audacity and Firefox, but no sound is comming out of the
>> loudspeakers.
>>
>> Doe someone had a similar problem and know how to solv it?
>>
>> I have already called alsamixer and moved all settings arround,
>> but noting helps.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>
>


-- 
-- 
Michelle Konzack
00372-54541400



Re: Sound stoped unecpected

2019-02-11 Thread deb

Hello Michelle.

Just an obvious question -- do you have any way to ensure that the 
actual speaker hardware was not fried in the hardware crash?


Are you getting ANY sound from the speakers?


On 2/11/2019 4:37 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Good evening *,

I have a ThinkPad T400 with Docking Station and whenever I have a power
failer, the ThinkPad crash... I have Stretch with sysv-init running.

However, I can hard reset the ThinkPad and thath it is.

Today I got an unexpected result AFTER A HARD REBOOT.

The sound stoped...

If I run "Pulse Audio Volume Control" I see the streams from VLC,
Audacity and Firefox, but no sound is comming out of the loudspeakers.

Doe someone had a similar problem and know how to solv it?

I have already called alsamixer and moved all settings arround,
but noting helps.

Thanks in advance





Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 02:07:16 +0300 Abdullah Ramazanoğlu said:

> I find Audacious quite better than timidity for playing midi pieces.

And a small audacious/midi how to (just in case someone needs it):
http://redmine.audacious-media-player.org/boards/1/topics/1143?r=1610

"The MIDI plugin requires some configuration before it will work. To get to the
settings for it, go to File menu -> Preferences -> Plugins page -> Input tab.
Select "AMIDI-Plug (MIDI Player)" in the list of plugins and click on the
Preferences button at the bottom.

This will bring up a new window. Select FluidSynth in the backend list.

Now go to the FluidSynth tab on the left. There will be a list (probably empty)
of SoundFont files. You can use whatever SoundFont you like, but I recommend
that you install the fluid-soundfont-gm package (Debian and Fedora both provide
it) and add /usr/share/soundfonts/FluidR3_GM.sf2 to the list (click on the "+"
button on the right to get a file browser window).

Then you should be good to go!"



How I did it:

~# apt-get install audacious fluid-soundfont-gm fluid-soundfont-gs

Go to audacious settings and add the following soundfont files as per the
explanation above:

Add: /usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2
Add: /usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GS.sf2

That's all. Audacity should now be able to play midi files.

Note that I have installed both fluid-soundfont-gm and fluid-soundfont-gs, but
I believe "gm" supersedes "gs", so fluid-soundfont-gs is probably be redundant.

-- 
Abdullah Ramazanoğlu - İstanbul, Türkiye




Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM Kent West  wrote:

>
>
> I have this issue on my Sid box. Turns out that on boot-up, Timidity
> takes over the sound device at a lower level that the rest of the
> audio-aware parts of my system, which prevents sharing the device with
> those parts.
>
+1

When I disabled Timidity (too Timid for my tastes though I needed its
ability to render MIDI files),  then my Sound worked fine.

Best regards,

Kenneth Parker


Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Default User
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:57 PM Brad Rogers  wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 16:37:21 -0400
> Default User  wrote:
>
> Hello Default,
>
> >Thanks.
>
> YW.
>
> >I started to wade out into that, but then decided that it's probably
> >better to just wait for the fix updates to be uploaded.
>
> Much of the time, I do the same as you.  Occasionally though, I have to
> bite the bullet and get back to a working state.  It shouldn't be too
> before an update in Sid, anyway.
>
> --
>  Regards  _
>  / )   "The blindingly obvious is
> / _)radnever immediately apparent"
> Save me from everybody else
> Prisoners - Judgement Centre
>


Note:
sudo mv /etc/alsa/conf.d /etc/alsa/conf.d.bak
followed by a reboot seems to be at least a temporary fix. Sound works now.
Thanks to "Amy Kos"  (see bug report #912721).


Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 16:37:21 -0400
Default User  wrote:

Hello Default,

>Thanks.

YW.

>I started to wade out into that, but then decided that it's probably
>better to just wait for the fix updates to be uploaded.

Much of the time, I do the same as you.  Occasionally though, I have to
bite the bullet and get back to a working state.  It shouldn't be too
before an update in Sid, anyway.

-- 
 Regards  _
 / )   "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
Save me from everybody else
Prisoners - Judgement Centre


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Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Default User
Okay, Brad.

Thanks.

I started to wade out into that, but then decided that it's probably better
to just wait for the fix updates to be uploaded.

Just home it's sooner than libtracker-sparql-2.0-0 (bug #908800 merged with
3 others, since at least 2018-09-14, No end in sight!)


On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:42 PM Brad Rogers  wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 15:14:59 -0400
> Default User  wrote:
>
> Hello Default,
>
> >I hate to sound stupid, but how can I revert to an earlier package
> >version? (I didn't think that could be done.)
>
> It can, but it's not supported.  IOW, if anything breaks, you get to keep
> all the pieces.
>
> To install removed packages, you need a new repo - Debian Snapshot.  It
> keeps all the old packages.  An example config;
>
> deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20181007/ testing main
> contrib non-free
>
> The number part is, obviously (I hope), the date you're interested in,
> using a MMMDD format.  Do a search for Debian snapshot, and you'll
> be able to read up on the finer points.  The official Debian page is at
> https://snapshot.debian.org/
>
> Note especially the section regarding going back more than a dozen days
> - you'll have to tweak a setting or two for it to work.
>
> Once you've installed the old packages, I suggest you comment out the
> snapshot.  Then, if you need an old package again, you've only got to
> alter the date part, and away you go.
>
> --
>  Regards  _
>  / )   "The blindingly obvious is
> / _)radnever immediately apparent"
> I'm need of your help now
> Burn - Judgement Centre
>


Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 15:14:59 -0400
Default User  wrote:

Hello Default,

>I hate to sound stupid, but how can I revert to an earlier package
>version? (I didn't think that could be done.)

It can, but it's not supported.  IOW, if anything breaks, you get to keep
all the pieces.

To install removed packages, you need a new repo - Debian Snapshot.  It
keeps all the old packages.  An example config;

deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20181007/ testing main
contrib non-free

The number part is, obviously (I hope), the date you're interested in,
using a MMMDD format.  Do a search for Debian snapshot, and you'll
be able to read up on the finer points.  The official Debian page is at
https://snapshot.debian.org/

Note especially the section regarding going back more than a dozen days
- you'll have to tweak a setting or two for it to work.

Once you've installed the old packages, I suggest you comment out the
snapshot.  Then, if you need an old package again, you've only got to
alter the date part, and away you go.

-- 
 Regards  _
 / )   "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
I'm need of your help now
Burn - Judgement Centre


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Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Default User
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 1:50 PM Pascal Obry  wrote:

> I'm on Debian/sid too.
>
> An issue in libasound2 and libglibmm-2.4-1v5. You want to revert:
>
> libasound2, libasound2-data to 1.1.6-1
> libasound2-plugins to 1.1.6-1+b1
> libglibmm-2.4-1v5 to 2.56.0-2
>
> And the sound is back.
>
> --
>   Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)
>
>   The best way to travel is by means of imagination
>
>   http://www.obry.net
>
>   gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B
>
>

I hate to sound stupid, but how can I revert to an earlier package version?
(I didn't think that could be done.)


Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Kent West



On 11/3/18 12:24 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:



On 11/3/18 1:09 PM, Default User wrote:

Hi.

Running Debian, 64-bit Unstable, Cinnamon DE, on laptop.

Not very knowledgeable about sound stuff.

Sound okay last night.

Today did updates, no sound at all. (When in doubt, blame updates.)

Cinnamon sound settings applet shows "Dummy Output" as only output 
device, instead of "Speakers" as previously.


What to check?




  Same here. Running Mate on Sid. I noticed libasound2 and 
libasound2-data were both upgraded yesterday and then my problem 
started. Maybe bug-filing time ??



I have this issue on my Sid box. Turns out that on boot-up, Timidity 
takes over the sound device at a lower level that the rest of the 
audio-aware parts of my system, which prevents sharing the device with 
those parts.


I don't remember how I discovered this - some command like "fuser -v 
/dev/snd/*" probably, and I still haven't *fixed* it, but I work around 
it my just grepping for Timidity in a "ps ax" command and then killing 
the resulting Timidity processes. This wouldn't work if I needed 
Timidity, in which case I'd need to find a real fix, but this suffices 
for my needs for now.


May not have any relevance for y'all, though. But then again, maybe.


--

Kent




Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Pascal Obry
I'm on Debian/sid too.

An issue in libasound2 and libglibmm-2.4-1v5. You want to revert:

libasound2, libasound2-data to 1.1.6-1
libasound2-plugins to 1.1.6-1+b1
libglibmm-2.4-1v5 to 2.56.0-2

And the sound is back.

-- 
  Pascal Obry /  Magny Les Hameaux (78)

  The best way to travel is by means of imagination

  http://www.obry.net

  gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B



Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Default User  [2018-11-03 13:09 -0400]:

> Hi.
> 
> Running Debian, 64-bit Unstable, Cinnamon DE, on laptop.
> 
> Not very knowledgeable about sound stuff.
> 
> Sound okay last night.
> 
> Today did updates, no sound at all. (When in doubt, blame updates.)

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=912721

Fix is prepared.

Elimar
-- 
  Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
  Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
  There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)



Re: Sound suddenly not working.

2018-11-03 Thread Frank McCormick




On 11/3/18 1:09 PM, Default User wrote:

Hi.

Running Debian, 64-bit Unstable, Cinnamon DE, on laptop.

Not very knowledgeable about sound stuff.

Sound okay last night.

Today did updates, no sound at all. (When in doubt, blame updates.)

Cinnamon sound settings applet shows "Dummy Output" as only output 
device, instead of "Speakers" as previously.


What to check?




  Same here. Running Mate on Sid. I noticed libasound2 and 
libasound2-data were both upgraded yesterday and then my problem 
started. Maybe bug-filing time ??



--
Frank McCormick



Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:03:36 +0100
Brian  wrote:

> On Thu 13 Sep 2018 at 20:48:35 +0100, Joe wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:01 +0200
> > deloptes  wrote:
> >   
> > > Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > >   
> > > > For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a
> > > > show stopper.
> > > 
> > > I see it as a temporary resolution. I think this should be
> > > reported and developers should come it a fix. Do we know that
> > > other usb audio devices suffer the same?
> > >   
> > 
> > I've submitted a bug report.  
> 
> Bug number?
> 

908750.

I submitted it against the kernel, so reportbug included a great deal
of irrelevant information.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 13 Sep 2018 at 20:48:35 +0100, Joe wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:01 +0200
> deloptes  wrote:
> 
> > Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > 
> > > For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a
> > > show stopper.  
> > 
> > I see it as a temporary resolution. I think this should be reported
> > and developers should come it a fix. Do we know that other usb audio
> > devices suffer the same?
> > 
> 
> I've submitted a bug report.

Bug number?

-- 
Brian.



Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 19:47:01 +0200
deloptes  wrote:

> Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
> > For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a
> > show stopper.  
> 
> I see it as a temporary resolution. I think this should be reported
> and developers should come it a fix. Do we know that other usb audio
> devices suffer the same?
> 

I've submitted a bug report.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread deloptes
Jude DaShiell wrote:

> For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a show
> stopper.

I see it as a temporary resolution. I think this should be reported and
developers should come it a fix. Do we know that other usb audio devices
suffer the same?

regards



Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
For screen reader users with only usb sound available, this is a show
stopper.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, Joe wrote:

> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:34:23
> From: Joe 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]
> Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:34:40 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 09:12:33 +0100
> Joe  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:36:20 +0200
> > deloptes  wrote:
> >
>
> > >  Then I looked
> > > at /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file. I noticed the following at
> > > end of file.
> > >
> > > # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
> > > options snd-usb-audio index=-2
>
> I would guess that this is also a default somewhere else, maybe
> hardcoded, because I don't have it but do have the problem.
>
> > >
> > > I just caught the culprit. Basically these external USB sound
> > > adapters are used as secondary audio device, the above setting
> > > prohibits USB sound adapter being set as default device. In my case,
> > > it is a primary audio device, so I set it?s index as 0 as shown
> > > below.
> > >
> > > # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
> > > options snd-usb-audio index=0
>
> >
> > Well done, thank you for your time and effort.
>
> OK, nothing in /etc/modprobe.d (this was a clean minimal installation)
> so I made a file, put in that line and rebooted.
>
> All OK now, speaker-test and alsamixer are working, I'll get around to
> loading my sound player software when I have more time. Thank you again.
>
> I presume this is a minor bug, a USB card really should not be forced
> not to be card 0 if there is no other candidate.
>
>

-- 



Re: Sound in Stretch [SOLVED]

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 09:12:33 +0100
Joe  wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:36:20 +0200
> deloptes  wrote:
> 

> >  Then I looked
> > at /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file. I noticed the following at
> > end of file.
> > 
> > # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
> > options snd-usb-audio index=-2

I would guess that this is also a default somewhere else, maybe
hardcoded, because I don't have it but do have the problem.

> > 
> > I just caught the culprit. Basically these external USB sound
> > adapters are used as secondary audio device, the above setting
> > prohibits USB sound adapter being set as default device. In my case,
> > it is a primary audio device, so I set it’s index as 0 as shown
> > below.
> > 
> > # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
> > options snd-usb-audio index=0
 
> 
> Well done, thank you for your time and effort. 

OK, nothing in /etc/modprobe.d (this was a clean minimal installation)
so I made a file, put in that line and rebooted.

All OK now, speaker-test and alsamixer are working, I'll get around to
loading my sound player software when I have more time. Thank you again.

I presume this is a minor bug, a USB card really should not be forced
not to be card 0 if there is no other candidate.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:36:20 +0200
deloptes  wrote:

> Joe wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:23:58 +0200
> > deloptes  wrote:  
> 
> I also found this
> http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/10/04/how-to-get-usb-sound-adapter-0d8c000c-working-as-primary-sound-card-in-debian-linux/
> 
> 
> When I googled, I was adviced to try without USB hub. So I directly
> connected to Server without using external USB hub… but no
> improvement. I don’t have any other audio device (not even internal
> audio card). Debian Squeeze does not come with alsaconf utility to
> detect and install the necessary modules. It is done automatically.
> In my case it loads all modules and also there is no error message
> while starting ALSA at startup. Then I looked
> at /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file. I noticed the following at
> end of file.
> 
> # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
> options snd-usb-audio index=-2
> 
> I just caught the culprit. Basically these external USB sound
> adapters are used as secondary audio device, the above setting
> prohibits USB sound adapter being set as default device. In my case,
> it is a primary audio device, so I set it’s index as 0 as shown below.
> 
> # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
> options snd-usb-audio index=0
> 
> 

Well done, thank you for your time and effort. So my wild guess was
right, then? There was a clue in that the USB device was being
allocated as sound card 1, with no sound card 0. As I posted a few
weeks ago, it's probably a year or more since I had any sound
trouble, and I'd forgotten that the count was 0-based. But it's good
that there's an easier way than buying another sound card.

I'm pushed for time right now, but I'll try this later today.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-13 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:23:58 +0200
> deloptes  wrote:

I also found this
http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/10/04/how-to-get-usb-sound-adapter-0d8c000c-working-as-primary-sound-card-in-debian-linux/


When I googled, I was adviced to try without USB hub. So I directly
connected to Server without using external USB hub… but no improvement. I
don’t have any other audio device (not even internal audio card).
Debian Squeeze does not come with alsaconf utility to detect and install the
necessary modules. It is done automatically. In my case it loads all
modules and also there is no error message while starting ALSA at startup.
Then I looked at /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file. I noticed the
following at end of file.

# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-usb-audio index=-2

I just caught the culprit. Basically these external USB sound adapters are
used as secondary audio device, the above setting prohibits USB sound
adapter being set as default device. In my case, it is a primary audio
device, so I set it’s index as 0 as shown below.

# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-usb-audio index=0




Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote:

> That's not on any compatibility list anywhere, but it has worked OK for
> years on Wheezy on the same computer hardware. Anyway, USB is USB, and
> there really shouldn't be compatibility issues for at least basic
> playback. I'm not trying to record or use SPDIF.

could be that support in the snd_usb_audio driver is not provided anymore
for this device or is not working properly ... and BTW USB is not USB -
there is USB1, USB2 and now USB3

I still think if you don't see the device, the card is unsupported in the
usb audio driver

So I looked for you in the kernel config - it looks like the hid you find
are the audio jack controls, but I do not see the second one.

I think it is a problem with the codec or you need to load SND_HDA_GENERIC
and SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA

perhaps they are not autoloaded

you could also try loading the intel hda driver, it should pull related (if
it succeeds to load without hardware)

regards

Symbol: HID_CMEDIA [=n] 
   │
  │ Type  : tristate  
 │
  │ Prompt: CMedia CM6533 HID audio jack controls 
 │
  │   Location:   
 │
  │ -> Device Drivers 
 │
  │   -> HID support  
 │
  │ -> HID bus support (HID [=y]) 
 │
  │ (1)   -> Special HID drivers  
 │
  │   Defined at drivers/hid/Kconfig:225  
 │
  │   Depends on: INPUT [=y] && HID [=y]  
 │
  │   
 │
  │   
 │
  │ Symbol: SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA [=m] 
 │
  │ Type  : tristate  
 │
  │ Prompt: Build C-Media HD-audio codec support  
 │
  │   Location:   
 │
  │ -> Device Drivers 
 │
  │   -> Sound card support (SOUND [=m])  
 │
  │ -> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (SND [=m])   
 │
  │ (2)   -> HD-Audio 
 │
  │   Defined at sound/pci/hda/Kconfig:189
 │
  │   Depends on: SOUND [=m] && !UML && SND [=m] && SND_HDA [=m]  
 │
  │   Selects: SND_HDA_GENERIC [=m] 


Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread Joe
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:53:39 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> > > does the command alsa-info give a clue?  
> > 
> > I didn't know about that one. It gives pages of stuff that look like
> > what I used to find in /proc/asound, it certainly knows all about
> > the USB device. No error messages, no suggestion as to what might be
> > missing.  
> 
> Since it's USB, the obvious next step is "lsusb".
> 
> Or, really, *any* information you can provide about this USB sound
> device would be useful at this point.
> 

OK, a bit more. After some crawling under furniture, I was able to plug
the device into my netbook, running 32-bit Stretch. It works fine
there. I did lsmod, and apart from some snd_hda_ modules for the
built-in sound, there are no modules there that aren't also in the
server. The codecs are all HDA.

Back on the server:

~$ sudo lsusb
.
.
Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0d8c:0102 C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM106 Like
Sound Device .
.

That's not on any compatibility list anywhere, but it has worked OK for
years on Wheezy on the same computer hardware. Anyway, USB is USB, and
there really shouldn't be compatibility issues for at least basic
playback. I'm not trying to record or use SPDIF.

~$ sudo lshw -C sound
  *-usb:1   
   description: Audio device
   product: USB Sound Device
   vendor: C-Media Electronics, Inc.
   physical id: 5
   bus info: usb@4:5
   version: 0.10
   capabilities: usb-1.10 audio-control
   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=500mA speed=12Mbit/s

~$ sudo lsmod | grep usbhid
usbhid 53248  0
hid   122880  2 hid_generic,usbhid
usbcore   253952  9
usbhid,snd_usb_audio,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_pci,snd_usbmidi_lib,uas,ohci_hcd,ehci_pci

~$ sudo lsmod | grep snd
snd_usb_audio 180224  0
snd_usbmidi_lib28672  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_hwdep  16384  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi32768  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
snd_seq_device 16384  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm   110592  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_timer  32768  1 snd_pcm
snd86016  7
snd_hwdep,snd_usb_audio,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm
soundcore  16384  1 snd usbcore   253952  9
usbhid,snd_usb_audio,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_pci,snd_usbmidi_lib,uas,ohci_hcd,ehci_pci

~$ speaker-test

speaker-test 1.1.3

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
ALSA lib confmisc.c:767:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4528:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib
confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings ALSA lib
conf.c:4528:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned
error: No such file or directory ALSA lib
confmisc.c:1246:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name ALSA lib
conf.c:4528:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned
error: No such file or directory ALSA lib
conf.c:5007:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or
directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2495:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM
default Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory

Presumably this is just a fancy way of saying that /proc/asound isn't
there.

I did the alsa-info, but that produces a really huge ream of stuff, and
I can't see any errors or warnings in it. There was a warning flashed
up for a millisecond or two during the gathering of data: 

pcilib: sysfs_read_vpd: read failed: input/output error

but I'm not sure that is relevant. There is a long list of card
capabilities produced, so there's communication going on.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, arne wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:26:56
> From: arne 
> To: deloptes 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, sp113...@telfort.nl
> Subject: Re: Sound in Stretch
> Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:27:13 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:49:34 +0200
> deloptes  wrote:
>
> > Joe wrote:
> >
> > > alsamixer
> > >
> > > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
> > >
> > > I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking
> > > in /proc/asound to find out what the system thought my sound cards
> > > were, but that directory no longer exists.
> >
> > you sure you have the driver loaded?
> >
> > ls -al /proc/asound/
> > total 0
> > dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 .
> > dr-xr-xr-x 253 root root 0 Sep 10 21:49 ..
> > dr-xr-xr-x   8 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card0
> > dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 cards
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 devices
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 hwdep
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 modules
> > dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 oss
> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 PCH -> card0
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 pcm
> > dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 seq
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 timers
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 version
> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 Webcam -> card1
> >
> > stretch
> >
> > regards
> >
>
> does the command alsa-info give a clue?
>
If that doesn't work, aplay -l may help.
>

-- 



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > does the command alsa-info give a clue?
> 
> I didn't know about that one. It gives pages of stuff that look like
> what I used to find in /proc/asound, it certainly knows all about the
> USB device. No error messages, no suggestion as to what might be
> missing.

Since it's USB, the obvious next step is "lsusb".

Or, really, *any* information you can provide about this USB sound device
would be useful at this point.



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Curt wrote:

> curty@einstein:~$ /usr/sbin/alsa
> alsabat-test  alsactl       alsa-info

thanks - i didn't look in sbin

regards



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote:

> Is there conceivably an issue in Stretch of having USB sound but no
> on-board sound? Is that causing the boot process not to build the sound
> infrastructure properly? There is a spare PCIe slot, but it's tiny, and
> I'm not sure I can get a cheap card that will physically fit.

I do not think it is required to have any audio device. Your use case should
work, but it might be a kernel/driver issue - don't have time to check now,
but you can check if the device is supported in the kernel you have now.

then it should work when plugged in (udev etc).

many things changes since wheezy


regards



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Joe
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:23:58 +0200
deloptes  wrote:

> Joe wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200  
> 
> > 
> > OK, aplay -l as root sees my USB device as card 1.  
> 
> why as root - are you in the audio group?

No users in audio yet apart from the original installation user. The
ssh user doesn't need sound, which will only ever be used by www-data.

But the infrastructure should be present without anyone logged in. In
the past, I've always been able to see /proc/asound as root. It's just
not there now. /dev sees the device.

I do have a Stretch workstation, also a clean installation, but that
has on-board Intel sound and is therefore a different beast. It
certainly does have a /proc/asound.

I also plugged in another USB sound device to the server, also as it
happens a C-Media device, but a different, much older one. Exactly the
same: syslog sees it being recognised, aplay -l sees it, but
speaker-test still can't see it and no additional modules are loaded.
Still no sign of /proc/asound, which I think is the main fault symptom.

> 
> $ grep audio /etc/group
> audio:x:29:abcdef,pulse,timidity
> 
> > 
> > I have various sound modules loaded, including snd, soundcore and
> > snd_usb_audio. I assume from this that my device driver has been
> > found.
> > 
> > Speaker-test is unable to find any sound cards.  
> 
> what is the sound card, mainboard etc.?

It's a C-Media USB device, described by lsusb as a 'CM106 Like Sound
Device'. I can't see any obvious problems with this sort of thing on
the Net. The computer is a HP Proliant Microserver with AMD CPU and
graphics. It doesn't appear to have any on-board sound, and lshw
doesn't name the MB.

Again, this computer and sound device did work under Wheezy. I've been
using the device since before Wheezy, and bought it to replace the older
C-Media device. That was a very cheap VOIP device and seemed a bit
flaky, occasionally disconnecting from USB and immediately
reconnecting. Both devices produced sound OK.

Is there conceivably an issue in Stretch of having USB sound but no
on-board sound? Is that causing the boot process not to build the sound
infrastructure properly? There is a spare PCIe slot, but it's tiny, and
I'm not sure I can get a cheap card that will physically fit.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Brian
On Tue 11 Sep 2018 at 08:23:58 +0200, deloptes wrote:

> Joe wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200
> 
> > 
> > OK, aplay -l as root sees my USB device as card 1.
> 
> why as root - are you in the audio group?

Having a user in the audio group is unnecessary. ACLs on the devices are
used.

brian@desktop:~$ ls -l /dev/snd/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   60 Jul  9 09:45 by-path
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  2 Jul  9 09:45 controlC0
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  4 Aug 28 18:56 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  3 Sep 10 20:45 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  6 Jul  9 09:45 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  5 Jul  9 09:45 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  1 Jul 14 20:58 seq
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Jul 14 20:58 timer

brian@desktop:~$ getfacl /dev/snd/timer
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/snd/timer
# owner: root
# group: audio
user::rw-
user:brian:rw-
group::rw-
mask::rw-
other::---

-- 
Brian.



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Brian
On Tue 11 Sep 2018 at 08:27:02 +0200, deloptes wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > alsa-base
> 
> in stretch there is no alsa-base

That isn't in dispute.

-- 
Brian.



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-11, deloptes  wrote:
> arne wrote:
>
>> does the command alsa-info give a clue?
>
> what is alsa-info?
>
> $ alsa
> alsabatalsa_inalsaloop   alsamixer  alsa_out   alsatplg   alsaucm
>
> regards
>
>

>

curty@einstein:~$ /usr/sbin/alsa
alsabat-test  alsactl   alsa-info 

You're a hacker all right, bless your heart.




Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Brian wrote:

> alsa-base

in stretch there is no alsa-base

$ dpkg -l | grep alsa
ii  alsa-utils  1.1.3-1 
   
amd64Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
ii  gstreamer1.0-alsa:amd64 1.10.4-1
   
amd64GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  libsox-fmt-alsa:amd64   14.4.1-5+b2 
   
amd64SoX alsa format I/O library
ii  libzita-alsa-pcmi0:amd640.2.0-4 
   
amd64C++ wrapper around the ALSA API



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200

> 
> OK, aplay -l as root sees my USB device as card 1.

why as root - are you in the audio group?

$ grep audio /etc/group
audio:x:29:abcdef,pulse,timidity

> 
> I have various sound modules loaded, including snd, soundcore and
> snd_usb_audio. I assume from this that my device driver has been found.
> 
> Speaker-test is unable to find any sound cards.

what is the sound card, mainboard etc.?

For example here I have intel HD based card on the board and a web cam
attached (the usb) and HDMI display link. You can ignore the midi. So good
modules loaded look like this

$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_usb_audio 184320  2
snd_usbmidi_lib28672  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi32768  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
snd_seq_device 16384  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 57344  1
snd_hda_codec_conexant20480  1
snd_hda_codec_generic77824  1 snd_hda_codec_conexant
snd_hda_intel  32768  4
snd_hda_codec 118784  4
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep  16384  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_hda_core   65536  5
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm   102400  5
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer  32768  1 snd_pcm
snd81920  24
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi
soundcore  16384  1 snd
usbcore   221184  10
xhci_hcd,ehci_pci,snd_usb_audio,usbhid,snd_usbmidi_lib,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,btusb,xhci_pci,uhci_hcd





Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote:

> It occurs to me that there are no snd_xxx_codec modules loaded. Is that
> significant?

yes - seems like - what is your sound card - manufacturer?



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-11 Thread deloptes
arne wrote:

> does the command alsa-info give a clue?

what is alsa-info?

$ alsa
alsabatalsa_inalsaloop   alsamixer  alsa_out   alsatplg   alsaucm

regards



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Ric Moore

On 09/10/2018 04:22 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote:


There's no alsa-base in Stretch.

Should there be some other way of producing sounds?


If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils.  ALSA should just
work out of the box for most users who skip the Desktop Environment
during the installation (and therefore do not have to circumvent pulse).

The only steps required for most people are to install alsa-utils,
run alsamixer, unmute the master channels, and raise the volume of the
master channels above zero.



You have to do that even with pulse up and running. Ric


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Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:50:30 +0100
Joe  wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:26:56 +0200
> arne  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:49:34 +0200
> > deloptes  wrote:
> >   
> > > Joe wrote:
> > > 
> > > > alsamixer
> > > > 
> > > > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
> > > > 
> > > > I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking
> > > > in /proc/asound to find out what the system thought my sound
> > > > cards were, but that directory no longer exists.  
> > > 
> > > you sure you have the driver loaded?  
> 
> 
> I have sound modules loaded, which I thought meant the driver must
> have been found.
> 

It occurs to me that there are no snd_xxx_codec modules loaded. Is that
significant?

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:54:26 +0200
 wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:33:30PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:22:38 -0400
> > Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> >   
> > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote:  
> > > > 
> > > > There's no alsa-base in Stretch. 
> > > > 
> > > > Should there be some other way of producing sounds?
> > > 
> > > If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils.  ALSA should
> > > just work out of the box for most users who skip the Desktop
> > > Environment during the installation (and therefore do not have to
> > > circumvent pulse).
> > > 
> > > The only steps required for most people are to install alsa-utils,
> > > run alsamixer, unmute the master channels, and raise the volume
> > > of the master channels above zero.
> > >   
> > 
> > Thank you for an extremely prompt reply, but I've been there and
> > done that:
> > 
> > alsa-utils is already installed at the requested version (1.1.3-1)
> > 
> > alsamixer
> > 
> > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory  
> 
> You could try to list your cards and devices with aplay -l
> 
>

OK, aplay -l as root sees my USB device as card 1. 

I have various sound modules loaded, including snd, soundcore and
snd_usb_audio. I assume from this that my device driver has been found.

Speaker-test is unable to find any sound cards.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:26:56 +0200
arne  wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:49:34 +0200
> deloptes  wrote:
> 
> > Joe wrote:
> >   
> > > alsamixer
> > > 
> > > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
> > > 
> > > I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking
> > > in /proc/asound to find out what the system thought my sound cards
> > > were, but that directory no longer exists.
> > 
> > you sure you have the driver loaded?


I have sound modules loaded, which I thought meant the driver must have
been found.

> > 
> > ls -al /proc/asound/
> > total 0
> > dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 .
> > dr-xr-xr-x 253 root root 0 Sep 10 21:49 ..
> > dr-xr-xr-x   8 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card0
> > dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 cards
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 devices
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 hwdep
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 modules
> > dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 oss
> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 PCH -> card0
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 pcm
> > dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 seq
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 timers
> > -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 version
> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 Webcam -> card1
> > 
> > stretch
> > 
> > regards
> >   
> 
> does the command alsa-info give a clue?
> 

I didn't know about that one. It gives pages of stuff that look like
what I used to find in /proc/asound, it certainly knows all about the
USB device. No error messages, no suggestion as to what might be
missing.

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Sep 2018 at 21:19:09 +0100, Joe wrote:

> 
> There's no alsa-base in Stretch. 
> 
> Should there be some other way of producing sounds?

In jessie alsa-base has precisely two files:

 /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/changelog.gz
 /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/copyright

It is doubtful either of these is invovloved in the production of sound.

Also:

 
https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.27+1_changelog

  * The still-useful bits of alsa-base (kmod configuration files) have moved
to kmod itself in version 17-1. There is nothing of use left in
alsa-base, so for jessie, it'll just become a dummy package that helps
cleaning up its old conffiles. It will be dropped after the jessie
release.

You obviously have some issue with sound but it is impossible to discover
what it is.

-- 
Brian.



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread arne
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:49:34 +0200
deloptes  wrote:

> Joe wrote:
> 
> > alsamixer
> > 
> > cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
> > 
> > I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking
> > in /proc/asound to find out what the system thought my sound cards
> > were, but that directory no longer exists.  
> 
> you sure you have the driver loaded?
> 
> ls -al /proc/asound/
> total 0
> dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 .
> dr-xr-xr-x 253 root root 0 Sep 10 21:49 ..
> dr-xr-xr-x   8 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card0
> dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card1
> -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 cards
> -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 devices
> -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 hwdep
> -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 modules
> dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 oss
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 PCH -> card0
> -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 pcm
> dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 seq
> -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 timers
> -r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 version
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 Webcam -> card1
> 
> stretch
> 
> regards
> 

does the command alsa-info give a clue?



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread tomas
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:33:30PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:22:38 -0400
> Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > > 
> > > There's no alsa-base in Stretch. 
> > > 
> > > Should there be some other way of producing sounds?  
> > 
> > If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils.  ALSA should just
> > work out of the box for most users who skip the Desktop Environment
> > during the installation (and therefore do not have to circumvent
> > pulse).
> > 
> > The only steps required for most people are to install alsa-utils,
> > run alsamixer, unmute the master channels, and raise the volume of the
> > master channels above zero.
> > 
> 
> Thank you for an extremely prompt reply, but I've been there and done
> that:
> 
> alsa-utils is already installed at the requested version (1.1.3-1)
> 
> alsamixer
> 
> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory

You could try to list your cards and devices with aplay -l

Cheers
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Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote:

> alsamixer
> 
> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
> 
> I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking in /proc/asound
> to find out what the system thought my sound cards were, but that
> directory no longer exists.

you sure you have the driver loaded?

ls -al /proc/asound/
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 .
dr-xr-xr-x 253 root root 0 Sep 10 21:49 ..
dr-xr-xr-x   8 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card0
dr-xr-xr-x   3 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 card1
-r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 19:50 cards
-r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 devices
-r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 hwdep
-r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 modules
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 oss
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 PCH -> card0
-r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 pcm
dr-xr-xr-x   2 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 seq
-r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 timers
-r--r--r--   1 root root 0 Sep 10 22:48 version
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 5 Sep 10 22:48 Webcam -> card1

stretch

regards



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Joe
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:22:38 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > 
> > There's no alsa-base in Stretch. 
> > 
> > Should there be some other way of producing sounds?  
> 
> If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils.  ALSA should just
> work out of the box for most users who skip the Desktop Environment
> during the installation (and therefore do not have to circumvent
> pulse).
> 
> The only steps required for most people are to install alsa-utils,
> run alsamixer, unmute the master channels, and raise the volume of the
> master channels above zero.
> 

Thank you for an extremely prompt reply, but I've been there and done
that:

alsa-utils is already installed at the requested version (1.1.3-1)

alsamixer

cannot open mixer: No such file or directory

I always used to start sound troubleshooting by looking in /proc/asound
to find out what the system thought my sound cards were, but that
directory no longer exists.

This, by the way, is a clean no-X installation of Stretch, running in
hardware that previously ran Wheezy, with working sound. The sound
'card' is a cheap generic USB thing, which the kernel is seeing.
Various sound modules are loaded. I presume I've got to install or
configure something else, but I can't find the slightest clue on the
Net. One Debian sound page refers to Sarge...

-- 
Joe

-- 
Joe



Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> 
> There's no alsa-base in Stretch. 
> 
> Should there be some other way of producing sounds?

If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils.  ALSA should just
work out of the box for most users who skip the Desktop Environment
during the installation (and therefore do not have to circumvent pulse).

The only steps required for most people are to install alsa-utils,
run alsamixer, unmute the master channels, and raise the volume of the
master channels above zero.



Re: (solved) Re: sound card problem

2018-09-06 Thread deloptes
David Christensen wrote:

> I would expect personal computer sound card line-in and microphone
> inputs to use the same design analog-to-digital converter.  So, the
> sampling rates and bit depths should be the same.
> 
> 
> But, microphone inputs are usually monaural. So, if you use a stereo
> patch cable from your television to your computer, you will only hear
> the left channel.
> 
> 
> And, microphone inputs usually have more analog gain. So, you will need
> to turn the television volume down and/or reduce the microphone gain in
> your mixer application.  Either can reduce the signal quality.  Failure
> to do so will result in clipping.
> 
> 
> You will get the best recording if you connect the television line-out
> to the computer line-in and match the signal levels.

He does not know what brand his PC is and no info on the card - it is hard
to say where and how it should be plugged in.

regards



Re: (solved) Re: sound card problem

2018-09-05 Thread David Christensen

On 09/05/2018 05:35 PM, Long Wind wrote:

PS: is recording quality of mic same as linein?


I would expect personal computer sound card line-in and microphone 
inputs to use the same design analog-to-digital converter.  So, the 
sampling rates and bit depths should be the same.



But, microphone inputs are usually monaural. So, if you use a stereo 
patch cable from your television to your computer, you will only hear 
the left channel.



And, microphone inputs usually have more analog gain. So, you will need 
to turn the television volume down and/or reduce the microphone gain in 
your mixer application.  Either can reduce the signal quality.  Failure 
to do so will result in clipping.



You will get the best recording if you connect the television line-out 
to the computer line-in and match the signal levels.



David



Re: sound card problem

2018-09-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Sep 2018 at 00:15:23 (+), Long Wind wrote:
> sorry, this question isn't linux specific

It's unspecific in several other ways.

> TV audio output

What sort of output? Intended for speakers, or headphones,
or a line-style output.

> is connected to linein of my sound card

What sound card is that? Enumerate the inputs and outputs,
how they are labelled, and which ones you are using.

> speaker is connected to output of sound card

What, directly? Full-size passive speakers, or active ones with
some sort of amplification built into them.

> tv sound can be heard even when pc is shut down

How loud? Just as loud as when the PC is running with the mixers
turned up, turned down, muted? Or just loud enough to be a
distraction if you're, say, dozing/sleeping in the same room?

> i have to turn off speaker, this isn't convenient

You say "turn off" rather than "disconnect". Is that because the
speakers are being run from an amplifier that's independent of the
sound card?

> i mute all in mixer before shutting down stretch, it doesn't help
> is there any solution? Thanks!

Dunno. But it helps to have the problem explained.
We can't do house calls!

Cheers,
David.



Re: sound card problem

2018-09-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/5/18, deloptes  wrote:
> Long Wind wrote:
>
>> Thank deloptes!
>>
>> i'm unable to find manual for motherboardand i browse thru BIOS menu,
>> unable to find related option
>
> you hear sound even when you turn off and unplug your computer?


That's what I'm imagining from the description, too. Sounds like all
power's off to the computer... so I'm imagining that...

The card doesn't need "power" to work? Apparently no. This is the
first time I've ever thought about that aspect. That's a constant
checkpoint for things like those CHEAP $5 external hard drive adapters
that have no enclosures, but it's never been a factor for
PCI'ish/plugs into the motherboard type hardware.

Is there some kind of direct wiring going on between the linein and
lineout points? Yeah, I know, never mind on that one. There has to be
something like that for it to work even when the power switch is on.
Something goes in and can only go back out if there is an unbroken
line of connectivity somehow within the product. :)

Those thoughts are coming from sitting here reading Long Wind's
description while knowing that my speakers power on and off separate
from the computer. Wish I had some way to (kicks 'n' giggles) test the
same to see if mine duplicates the result.

Afterthought: This is a stretch of the imagination, YES, but

Is there any way it could be seen as an exploitable vulnerability
where it's possible to interact within the computer even when it's
turned off completely?

Absolute worse, hopefully totally impossible scenario would be that
the boogeyman burglar busts into your office one night, plants some
bad mojo on that PCI card, you boot up your computer the next morning,
and off that bad mojo goes running throughout the rest of the internal
workings...

Yes, I do understand that the card would have to be capable of certain
[tasks]. If that card's not capable, maybe others are?


> input/output might be shortened on the board - why would you look at BIOS?

Hail Mary pass...? Apparently because it's that annoying a (dis)feature? :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *



Re: sound card problem

2018-09-05 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote:

> Thank deloptes!
> 
> i'm unable to find manual for motherboardand i browse thru BIOS menu,
> unable to find related option

you hear sound even when you turn off and unplug your computer?

input/output might be shortened on the board - why would you look at BIOS?

regards



Re: sound card problem

2018-09-05 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote:

> i mute all in mixer before shutting down stretch, it doesn't help
> is there any solution? Thanks!

why do you think it is a software issue? After machine is switched off the
software is dead. Look at the description of the mainboard



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