Re: Borked e-mail threading [Was Re: HylaFax receives rubbish]

2004-08-26 Thread S.D.A.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:50:39AM -0400 or thereabouts, Chris Metzler wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:26:50 -0400
> "S.D.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:01:00PM -0700 or thereabouts, Rodney D. Myers
> > wrote:
> >  
> >> Not according to Sylpheed. Both times he started new threads
> > 
> > That's one of the reasons why I dropped Sylpheed early on!
> 
> Except I use Sylpheed, and it threaded the posts just fine, tacked onto
> the previous unrelated threads.

Interesting.

> > The reason why they appeared differently for you, is that Sylpheed most
> > likely only sorts by subject/date, (aka psuedo threading).
>
> Nope.

Must have been fixed in later releases. When I was using it off/on several
years ago, (if my memory is correct), it didn't do proper threading.

Does it do message-id threading by default, or is it user configurable?




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Re: Borked e-mail threading [Was Re: HylaFax receives rubbish]

2004-08-26 Thread Wayne Topa
John Summerfield([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> S.D.A. wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:01:00PM -0700 or thereabouts, Rodney D. Myers 
> >wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>Not according to Sylpheed. Both times he started new threads
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >That's one of the reasons why I dropped Sylpheed early on!
> >
> >If one has an e-mail client that does real threading, which uses the 
> >message-id,
> >then those messages would have appeared in thread(s), totally unrelated to 
> >what
> >those threads were discussing. This is what happened here.
> >
> >Since most of the expert help on deb-user, is available from those using 
> >e-mail
> >clients like mutt, then it behooves one to know about responding properly. 
> >One
> >should create a new message, not hit reply and subsitute a new subject 
> >(that
> >keeps the original message-id in the headers).
> >
> >The reason why they appeared differently for you, is that Sylpheed most 
> >likely
> >only sorts by subject/date, (aka psuedo threading).
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> This is an excellent example of what happens when some twit uses "reply" 
> when "compose" is appropriate. I use an email client that threads 
> properly, this is going to be rolled up under "Can't post to...." where 
> I won't see it any more.

Now all you have to do John if get them to fix the To: & Cc: problem.

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Re: Borked e-mail threading [Was Re: HylaFax receives rubbish]

2004-08-26 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:26:50 -0400
"S.D.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:01:00PM -0700 or thereabouts, Rodney D. Myers
> wrote:
>  
>> Not according to Sylpheed. Both times he started new threads
> 
> That's one of the reasons why I dropped Sylpheed early on!

Except I use Sylpheed, and it threaded the posts just fine, tacked onto
the previous unrelated threads.


> The reason why they appeared differently for you, is that Sylpheed most
> likely only sorts by subject/date, (aka psuedo threading).

Nope.

-c


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Re: Borked e-mail threading [Was Re: HylaFax receives rubbish]

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
S.D.A. wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:01:00PM -0700 or thereabouts, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
 

Not according to Sylpheed. Both times he started new threads
   

That's one of the reasons why I dropped Sylpheed early on!
If one has an e-mail client that does real threading, which uses the message-id,
then those messages would have appeared in thread(s), totally unrelated to what
those threads were discussing. This is what happened here.
Since most of the expert help on deb-user, is available from those using e-mail
clients like mutt, then it behooves one to know about responding properly. One
should create a new message, not hit reply and subsitute a new subject (that
keeps the original message-id in the headers).
The reason why they appeared differently for you, is that Sylpheed most likely
only sorts by subject/date, (aka psuedo threading).
 

This is an excellent example of what happens when some twit uses "reply" 
when "compose" is appropriate. I use an email client that threads 
properly, this is going to be rolled up under "Can't post to" where 
I won't see it any more.


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