Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:17:43 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Mon 17 Oct 2011 at 16:38:31 +, Walter Hurry wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:45:25 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> > On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:38:30 +0200, Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote:
>> > 
>> > Nope, wrong recipient ;-P
>> 
>> And wrong spelling.

Sure X-)

> Mails pointing out speling mistaikes and misdirected postings are
> frowned upon by advice given in the 'Debain Guidelines for Acceptible
> Communication with debian-user' which is found at
> 
> http://www.debian-common-sense.org/pointless-postings

sm01@stt008:~$ whois debian-common-sense.org
NOT FOUND

You must be kidding or wrong: choose your poison :-)

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Brian]

On Mon 17 Oct 2011 at 16:38:31 +, Walter Hurry wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:45:25 +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:38:30 +0200, Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote:
> > 
> > Nope, wrong recipient ;-P
> 
> And wrong spelling.

Mails pointing out speling mistaikes and misdirected postings are
frowned upon by advice given in the 'Debain Guidelines for Acceptible
Communication with debian-user' which is found at

http://www.debian-common-sense.org/pointless-postings


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Walter Hurry]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:45:25 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:38:30 +0200, Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote:
> 
> Nope, wrong recipient ;-P

And wrong spelling.



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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 19:59:14 -0400, Randy Kramer wrote:

> On Friday 02 September 2011 07:27:09 am Camaleón wrote:
>> Let's take Lisi's posting messages as sample:
>>
>> - They're non-GPG/PGP signed (or at least I can't see it from headers
>> :-?) - They're text based
>> - They have no e-mail footer
>>
>> Having a mbox archive would help to diagnose such cases :-)
> 
> The copy I have of Lisi's post:
> 
> Re: Dual Boot.
> From: Lisi  (resent from
> debian-user@lists.debian.org)
>   To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>   Date: Fri Sep  2 03:52:40 2011
> 
> Has the email footer for unsubscribing...

(...)

You see the footer but I don't (I see this¹), that was the problem.

¹http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416407

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Randy Kramer]

On Friday 02 September 2011 07:27:09 am Camaleón wrote:
> Let's take Lisi's posting messages as sample:
>
> - They're non-GPG/PGP signed (or at least I can't see it from headers :-?)
> - They're text based
> - They have no e-mail footer
>
> Having a mbox archive would help to diagnose such cases :-)

The copy I have of Lisi's post:

Re: Dual Boot.
From: Lisi  (resent from debian-user@lists.debian.org)
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Date: Fri Sep  2 03:52:40 2011

Has the email footer for unsubscribing...

Or do you mean something else by "posting messages"?

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:04:13 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Friday 02 September 2011 12:27:09 Camaleón wrote:
>> Let's take Lisi's posting messages as sample:
>>
>> - They're non-GPG/PGP signed (or at least I can't see it from headers
>> :-?) - They're text based
>> - They have no e-mail footer
> 
> That is just a quirk of Gmane.  My own postings arrive in my inbox with
> the email footer intact.

Yep, so it seems. I shut put then :-x

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:39:11 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

> On 02/09/11 12:27, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:23:03 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
>>
>>> Camaleón wrote:
 My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the
 footer appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But
 this is not a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by
 observing the messages that reach the list.
>>>
>>> Simple plain text messages get the footer added.  Signed messages do
>>> not since addin the footer would break the signature.
>>
>> Let's take Lisi's posting messages as sample:
>>
>> - They're non-GPG/PGP signed (or at least I can't see it from headers
>> :-?) - They're text based
>> - They have no e-mail footer
>  They do here (see attached)
> 
> This is the point. Different people are seeing different effects.

(...)

I see... then it can be indeed Gmane making noise at my end.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Lisi]

On Friday 02 September 2011 12:27:09 Camaleón wrote:
> Let's take Lisi's posting messages as sample:
>
> - They're non-GPG/PGP signed (or at least I can't see it from headers :-?)
> - They're text based
> - They have no e-mail footer

That is just a quirk of Gmane.  My own postings arrive in my inbox with the 
email footer intact.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 02/09/11 12:27, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:23:03 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not
a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
messages that reach the list.


Simple plain text messages get the footer added.  Signed messages do not
since addin the footer would break the signature.


Let's take Lisi's posting messages as sample:

- They're non-GPG/PGP signed (or at least I can't see it from headers :-?)
- They're text based
- They have no e-mail footer

They do here (see attached)

This is the point. Different people are seeing different effects.


Having a mbox archive would help to diagnose such cases :-)

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On Thursday 01 September 2011 16:21:10 Camale=C3=B3n wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:51:07 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camale=C3=B3n wrote:
> >> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
> >> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not
> >> a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
> >> messages that reach the list.
> >
> > Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camale=C3=B3n, but I am subscribed and I u=
sually
> > (I would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)
>
> Then it has to be Gmane making some magic here because I don't see any
> footers in your e-mails, look:
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=3D416354
>
> While my messages are always "fted" :-)
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/f

Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:23:03 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
>> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not
>> a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
>> messages that reach the list.
> 
> Simple plain text messages get the footer added.  Signed messages do not
> since addin the footer would break the signature.

Let's take Lisi's posting messages as sample:

- They're non-GPG/PGP signed (or at least I can't see it from headers :-?)
- They're text based
- They have no e-mail footer

Having a mbox archive would help to diagnose such cases :-)

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:01:51 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

> On Qui, 01 Set 2011, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>> This one didn't (here).
>>
>> Is there any concensus on what/how/when these footers are added? It
>> seems quite random to me.
> 
> That message was GPG-signed, the footer is not added because it would
> break the signature. (Actually, it was added to another part of the
> multi-part message, but I could only see that by looking at the message
> source.)

(...)

Hum... I see many unsigned and text based messages that don't have the 
footer :-?

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:46:41 +, Walter Hurry wrote:

> FWIW, I don't receive list emails (since I opted out), and neither do I
> post directly. I both read and post via gmane; I find that far more
> convenient.

Me neither (I don't "receive" mailing list e-mails), I'm also a Pan 
user ;-)

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Darac Marjal]

On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 03:01:51PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On Qui, 01 Set 2011, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> >This one didn't (here).
> >
> >Is there any concensus on what/how/when these footers are added?
> >It seems quite random to me.
> 
> That message was GPG-signed, the footer is not added because it
> would break the signature. (Actually, it was added to another part
> of the multi-part message, but I could only see that by looking at
> the message source.)

I may be wrong myself, but this seams to be a bit of a myth going around
this thread. Adding a footer shouldn't break a GPG signature as GPG is
quite good at indicating what part of the message is signed. The eMail
is sent as a multipart/signed message consisting of:
 - multipart/signed
   - text/plain
   - application/pgp-signature

All the list processor needs to do is add another layer of
multipart/related:
 - multipart/related
   - multipart/signed
 - text/plain
 - application/pgp-signature
   - text/plain
and the Signature will remain valid. Some MUAs may choose to warn that
only part of the message is signed, but this shouldn't be a problem for
most people.
   

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 08:44:13AM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 02/09/11 07:29, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> >On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 04:01:51PM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> >>On 01/09/11 15:55, Chris Brennan wrote:
> >>>Every e-mail I've gotten so far, has had the foot on it... So I think
> >>>it's safe to say, always does apply in my case.
> >>>
> >>... but this one didn't here.
> >>
> >
> >Because the mail was cryptographically signed (an semi-explanation is
> >elsewhere in this thread). Adding footers to the body will break the
> >signature, so they're not added.
> 
> Actually, it was, but not displayed (in T'bird)
> 
> From the source:
> 
> 
> [...]
> Uz+i+oZpal+xZejM78QhoRd5zXEA1u2PX6RJKx6mKfdasK7yPeBMofD4IiFGzTE=
> =P8mz
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> 
> --enigBD75A24B357A90CE063900B7--
> 
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> -
> 
> So, it looks like the footer is applied to *all* messages; but the
> MUA may, or may not, decide to display it.

It would seem to be a MIME problem. As the signature is simply tacked on
at the end, this works fine for simple messages. But text outside a MIME
message is... sort of orphaned. Ideally, the message processor should be
clever enough to add the signature in another multipart/related part.


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 02/09/11 07:29, Aaron Toponce wrote:

On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 04:01:51PM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

On 01/09/11 15:55, Chris Brennan wrote:

Every e-mail I've gotten so far, has had the foot on it... So I think
it's safe to say, always does apply in my case.


... but this one didn't here.



Because the mail was cryptographically signed (an semi-explanation is
elsewhere in this thread). Adding footers to the body will break the
signature, so they're not added.


Actually, it was, but not displayed (in T'bird)

From the source:


[...]
Uz+i+oZpal+xZejM78QhoRd5zXEA1u2PX6RJKx6mKfdasK7yPeBMofD4IiFGzTE=
=P8mz
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

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So, it looks like the footer is applied to *all* messages; but the MUA 
may, or may not, decide to display it.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Bob Proulx]

Camaleón wrote:
> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer 
> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not a 
> scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the 
> messages that reach the list.

Simple plain text messages get the footer added.  Signed messages do
not since addin the footer would break the signature.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Ivan Shmakov]

> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  writes:
> On Qui, 01 Set 2011, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 >> This one didn't (here).

 >> Is there any concensus on what/how/when these footers are added? It
 >> seems quite random to me.

 > That message was GPG-signed, the footer is not added because it would
 > break the signature. (Actually, it was added to another part of the
 > multi-part message, but I could only see that by looking at the
 > message source.)

 > I believe HTML mails also do not get the footer (or something along
 > the same lines is done).

Curiously enough, the message I'm replying to [1] didn't have
the footer, either.  (I'm looking at it as raw text, so MIME
doesn't matter.)

However, its Content-Type: is:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes

Which, I guess, is to be blamed for that, thanks to “DelSp=Yes”.
Seemingly, the mailing list software only adds the footer for
the single-part messages whose Content-Type: it recognizes.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Scott Ferguson]

On 02/09/11 01:01, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

On 01/09/11 15:55, Chris Brennan wrote:

On 9/1/2011 10:51 AM, Lisi wrote:

On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camale�n wrote:

My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is
not a
scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
messages that reach the list.


Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camale�n, but I am subscribed and I
usually (I
would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)

Lisi




Every e-mail I've gotten so far, has had the foot on it... So I think
it's safe to say, always does apply in my case.


... but this one didn't here.


Curiously - if you look in the source of *all* posts on the list you find:-
[quote]
List-Unsubscribe: 


[/quote]
Something broken? If that code was in the post appended signature people 
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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Charlie]

 On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 15:51:07 +0100 "Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com"
 suggested this:

>Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I
>usually (I would have said always, but I just checked) get the
>footers. :-)

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:01:51 -0300
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  wrote:

Hello Eduardo,

> That message was GPG-signed, the footer is not added because it would  
> break the signature. (Actually, it was added to another part of the  
> multi-part message, but I could only see that by looking at the  
> message source.)

Yes, I'd forgotten that.  So, in reality, all messages do have the
footer, but it doesn't always get displayed.

As you say, mime/multipart has a role in this.  I do remember seeing an
explanation as to why the footer doesn't display, even if you select
different parts of the message, but don't recall what that explanation
was.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Walter Hurry]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:01:51 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

> That message was GPG-signed, the footer is not added because it would
> break the signature. (Actually, it was added to another part of the
> multi-part message, but I could only see that by looking at the message
> source.)
> 
> I believe HTML mails also do not get the footer (or something along the
> same lines is done).

I too think it is something like that. Incidentally, I really *wish* 
people would not post in HTML.



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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Walter Hurry]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:39:17 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Thursday 01 September 2011 18:08:06 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> it would be great if Debian users list would switch to mailman.
> 
> Why?  What's wrong with it as it is?  I like it.

+1. Using Pan and posting via gmane works for me. Plus I can killfile the 
idiots (only two I've noticed thus far, and neither in this thread) 
should I so choose.



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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On Qui, 01 Set 2011, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

This one didn't (here).

Is there any concensus on what/how/when these footers are added? It  
seems quite random to me.


That message was GPG-signed, the footer is not added because it would  
break the signature. (Actually, it was added to another part of the  
multi-part message, but I could only see that by looking at the  
message source.)


I believe HTML mails also do not get the footer (or something along  
the same lines is done).



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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 01/09/11 13:30, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:53:17 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

Hello Camaleón,


Okay, but not all of the messages I receive from this list append the
footer... or maybe is just me? :-?


Not just you.  However, the vast majority of messages *do* contain the
footer.


This one didn't (here).

Is there any concensus on what/how/when these footers are added? It 
seems quite random to me.


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Walter Hurry]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:21:10 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:51:07 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camaleón wrote:
>>> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
>>> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is
>>> not a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by
>>> observing the messages that reach the list.
>> 
>> Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I
>> usually (I would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers.
>> :-)
> 
> Then it has to be Gmane making some magic here because I don't see any
> footers in your e-mails, look:
> 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=416354
> 
> While my messages are always "fted" :-)
> 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=416354
> 

FWIW, I don't receive list emails (since I opted out), and neither do I 
post directly. I both read and post via gmane; I find that far more 
convenient.



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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Lisi]

On Thursday 01 September 2011 18:08:06 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> it would be great if Debian users list
> would switch to mailman.

Why?  What's wrong with it as it is?  I like it.

Lisi


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 16:30 +,
debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
[snip]

Didn't read the whole thread, but it would be great if Debian users list
would switch to mailman.

0,02€

Ralf


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:53:17 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

Hello Camaleón,

> Okay, but not all of the messages I receive from this list append the 
> footer... or maybe is just me? :-?

Not just you.  However, the vast majority of messages *do* contain the
footer.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:21:10 +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

> While my messages are always "fted" :-)
> 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=416354
 
Ooops, this is the correct link:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416352

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Lisi]

On Thursday 01 September 2011 16:21:10 Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:51:07 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camaleón wrote:
> >> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
> >> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not
> >> a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
> >> messages that reach the list.
> >
> > Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I usually
> > (I would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)
>
> Then it has to be Gmane making some magic here because I don't see any
> footers in your e-mails, look:
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=416354
>
> While my messages are always "fted" :-)
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=416354

And I see them both on my own posts and on yours.  ??

Lisi


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:51:07 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camaleón wrote:
>> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
>> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not
>> a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
>> messages that reach the list.
> 
> Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I usually
> (I would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)

Then it has to be Gmane making some magic here because I don't see any 
footers in your e-mails, look:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=416354

While my messages are always "fted" :-)

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/416330/focus=416354

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Lisi]

On Thursday 01 September 2011 16:01:51 Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 01/09/11 15:55, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > On 9/1/2011 10:51 AM, Lisi wrote:
> >> On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camaleón wrote:
> >>> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
> >>> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not
> >>> a scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
> >>> messages that reach the list.
> >>
> >> Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I usually
> >> (I would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)
> >>
> >> Lisi
> >
> > Every e-mail I've gotten so far, has had the foot on it... So I think
> > it's safe to say, always does apply in my case.
>
> ... but this one didn't here.


Nor here. :-/

Lisi


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 01/09/11 15:55, Chris Brennan wrote:

On 9/1/2011 10:51 AM, Lisi wrote:

On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camaleón wrote:

My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not a
scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
messages that reach the list.


Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I usually (I
would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)

Lisi




Every e-mail I've gotten so far, has had the foot on it... So I think
it's safe to say, always does apply in my case.


... but this one didn't here.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Chris Brennan]

On 9/1/2011 10:51 AM, Lisi wrote:
> On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camaleón wrote:
>> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
>> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not a
>> scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
>> messages that reach the list.
> 
> Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I usually (I 
> would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)
> 
> Lisi
> 
> 

Every e-mail I've gotten so far, has had the foot on it... So I think
it's safe to say, always does apply in my case.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Lisi]

On Thursday 01 September 2011 15:25:56 Camaleón wrote:
> My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer
> appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not a
> scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the
> messages that reach the list.

Sorry to kybosh your theory, Camaleón, but I am subscribed and I usually (I 
would have said always, but I just checked) get the footers. :-)

Lisi


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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:10:10 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

> On 01/09/11 12:53, Camaleón wrote:

>>> If the OP is incapable of reading the footer on every post to the
>>> list, what makes you think (s)he is able to read your instructions?
>>> ;-)
>>
>> I'd say he is "he" ("Esteban" looks like a typical male name) but in
>> the end, who knows... as one my favorites sayings/illustrations goes
>> "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" :-P
>>
> ... or a gecko; but maybe it's a dog's name :_)

Woof, woof! Err, I mean, yes O:-)
 
>> Okay, but not all of the messages I receive from this list append the
>> footer... or maybe is just me? :-?
>>
> Hmm, you're right... I thought the list server added them, but it
> doesn't appear universal. Strange.

My guess is that non-subscribers users (like me) do receive the footer 
appended at their messages but subscribed users do not. But this is not a 
scientific statement, just a wild theory I concluded by observing the 
messages that reach the list.

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Re: [OT] Re: unsuscribe

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 01/09/11 12:53, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:04:35 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:


On 01/09/11 11:51, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:30:37 -0600, Esteban Monge wrote:

Nice try... but not that way :-)


If the OP is incapable of reading the footer on every post to the list,
what makes you think (s)he is able to read your instructions? ;-)


I'd say he is "he" ("Esteban" looks like a typical male name) but in the
end, who knows... as one my favorites sayings/illustrations goes "On the
Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" :-P


... or a gecko; but maybe it's a dog's name :_)


Okay, but not all of the messages I receive from this list append the
footer... or maybe is just me? :-?

Hmm, you're right... I thought the list server added them, but it 
doesn't appear universal. Strange.


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