Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Geoff Reidy geoff.re...@gmail.com wrote: I had a similar issue but with a 2 card, 3 monitor setup. Applying the patch as per this thread: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1306609postcount=19 against the 190.53 driver has fixed it for me. I had this issue under 2.6.32-trunk too. The nvidia module compiled with module-assistant would load fine but the Xorg error showed that the module could not be found. The above worked for me. Thanks for posting this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Geoff Reidy geoff.re...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, it's working now with the 190.53 driver (installed using the nvidia installer) and the 2.6.26 kernel, so I'm happy for now! Since an xorg update a few days ago, it's not working with anything. Compiling against the current stock 2.6.32 kernel, with the header package installed, works, but the X server crashes after showing the Nvidia splash screen briefly. This is way too frustrating! I'm able to start the X server with no xorg.conf, and the Xorg.0.log indicates that I'm using the nv driver (with no glx, because the Nvidia glx driver, which is still installed, doesn't work with the nv driver; is there one which does?). I tried the latest nvidia packages from sid, but no joy there either (same symptoms). I'm next going to try sgfxi, as Paul Cartwright suggested (thanks). I need my GoogleEarth (and it needs functioning glx)! Tried sgfxi - the script congratulated me on a successful install of the latest driver, and then the X server failed again, showing me the Nvidia splash screen for a moment, a couple of times. The X server works - I'm using it now, with the nv driver. Shooot! Patrick I had a similar issue but with a 2 card, 3 monitor setup. Applying the patch as per this thread: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1306609postcount=19 against the 190.53 driver has fixed it for me. Not for me unfortunately; still the same symptoms. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 06:49:39PM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, it's working now with the 190.53 driver (installed using the nvidia installer) and the 2.6.26 kernel, so I'm happy for now! Since an xorg update a few days ago, it's not working with anything. Compiling against the current stock 2.6.32 kernel, with the header strange when I tried to compile against the 2.6.32 headers it failed (it works against the 2.6.32-trunk though) package installed, works, but the X server crashes after showing the Nvidia splash screen briefly. This is way too frustrating! I'm able to start the X server with no xorg.conf, and the Xorg.0.log indicates that I'm using the nv driver (with no glx, because the Nvidia glx driver, which is still installed, doesn't work with the nv driver; is there one which does?). I tried the latest nvidia packages from sid, but no joy there either (same symptoms). I'm next going to try sgfxi, as Paul Cartwright suggested (thanks). I need my GoogleEarth (and it needs functioning glx)! Patrick -- Only through hard work and perseverance can one truly suffer. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, it's working now with the 190.53 driver (installed using the nvidia installer) and the 2.6.26 kernel, so I'm happy for now! Since an xorg update a few days ago, it's not working with anything. Compiling against the current stock 2.6.32 kernel, with the header package installed, works, but the X server crashes after showing the Nvidia splash screen briefly. This is way too frustrating! I'm able to start the X server with no xorg.conf, and the Xorg.0.log indicates that I'm using the nv driver (with no glx, because the Nvidia glx driver, which is still installed, doesn't work with the nv driver; is there one which does?). I tried the latest nvidia packages from sid, but no joy there either (same symptoms). I'm next going to try sgfxi, as Paul Cartwright suggested (thanks). I need my GoogleEarth (and it needs functioning glx)! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, it's working now with the 190.53 driver (installed using the nvidia installer) and the 2.6.26 kernel, so I'm happy for now! Since an xorg update a few days ago, it's not working with anything. Compiling against the current stock 2.6.32 kernel, with the header package installed, works, but the X server crashes after showing the Nvidia splash screen briefly. This is way too frustrating! I'm able to start the X server with no xorg.conf, and the Xorg.0.log indicates that I'm using the nv driver (with no glx, because the Nvidia glx driver, which is still installed, doesn't work with the nv driver; is there one which does?). I tried the latest nvidia packages from sid, but no joy there either (same symptoms). I'm next going to try sgfxi, as Paul Cartwright suggested (thanks). I need my GoogleEarth (and it needs functioning glx)! Tried sgfxi - the script congratulated me on a successful install of the latest driver, and then the X server failed again, showing me the Nvidia splash screen for a moment, a couple of times. The X server works - I'm using it now, with the nv driver. Shooot! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, it's working now with the 190.53 driver (installed using the nvidia installer) and the 2.6.26 kernel, so I'm happy for now! Since an xorg update a few days ago, it's not working with anything. Compiling against the current stock 2.6.32 kernel, with the header package installed, works, but the X server crashes after showing the Nvidia splash screen briefly. This is way too frustrating! I'm able to start the X server with no xorg.conf, and the Xorg.0.log indicates that I'm using the nv driver (with no glx, because the Nvidia glx driver, which is still installed, doesn't work with the nv driver; is there one which does?). I tried the latest nvidia packages from sid, but no joy there either (same symptoms). I'm next going to try sgfxi, as Paul Cartwright suggested (thanks). I need my GoogleEarth (and it needs functioning glx)! Tried sgfxi - the script congratulated me on a successful install of the latest driver, and then the X server failed again, showing me the Nvidia splash screen for a moment, a couple of times. The X server works - I'm using it now, with the nv driver. Shooot! Patrick I had a similar issue but with a 2 card, 3 monitor setup. Applying the patch as per this thread: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1306609postcount=19 against the 190.53 driver has fixed it for me. sgfxi drops the driver file in /usr/src/ Geoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Andreas Weber ae...@worldwideweber.ch wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: Slow for what purposes? 3D graphics? Real-time animated games? I don't do either of those things. I mainly use X for web browsing. I also sometimes play a simple 2D game like Solitaire. Is the proprietary Nvidia driver really going to make a dramatic improvement for things like that? Actually it's impressive to see users of other OSs turn their eyes round when they see you changing the active window with Cover switch or doing a desktop change when the cube turns. ;-) If you like 3D stuff, you'll get it with the Nvidia driver. But I see exactly what you're saying. You'll see no difference when you code in vi. Could it be that the problems of the Nvidia driver not working have their reason in a non working xorg.conf file? What is it's content? As the driver installer suggest his own version, and from my experience this works extremely well (screen, mouse with all buttons c.), this could also be the source of the problem AFAICS. I always let the nvidia installer replace my xorg.conf, so that's not the problem in my case. I had suspected the headers against which I was compiling, but I tried both the headers package and the configured source and had the same problem, namely the Nvidia splash screen appearing for a few seconds (meaning that the driver is working?) and then the server crashing. Maybe there's something hanging around on my system that's interfering, but I don't know what. Anyway, it's working now with the 190.53 driver (installed using the nvidia installer) and the 2.6.26 kernel, so I'm happy for now! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:49:43 -0500 (EST), Andreas Weber wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: Slow for what purposes? 3D graphics? Real-time animated games? I don't do either of those things. I mainly use X for web browsing. I also sometimes play a simple 2D game like Solitaire. Is the proprietary Nvidia driver really going to make a dramatic improvement for things like that? Actually it's impressive to see users of other OSs turn their eyes round when they see you changing the active window with Cover switch or doing a desktop change when the cube turns. ;-) If you like 3D stuff, you'll get it with the Nvidia driver. But I see exactly what you're saying. You'll see no difference when you code in vi. Thanks, Paul and Andreas, for your indulgence in answering my curiousity question. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:09:42AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I've been following the threads of people frustrated with getting nvidia drivers to work, and have experienced much of that frustration myself over the last few days. I've tried everything to get my nvidia working with the 2.6.30 and 2.6.32 kernels (I'm on a lenovo ThinkPad T61p, amd64, testing) with no success, and have reverted to the 2.6.26 stock kernel, against which I successfully compiled, installed, and am now using the 190.53 nvidia driver, which I installed using the nvidia installer. That's the only way which has ever worked for me. I post this just to suggest the same solution to others who have experienced the same frustration. (And my next Linux laptop will not have Nvidia video, however good it is - and it is - when it works.) very strange, my normal process for adding nvidia (built a laptop at the end of last year) install module assist via aptitude, install nvidia-kernel-source the latest version with aptitude. then m-a prepare m-a -t build nvidia then I can install that deb file and the corresponding nvidia glx files. It hasn't failed me in a while, last time was the jump to 2.6.26 Or 2.6.28 when the lastest nvidia bin wouldn't build and we had to use the legacy packager Alex Patrick -- My thoughts are, we're going to get somebody who knows what they're talking about when it comes to rebuilding cities. - George W. Bush 09/02/2005 Biloxi, MS On how the rebuilding of New Orleans might commence signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:09:42 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I've been following the threads of people frustrated with getting nvidia drivers to work, and have experienced much of that frustration myself over the last few days. I've tried everything to get my nvidia working with the 2.6.30 and 2.6.32 kernels (I'm on a lenovo ThinkPad T61p, amd64, testing) with no success, and have reverted to the 2.6.26 stock kernel, against which I successfully compiled, installed, and am now using the 190.53 nvidia driver, which I installed using the nvidia installer. That's the only way which has ever worked for me. I post this just to suggest the same solution to others who have experienced the same frustration. (And my next Linux laptop will not have Nvidia video, however good it is - and it is - when it works.) Please pardon my ignorance, but curiosity has gotten the best of me. What exactly is the draw that this proprietary Nvidia driver has that the open source nv driver does not have? I use the nv driver on two of my machines, both of which have Nvidia chipsets, and, at least for my purposes, it works just fine. What does the proprietary driver give you that the nv driver doesn't? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
Patrick Wiseman wrote: I post this just to suggest the same solution to others who have experienced the same frustration. (And my next Linux laptop will not have Nvidia video, however good it is - and it is - when it works.) I'm curious what exactly the problems were that you faced. When I decided to buy a new Mac Mini, I did it _because_ it has a Nvidia GPU. I've been using all Nvidia proprietary drivers since 2.6.26 (currently 2.6.32-trunk-AMD64 on sid), and I never had the slightest problem (except some KDE 4.0 bugs that went away with the new Nvidia drivers since 185.x). The proprietary drivers work extremely well for multiple displays, HDMI and all that 3D animation bling etc. that's not really needed but just looks fancy. ;-) Don't know if that would work with the nv drivers, too. Mind to tell us what went wrong? ändu signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:17:34 -0500 (EST), Paul Cartwright wrote: On Fri January 29 2010, Stephen Powell wrote: Please pardon my ignorance, but curiosity has gotten the best of me. What exactly is the draw that this proprietary Nvidia driver has that the open source nv driver does not have? I use the nv driver on two of my machines, both of which have Nvidia chipsets, and, at least for my purposes, it works just fine. What does the proprietary driver give you that the nv driver doesn't? the nv driver is SLOW... S L O W when you see the difference between logging in using the nv driver, and logging in with the nvidia driver, you will ask WHY you waited so long for the NV driver to load... if you have annvidia card, you really REALLY WANT the nvidia driver. I'm not happy with what we have to go through to load it, but I'd rather load it or replace it than use the nv driver. Just my opinion:) Slow for what purposes? 3D graphics? Real-time animated games? I don't do either of those things. I mainly use X for web browsing. I also sometimes play a simple 2D game like Solitaire. Is the proprietary Nvidia driver really going to make a dramatic improvement for things like that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
On Fri January 29 2010, Stephen Powell wrote: Slow for what purposes? 3D graphics? Real-time animated games? I don't do either of those things. I mainly use X for web browsing. I also sometimes play a simple 2D game like Solitaire. Is the proprietary Nvidia driver really going to make a dramatic improvement for things like that? I have seen where it takes longer just to load my desktop with the nv driver. To be honest, I haven't used the nv driver, except when nvidia failed, and I had to load nv, until I could get nvidia working. google nv vs nvidia.. here is one example: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/nv 3D Acceleration Status At present the nv driver has no 3D acceleration. Nvidia will not provide the hardware specifications needed to add 3D support. However, some reverse engineering has been done for the Riva, TNT, and Geforce hardware. The UtahGLX project has basic 3D acceleration support. Help is needed to port this to DRI. For details see the DRI Nvidia Page. A Freedesktop.org project called nouveau has been started to work on 3D support. See the project's Feature Matrix for current development status. For additional info on 3D acceleration support in general, see the free3d.org wiki. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 http://usdebtclock.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can only get Nvidia driver to work with 2.6.26
Stephen Powell wrote: Slow for what purposes? 3D graphics? Real-time animated games? I don't do either of those things. I mainly use X for web browsing. I also sometimes play a simple 2D game like Solitaire. Is the proprietary Nvidia driver really going to make a dramatic improvement for things like that? Actually it's impressive to see users of other OSs turn their eyes round when they see you changing the active window with Cover switch or doing a desktop change when the cube turns. ;-) If you like 3D stuff, you'll get it with the Nvidia driver. But I see exactly what you're saying. You'll see no difference when you code in vi. Could it be that the problems of the Nvidia driver not working have their reason in a non working xorg.conf file? What is it's content? As the driver installer suggest his own version, and from my experience this works extremely well (screen, mouse with all buttons c.), this could also be the source of the problem AFAICS. ändu signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
