Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-10 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 19:13, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

  $ mplayer proprietary.rm -oa pcm -oafile=open.wav

Slight bugfix, I think that last command should be '-oafile open.wav'
without the = sign.

 How do you do that for video files?  My school does some courses over 
 the web with streaming video (WMV, of course).  After the class session 
 they make the whole WMV video available as a download.  I've been 
 burning them to CD, but I hate to keep them in WMV format, I'd rather 
 use an open format.  Speaking of which, what is a good open format for 
 video (preferably one that MPlayer supports since I already have it).

I've not tried this with video files, but I'd expect you need to use
mencoder - that will usually output an .AVI container, although I think
you can tell it to write MPEG-1 program streams, too.

As for the best 'open' codec format, you're probably more likely to get
better platform coverage by storing them as MPEG4 with an .AVI container
AKA 'DivX' since they can then be played by just about any platform, and
even some standalone DVD players (like the KiSS ones, for example)

This is hardly an 'open' solution, but more likely to be able to be
played back on any modern OS.

Cheers,
Gavin.



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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Michael D Schleif
Ryan Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:09:00:47:57-0500] scribed:
 On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:22:40PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
  I am constantly receiving realaudio files, and I want to listen to them;
  but, I do not want to install non-free programs on my system.
  
  Is there some way to convert these audio files to some other format,
  preferably by CLI?
 
 Check out vsound.

Cool -- but, it still requires realplayer, which is what I am avoiding
;

Other ideas?

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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Michael D Schleif wrote:

 I am constantly receiving realaudio files, and I want to listen to them;
 but, I do not want to install non-free programs on my system.
 
 Is there some way to convert these audio files to some other format,
 preferably by CLI?
 
mplayer can play realplayer files (I guess that audio too). I'm not sure
about converting them though...

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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Michael D Schleif
Haim Ashkenazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:09:16:13:15+0200] scribed:
 Michael D Schleif wrote:
 
  I am constantly receiving realaudio files, and I want to listen to them;
  but, I do not want to install non-free programs on my system.
  
  Is there some way to convert these audio files to some other format,
  preferably by CLI?
  
 mplayer can play realplayer files (I guess that audio too). I'm not sure
 about converting them though...

Where do I get mplayer?  Is it `free'?  If so, why is it not in any of
my may sources?

What do you think?

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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:07:40AM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:

 Where do I get mplayer?  

deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main

 Is it `free'?  

Let's not reopen it on this list. Ask google about debian and mplayer.

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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Michael D Schleif
Dave Carrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:09:08:12:11-0700] scribed:
 On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:07:40AM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
 
  Where do I get mplayer?  
 
 deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main
 
  Is it `free'?  
 
 Let's not reopen it on this list. Ask google about debian and mplayer.

I'll take that as a `NO' . . .

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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Gavin Hamill

  mplayer can play realplayer files (I guess that audio too). I'm not sure
  about converting them though...

Since mplayer can play realmedia (it may need you to install the binary
realplayer for some of the very new formats, but I'm unsure on this
point), it can also send the output to a file... try something like

$ mplayer proprietary.rm -oa pcm -oafile=open.wav

If it turns out you need the realplayer, you can apt-get install
realplayer (from the deb repository at marillat.free.fr) and this will
unpack the binary installer for you and install it in a more
Debian-centric way :)

Cheers,
Gavin.



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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Michael D Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Carrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:09:08:12:11-0700] scribed:
  On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:07:40AM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
  
   Where do I get mplayer?  
  
  deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main
  
   Is it `free'?  
  
  Let's not reopen it on this list. Ask google about debian and mplayer.
 
 I'll take that as a `NO' . . .

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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Gavin Hamill wrote:
mplayer can play realplayer files (I guess that audio too). I'm not sure
about converting them though...


Since mplayer can play realmedia (it may need you to install the binary
realplayer for some of the very new formats, but I'm unsure on this
point), it can also send the output to a file... try something like
$ mplayer proprietary.rm -oa pcm -oafile=open.wav

If it turns out you need the realplayer, you can apt-get install
realplayer (from the deb repository at marillat.free.fr) and this will
unpack the binary installer for you and install it in a more
Debian-centric way :)
Cheers,
Gavin.
How do you do that for video files?  My school does some courses over 
the web with streaming video (WMV, of course).  After the class session 
they make the whole WMV video available as a download.  I've been 
burning them to CD, but I hate to keep them in WMV format, I'd rather 
use an open format.  Speaking of which, what is a good open format for 
video (preferably one that MPlayer supports since I already have it).

-Roberto


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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread csj
At Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:13:55 -0400,
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
 
 Gavin Hamill wrote:


[...]

  Since mplayer can play realmedia (it may need you to install
  the binary realplayer for some of the very new formats, but
  I'm unsure on this point), it can also send the output to a
  file... try something like
  
  $ mplayer proprietary.rm -oa pcm -oafile=open.wav

I think that should read:

$ mplayer proprietary.rm -ao pcm -aofile open.wav

[...]

 How do you do that for video files?

Use the companion mencoder program.  The command would be
something like:

mencoder -oac [some_audio_codec] -ovc [some_video_codec] \
  proprietary.rm -o less_proprietary.codec

 My school does some courses over the web with streaming video
 (WMV, of course).  After the class session they make the whole
 WMV video available as a download.  I've been burning them to
 CD, but I hate to keep them in WMV format, I'd rather use an
 open format.  Speaking of which, what is a good open format for
 video (preferably one that MPlayer supports since I already
 have it).

Open?  WMV is an open format.  Thanks to all those hackers
working on projects like mplayer, xine and ffmpeg.  Perhaps you
mean a free, you won't be threatened ever with a patent
infringement suit format?  You might try checking out
http://www.theora.org/ and the Matroska (maybe google can
spell-check that one for you ;-) project.


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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-09 Thread Roberto Sanchez
csj wrote:

My school does some courses over the web with streaming video
(WMV, of course).  After the class session they make the whole
WMV video available as a download.  I've been burning them to
CD, but I hate to keep them in WMV format, I'd rather use an
open format.  Speaking of which, what is a good open format for
video (preferably one that MPlayer supports since I already
have it).


Open?  WMV is an open format.  Thanks to all those hackers
working on projects like mplayer, xine and ffmpeg.  Perhaps you
mean a free, you won't be threatened ever with a patent
infringement suit format?  You might try checking out
http://www.theora.org/ and the Matroska (maybe google can
spell-check that one for you ;-) project.

Good point.  I did mean free 8)

-Roberto


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Re: Convert realaudio to free audio ???

2003-10-08 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
Check out vsound.

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:22:40PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
 I am constantly receiving realaudio files, and I want to listen to them;
 but, I do not want to install non-free programs on my system.
 
 Is there some way to convert these audio files to some other format,
 preferably by CLI?



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