Re: 100% used / file system. Doh!

2011-09-23 Thread Lisi
On Friday 23 September 2011 00:01:49 Bob Proulx wrote:
> Since you seem to have disk space now you should take a quick moment
> and install xdu.

Have already done so following your earlier advice - immediately I had a 
functioning machine!

Thanks again,
Lisi


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Re: 100% used / file system. Doh!

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > After you clean up your disk space I would install xdu as a package.
> > Then clean up your ~/bin/xdu version as a final step since you won't
> > need it anymore.
> 
> Thank you, Bob, for going to so much trouble to help me.  As I keep saying - 
> possibly to the point of tedium? - I really appreciate all the help I'm 
> getting.

Since you seem to have disk space now you should take a quick moment
and install xdu.

  # apt-get install xdu

Then it will be available for next time.  Visualization of disk space
usage is really useful!

  # du -xk / | tee /var/log/du-xk.out

  $ xdu /var/log/du-xk.out

Bob


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Re: 100% used / file system. Doh!

2011-09-22 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 22:00:24 Bob Proulx wrote:
> Lisi wrote:
> > Have just realised that I can't do this yet because I haven't yet solved
> > the problem of installing it!!
>
> I am not sure how important this particular program is but I think it
> will help.
>
> Since it is really just a single binary program you can go through and
> grab a copy of it manually.  It has a few manual steps but isn't that
> hard.  Since you have space in /home you can do this.  You very likely
> have the things needed such as 'ar', 'tar', and the libx11-6, libxaw7,
> libxt6 libraries already installed.
>
> Go to this URL:
>
>   http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/xdu
>
> Download the package to your home directory for your architecture.  I
> will assume i386 for now.  You will have this file:
>
>   -rw-rw-r-- 1 15908 Sep 20 14:48 xdu_3.0-17_i386.deb
>
> You can unpack that using dpkg-source but that is in the dpkg-dev
> package and you might not have it.  However debs are simply 'ar'
> achive files and you almost certainly already have ar available since
> it is required by many, many other packages.
>
>   $ ar t xdu_3.0-17_i386.deb
>   debian-binary
>   control.tar.gz
>   data.tar.gz
>
> There are three files in the archive.  You want the data.tar.gz file
> from it.
>
>   $ ar xv xdu_3.0-17_i386.deb data.tar.gz
>   x - data.tar.gz
>
>   $ tar tvzf data.tar.gz | grep bin/xdu
>   -rwxr-xr-x root/root 15996 2006-10-08 04:27 ./usr/bin/xdu
>
>   $ tar xzvf data.tar.gz ./usr/bin/xdu
>   ./usr/bin/xdu
>
> That extracted the program to the current directory and created the
> usr and bin directories under it.  Those are extra for our purposes so
> lets clean those up.  Let's put this in your $HOME/bin directory.  I
> assume you already have one of those.  If not then make it.
>
>   $ mkdir ~/bin
>   $ mv usr/bin/xdu ~/bin/
>
> Then clean up.
>
>   $ rmdir usr/bin usr
>   $ rm data.tar.gz
>
> At this point the program should run for you.  (Unless you are missing
> a library.)  If ~/bin is already in your PATH then you don't need to
> do anything special.  If not then for the moment just call it from
> there.
>
>   $ ~/bin/xdu /home/du-xk.out
>
> Also, I should note that it is important to run the du as root so that
> it actually has access to all of the directories.
>
>   # du -xk / | tee /home/du-xk.out
>
> After you clean up your disk space I would install xdu as a package.
> Then clean up your ~/bin/xdu version as a final step since you won't
> need it anymore.
>
> Good luck!
> Bob

Thank you, Bob, for going to so much trouble to help me.  As I keep saying - 
possibly to the point of tedium? - I really appreciate all the help I'm 
getting.

Lisi


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Re: 100% used / file system. Doh!

2011-09-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 9/20/2011 4:00 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Lisi wrote:

Have just realised that I can't do this yet because I haven't yet solved the
problem of installing it!!


I am not sure how important this particular program is but I think it
will help.




Following this tangent is taking Lisi further away from a solution, not 
closer to it, and simply wasting her time.


With all due respect to my colleagues who have responded, it seems 
you've all given her your pet favorite ways of dealing with this type of 
problem, instead of giving her short concise instructions on how to 
identify and then fix the actual problem.


To this point we still don't know what the problem actually is.  You 
have (unless I missed a post) all assumed she's out of disk space.  She 
could very well be out of inodes.  She needs to determine that BEFORE 
attempting a fix, and before laboriously trying to hunt down files that 
are apparently filling the filesystem, when that may not be the problem 
at all.


To use an applicable old carpentry meme, "Measure twice, cut once."

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Re: 100% used / file system. Doh!

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi wrote:
> Have just realised that I can't do this yet because I haven't yet solved the 
> problem of installing it!!

I am not sure how important this particular program is but I think it
will help.

Since it is really just a single binary program you can go through and
grab a copy of it manually.  It has a few manual steps but isn't that
hard.  Since you have space in /home you can do this.  You very likely
have the things needed such as 'ar', 'tar', and the libx11-6, libxaw7,
libxt6 libraries already installed.

Go to this URL:

  http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/xdu

Download the package to your home directory for your architecture.  I
will assume i386 for now.  You will have this file:

  -rw-rw-r-- 1 15908 Sep 20 14:48 xdu_3.0-17_i386.deb

You can unpack that using dpkg-source but that is in the dpkg-dev
package and you might not have it.  However debs are simply 'ar'
achive files and you almost certainly already have ar available since
it is required by many, many other packages.

  $ ar t xdu_3.0-17_i386.deb
  debian-binary
  control.tar.gz
  data.tar.gz

There are three files in the archive.  You want the data.tar.gz file
from it.

  $ ar xv xdu_3.0-17_i386.deb data.tar.gz
  x - data.tar.gz

  $ tar tvzf data.tar.gz | grep bin/xdu
  -rwxr-xr-x root/root 15996 2006-10-08 04:27 ./usr/bin/xdu

  $ tar xzvf data.tar.gz ./usr/bin/xdu
  ./usr/bin/xdu

That extracted the program to the current directory and created the
usr and bin directories under it.  Those are extra for our purposes so
lets clean those up.  Let's put this in your $HOME/bin directory.  I
assume you already have one of those.  If not then make it.

  $ mkdir ~/bin
  $ mv usr/bin/xdu ~/bin/

Then clean up.

  $ rmdir usr/bin usr
  $ rm data.tar.gz

At this point the program should run for you.  (Unless you are missing
a library.)  If ~/bin is already in your PATH then you don't need to
do anything special.  If not then for the moment just call it from
there.

  $ ~/bin/xdu /home/du-xk.out

Also, I should note that it is important to run the du as root so that
it actually has access to all of the directories.

  # du -xk / | tee /home/du-xk.out

After you clean up your disk space I would install xdu as a package.
Then clean up your ~/bin/xdu version as a final step since you won't
need it anymore.

Good luck!
Bob


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Re: 100% used / file system. Doh!

2011-09-20 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 20 September 2011 21:38:41 Lisi wrote:
> Thanks, Bob.  I am about to try this - but before pressing enter and
> putting my box out of commission for the night as a result, I wanted to
> thank you for yet another constructive reply from this amazing list. :-)

Have just realised that I can't do this yet because I haven't yet solved the 
problem of installing it!!

Lisi


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