Re: [SPAM tagged by PCNET] Re: Forcing question to be asked while presseeding

2014-06-01 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-31, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

 tasksel tasksel/first seen false

 That's one of the failures.
 Has that worked for anyone?

I dunno.

How about:

tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, desktop
d-i preseed/early_command string . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule; db_get
debconf/priority; case $RET in low|medium) db_fset tasksel/first seen
false ;; esac


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Re: [SPAM tagged by PCNET] Re: Forcing question to be asked while presseeding

2014-05-31 Thread Richard Owlett

Brian wrote:

On Tue 27 May 2014 at 08:19:24 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide
   Appendix B. Automating the installation using preseeding
 B.5.2. Using preseeding to change default values
AND
 B.2.2. Using boot parameters to preseed questions
suggest that I should be able to accomplish my goal. I need some
actual example to understand what the text is saying.


Which text is this that you do not understand?


Actually BOTH ;
  B.5.2. states It is possible to use preseeding to change the 
default answer

 for a question...
  B.2.2. states If a preconfiguration file cannot be used to 
preseed some steps,

 the install can still be fully automated...

That verifies feasibility.




My goal is to force the menu which asks to chose among typical uses
(i.e. Desktop|print server|laptop|etc).


Using preseeding to set a default answer for a question but still have
the question asked is described. Is there anything there which is not
amenable to a quick test or two?



Agreed ;/
I actually did two tests. Both *FAILED*.
The only conclusion (documentation assumed correct) is I be clueless.
Both tests based on pseudo-code in B.5.2.

Many decades ago, as an engineering co-op student, I LEARNED that 
what one writes/reads is heavily dependent on one's previous 
experience.


That's why I requested pointer to KNOWN WORKING example.



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Re: [SPAM tagged by PCNET] Re: Forcing question to be asked while presseeding

2014-05-31 Thread Brian
[Please don't shout. I've got a headache.]

On Sat 31 May 2014 at 06:35:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

 Brian wrote:
 
 Using preseeding to set a default answer for a question but still have
 the question asked is described. Is there anything there which is not
 amenable to a quick test or two?
 
 Agreed ;/
 I actually did two tests. Both *FAILED*.
 The only conclusion (documentation assumed correct) is I be clueless.
 Both tests based on pseudo-code in B.5.2.
 
 Many decades ago, as an engineering co-op student, I LEARNED that
 what one writes/reads is heavily dependent on one's previous
 experience.
 
 That's why I requested pointer to KNOWN WORKING example.

Do you think it might help if we had details of the tests done?


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Re: [SPAM tagged by PCNET] Re: Forcing question to be asked while presseeding

2014-05-31 Thread Richard Owlett

Brian wrote:

[Please don't shout. I've got a headache.]

On Sat 31 May 2014 at 06:35:55 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


Brian wrote:


Using preseeding to set a default answer for a question but still have
the question asked is described. Is there anything there which is not
amenable to a quick test or two?


Agreed ;/
I actually did two tests. Both *FAILED*.
The only conclusion (documentation assumed correct) is I be clueless.
Both tests based on pseudo-code in B.5.2.

Many decades ago, as an engineering co-op student, I LEARNED that
what one writes/reads is heavily dependent on one's previous
experience.

That's why I requested pointer to KNOWN WORKING example.


Do you think it might help if we had details of the tests done?




No!

Only one of the tests was relevant to my stated goal.
The other was a random test to see if marking ANYTHING as not 
seen worked.

That is why I EXPLICITLY asked for pointer to ANY *WORKING* example.




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Re: [SPAM tagged by PCNET] Re: Forcing question to be asked while presseeding

2014-05-31 Thread Richard Owlett

Curt wrote:

On 2014-05-27, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:


My goal is to force the menu which asks to chose among typical
uses (i.e. Desktop|print server|laptop|etc).



Have you tried

# set the default
tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, desktop
# have the question asked anyway
tasksel tasksel/first seen false

?





That's one of the failures.
Has that worked for anyone?



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Re: [SPAM tagged by PCNET] Re: Forcing question to be asked while presseeding

2014-05-31 Thread Brian
[My headache is turning into a migraine.]

On Sat 31 May 2014 at 16:20:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

 Brian wrote:
 [Please don't shout. I've got a headache.]
 
 Do you think it might help if we had details of the tests done?
 
 No!
 
 Only one of the tests was relevant to my stated goal.

Knowing details of that one would mean we had more to go on than we had
previously.

 The other was a random test to see if marking ANYTHING as not seen
 worked.

And knowing this would also increase our knowledge considerably.

 That is why I EXPLICITLY asked for pointer to ANY *WORKING* example.

It could come in time. Considering you are holding your cards so close
to your chest I suppose asking what priority you ran d-i at may be a
fruitless question.


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