Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian
How long would it have taken an experienced Linux user to do a quick install of three different distributions just to make sure something major wasn't missing? Maybe a day at most? W install all three distributions on our TRI-LINUX cd on two different boxes ... one that is all IDE and one that has a NCR SCSI and a AHA 1542. It takes about 3 hours when two of us are working on it. We then create a gold, verify it bit for bit, and test the install one more time. Before we ship a silver CD we do a bit for bit test again and usually install one of the three distributions. The Debian 1.3 install is much improved from previous versions. It autodetected the subdirectory where I put the startup stuff and required only a single boot floppy. A far cry from the 6 floppies needed in previous versions. I think the quality and ease of the basic installation is now second to none. -Dan Linux System Labs (The Linux Publishing Company) TRI-LINUX with Debian 1.3, Red Hat 4.2 and Slackware 3.2 is now shipping! check out http://www.lsl.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian
Glenn asked: Does anyone know if Infomagic corrected the missing files for Debian on their April LDR? I complained about the missing files to InfoMagic and got the following reply: E.L. This set was mirrored on the basis of what the Debian Folks put on their site for a stable distribution. We didn't include any of the beta release. regards, henry m. pierce Now there is a short uninterested reply if ever I saw one. It is possible that it is true though. That's why I think it is a good idea that there will be official CD images. Maybe the Debian community should not forbid anyone to just mirror the ftp-site, but it would be nice if proven CD releases get an `official debian release' stamp or something like that. Obviously, InfoMagic is not going to get one. An even shorter and less interested reply (i.e., none) I got from the debian web master ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) however. I commented that on http://www.debian.org/vendors.html, there is a link to infomagic's december 1996 CD-ROM set, which actually leads you to a page about the April 1997 CD-ROM set, which misses a number of important files. Maybe it is a good idea to point this out on Debian's web pages, instead of hinting people to buy that CD-ROM set, _which will not work_ (but then again, maybe we don't care if they instead start using the Slackware or RedHat version on those CD-ROM's (if _these_ work...)). Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian
Eric == E L Meijer \(Eric\) E.L. writes: Eric Glenn asked: Does anyone know if Infomagic corrected the missing files for Debian on their April LDR? Eric I complained about the missing files to InfoMagic and got Eric the following reply: Eric Eric E.L. Eric This set was mirrored on the basis of what the Debian Eric Folks put on their site for a stable distribution. We Eric didn't include any of the beta release. Eric regards, henry m. pierce Eric Eric Now there is a short uninterested reply if ever I saw one. Eric It is possible that it is true though. That's why I think Eric it is a good idea that there will be official CD images. Eric Maybe the Debian community should not forbid anyone to just Eric mirror the ftp-site, but it would be nice if proven CD Eric releases get an `official debian release' stamp or something Eric like that. Obviously, InfoMagic is not going to get one. Their reply also indicates they didn't try to install their product before shipping to the masses. That it pretty bad quality control. I guess it is time to change vendors. Thanks for the info! Glenn -- Glenn Amerine Inet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems AnalystVoice: (614)224-1336 Metropolitan Human Services Commission Fax: (614)224-6472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian
So they didn't test it. I don't suppose a CD publisher who is distributing other folks' stuff would ever be able to--especially in the absence of a test suite. Their test should be to deliver a pre-press CD to Debian for confirmation. Don't change vendors, change procedures. If InfoMagic can't play by an allow-verification-of-master procedure with the agreement that they won't publish it if not approved (in a timely manner) by Debian... *then* change vendors. --emk Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:33:54 -0400 From: Glenn Amerine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org (debian) Subject: Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Eric == E L Meijer \(Eric\) E.L. writes: Eric Glenn asked: Does anyone know if Infomagic corrected the missing files for Debian on their April LDR? Eric I complained about the missing files to InfoMagic and got Eric the following reply: Eric Eric E.L. Eric This set was mirrored on the basis of what the Debian Eric Folks put on their site for a stable distribution. We Eric didn't include any of the beta release. Eric regards, henry m. pierce Eric Eric Now there is a short uninterested reply if ever I saw one. Eric It is possible that it is true though. That's why I think Eric it is a good idea that there will be official CD images. Eric Maybe the Debian community should not forbid anyone to just Eric mirror the ftp-site, but it would be nice if proven CD Eric releases get an `official debian release' stamp or something Eric like that. Obviously, InfoMagic is not going to get one. Their reply also indicates they didn't try to install their product before shipping to the masses. That it pretty bad quality control. I guess it is time to change vendors. Thanks for the info! Glenn -- Glenn Amerine Inet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems Analyst Voice: (614)224-1336 Metropolitan Human Services CommissionFax: (614)224-6472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: April Infomagic LDR Debian
Edward == Edward McKnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edward So they didn't test it. I don't suppose a CD publisher who Edward is distributing other folks' stuff would ever be able Edward to--especially in the absence of a test suite. Their test Edward should be to deliver a pre-press CD to Debian for Edward confirmation. Edward Don't change vendors, change procedures. If InfoMagic Edward can't play by an allow-verification-of-master procedure Edward with the agreement that they won't publish it if not Edward approved (in a timely manner) by Debian... *then* change Edward vendors. I'm not saying they should have or even could have ran each distribution through a test suite (even if they existed), nor am I saying they should have ran a test suite through all the packages contained in each distribution, which would be way too costly and time consuming. What I am saying however is that pressing disks without even seeing if an operating system is installable or not is poor quality control. Period. That would be like a programmer sending out a tarball without un-taring, configuring and compiling the actual files that are going to be sent out rather than making the assumption It builds from my source tree so it will build from the files I'm sending out. How long would it have taken an experienced Linux user to do a quick install of three different distributions just to make sure something major wasn't missing? Maybe a day at most? Glenn -- Glenn Amerine Inet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems AnalystVoice: (614)224-1336 Metropolitan Human Services Commission Fax: (614)224-6472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
