Re: debian install

[Bob Underwood]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, EuphoriaDJ wrote:
 
> So should I go back to Corel which I got rid of because I did not see the
> advantage to learning another packager, OR
> should I try debian both have software I like and deb will most likily to be
> able to upgrade to X 4.0 and 2.4 kernel
> heck deb is using a beta kernel in it's stable release and from what I have
> stable is STABLE.
> 
> Anywho, Corel or Debian?
> will I have to use fdisk if I go to debian? corel partitions on it's own.
> If I use fdisk I will be erasing a BeOS partition to put linux on but I
> don't know for sure if this will mess up the
> MBR like winblows does any info would be cool.
> 
>
I am in the process of migratng my small home network from Corel (debian-based)
to debian.  Corel was a good intro for me, but..

If you use the official debian cd's, you will be allowed to install over the
present Corel partitions.  For the present, I'm using an outside boot manager
to manage the boot on the one dual boot machine.  Or you can choose to boot
debian from floppy.  (I don't really like doing that.)

just my opinion

bob

Re: debian install

[Sebastiaan]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, EuphoriaDJ wrote:

> I have been using gnu/linux for about four years and have used several
> dist's but I finally found out that apt
> is the packager I have been wanting and that it finds what you need when you
> want to install something.
> Perfect "NOW THAT IS A PACKAGE MANAGER!!"
> 
> So should I go back to Corel which I got rid of because I did not see the
> advantage to learning another packager, OR
> should I try debian both have software I like and deb will most likily to be
> able to upgrade to X 4.0 and 2.4 kernel
> heck deb is using a beta kernel in it's stable release and from what I have
> stable is STABLE.
> 
> Anywho, Corel or Debian?
Well, I choose Debian. From what I have heard from Corel is that it is
easy to set up and work with, but somewhat closed in manually configuring
and maintaining the system.


> will I have to use fdisk if I go to debian? corel partitions on it's own.
Not if you are going to replace Corel (and Corel uses ext2).


> If I use fdisk I will be erasing a BeOS partition to put linux on but I
> don't know for sure if this will mess up the
> MBR like winblows does any info would be cool.
Well, during install LILO will be installed, so you can boot up Debian. If
you alter the lilo.conf after installation to your needs, everything
should work fine.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan



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Re: debian install

[ktb]

Sugar will get you a lot more help here than vinegar.  This list *is* top
notch support.  Report exactly what the error that is occurring is and
someone will be able to help.
kent


- Original Message -
From: Richard McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 12:09 PM
Subject: debian install


Debian,
I bought debian thinking it was a purist Open Source product. However, I got
it home and can't get beyond installing the base system. The product hangs
and gives a message like"a problem occurred when installing Base System..."
Any suggestions? I bought  O'Reilly's "learning Debinan" with the cd in
back; same thing there as on the debian boxed product, advertised btw as
"the last linux os you will ever need to buy" O yeah?  Nothing on support,
nothing in the books, nothing on FAX. Do you guys support this product at
all?

armac
"The heart of man is devious beyond belief."

Re: debian install

[Paul J. Keenan]

On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:09:34PM -0600, Richard McNally wrote:
> Debian,
> I bought debian thinking it was a purist Open Source product. 

Well you were right then.

> However, I got it home and can't get beyond installing the base system. 
> The product hangs and gives a message like"a problem occurred when 
> installing Base System..."

I can get my car's doors open, but when I turn the key, it makes a funny 
noise.  Can you tell me what's wrong ?
>
> Any suggestions? I bought  O'Reilly's "learning Debinan" with the cd
> in back; same thing there as on the debian boxed product, advertised 
> btw as "the last linux os you will ever need to buy" O yeah?  Nothing 
> on support, nothing in the books, nothing on FAX. Do you guys support 
> this product at all?

Are you joking ?  I didn't see a smiley.  Many people give their time
and expertise free of charge by designing a product you don't need that
much support for in the first place (depending on your clue quotient)
or offering free advice in forums like this.

If you want to pay someone to come round and fix your machine based on 
the fact that you bought a book about a product that costs nothing 
anyway, then good luck.  Does the book tell you this will happen ?
I doubt it.

However, there are plenty of companies that would be delighted to take
your money for exactly this service.  But I wouldn't give up on your own
abilities combined with this no-charge forum's advice first.

You have a problem caused by the hardware (unlikely), the software
(unlikely) or you ( ... well, you decide).

>From the description you give above, it could be a million different
problems with a million solutions.  We could either send you the
aforementioned million solutions, which the list would rightly object
to, or you could help the situation by telling us exactly what you did,
what happened as a result and what exact error message you get.
A desription of your machine (disk configuration, RAM, processor,
peripherals, etc.) would not go amiss.

My advice would be to re-read (or read) the documentation, try it again,
noting what you're doing, and if you still get the same problem, post
again.  Politely.  We're not responsible for your confusion with a 
commercial book's advertising remarks.  If you want to understand
Debian's raison d'etre, then go to http://www.debian.org/ and get it
from the horses mouth.

P.S. Welcome to Debian !

> 
> armac

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Re: debian install

[John Hasler]

Richard McNally writes:
> Debian, I bought debian thinking it was a purist Open Source product.

Don't believe everything you read on IRC.

> I got it home and can't get beyond installing the base system. The
> product hangs and gives a message like"a problem occurred when installing
> Base System..."  Any suggestions?

Without specific, detailed information, no.  You have to tell us exactly
what hardware you have, exactly what Debian "product" you are trying to
install, exactly what you did, and exactly what happened.

> I bought O'Reilly's "learning Debinan" with the cd in back; same thing
> there as on the debian boxed product, advertised btw as "the last linux
> os you will ever need to buy" O yeah?  Nothing on support, nothing in the
> books, nothing on FAX.

If you want to gripe about the "product" direct your gripes to whoever sold
you the "product".  We are open to constructive criticism, but whining will
just get you ignored.

> Do you guys support this product at all?

Why should we?  We don't sell it: we don't sell anything.  We do, however,
support Debian users.
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Re: Debian install

[dman]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 11:06:01PM +0200, Søren Neigaard wrote:
| Hmmm... Ok I give up, I will make a CD, and install from that then. Is
| this the correct image for my i386 machine then:
| 
| ftp://ftp.sunsite.auc.dk/mirrors/debian-cd/2.2_rev3/i386/binary-i386-1.iso

Looks like a nice URL :-).  You can check the MD5 sums against the
master ones on *.debian.org somewhere to ensure that you have the
official image.

-D

Re: debian install

[Sebastiaan]

High,

On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx wrote:

> hello:
> 
> i got the following error while trying to install debian in the dselect stage:
> 
> E: Internal Error, couldn't configure a pre-depend. Some errors occurred
> while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed.
> This may be result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing
> dependencies.
> 
> This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix
> them and run [I]nstall again.
> 
> how do i fix this "pre-depend" problem??? any suggestions are greatly 
> appreciated.
> 
Just try to get the install going again:
apt-get -f install

will help.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan



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Re: debian install

[Jeff]

allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx, 2001-Nov-06 11:14 -0800:
> hello:
> 
> i got the following error while trying to install debian in the dselect stage:
> 
> E: Internal Error, couldn't configure a pre-depend. Some errors occurred
> while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed.
> This may be result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing
> dependencies.
> 
> This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix
> them and run [I]nstall again.
> 
> -- 

It looks as though some packages didn't get downloaded during the
"Get" phase.  The messages should indicate which ones.  Rerun
dselect "Install" a few times to see if they come across, if not,
you can change your sources.list to go to a different source site
and try again.

When you change your /etc/apt/sources.list is this situation, run
apt-get update to make sure all is well before going back into
dselect to run Install.

jc

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Re: debian install

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:14:53AM -0800, allen wayne best just ramblin in his 
amx ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> hello:
> 
> i got the following error while trying to install debian in the dselect stage:
> 
> E: Internal Error, couldn't configure a pre-depend. Some errors occurred
> while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed.
> This may be result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing
> dependencies.
> 
> This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix
> them and run [I]nstall again.

Try one of the following 'fixit' recipies:

$ apt-get install -f# tries to fix broken deps.
$ dpkg --configure -a   # configures all partially installed packages

...then try your dselect [I]nstall again.

I tend not to use dselect at all if possible.

Peace.

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Re: debian install

[DvB]

Artem Litvinovich wrote:


On installing debian...

Since I cant get easy access to any floppies, I burned an image of a debian
2.2r2 cd (only the fist cd, for now). I booted from the CD and created the
necessary partitians. Mounted root on one of them. Here I run into a
problem...
The next step is to install the kernel, I select "install from CD" and after
being prompted to insert the DEBIAN CD, a message pops up that says "could
not mount the CD" or something to that effect. What to do? Any way I can
avoid floppies?

Thanks, in advance, for your help.
//Artem



Sounds to me like you burned the wrong CD... I could be wrong though.

RE: debian install

[Artem Litvinovich]

The mount error message on the console says something about "invalid
arguement" when trying to mount /dev/cdrom /instmnt -o ro.

I assume the CD is good if it boots and lets me create/initialize partitians
and the mount the root. Am I wrong?

//Artem

-Original Message-
From: DvB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:31 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: debian install


Artem Litvinovich wrote:

>On installing debian...
>
>Since I cant get easy access to any floppies, I burned an image of a debian
>2.2r2 cd (only the fist cd, for now). I booted from the CD and created the
>necessary partitians. Mounted root on one of them. Here I run into a
>problem...
>The next step is to install the kernel, I select "install from CD" and
after
>being prompted to insert the DEBIAN CD, a message pops up that says "could
>not mount the CD" or something to that effect. What to do? Any way I can
>avoid floppies?
>
>Thanks, in advance, for your help.
>//Artem
>
>
Sounds to me like you burned the wrong CD... I could be wrong though.



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Re: debian install

[Joost van der Lugt]

Artem Litvinovich wrote:
> 
> The mount error message on the console says something about "invalid
> arguement" when trying to mount /dev/cdrom /instmnt -o ro.
> 
> I assume the CD is good if it boots and lets me create/initialize partitians
> and the mount the root. Am I wrong?
> 
> //Artem
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: DvB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:31 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: debian install
> 
> Artem Litvinovich wrote:
> 
> >On installing debian...
> >
> >Since I cant get easy access to any floppies, I burned an image of a debian
> >2.2r2 cd (only the fist cd, for now). I booted from the CD and created the
> >necessary partitians. Mounted root on one of them. Here I run into a
> >problem...
> >The next step is to install the kernel, I select "install from CD" and
> after
> >being prompted to insert the DEBIAN CD, a message pops up that says "could
> >not mount the CD" or something to that effect. What to do? Any way I can
> >avoid floppies?
> >
> >Thanks, in advance, for your help.
> >//Artem
> >
> >
> Sounds to me like you burned the wrong CD... I could be wrong though.

Corrupted image could be a reason, also I've had similar issues for
instance when booting from cdrom2 (hdd), however I seem to recall it
really wants to use cdrom1(hdc) for the next steps, so I received a
similar error. CDRW's (rewritable cd's) can sometimes raise issues too.

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Re: debian install

[francisco m . neto]

> Artem Litvinovich wrote:
> > 
> > The mount error message on the console says something about "invalid
> > arguement" when trying to mount /dev/cdrom /instmnt -o ro.
> > 
> > I assume the CD is good if it boots and lets me create/initialize
> > partitians and the mount the root. Am I wrong?

/dev/cdrom usually is a symlink to /dev/hd?. Check if it is
already there. If not, change to another vc and:

$ ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom

Just in case.

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Re: debian install

[DvB]

That might not be your problem then. The only reason I suggested that is 
because I got a 2 cd debian set from linuxmall, both of which are 
bootable and will do partitions but only one of them (the one labelled 1 
of 2) will work past that stage. The other will fail with a mount error 
but I don't think it said anything about an invalid argument, I believe 
it was just "unable to mount"...


Another possibility is that you chose the wrong device to install from 
(if I remember correctly, it gives you a list including sr0, hda, hdb, 
hdc, etc unless this has changed since I last installed). You need to 
make sure you choose the correct drive. For example, mine is hdc (i.e. 
the first drive on the second ide controller). If you just hit enter for 
this list, I believe the default is /dev/sr0 which is a scsi cdrom.



Artem Litvinovich wrote:


The mount error message on the console says something about "invalid
arguement" when trying to mount /dev/cdrom /instmnt -o ro.

I assume the CD is good if it boots and lets me create/initialize partitians
and the mount the root. Am I wrong?

//Artem

-Original Message-
From: DvB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:31 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: debian install


Artem Litvinovich wrote:



On installing debian...

Since I cant get easy access to any floppies, I burned an image of a debian
2.2r2 cd (only the fist cd, for now). I booted from the CD and created the
necessary partitians. Mounted root on one of them. Here I run into a
problem...
The next step is to install the kernel, I select "install from CD" and


after


being prompted to insert the DEBIAN CD, a message pops up that says "could
not mount the CD" or something to that effect. What to do? Any way I can
avoid floppies?

Thanks, in advance, for your help.
//Artem




Sounds to me like you burned the wrong CD... I could be wrong though.



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RE: debian install

[destruss]

On 25 Apr 2001, at 23:59, Artem Litvinovich wrote:

> The mount error message on the console says something about "invalid
> arguement" when trying to mount /dev/cdrom /instmnt -o ro.
> 
> I assume the CD is good if it boots and lets me create/initialize partitians
> and the mount the root. Am I wrong?
> 
> //Artem

 When I recently reinstalled (I used hard drive) I could not get 
automount to see the partition where my files where located.
I shut down and went right into the install again and automount
suddenly could not only see the partition, but went right to the
files I had been trying to get it to use. Go figure.  HTH   Dean
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: DvB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:31 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: debian install
> 
> 
> Artem Litvinovich wrote:
> 
> >On installing debian...
> >
> >Since I cant get easy access to any floppies, I burned an image of a debian
> >2.2r2 cd (only the fist cd, for now). I booted from the CD and created the
> >necessary partitians. Mounted root on one of them. Here I run into a
> >problem...
> >The next step is to install the kernel, I select "install from CD" and
> after
> >being prompted to insert the DEBIAN CD, a message pops up that says "could
> >not mount the CD" or something to that effect. What to do? Any way I can
> >avoid floppies?
> >
> >Thanks, in advance, for your help.
> >//Artem
> >
> >
> Sounds to me like you burned the wrong CD... I could be wrong though.
> 
> 
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Re: Debian install

[Mathias Brodala]

Hello Ishwar.

> The /usr/include/stdio.h etc are missing, how do I
> install the header files.

Just install „libc6-dev“.


Regards, Mathias



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Re: Debian install

[John Hasler]

Ishwar writes:
> The /usr/include/stdio.h etc are missing, how do I
> install the header files.

Mathias writes:
> Just install libc6-dev.

You'll also want manpages-dev.
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Re: Debian install

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:38:02PM -0400, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> 
> Just installed base debian form 3.1r1 iso cdrom.
> I also installed gcc-3.4 with apt-get install.
> The /usr/include/stdio.h etc are missing, how do I
> install the header files.
> 
Any time you want to know which package contains a particular file, you
can use apt-file (which is itself a separate package you must install)
or you can browse to http://packages.debian.org and enter a filename
(without a leading slash) and select and architecture and distribution
and it will tell you which package (or packages if more than one) has
that file.

Regards,

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Re: Debian Install

[Bruce Burhans]

Eduard *is* trying to help, in his own way, Liam. If I wasn't still
working up the courage to wipe out Big Tit XP and install 2.2r5, I might
be able to help you, but just be patient, and one of the  experts like
MARTIN will lend you a hand.
Actually, according to the Install Manual, the CDs are the preferred
method. See http://www.debian.org , which I cannot believe you have not
already done..

Bruce<+>

Re: Debian Install

[Thiago Zoroastro]

Are you trying to boot with pendrive by USB?
Or a DVD burned? 

Em Quarta-feira, 6 de Abril de 2016 11:57, Ethan Rosenberg 
 escreveu:
 

 Dear List -

I am getting an error message "no boot file name found".

It assumes booting form a server, not an iso image which I am trying to do.

TIA

Ethan



   

Re: Debian Install

[Ethan Rosenberg]

On 04/06/2016 03:41 PM, Thiago Zoroastro wrote:

Are you trying to boot with pendrive by USB?
Or a DVD burned?


Em Quarta-feira, 6 de Abril de 2016 11:57, Ethan Rosenberg 
 escreveu:


Dear List -

I am getting an error message "no boot file name found".

It assumes booting form a server, not an iso image which I am trying to do.

TIA

Ethan




Thiago -

DVD

Ethan

Re: Debian Install

[chrisb]

On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 07:25:25PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> 
> DVD

Set the bios to first try and boot from the DVD.


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Re: Debian Install

[Adam Wilson]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:38:42 -0400
Ethan Rosenberg  wrote:

> Dear List -
> 
> I am getting an error message "no boot file name found".
> 
> It assumes booting form a server, not an iso image which I am trying
> to do.

What media are you trying to boot from? (CD, DVD, USB) Does your
computer have BIOS, UEFI, or UEFI in CSM Legacy Mode? Which ISO image
are you using (netinst, mini.iso, netboot, CD, DVD)? What is your
current boot order setting?


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Re: Debian Install

[Ethan Rosenberg]

On 04/09/2016 05:03 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:38:42 -0400
Ethan Rosenberg  wrote:


Dear List -

I am getting an error message "no boot file name found".

It assumes booting form a server, not an iso image which I am trying
to do.


What media are you trying to boot from? (CD, DVD, USB) Does your
computer have BIOS, UEFI, or UEFI in CSM Legacy Mode? Which ISO image
are you using (netinst, mini.iso, netboot, CD, DVD)? What is your
current boot order setting?



Adam -

Thanks -

 What media are you trying to boot from? (CD, DVD, USB)  DVD
 Does your computer have BIOS, UEFI, or UEFI in CSM Legacy Mode? Please Clarify
 Which ISO image are you using (netinst, mini.iso, netboot, CD, DVD?  
debian-8.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
 What is your current boot order setting? THAT WAS THE ERROR! I had it set to boot from the CD and 
 had the boot CD in the drive.


Boy am I stupid!!

Ethan

Re: Debian install

[Nils Rennebarth]

On Thu, Sep 17, 1998 at 01:51:38PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> LILO supports booting from either of the hard disks connected to the 
> Primary IDE controller
To be precise, booting is a two stage process with respect to LILO.
The first stage loads the boot loader and that can be from anywhere,
the BIOS allows it (usually from the master boot record on the primary
ide/SCSI disk or from a flopppy)

The second stage loads the kernel itself and that may be located in any
place where the BIOS is able to read it.

> During installation of debian,
> the installation program gives only option of installing LILO on the
> installation hard disk. So, if I install to hdb, I need to boot from a
> floppy (Since my BIOS doesn't allow me to boot from hdb), change the
> LILO configuration manually and reinstall LILO. Why can't debian install
> gives me an option of installing LILO onto hda? Is it a bug or am I
> missing something?
There are just too many possibilities for boot setup. You may e.g. want to
boot NT also and won't want to overwrite your master boot record.
What the distribution could do is to offer a choice of a few more rather
common options.

> I hope these irritations will be taken care in both the distributions.
There are plans underway for debian.

Nils

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Re: debian install

[Brian Servis]

*- On 12 Jul, ernie ferran wrote about "debian install"
> What packages do I need to download for a complete system and where do I
> get them?
> 
> 

http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/

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Re: debian install

[Marc Mongeon]

Raymond:

First device on second controller is /dev/hdc.  Can you boot Linux at
this point?  If so, just log in as root and run dselect again.  Make sure
your access method is correct, skip the select phase, and go right to
install.  If you can't boot Linux, you should probably just start the install
from scratch-- sucks, I know, but things always go more smoothly the
second time around :).

Marc

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>>> raymond ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/15 2:19 PM >>>
The last couple days have been going thru a new install with win95 on
the machine. Everything proceeded great...slow paced...and methodical
until I got to dselect. I decided to use a profile(std workstation) but
wanted to look in dselect to check it out. I went to 'access' and
somehow I must have picked multi _ cds because the next screen asked me
to put in a CD and specify /dev/cdrom. This is where I got stuck and
could not go anywhere. I tried dev/hdb1. It recognizes the CD iso9660
just can't mount. I tried mount and other commands I could find under
the cd-rom how to. My CD-ROM is internal, NEC 3001A 17x-40x. During
setup, I used "the first ? on the secondary controller. This seemed to
work fine. I had to do a cntr/alt/del and I was able to get back to
windows. I am using Boot Magic to dual boot. How do I get back to where
I was; installing the packages? so I can finish with my installation. I
tried to cold boot with the custom floppy I made but won't let me in as
root. I know I have to signed in as root to use dselect. I am really
looking forward to getting this part behind me. Thanks for all your
help.Ray Ferrari.


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Re: debian install

[Marc Mongeon]

Raymond:

Here's what I'd try:

1.  Boot with the Custom Boot Floppy.  Try logging in as root with no password
(just hit  at the "password:" prompt).  Then try every reasonable permu-
tation of what you think is your password, keeping in mind that case is import-
ant to Unix.

2.  If (1) doesn't work, boot with the Rescue Floppy.  At the "Boot:" prompt,
type "root=/dev/hda1" (if your root partition is /dev/hda1; do you remember
how you set it up during the first install?).  This should get you to the first 
screen
of the install process.  Now type Alt-F1.  You should be at a terminal screen 
with
a "#" prompt.  Do you remember being prompted during the install whether you
wanted to use shadow passwords?  If you chose to use shadow passwords, now
type "vi /etc/shadow"; otherwise, type "vi /etc/passwd".  What you're doing
here is editing the password file.  You should see a line that looks like this:

root::0:

Delete the stuff between "root:" and ":0" (don't delete the colons, though).  If
you don't know vi, here's a crash course:  use the arrow keys to position the
cursor over the first character after the first colon.  Type "x" until all of 
those letters
have disappeared.  Type ":wq".  When you type ":", a colon appears at the bottom
of the screen; "wq" means "write and quit".  OK, you've deleted the root 
password,
so you should be able to login as root after you re-boot.  Now type "shutdown 
-h now".
Wait for a message that says "System halted".  Put in the Custom Boot Floppy and
re-boot the computer.  Can you login as root with no password now?

I hope all that made sense.

Marc

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>>> raymond ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/15 4:04 PM >>>
Marc: it was in access that I had the problem. Prior to me going into that 
screen, I
had picked std. workstation. Do I have to use Access and pick one listed here. 
This is
where I picked multi_cds.by accident(I was actually using a single cd picked up 
at
Linux World). I cannot boot into Linux with my Boot Magic loader. It starts to 
load
Linux but stops with an underline cursor, and freezes. I have to then shut off 
my
machine. Cntl./alt/del won't work.
Should I be using my Custom Boot Floppy or the Rescue Floppy. I can login as 
user when
I put the Custom Boot Floppy in, but it won't accept root. I wrote down my root
password, so I know I have it right. Is there a way I can check on my password 
for
root, to make sure the second time I inputted the password it took it right? 
thanks
for your help. ray ferrari

Marc Mongeon wrote:

> Raymond:
>
> First device on second controller is /dev/hdc.  Can you boot Linux at
> this point?  If so, just log in as root and run dselect again.  Make sure
> your access method is correct, skip the select phase, and go right to
> install.  If you can't boot Linux, you should probably just start the install
> from scratch-- sucks, I know, but things always go more smoothly the
> second time around :).
>
> Marc
>
> --
> Marc Mongeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Unix Specialist
> Ban-Koe Systems
> 9100 W Bloomington Fwy
> Bloomington, MN 55431-2200
> (612)888-0123, x417 | FAX: (612)888-3344
> --
> "It's such a fine line between clever and stupid."
>-- David St. Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel of "Spinal Tap"
>
> >>> raymond ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/15 2:19 PM >>>
> The last couple days have been going thru a new install with win95 on
> the machine. Everything proceeded great...slow paced...and methodical
> until I got to dselect. I decided to use a profile(std workstation) but
> wanted to look in dselect to check it out. I went to 'access' and
> somehow I must have picked multi _ cds because the next screen asked me
> to put in a CD and specify /dev/cdrom. This is where I got stuck and
> could not go anywhere. I tried dev/hdb1. It recognizes the CD iso9660
> just can't mount. I tried mount and other commands I could find under
> the cd-rom how to. My CD-ROM is internal, NEC 3001A 17x-40x. During
> setup, I used "the first ? on the secondary controller. This seemed to
> work fine. I had to do a cntr/alt/del and I was able to get back to
> windows. I am using Boot Magic to dual boot. How do I get back to where
> I was; installing the packages? so I can finish with my installation. I
> tried to cold boot with the custom floppy I made but won't let me in as
> root. I know I have to signed in as root to use dselect. I am really
> looking forward to getting this part behind me. Thanks for all your
> help.Ray Ferrari.
>
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Re: Debian Install

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 21:17 +0930, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> Greetings..
> 
>   For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well I 
> recently downloaded the new Debian Installer (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso) 
> and used it today to install a new system. I have tried numerous times 
> unsuccessfully to install a system (with working GUI) prior to this time. My 
> install  today went without a hitch and the operations of the installer were 
> much improved than past ones.. I installed a 'unstable' system, which 
> installed kde3.2 and various other up-to-date packages, very easily..
> 
>   For those who always wanted a Debian System, go for it..!! You can get it 
> from Debian Homepage. I too now have a fully function Debian system and very 
> impressed with it.. (and that apt-get tool.. how powerful is that!!)
> 
> WELL DONE to the various maintainers of the Installer..!!

Unbelievable, we have praise and damning all in the same day. I wonder
if the other guy KNEW there was an RC1 out for the installer.

Oh well, good to know that Joey and the rest of the Debian-Installer
team are doing excellent work.
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Re: Debian Install

[Michael Satterwhite]

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On Monday 23 August 2004 06:47, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> Greetings..
>
>   For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well I
> recently downloaded the new Debian Installer (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso)
> and used it today to install a new system. I have tried numerous times
> unsuccessfully to install a system (with working GUI) prior to this time.
> My install  today went without a hitch and the operations of the installer
> were much improved than past ones.. I installed a 'unstable' system, which
> installed kde3.2 and various other up-to-date packages, very easily..

I'm curious as to how you installed "unstable". I thought the only way to do 
that was to install "testing" and do a dist-upgrade.
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Re: Debian Install

[Stef VK5HSX]

On Tuesday 24 August 2004 21:51, Michael Satterwhite shared with us the 
following:
> On Monday 23 August 2004 06:47, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> > Greetings..
> >
> > For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well I
> > recently downloaded the new Debian Installer
> > (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso) and used it today to install a new system.
> > I have tried numerous times unsuccessfully to install a system (with
> > working GUI) prior to this time. My install  today went without a hitch
> > and the operations of the installer were much improved than past ones.. I
> > installed a 'unstable' system, which installed kde3.2 and various other
> > up-to-date packages, very easily..
>
> I'm curious as to how you installed "unstable". I thought the only way to
> do that was to install "testing" and do a dist-upgrade.

WIth the installer, you get option of stable, testing and unstable.. Then 
select the one you want..
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Re: Debian Install

[Michael Satterwhite]

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On Tuesday 24 August 2004 08:27, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 August 2004 21:51, Michael Satterwhite shared with us the
>
> following:
> > On Monday 23 August 2004 06:47, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> > > Greetings..
> > >
> > >   For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well
> > > I recently downloaded the new Debian Installer
> > > (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso) and used it today to install a new
> > > system. I have tried numerous times unsuccessfully to install a system
> > > (with working GUI) prior to this time. My install  today went without a
> > > hitch and the operations of the installer were much improved than past
> > > ones.. I installed a 'unstable' system, which installed kde3.2 and
> > > various other up-to-date packages, very easily..
> >
> > I'm curious as to how you installed "unstable". I thought the only way to
> > do that was to install "testing" and do a dist-upgrade.
>
> WIth the installer, you get option of stable, testing and unstable.. Then
> select the one you want..

I think it's changed since you ran it (or since I did). I just installed Sarge 
on a laptop (last Friday, Debian Installer RC1). There were no options 
presented as to version of Debian.
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Re: Debian Install

[Paul E Condon]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:09:57AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
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> On Tuesday 24 August 2004 08:27, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 August 2004 21:51, Michael Satterwhite shared with us the
> >
> > following:
> > > On Monday 23 August 2004 06:47, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> > > > Greetings..
> > > >
> > > > For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well
> > > > I recently downloaded the new Debian Installer
> > > > (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso) and used it today to install a new
> > > > system. I have tried numerous times unsuccessfully to install a system
> > > > (with working GUI) prior to this time. My install  today went without a
> > > > hitch and the operations of the installer were much improved than past
> > > > ones.. I installed a 'unstable' system, which installed kde3.2 and
> > > > various other up-to-date packages, very easily..
> > >
> > > I'm curious as to how you installed "unstable". I thought the only way to
> > > do that was to install "testing" and do a dist-upgrade.
> >
> > WIth the installer, you get option of stable, testing and unstable.. Then
> > select the one you want..
> 
> I think it's changed since you ran it (or since I did). I just installed Sarge 
> on a laptop (last Friday, Debian Installer RC1). There were no options 
> presented as to version of Debian.

On the very first screen that you see when you boot from the install CD,
there is a message that something like:
F1 for help, Return for Install:
If you choose F1, you are told about a bunch of Fkeys. F3 gives a lot of
"advanced" options. If you know about it, you can go directly to it without
going first to F1. If you ignore the F1 on the first screen, you miss a lot of
the power-user features in the new installer.

HTH


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Re: Debian install Question

[IL Ka]

Hello.
Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso"
from here:
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/



On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:48 PM M.R.P. zensky 
wrote:

> Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the
> net with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I
> think I need the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a
> mirror site but Here I am confused about what iso file I want. I am also
> assuming that I need an image for cd-rom. Any help would be apreciated.
>

Re: Debian install Question

[David Christensen]

On 2021-02-24 09:47, M.R.P. zensky wrote:

Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the net 
with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I think I need 
the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a mirror site but 
Here I am confused about what iso file I want. I am also assuming that I need 
an image for cd-rom. Any help would be apreciated.



I suggest that you try an "unofficial" installer that includes non-free 
firmware:


https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/


David

Re: Debian install Question

[Henning Follmann]

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 08:49:32PM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> Hello.
> Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso"
> from here:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
> 
>

Please do not do that.


You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/

Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.


-H




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Re: Debian install Question

[IL Ka]

>
> Please do not do that.
>
>
> You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
>
> Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.
>

I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
Debian.
My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.

This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.

So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
contains non-free firmware?
If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation guide
somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.
It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian on
their laptops.

Re: Debian install Question

[Brian]

On Thu 25 Feb 2021 at 01:36:58 +0300, IL Ka wrote:

> >
> > Please do not do that.
> >
> >
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> >
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.
> >
> 
> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
> Debian.
> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.

That was what I thought your intention was and I do not think it is
such bad idea, unless the user knows that she does not want Gnome.
 
> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.
> 
> So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
> contains non-free firmware?

If the widest installation framework is required, that is probably best.

> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation guide
> somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.
> It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian on
> their laptops.

I've not looked at the wiki.

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Re: Debian install Question

[Dan Ritter]

IL Ka wrote: 
> 
> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
> Debian.
> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
> 
> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.
> 
> So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
> contains non-free firmware?
> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation guide
> somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.
> It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian on
> their laptops.


Yes.

It's in the wiki, but it isn't at the front.

Most people with laptops are going to need it, or a similar
workaround.

Here's some recent discussion: https://lwn.net/Articles/843172/

-dsr-

Re: Debian install Question

[Weaver]

On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
> IL Ka wrote: 
>>
>> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
>> Debian.
>> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.

This is quite possible.

>> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
>> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.
>>
>> So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
>> contains non-free firmware?

That's actually not required.
For a little while now, I've had a 2016 Acer TravelMate.
This requires three different blobs of non-free software to operate
efficiently.
As long as you opt for the nonfree and contrib lines to be included in
your sources.list file during installation, they're there when the
install process is over.
As soon as the netinst disc is spat out and reboot happens, there
appears to be a period when I can install aptitude, mc, menu, and a
couple of other niceties.
I then call up aptitude interface and go through the kernel nonfree
sector for the blobs I require, clearly delineated during the install
process.
Intel's iwlwifi being one of the packages required for this machine.

>> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation guide
>> somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.

Definitely!

>> It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian on
>> their laptops.

It's how I learnt to deal with it, two or three installs later.
Cheers!

Harry.

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 because of those who look on without doing anything'.
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Re: Debian install Question

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > IL Ka wrote: 
> >>
> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
> >> Debian.
> >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
> 
> This is quite possible.
> 
> >> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
> >> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.
> >>
> >> So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
> >> contains non-free firmware?
> 
> That's actually not required.
> For a little while now, I've had a 2016 Acer TravelMate.
> This requires three different blobs of non-free software to operate
> efficiently.
> As long as you opt for the nonfree and contrib lines to be included in
> your sources.list file during installation, they're there when the
> install process is over.
> As soon as the netinst disc is spat out and reboot happens, there
> appears to be a period when I can install aptitude, mc, menu, and a
> couple of other niceties.
> I then call up aptitude interface and go through the kernel nonfree
> sector for the blobs I require, clearly delineated during the install
> process.
> Intel's iwlwifi being one of the packages required for this machine.

How do you get the wifi to connect, in order to fetch the firmware,
without the firmware that the wifi needs to connect?

> >> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation guide
> >> somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.
> 
> Definitely!
> 
> >> It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian on
> >> their laptops.
> 
> It's how I learnt to deal with it, two or three installs later.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Debian install Question

[Weaver]

On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
>> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> > IL Ka wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
>> >> Debian.
>> >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
>>
>> This is quite possible.
>>
>> >> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
>> >> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.
>> >>
>> >> So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
>> >> contains non-free firmware?
>>
>> That's actually not required.
>> For a little while now, I've had a 2016 Acer TravelMate.
>> This requires three different blobs of non-free software to operate
>> efficiently.
>> As long as you opt for the nonfree and contrib lines to be included in
>> your sources.list file during installation, they're there when the
>> install process is over.
>> As soon as the netinst disc is spat out and reboot happens, there
>> appears to be a period when I can install aptitude, mc, menu, and a
>> couple of other niceties.
>> I then call up aptitude interface and go through the kernel nonfree
>> sector for the blobs I require, clearly delineated during the install
>> process.
>> Intel's iwlwifi being one of the packages required for this machine.
> 
> How do you get the wifi to connect, in order to fetch the firmware,
> without the firmware that the wifi needs to connect?

The netinst connection seems to remain `live' for a short period of time
before you are isolated.
I would have thought the reboot would have cut me off, but that's not
the case.
Perhaps it's a feature the developers don't know about, but it has 
worked for me on at least three occasions, now.

>> >> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation 
>> >> guide
>> >> somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.
>>
>> Definitely!
>>
>> >> It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian 
>> >> on
>> >> their laptops.
>>
>> It's how I learnt to deal with it, two or three installs later.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

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Re: Debian install Question

[David Christensen]

On 2021-02-24 14:36, IL Ka wrote:


I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
Debian.
My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.

This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.

So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
contains non-free firmware?
If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation guide
somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.
It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian on
their laptops.



https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/out+of+the+mouths+of+babes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_in_the_room


I agree that the "Download" button on the Debian home page links to an 
ISO image that is inadequate for installing Debian onto computers 
without an Ethernet interface (e.g. many laptop/ notebook/ netbook 
computers).



A deeper "gotcha" is that building a multi-boot computer with Windows, 
Chrome, Linux, BSD, etc., is a non-trivial feat, especially when it 
involves UEFI, Secure Boot, GPT, and proprietary firmware/ drivers.  I 
avoid these complexities by installing each OS instance onto a dedicated 
storage device (I prefer 2.5" SATA SSD's).



AIUI the Debian project has prioritized "freedom" over everything else. 
But, by not providing sufficient information for users to make an 
informed choice, they are damaging "freedom of choice", frustrating new 
users, and wasting resources on conversations like this (over and over 
and over...).



David

Re: Debian install Question

[deloptes]

IL Ka wrote:

> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation
> guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to
> newbies.

newbies use ubuntu :)

Re: Debian install Question

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

David Wright wrote:
> > Take care: this stick will have very strange partitioning.

I am preaching against this partition table layout since years.


deloptes wrote:
> newbies use ubuntu :)

... which eventually switched to a neater layout in the 20.10 ISOs with
only one partition table hack left (to please old HP laptops without
alienating new Lenovos).


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Debian install Question

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 25 February 2021 02:23:22 deloptes wrote:

> IL Ka wrote:
> > If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian
> > installation guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to
> > this wiki to newbies.
>
> newbies use ubuntu :)

Yeah, but it doesn't take long to get over that.

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Re: Debian install Question

[tomas]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> >
> > Please do not do that.
> >
> >
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> >
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.
> >
> 
> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
> Debian.

No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step
onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes

 (a) Debian should be a free distribution. If you're holding a
   Debian "CD" [1] on your hands, you should be safe trusting
   that all the stuff in there is free to use, study, modify
   and give to others

 (b) Debian should be welcoming to newbies, it should be easy
   to install

This is a point of conflict, and won't be solved as long as there
are hardware companies out there saying "my firmware is MINE and
you are not allowed to redistribute it" while at the same time
spreading this oh-too-valuable-stuff all over the Internets.

Back to Debian. The solution is to create some "enhanced" distributions
to cater for (b), but they cannot be Debian because of (a) and are
clearly marked as such. Rightly so.

Of course there are very opinionated people who say "scratch (a). Who
cares about freedom? It's all about convenience/market share/whatever".

Likewise you'll find opinionated people at the other end of the
spectrum.

Back to you. You offered your help. Thanks for that. That's what
this list thrives on. Again: *thank you*.

And yes: I found Henning's dry "Please do not do that" quite a
bit too harsh. Let's blame it on mail as a limited communication
medium. Don't let that discourage you.

Cheers

[1] Remember those times with CDs and things?

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Re: Debian install Question

[Henning Follmann]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> >
> > Please do not do that.
> >
> >
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> >
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.
> >
> 
> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to
> Debian.
> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
>
I did not mean this as a critizism directly against you.
But the OP asked for the installer WITH the non-free firmware specifically.


> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that
> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.
> 
> So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
> contains non-free firmware?
> If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation guide
> somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to newbies.
> It seems that a lot of people face this problem trying to install Debian on
> their laptops.

And it will continue to be a source of confusion with debian. However
there is excellent documentation (wiki and installation manual) for debian.
Unfortunately it seems reading documentation is a burden nobody can be
bothered with.


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Re: Debian install Question

[Anssi Saari]

Henning Follmann  writes:

> You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
>
> Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.

I have to ask since I'm on a similar boat. What is this image? Debian
10.8 installer with non-free firmware? It's only a guess, Debian's
latest release is 10.8 but there's usually no third digit in the
version.

But what if someone needs a newer kernel than 4.19 too? My chosen HW
needs kernel 5.1 for wifi and 5.9 for ethernet plus FW from Intel and
Realtek. And no, I don't want to install testing or unstable. Or Ubuntu.

I figured I'll install from a USB stick and I have the debs from
buster-backports for a 5.10 kernel and firmware and hope I can install
those from a USB stick too.

Re: Debian install Question

[Greg Wooledge]

Anssi Saari (a...@sci.fi) wrote:

> Henning Follmann  writes:
> 
> > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here:
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
> >
> > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site.
> 
> I have to ask since I'm on a similar boat. What is this image? Debian
> 10.8 installer with non-free firmware? It's only a guess, Debian's
> latest release is 10.8 but there's usually no third digit in the
> version.

The installer images have a third version component, because sometimes
they make multiple builds after a given Debian point-release.  E.g. if
there's a problem with the first CD build after Debian 10.8 (installer
version 10.8.0) they might release installer version 10.8.1.

A newer installer version will only have changes to the installer, not
to the packages that end up installed on the Debian system when you're
all done.

Re: Debian install Question

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 21:05:00 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
> On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
> >> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote:
> >> > IL Ka wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new 
> >> >> to
> >> >> Debian.
> >> >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware.
> >>
> >> This is quite possible.
> >>
> >> >> This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic 
> >> >> that
> >> >> needs non-free firmware" I see in this list on this week.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, what is the best practice to do so? Use an unofficial installer that
> >> >> contains non-free firmware?
> >>
> >> That's actually not required.
> >> For a little while now, I've had a 2016 Acer TravelMate.
> >> This requires three different blobs of non-free software to operate
> >> efficiently.
> >> As long as you opt for the nonfree and contrib lines to be included in
> >> your sources.list file during installation, they're there when the
> >> install process is over.
> >> As soon as the netinst disc is spat out and reboot happens, there
> >> appears to be a period when I can install aptitude, mc, menu, and a
> >> couple of other niceties.
> >> I then call up aptitude interface and go through the kernel nonfree
> >> sector for the blobs I require, clearly delineated during the install
> >> process.
> >> Intel's iwlwifi being one of the packages required for this machine.
> > 
> > How do you get the wifi to connect, in order to fetch the firmware,
> > without the firmware that the wifi needs to connect?
> 
> The netinst connection seems to remain `live' for a short period of time
> before you are isolated.
> I would have thought the reboot would have cut me off, but that's not
> the case.
> Perhaps it's a feature the developers don't know about, but it has 
> worked for me on at least three occasions, now.

You'd have to elaborate: I don't know what you mean by the "netinst
connection" (which is what we need the firmware for) or which reboot
(one boots the machine before starting the debian-installer, and
reboots it after all the software and firmware has been installed).

Cheers,
David.

Re: Debian install Question

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step
> onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes
> 
>  (a) Debian should be a free distribution. If you're holding a
>Debian "CD" [1] on your hands, you should be safe trusting
>that all the stuff in there is free to use, study, modify
>and give to others
> 
>  (b) Debian should be welcoming to newbies, it should be easy
>to install
> 
> This is a point of conflict, and won't be solved as long as there
> are hardware companies out there saying "my firmware is MINE and
> you are not allowed to redistribute it" while at the same time
> spreading this oh-too-valuable-stuff all over the Internets.

It's more complicated than this. Debian is allowed distribute the 
firmware (otherwise it wouldn't be included in non-free or in the 
image), but the firmware doesn't satisfy one or more of the requirements 
in the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)[1].

Apparently some firmwares even would satisfy the DFSG (in theory), but 
the hardware accepts only firmware signed by the manufacturer, so Debian 
can't rebuild it from source.

I'd say this is still progress (compared to not having the source at 
all).

[1] https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Debian install Question

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 25 feb 21, 18:30:55, Anssi Saari wrote:
> 
> But what if someone needs a newer kernel than 4.19 too? My chosen HW
> needs kernel 5.1 for wifi and 5.9 for ethernet plus FW from Intel and
> Realtek. And no, I don't want to install testing or unstable. Or Ubuntu.
> 
> I figured I'll install from a USB stick and I have the debs from
> buster-backports for a 5.10 kernel and firmware and hope I can install
> those from a USB stick too.
 
Try installing in expert mode (if the image boots), as far as I recall 
there was an option to enable and use backports.

Hope this helps,
Andrei
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Re: Debian install Question

[Anssi Saari]

Andrei POPESCU  writes:

> Try installing in expert mode (if the image boots), as far as I recall 
> there was an option to enable and use backports.

Thanks. Well, the referenced LWN discussion mentioned tethering and
indeed, plugging in my phone and enabling USB tethering resulted in a
detected network connection.

Re: Debian Install problems

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:48:26PM -0700, Buzz wrote:
> I'm having some issues installing etch on a laptop running amd 64 x2.
> I used the i386 release 1st DVD iso.  The last time I touched linux
> was like 8 years ago.

Why did you choose i386 over amd64?  If all else fails, you may want to
try it.  If there are specific 32-bit apps you need, amd64 has the
32-bit libs available to run _most_ natively, otherwise you can run a
chroot.

> 
> I set up a couple partitions in vista (I realize this is not the best
> way to do it) to be used for the filesystem and swap area for a dual
> boot.  I manually configured the partitions using the installer, but I
> got an message while the installer was installing the packages about
> how the swap space was not active.
> 

I don't know anything about sharing swap with vista since I haven't run
'doze since 3.1.

> On first boot, the GUI appeared to come up as a greyish background,
> but the grey graphic was changing to a charcoal color, with no
> progress.

I've never run the GUI installer.  The installation manual says that the
graphic installer isn't as full-featured as the newt(text) installer but
I don't know if the difference applies to you.  YMMV.

> 
> When I try to boot into single user, it locks up.  Here is the last
> line:
> 
> Checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs.
> CPU#0 had -543 usecs TSC skew, fixed it up.
> CPU#0 had 543 usecs TSC skew, fixed it up.
> 
I've never had 2 cpus to play with :) so I don't know.

> ...so I booted from a rescue CD and checked the partition table for /
> dev/sda.  Here is a summary of each device:
> 
> sda1 is the largest partition with the boot sector and vista, NTFS,
> ~95GB
> sda2 appears to be a hidden windows recovery partition, ~2GB
> sda3 is the linux filesystem which is supposed to mount at /  when
> booted, 10GB
> sda4 is another windows partition for recovery ~6GB
> sda5 is the swap partition "Linux Swap/Solaris" at 2GB
> 
> I tried mkswap /dev/sda5 followed by swapon /dev/sda5 to no avail.

What where the specific errors?

> 

> So, I guess I'm feeling pretty clueless here.
> 

What did fsck on the linux partitions show?

> FWIW, I was able to install using the same DVD image on an older
> laptop (only linux--no dual boot) with no problems.

You may want to remove the linux partitions from vista and leave them as
free space on the drive.  Then use the installer to create them.  Also,
disk space is cheap, don't share swap.

You may consider getting the amd64 netinst.iso and try that.

Good luck,

Doug.


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Re: Debian Install problems

[Greg Folkert]

On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 22:48 -0700, Buzz wrote:
[snip]
> ...so I booted from a rescue CD and checked the partition table for /
> dev/sda.  Here is a summary of each device:
> 
> sda1 is the largest partition with the boot sector and vista, NTFS,
> ~95GB
> sda2 appears to be a hidden windows recovery partition, ~2GB
> sda3 is the linux filesystem which is supposed to mount at /  when
> booted, 10GB
> sda4 is another windows partition for recovery ~6GB
> sda5 is the swap partition "Linux Swap/Solaris" at 2GB
> 
> I tried mkswap /dev/sda5 followed by swapon /dev/sda5 to no avail.
> 
> So, I guess I'm feeling pretty clueless here.

I have to tell you, that there can only be 4 PRIMARY or EXTENDED
partitions on a single disk. If you want more, you have to have a
secondary partitions that are encompassed in an extended partition.
Usually you only have one extended partition.

I'd use them this way for a reason:

Partition 1 (or sda1 for you) Windows
Partition 2 (or sda2 for you) 
Partition 3 (or sda3 for you) 
Partition 4 (or sda4 for you) secondary/extended
Partition 5 (inside sda4)
Partition 6 (inside sda4 again)
Partition 7 (inside sda4 again)
Partition 8 (inside sda4 again)
Partition 9 (inside sda4 again)

If Vista created those partitions rather than the Installer, I'd be
suspicious. If I were you, I'd let the installer delete the partitions
you made in Vista for Linux and then let it do the auto-magical splits
for you.

Then if you want let it write the MBR. Unless you want Vista to control
the booting, then you will have to write the boot record to the "/"
partition and let Vista "boot" the Linux bootable record... by adding a
boot entry to the "boot.ini" (unless that was removed)

> FWIW, I was able to install using the same DVD image on an older
> laptop (only linux--no dual boot) with no problems.

That's cool. Just remember Vista assumes it is the ONLY OS on the
machine. This is both bad and good.
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Re: Debian Install problems

[Buzz]

On May 1, 8:00 am, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:48:26PM -0700, Buzz wrote:
> > I'm having some issues installing etch on a laptop running amd 64 x2.
> > I used the i386 release 1st DVD iso.  The last time I touched linux
> > was like 8 years ago.
>
> Why did you choose i386 over amd64?  If all else fails, you may want to
> try it.  If there are specific 32-bit apps you need, amd64 has the
> 32-bit libs available to run _most_ natively, otherwise you can run a
> chroot.

Yeah, to be honest, I already had the i386 image, and was too lazy to
wait for the amd64 image to download.  I actually have that one now,
so I will probably burn & reinstall.

> > On first boot, the GUI appeared to come up as a greyish background,
> > but the grey graphic was changing to a charcoal color, with no
> > progress.
>
> I've never run the GUI installer.  The installation manual says that the
> graphic installer isn't as full-featured as the newt(text) installer but
> I don't know if the difference applies to you.  YMMV.

Sorry--I should clarify.  I ran the non-graphical installer, but when
my first boot *after* install into the GUI was problematic.

> > ...so I booted from a rescue CD and checked the partition table for /
> > dev/sda.  Here is a summary of each device:
>
> > sda1 is the largest partition with the boot sector and vista, NTFS,
> > ~95GB
> > sda2 appears to be a hidden windows recovery partition, ~2GB
> > sda3 is the linux filesystem which is supposed to mount at /  when
> > booted, 10GB
> > sda4 is another windows partition for recovery ~6GB
> > sda5 is the swap partition "Linux Swap/Solaris" at 2GB
>
> > I tried mkswap /dev/sda5 followed by swapon /dev/sda5 to no avail.
>
> What where the specific errors?

Actually there were no errors when entering these commands.  The 'no
avail' refers to the GUI not coming up upon reboot.  I was estimating
that there was an issue having to do with how my swap space was
partitioned.

> > So, I guess I'm feeling pretty clueless here.
>
> What did fsck on the linux partitions show?

will get back to you on this result...

> > FWIW, I was able to install using the same DVD image on an older
> > laptop (only linux--no dual boot) with no problems.
>
> You may want to remove the linux partitions from vista and leave them as
> free space on the drive.  Then use the installer to create them.  Also,
> disk space is cheap, don't share swap.

I'm still a bit noobish on partitions I guess.  I read Greg's message
and I guess I am working off logical partitions of an extended windows
partition?  When I got to the partitioning point of the installer, it
appeared that running through the automatic method was going to wipe
the entire drive and including my other OS (vista) and repartition for
the linux system.  I thought I had to come in with ready-made
partitions for the dual boot (hence making them in vista).  Am I
incorrect here?  I guess I can revisit this when I run the amd64
image.

> Good luck,
>
> Doug.

Thanks!
Buzz


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Re: Debian Install Problem

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, I'm new to the list. I'm trying to install Debian on an i386 machine, and 
I've gotten it working, but now when I try to reinstall after I had some 
problems, it keeps telling me there was a problem installing the base system, 
that, or the installer refuses to let me configure the base system-- just 
install it again.


Any ideas? ..
-- Deven



My guess is that you're installing via floppies; this is a common error 
with floppies. Reimage the affected floppy on a different floppy (I once 
had to go through four floppies before getting a good image). Floppies 
used during the base install have to be FLAWLESS. Even floppies that 
seem to be perfectly good for other uses may fail.


If you're not installing from floppies, let us know more details.

Kent

Re: Debian Install Problem

[JakeCatfox]

I'm installing from a Debian CD-ROM I got from ISO Image 1 [ver. 2.2r3]. I 
partition my hard disk, install the OS and Modules, then the drivers, and 
usually that goes fine [drivers sometimes fails], and then I choose to 
install the base system, and 4 years later [not really] it tells me that 
there was a problem installing the base system, and I see snipets of errors 
on the sides of the screen: "ut error", etc. If this doesn't happen, it just 
goes right back to the installation screen, with "Install the Base System" as 
my default option. If I try to go to Configure the Base System I get an error 
saying that I need to install it first. Every time I install the Base System 
it asks me if I want to overwrite the base system already written on the 
disk, so I know it was successful. I checked the surface of the disc numerous 
times, and it's just fine-- no scratches, fingerprints, etc. I even cleaned 
it, but it still does this.

Thanks,
-- Deven "WTF is wrong with this installer" Gallo



In a message dated 7/27/01 11:24:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< My guess is that you're installing via floppies; this is a common error 
 with floppies. Reimage the affected floppy on a different floppy (I once 
 had to go through four floppies before getting a good image). Floppies 
 used during the base install have to be FLAWLESS. Even floppies that 
 seem to be perfectly good for other uses may fail.
 
 If you're not installing from floppies, let us know more details.
 
 Kent >>

Re: Debian Install Problem

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 04:28:17PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm installing from a Debian CD-ROM I got from ISO Image 1 [ver. 2.2r3]. I 
> partition my hard disk, install the OS and Modules, then the drivers, and 
> usually that goes fine [drivers sometimes fails], and then I choose to 
> install the base system, and 4 years later [not really] it tells me that 
> there was a problem installing the base system, and I see snipets of errors 
> on the sides of the screen: "ut error", etc. If this doesn't happen, it just 
> goes right back to the installation screen, with "Install the Base System" as 
> my default option. If I try to go to Configure the Base System I get an error 
> saying that I need to install it first. Every time I install the Base System 
> it asks me if I want to overwrite the base system already written on the 
> disk, so I know it was successful. I checked the surface of the disc numerous 
> times, and it's just fine-- no scratches, fingerprints, etc. I even cleaned 
> it, but it still does this.

Sometimes the disk is bad, but you can't see it on the surface.

What are the actual error messages?  Press leftalt-f4 to see the installer
error messages (it may also be f3, I forget so try all of them and see what
you get).  Leftalt-f1 will get you back to the installer menu.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: Debian Install Problem

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm installing from a Debian CD-ROM I got from ISO Image 1 [ver. 2.2r3]. I 
partition my hard disk, install the OS and Modules, then the drivers, and 
usually that goes fine [drivers sometimes fails], and then I choose to 
install the base system, and 4 years later [not really] it tells me that 
there was a problem installing the base system, and I see snipets of errors 
on the sides of the screen: "ut error", etc. If this doesn't happen, it just 
goes right back to the installation screen, with "Install the Base System" as 
my default option. If I try to go to Configure the Base System I get an error 
saying that I need to install it first. Every time I install the Base System 
it asks me if I want to overwrite the base system already written on the 
disk, so I know it was successful. I checked the surface of the disc numerous 
times, and it's just fine-- no scratches, fingerprints, etc. I even cleaned 
it, but it still does this.


Thanks,
-- Deven "WTF is wrong with this installer" Gallo




Sounds like a hardware problem:

In order, I'd suspect:
CD-ROM disk
CD-ROM drive/controller
Hard drive
RAM

Of course it could be some sort of incompatibility with your hardware, 
like if you've got some sort of barely-standard motherboard or 
something. Perhaps others will have other ideas.


If you've got the drive space, you might try copying the CD's base files 
(I'm not sure what they'd be on a CD; they'd roughly correspond to 
root.bin, rescue.bin, base-image.tar.gz (or whatever that file is, which 
is the grouped-together version of individual floppy images, such as 
base1-1440.bin, base2-1440.bin, etc - again, I may not have the exact 
names) to a FAT16/32 (MS-DOS) partition on your hard drive, then during 
the install, select to install from the hard drive instead of from the 
CD-ROM drive. This two-step process should eliminate CD-ROM and hard 
drive issues.






In a message dated 7/27/01 11:24:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


<< My guess is that you're installing via floppies; this is a common error 
 with floppies. Reimage the affected floppy on a different floppy (I once 
 had to go through four floppies before getting a good image). Floppies 
 used during the base install have to be FLAWLESS. Even floppies that 
 seem to be perfectly good for other uses may fail.
 
 If you're not installing from floppies, let us know more details.
 
 Kent >>

Re: Debian install issues!

[Joost Kooij]

(please press enter after +/-70 characters.)

On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 08:33:49PM -0700, Brad Pillatsch wrote:
> Here's the problem I am having.  This occurs on all the flavors of
> the latest stable release root disks.  Basically when the root disk
> loads up into the install menus, specifically the first release notes
> window and the driver setup window, if I scroll down with the keyboard
> the system will show a black line in the middle of the window and then
> *hang* the system up to dry.  I booted off floppies, I booted off a FAT32
> disk with loadlin, and even ran memtest82 to see if I had memory probs.
> I bumped my clock back down to spec(celeron 300a) none of which seems
> to be working.  I have installed debian in the past so I am assuming
> its an issue with the latest release.

That is strange.  Is it completely hung up in the kernel or is the
installer deadlocked?  Can you still switch consoles with leftalt-f1,
-f2, etc.?

Cheers,


Joost

Re: Debian install issues!

[Brad Pillatsch]

Its a full hang, kernel and all. :(
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Debian install issues!


> (please press enter after +/-70 characters.)
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 08:33:49PM -0700, Brad Pillatsch wrote:
> > Here's the problem I am having.  This occurs on all the flavors of
> > the latest stable release root disks.  Basically when the root disk
> > loads up into the install menus, specifically the first release notes
> > window and the driver setup window, if I scroll down with the keyboard
> > the system will show a black line in the middle of the window and then
> > *hang* the system up to dry.  I booted off floppies, I booted off a
FAT32
> > disk with loadlin, and even ran memtest82 to see if I had memory probs.
> > I bumped my clock back down to spec(celeron 300a) none of which seems
> > to be working.  I have installed debian in the past so I am assuming
> > its an issue with the latest release.
>
> That is strange.  Is it completely hung up in the kernel or is the
> installer deadlocked?  Can you still switch consoles with leftalt-f1,
> -f2, etc.?
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Joost
>
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Re: Debian install 6.05

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 17 iul 12, 16:31:05, Frank wrote:
> Sorry if this is in the wrong place! It's even hard to find the
> right place.

debian-user would be a good option, this list is for working on Debian 
documentation. Please follow-up there (Reply-To set accordingly).

> I downloaded Debian (first time, experienced Windows user,
> experienced user).

Which iso? (exact URL please)

> Got to the 'language selection' and ... no keyboard input. Well it's
> a USB, so I'll just try a legacy (read "OLD!") keyboard.

Before doing that you might press Ctrl-Alt-F2 and see if your keyboard 
works there.

> Whoops, my spare box is so advanced, it doesn't have a PS2 anymore.
> 
> No problem..., I'll enable legacy in my Dell GX620.
> 
> Whoops, that won't work of course. There's no PS2 PORT dummy - only
> USB!
> 
> So.. I'll try the 'graphical install option'. That must surely work.
> But then there's the 'language screen again'. Argghhh
> 
> My thought at that point (not criticism, because I'm all FOR free
> and open software) was: "is this Debian in 2012!"
> 
> The same Debian I tried and flagged away many years ago for many
> other reasons?
> 
> I've now installed MINT, so I can try Kexi - my final goal.
> 
> I Linux on
> 
> Maybe I'll have success at some point in this new century :-)
> 
> Frank Fontein
> Christchurch
> New Zealand

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[Chris Henry]

Hi,

> nowhere for example does the section tell exactly how to enter
> the boot parameter (cheart code) which tells the installer where to find the
> preseeding file.

The boot parameter is the first question the installer asks when you
boot from the installer of your choice. To install KDE for example,
you should type:

install tasks="standard, kde-desktop"

It is in the Release Notes of etch under heading of Desktop selection
(http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-installing.en.html).
It might be a good idea to read the whole thing. d: The release notes
can be extremely useful.

Regards,
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Re: Debian Install help

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On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 06:38:28PM -0400, Ed Doyle wrote:
> below is ifconfig and route
> 
> Ed
> 
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:78:1E:66:90
>   inet addr:192.168.1.105  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:10659 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:3444 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:764084 (746.1 KiB)  TX bytes:146896 (143.4 KiB)
>   Interrupt:10 Base address:0x6200
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:1224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:1224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>   RX bytes:225163 (219.8 KiB)  TX bytes:225163 (219.8 KiB)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] floppy]# cat test2
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
> default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0
> 
> 

Well, that all looks good (assuming that your gateway is actually
192.168.1.1). Is that the gateway all the machines on the lan use? 

I don't know what else to suggest except perhaps, as was said by
someone else, skip the configuration of apt and come back to it later
after a reboot. Then you can likely fix-up networking (I bet it just
works...) and carry on. 

sorry, I've got nothing else


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[Ed]

Interesting.  From the affected machine, I can NOT ping 192.168.1.1 but 
from affected machine, I CAN ping other machines on my local lan.  I can 
not ping anything on the internet from the affected machine, but can from 
any other machine on my home lan.  The output of 'route' looks 
essentially the same on the affected machine as it does on working 
machines. So, I think it is definietely some kind of problem with my 
router/old machine. (This old machine 'used' to work with win95 and also 
redhad 7.0 through the same router and dsl modem and same network card 
years ago.)


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On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 02:39:20PM -, Ed wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting.  From the affected machine, I can NOT ping 192.168.1.1 but 
> from affected machine, I CAN ping other machines on my local lan.  I can 

can your *other* machines ping to 192.168.1.1? 

I think maybe you've got some architecture issues in your network. Maybe you
are somehow misusing an uplink port on a switch or something like
that? 

> not ping anything on the internet from the affected machine, but can from 
> any other machine on my home lan.  The output of 'route' looks 
> essentially the same on the affected machine as it does on working 

essentially the same means different, so how about providing us a
working and non working route?

> machines. So, I think it is definietely some kind of problem with my 
> router/old machine. (This old machine 'used' to work with win95 and also 
> redhad 7.0 through the same router and dsl modem and same network card 
> years ago.)

what are you using for a router? maybe you've somehow cnofigured a
firewall such that this machine is not allowed out? Is your whole
lan on dhcp? if so, are any of the "statically" defined? is your
router/firewall limiting which parts of the address range are allowed
out? do you have separate dhcp ranges with different rules? 
can you try giving the install machine a fixed ip for the install
process? can you plug the machine directly into the router just for
the install and if so does that help? (that would have the effect of
removing all other variables and help pinpoint the error). Maybe
you've got a borked dhcp system and its assigning the same address to
multiple machines? etc etc etc

there are many possible causes or work around for this
issue. Hopefully, I've spurred you to find something


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Re: Debian Install help

[Jude DaShiell]

You could have a bad cable running from the affected computer to the 
router.  Why not try a cable swap and find out if you can take another of 
your machines down?





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[Ed]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:00:17 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 02:39:20PM -, Ed wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting.  From the affected machine, I can NOT ping 192.168.1.1 but
>> from affected machine, I CAN ping other machines on my local lan.  I
>> can
> 
> can your *other* machines ping to 192.168.1.1?
> 
> I think maybe you've got some architecture issues in your network. Maybe
> you are somehow misusing an uplink port on a switch or something like
> that?
> 
>> not ping anything on the internet from the affected machine, but can
>> from any other machine on my home lan.  The output of 'route' looks
>> essentially the same on the affected machine as it does on working
> 
> essentially the same means different, so how about providing us a
> working and non working route?
> 
>> machines. So, I think it is definietely some kind of problem with my
>> router/old machine. (This old machine 'used' to work with win95 and
>> also redhad 7.0 through the same router and dsl modem and same network
>> card years ago.)
> 
> what are you using for a router? maybe you've somehow cnofigured a
> firewall such that this machine is not allowed out? Is your whole lan on
> dhcp? if so, are any of the "statically" defined? is your
> router/firewall limiting which parts of the address range are allowed
> out? do you have separate dhcp ranges with different rules? can you try
> giving the install machine a fixed ip for the install process? can you
> plug the machine directly into the router just for the install and if so
> does that help? (that would have the effect of removing all other
> variables and help pinpoint the error). Maybe you've got a borked dhcp
> system and its assigning the same address to multiple machines? etc etc
> etc
> 
> there are many possible causes or work around for this issue. Hopefully,
> I've spurred you to find something
> 
> 
> A

Hi Andrew,
You ask great questions - THANKS
Here are some answers.

On the machine that does NOT reach the Internet, here is the output from 
route command.
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
eth0
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
eth0

Here is the output from ifconfig command.

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:78:1E:66:90  
  inet addr:192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:10462 (10.2 KiB)  TX bytes:5752 (5.6 KiB)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0x6200 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)  TX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)

On a machine that DOES work, here is the output from route command.

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
eth0
169.254.0.0 *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 
eth0
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
eth0

And on machine that DOES work, here is output from ifcongig

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:18:24:89:1A  
  inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:18ff:fe24:891a/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1158648 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:729749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:1555494197 (1.4 GiB)  TX bytes:69461364 (66.2 MiB)
  Interrupt:5 Base address:0x6000 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)  TX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)

>From the bad machine, I can ping the good machine and vice versa.  From 
the good machine, I can ping the router at 192.168.1.1 but from the bad 
machine, I can NOT ping the router - I get Destination Unreachable.

>From the good maching, I can ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu which is at 
169.229.49.36, but from the bad machine, I can not ping 169.229.49.36, 
again getting Destination Host Un

Re: Debian Install help

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 08:24:58PM -, Ed wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> You ask great questions - THANKS

I'm just going through the same process I would for my own systems. It
a matter of asking more and more questions until you hit the one that
does it. :)

> Here are some answers.
> 
> On the machine that does NOT reach the Internet, here is the output from 
> route command.
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
> eth0
> default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
> eth0
> 
> Here is the output from ifconfig command.
> 
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:78:1E:66:90  
>   inet addr:192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
>   RX bytes:10462 (10.2 KiB)  TX bytes:5752 (5.6 KiB)
>   Interrupt:10 Base address:0x6200 
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback  
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>   RX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)  TX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)

that all looks good. you could try traceroute on your bad machine and
see what happens. but I doubt that's available from the installer

> 
> On a machine that DOES work, here is the output from route command.
> 
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
> eth0
> 169.254.0.0 *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 
> eth0

don't sweat that entry. its from avahi-daemon or something like that.

> default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
> eth0
> 
> And on machine that DOES work, here is output from ifcongig
> 
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:18:24:89:1A  
>   inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:18ff:fe24:891a/64 Scope:Link
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:1158648 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:729749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
>   RX bytes:1555494197 (1.4 GiB)  TX bytes:69461364 (66.2 MiB)
>   Interrupt:5 Base address:0x6000 
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback  
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>   RX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)  TX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)
> 

it all looks good to me. I'm down to two suggestions:

1) follow Jude's advice and swap cables around. Be sure to do it
   methodically so you can test both the cable and the ports on your
   switch.

2) complete the install without configuring apt, and reboot. It may
   just work. You can always configure apt later and get more
   installing done after that. 

If it still doesn't work, then I'd look at tcpdump perhaps as a way to
try and see what's happening, but that's out of my league.

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Re: Debian Install Problem...

[Kent West]

Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:


I attempted to install Debian stable release today on a computer that
has Windows on it already. The install seems to have worked and I got
through the entire base configuration, but when I type "startx" I get an
error message that says "no screens found."


This generally means that your video hardware doesn't match the settings 
of X.


Try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and selecting different 
settings, such as SVGA or a lower resolution or a lower color depth.


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Re: Debian Install Problem...

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

Kent West wrote:

Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:


I attempted to install Debian stable release today on a computer that
has Windows on it already. The install seems to have worked and I got
through the entire base configuration, but when I type "startx" I get an
error message that says "no screens found."



This generally means that your video hardware doesn't match the settings 
of X.


Try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and selecting different 
settings, such as SVGA or a lower resolution or a lower color depth.


Kent --

Thanks, I have tried this with a few different settings to no avail.

I have attached the log from the failed boot up (I am not sure if this 
list strips attachments, I will soon find out.) I don't know what to 
make of it. Hopefully someone here will.


More info:

I have two monitors, both 17" LCD 1280 * 1024 plugged into a NVidia 6200 
(I think that is the model #) graphics card. In Windows, I have one big 
desktop across two screens. When I am running Debian at the command 
line, the two monitors show exactly the same thing. When I run startx, I 
get the attached error. Any thoughts?


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(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
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(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
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Entry deleted from font path.
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Re: Debian Install Problem...

[Kent West]

Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:

> Kent West wrote:
>
>> Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
>>
>>> when I type "startx" I get an
>>> error message that says "no screens found."
>>
>> Try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and selecting
>> different settings, such as SVGA or a lower resolution or a lower
>> color depth.
>
>
> Thanks, I have tried this with a few different settings to no avail.

If you've modified "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" by hand, the above command
doesn't modify the file, even though there's no warning that it's not
modifying the file.

> I have two monitors, both 17" LCD 1280 * 1024 plugged into a NVidia
> 6200 (I think that is the model #) graphics card. In Windows, I have
> one big desktop across two screens. When I am running Debian at the
> command line, the two monitors show exactly the same thing. When I run
> startx, I get the attached error. Any thoughts?
>
>(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
>(EE) No devices detected.
>  
>
Look in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 for a "Device" section; does it have a
"BusID" line? If so, it needs to say:
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
to match the Primary Device found as reported by your log file.

However, since you have two monitors with "two" graphics adapters, you
should have a "Device" section for each adapter, and each of those
sections should have an appropriate BusID section. "lspci" should list
the PCI device numbers, but they'll be in hex, and will need to be
converted to decimal for XF86Config-4.  (And you thought Debian was
going to be easy.) Here's an article I wrote a couple of years ago that
might be of some benefit:
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/05/025207&tid=13&tid=39&tid=23&tid=99

The "Xinerama" option will need to be enabled (see tail-end of above
article for example) in order to get your dual-head working as it does
in Windows (sort of).

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Re: Debian Install Problem...

[Kevin Mark]

On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:46:24PM -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
> >Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
> >
> >>I attempted to install Debian stable release today on a computer that
> >>has Windows on it already. The install seems to have worked and I got
> >>through the entire base configuration, but when I type "startx" I get an
> >>error message that says "no screens found."
> >
> >
> >This generally means that your video hardware doesn't match the settings 
> >of X.
> >
> >Try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and selecting different 
> >settings, such as SVGA or a lower resolution or a lower color depth.
> 
> Kent --
> 
> Thanks, I have tried this with a few different settings to no avail.
> 
> I have attached the log from the failed boot up (I am not sure if this 
> list strips attachments, I will soon find out.) I don't know what to 
> make of it. Hopefully someone here will.
> 
> More info:
> 
> I have two monitors, both 17" LCD 1280 * 1024 plugged into a NVidia 6200 
> (I think that is the model #) graphics card. In Windows, I have one big 
> desktop across two screens. When I am running Debian at the command 
> line, the two monitors show exactly the same thing. When I run startx, I 
> get the attached error. Any thoughts?
Hi Peter,
you may want to try:
X -configure
(follow the instructions and try it!)
you can quit this by control-f1 (to get to the console) and control-c,
if X windows works!
post that log, too!
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Re: Debian Install Question

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 07:42:50AM -0400, Jeff Flowers wrote:
> I was installing Potato last night and I selected the module for the 3C59x,
> which supports my 3C905C-TX-M network card. During the install process, the
> install program was unable to configure dhcp for some reason.

I'm interested in the solution to this, myself.  I can't seem to be able
to get the same adapter to work at work using 2.4.18-xfs on Knoppix. 
It'll successfully get the DHCP information, but won't pass traffic from
there.  It works fine using Floppix (which uses 2.0.38).

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

> I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a
> supermicro mother board and it hangs at:
> 
>  pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping
> 
> Any ideas as how to get around this.

Google suggests passing "noapic" to the kernel at boot time. It can be 
worth a try :-?

What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze?

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Blake Hodder]

  
  
I have tried using "noapic" at boot time but it still hangs at Hyper
threading.
Also I am installing lenny.

Blake

On 10-12-10 02:36 PM, Camaleón wrote:

  On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:


  
I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a
supermicro mother board and it hangs at:

 pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping

Any ideas as how to get around this.

  
  
Google suggests passing "noapic" to the kernel at boot time. It can be 
worth a try :-?

What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze?

Greetings,





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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:42:43 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

> On 10-12-10 02:36 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:
>>
>>> I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a
>>> supermicro mother board and it hangs at:
>>>
>>>   pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping
>>>
>>> Any ideas as how to get around this.
>> Google suggests passing "noapic" to the kernel at boot time. It can be
>> worth a try :-?
>>
>> What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze?

> I have tried using "noapic" at boot time but it still hangs at Hyper
> threading.
> Also I am installing lenny.

I don't like workarounds like this, but... how about disabling HT in 
BIOS? Supermicro boards use to have a "enable/disable" switch for that 
setting. If the installation can proceed normally, then you can toggle on 
again when it finishes.

If you prefer to be more conservative (like me) you can also try to load 
a LiveCD of Lenny and see what happens.

Also, check if there is an updated BIOS revision for your board. If yes, 
I would ask Supermicro to get some feedback before applying it, but it 
could be another path to try :-?

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Blake Hodder]

  
  
Unfortunately that did not work and I cannot get it past that point.

On 10-12-10 03:09 PM, Camaleón wrote:

  On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:42:43 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:


  
On 10-12-10 02:36 PM, Camaleón wrote:


  On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:


  
I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a
supermicro mother board and it hangs at:

  pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping

Any ideas as how to get around this.

  
  Google suggests passing "noapic" to the kernel at boot time. It can be
worth a try :-?

What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze?


  
  

  
I have tried using "noapic" at boot time but it still hangs at Hyper
threading.
Also I am installing lenny.

  
  
I don't like workarounds like this, but... how about disabling HT in 
BIOS? Supermicro boards use to have a "enable/disable" switch for that 
setting. If the installation can proceed normally, then you can toggle on 
again when it finishes.

If you prefer to be more conservative (like me) you can also try to load 
a LiveCD of Lenny and see what happens.

Also, check if there is an updated BIOS revision for your board. If yes, 
I would ask Supermicro to get some feedback before applying it, but it 
could be another path to try :-?

Greetings,





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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:47:50 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

> On 10-12-10 03:09 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> I don't like workarounds like this, but... how about disabling HT in
>> BIOS? Supermicro boards use to have a "enable/disable" switch for that
>> setting. If the installation can proceed normally, then you can toggle
>> on again when it finishes.
>>
>> If you prefer to be more conservative (like me) you can also try to
>> load a LiveCD of Lenny and see what happens.
>>
>> Also, check if there is an updated BIOS revision for your board. If
>> yes, I would ask Supermicro to get some feedback before applying it,
>> but it could be another path to try :-?

> Unfortunately that did not work and I cannot get it past that point.

:-(

At what point of the installalation gets stuck? 

Have you verified the checksum of the burned media? What ISO image did 
you got, NET install, first CD or DVD...?

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Blake Hodder]

  
  
If I use 'expert nohz=off' I do not get it to hang on hyper
threading. However I get a kernal panic with CPU 0: machine check
exception: 4 bank 4: b2100010c0f
TSC 43b9780a78

I am using a net install image.

Blake

On 10-12-10 03:47 PM, Blake Hodder wrote:

  
  Unfortunately that did not work and I cannot get it past that
  point.
  
  On 10-12-10 03:09 PM, Camaleón wrote:
  
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:42:43 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:



  On 10-12-10 02:36 PM, Camaleón wrote:

  
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:01:06 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:



  I am currently trying to install debian on a new server that uses a
supermicro mother board and it hangs at:

  pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping

Any ideas as how to get around this.


Google suggests passing "noapic" to the kernel at boot time. It can be
worth a try :-?

What Debian version are you installing... lenny, squeeze?

  


  I have tried using "noapic" at boot time but it still hangs at Hyper
threading.
Also I am installing lenny.


I don't like workarounds like this, but... how about disabling HT in 
BIOS? Supermicro boards use to have a "enable/disable" switch for that 
setting. If the installation can proceed normally, then you can toggle on 
again when it finishes.

If you prefer to be more conservative (like me) you can also try to load 
a LiveCD of Lenny and see what happens.

Also, check if there is an updated BIOS revision for your board. If yes, 
I would ask Supermicro to get some feedback before applying it, but it 
could be another path to try :-?

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:26:44 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

> If I use 'expert nohz=off' I do not get it to hang on hyper threading.
> However I get a kernal panic with CPU 0: machine check exception: 4 bank
> 4: b2100010c0f
> TSC 43b9780a78
> 
> I am using a net install image.

Full kernel parameters list is here:

http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

But hard to guess what "combo" could do the trick >:-?

Another common one is "clocksource=acpi_pm nohz=off highres=off" but who 
knows...

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Tech Geek]

Try the following kernel parameters -- first all of them together and
thereafter in combination:

acpi=off nolapci noapic

Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Blake Hodder]

  
  
Thanks for the reply, however; I have tried them all together as
well as in different combinations and it still hangs at :

pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping

Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance

On 10-12-10 07:45 PM, Tech Geek wrote:

  Try the following kernel parameters -- first all of them
together and thereafter in combination:
   
  acpi=off nolapci noapic
  
 



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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:40:04 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:
> 
> On 10-12-10 07:45 PM, Tech Geek wrote:
>> Try the following kernel parameters -- first all of them together and
>> thereafter in combination:
>> acpi=off nolapci noapic
>>
> Thanks for the reply, however; I have tried them all together as well as
> in different combinations and it still hangs at :
> 
> pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping
> 
> Any other thoughts?
> 
> Thanks in advance

Just one more :-)

pci=nomsi

or:

pci=nommconf

or both:

pci=nomsi pci=nommconf

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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Blake Hodder]

  
  
Thanks Camaleon,

If I use pci=nomsi I get past having it freeze at the same point
however I get the following:

CPU 0: Machine check exception: 4 Bank 4: b2100010c0f
TSC 3cd6bc57a4
This is not a software problem!
Run through mcelog --ascii to decode and contact your hardware
vendor
kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check

Has anyone seen this?

Blake

On 10-12-13 11:03 AM, Camaleón wrote:

  On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:40:04 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

  

On 10-12-10 07:45 PM, Tech Geek wrote:


  Try the following kernel parameters -- first all of them together and
thereafter in combination:
acpi=off nolapci noapic



Thanks for the reply, however; I have tried them all together as well as
in different combinations and it still hangs at :

pci :00:00.0: Enabling HT MSI Mapping

Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance

  
  
Just one more :-)

pci=nomsi

or:

pci=nommconf

or both:

pci=nomsi pci=nommconf

Greetings,





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Re: Debian Install Hangs

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 11:48:11 -0400, Blake Hodder wrote:

> On 10-12-13 11:03 AM, Camaleón wrote:

>>> Any other thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>> Just one more :-)
>>
>> pci=nomsi
>>
>> or:
>>
>> pci=nommconf
>>
>> or both:
>>
>> pci=nomsi pci=nommconf

> Thanks Camaleon,
> 
> If I use pci=nomsi I get past having it freeze at the same point however
> I get the following:
> 
> CPU 0: Machine check exception: 4 Bank 4: b2100010c0f TSC 3cd6bc57a4
> This is not a software problem!
> Run through mcelog --ascii to decode and contact your hardware vendor
> kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check
> 
> Has anyone seen this?

Ugh! I cannot go debugging beyond that, sorry... but the message does not 
sound very good ;-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Check_Exception

Let's see if someone here have had any previous experience with that 
error and can provide you any good hints. Anyway, contacting Supermicro 
technical support will not hurt :-?

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Re: Debian install problem

[Will Lowe]

On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Gary S. MacKay wrote:

> Question:
> Is there any way I can either install via ftp or from my Win95
> shared
> directory?
If you've got an ftp server on your Win95 machine (and some way of
connecting to it like TCP/IP), you can start up dselect,  select "Access",
"Ftp",  and give it the information it asks for,  starting with the
location of your win95 machine.   Otherwise,  you can install via ftp from
one of the debian ftp sites (try ftp.debian.org :))

> Sony cdu31a drive?
Sure.  I have one in my other machine.  You'll need to recompile your
kernel (this isn't tough,  if you haven't done it.  Get the
linux-kernel howto and follow the directions,  or get the kernel source
and use the debian kernel-package package). Make sure you
enable the cdu31a driver (under CD-Rom drivers,  of course).  I had
trouble setting parameters in the compile-time options,  so I ended up
passing the IO base and a few other things to the kernel at run-time via
the options= lilo.conf setting.

Will


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Re: Debian install problem

[Damon Muller]

Greets,

> If you've got an ftp server on your Win95 machine (and some way of
> connecting to it like TCP/IP), you can start up dselect,  select "Access",
> "Ftp",  and give it the information it asks for,  starting with the
> location of your win95 machine.   Otherwise,  you can install via ftp from
> one of the debian ftp sites (try ftp.debian.org :))

I'm not sure that this will work. Last time I tried (with a Bo CD and NT
as the FTP server), this failed miserably. One reason seemed to be that
dselect was looking for case sensitive file names, and NT takes a lot of
liberties with it's filename cases.

Another problem is that NT can't understand symlinks, and there are a lot
of links in binary-i386 pointing to binary-all. The FTP server on NT will
just see these as 0 length files, and dpkg will choke on them.

Installing from a linux FTP, OTOH, is a breeze. But that's a chicken and
egg problem, isn't it :)

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Re: Debian Install woes..

[Michael Merten]

On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 01:41:20PM -0700, Steven Klass wrote:
> Hey all.
> 
> Ok, I installed Debian without a hitch, and then deselect came into play.
> Here is the problems that I ran into, when trying something different, and
> maybe you guys can help me out a bit.
> 
> I ran the standard install using the install disks (Binary - The orange
> one).  When it came time for me to select which type of install I wanted, I
> chose Basic - because I want the freedom to pick and choose which debs I
> want later.  I know I could have done custom, but hey I'm also relatively
> lazy in scrolling through some 1500 debs:)  Anyway it was time for the
> reboot.  After I rebooted, I picked my root passwd and established a user,
> and then dselect came up.  The screen prior to it stated that just use
> Access, Install, and Configure, because I had already picked the debs to
> install.  Makes sense.  So since I rebooted and I saw that it found my nic,
> why not use the ftp access option and get the latest and greatest right?  I
> ftp'd to Debian and bam I was instantly downloading the latest and greatest
> stuff.  Way cool.
> 
> Install - Oh CRAP!!  Error after error after error, and then finally sorry
> dpkg stated too many errors.  OK, now what.  Since the errors were so many,
> and so frequent I could only catch glimpses of the error codes.  Namely
> ncurses comes to mind.  Obviously configure won't work, and it didn't, I
> tried.  What did I do wrong?  It would appear that I was supposed to install
> form the CD, but where on the CD are these files?  I didn't see them.  And
> since I can't do what I tried, it should have been in the docs not to do
> that.  Has anyone else seen this problem?  TIA, much appreciated.
> 
>
When installing lots of files (which you're trying to do), the ftp
method for dselect can run into problems with dependencies.  I'd
suggest you download and install apt manually, then start dselect,
go to the [A]ccess menu and select the apt method.

As far as your current problem, you can try running dselect-install
again (sometimes it takes several passes to get everything worked
out right).

HTH,
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Re: Debian Install woes..

[Carl Mummert]

Don't panic.


If the system is letting you log in, then no permanent damage is
done (i.e. you DON'T need to reinstall everything.)

Here's what to do:

See if you have the 'script' command available; it is in a base package,
but onot priority essential, so you may or may not have it.  If you don't
have it, then download the bsdutils_???.deb (I don't know the version)
from the main/binary-i386/basesubdir of your favorite debian distribution
(you can try 'find /cdrom -name 'bsduti*'' to see if its on the cdrom, 
after you mount the cdrom on /cdrom).  

Once you have script available ( it's /usr/bin/script), run it
as root, then go into dselect and re-run the dselect 'configure'
option'.  Type 'exit' to kill the shell that script started, and you will see a 
message that the output file is 'typescript'.

Mail this file to the debian-user list, and we will comment on how to fix
things.   Note that, depending on what access emthod you chose in 
dselect, you may have to iterate the 'install' option a few times before
everything will install successfully.  This is fixed with apt, since
apt knows what order to isntall things in.  The older install methods
install things in the wrong order, so you have to choose 'install' over
and over. 


But, do the script thing. mail it in, and we will try to help you.

Carl

Re: Debian install issue

[Jian Gong]

>I get the monocrome/color dialog and then the dialog box that says "The
>installation program is determining the current state of your system" and
>here it stops - no message, nothing, just stops. The system is not
>completely frozen, I can switch to the other consoles but installation
>doesn't continue.


Try to load BIOS default in your BIOS setup and boot from a Debian boot
disk.

good luck

Jian

Re: Debian Install Question

[Dwayne C . Litzenberger]

I don't quite understand what is wrong here, but I know that FIPS makes 2
DOS partitions.  When I FIPSed my hard drive (back in the days) I then
deleted the new partition and made 1 linux and 1 swap.

Hope that is relevant.


On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 08:37:31AM -0500, Bryan Walton wrote:
> Hello,
>   Please forgive me for this newbie question.  I am new to linux and 
> Debian.
>  I have a question regarding installation.  I have a 13 gig hard drive
> which I partitioned this past weekend so that I could dual boot Debian
> Linux alongside Windows 98.  Using the fips program, I split my hard drive
> into two 6.5 Gig drives.  Everything seemed to go fine.
>   Last night I began my installation of Debian (slink).  Very soon into 
> the
> process, it told me that there was no linux swap partitions preset on my
> system and it told me to partition my hard disk to add "linux native" and
> "linux swap" partitions to my disk.
>   So, knowing that I needed to create a linux swap, I did as it told me 
> and
> sought to partition the /dev/hda drive.  But then it gave me an error
> message saying "Fatal Error: Bad primary partition."  Then it told me
> "cfdisk has failed while trying to repartition your disk.  That may mean
> your disk's partition table is corrupt, or your disk is 'factory clean.'  I
> may wipe out your disk's current partition table and run cfdisk again.
> Warning: You will lost any data currently on that disk.  Are you sure you
> want me to do this?"
>   I would like to make sure I understand what has happened here.  I think
> this all means that when I used Fips to partition my hard drive, that
> something went wrong.  Furthermore, the only solution is for the Debian
> Installation program to clear the entire hard drive and start again,
> essentially wiping out Windows and everything running off of Windows.  Is
> this correct?  Is there anyway to fix this problem without erasing
> everything?  Or am I wrong in what I think is happening here?
> 
> Thanks very much!
> Bryan Walton
> 
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Re: debian install [OOPS!]

[Marc Mongeon]

Raymond:

In item (2), don't press Alt-F1 to get to the second screen, type Alt-F2.  
Sorry,
that minor typo could cause you all sorts of headaches.

I think the rest of the post is factually correct.

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Raymond:

Here's what I'd try:

1.  Boot with the Custom Boot Floppy.  Try logging in as root with no password
(just hit  at the "password:" prompt).  Then try every reasonable permu-
tation of what you think is your password, keeping in mind that case is import-
ant to Unix.

2.  If (1) doesn't work, boot with the Rescue Floppy.  At the "Boot:" prompt,
type "root=/dev/hda1" (if your root partition is /dev/hda1; do you remember
how you set it up during the first install?).  This should get you to the first 
screen
of the install process.  Now type Alt-F1.  You should be at a terminal screen 
with
a "#" prompt.  Do you remember being prompted during the install whether you
wanted to use shadow passwords?  If you chose to use shadow passwords, now
type "vi /etc/shadow"; otherwise, type "vi /etc/passwd".  What you're doing
here is editing the password file.  You should see a line that looks like this:

root::0:

Delete the stuff between "root:" and ":0" (don't delete the colons, though).  If
you don't know vi, here's a crash course:  use the arrow keys to position the
cursor over the first character after the first colon.  Type "x" until all of 
those letters
have disappeared.  Type ":wq".  When you type ":", a colon appears at the bottom
of the screen; "wq" means "write and quit".  OK, you've deleted the root 
password,
so you should be able to login as root after you re-boot.  Now type "shutdown 
-h now".
Wait for a message that says "System halted".  Put in the Custom Boot Floppy and
re-boot the computer.  Can you login as root with no password now?

I hope all that made sense.

Marc

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>>> raymond ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/15 4:04 PM >>>
Marc: it was in access that I had the problem. Prior to me going into that 
screen, I
had picked std. workstation. Do I have to use Access and pick one listed here. 
This is
where I picked multi_cds.by accident(I was actually using a single cd picked up 
at
Linux World). I cannot boot into Linux with my Boot Magic loader. It starts to 
load
Linux but stops with an underline cursor, and freezes. I have to then shut off 
my
machine. Cntl./alt/del won't work.
Should I be using my Custom Boot Floppy or the Rescue Floppy. I can login as 
user when
I put the Custom Boot Floppy in, but it won't accept root. I wrote down my root
password, so I know I have it right. Is there a way I can check on my password 
for
root, to make sure the second time I inputted the password it took it right? 
thanks
for your help. ray ferrari

Marc Mongeon wrote:

> Raymond:
>
> First device on second controller is /dev/hdc.  Can you boot Linux at
> this point?  If so, just log in as root and run dselect again.  Make sure
> your access method is correct, skip the select phase, and go right to
> install.  If you can't boot Linux, you should probably just start the install
> from scratch-- sucks, I know, but things always go more smoothly the
> second time around :).
>
> Marc
>
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> Marc Mongeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Unix Specialist
> Ban-Koe Systems
> 9100 W Bloomington Fwy
> Bloomington, MN 55431-2200
> (612)888-0123, x417 | FAX: (612)888-3344
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> "It's such a fine line between clever and stupid."
>-- David St. Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel of "Spinal Tap"
>
> >>> raymond ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/15 2:19 PM >>>
> The last couple days have been going thru a new install with win95 on
> the machine. Everything proceeded great...slow paced...and methodical
> until I got to dselect. I decided to use a profile(std workstation) but
> wanted to look in dselect to check it out. I went to 'access' and
> somehow I must have picked multi _ cds because the next screen asked me
> to put in a CD and specify /dev/cdrom. This is where I got stuck and
> could not go anywhere. I tried dev/hdb1. It recognizes the CD iso9660
> just can't mount. I tried mount and other commands I could find under
> the cd-rom how to. My CD-ROM is internal, NEC 3001A 17x-40x. During
> setup, I used "the first ? on the secondary controller. This seemed to
> work fine. I had to do a cntr/alt/del and I was able to get back to
> windows. I am using Boot Magic to dual boot. How do I get back 

Re: Debian Install problem

[Carl Fink]

On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 01:01:19AM -0500, Raymond Johnson wrote:

> I'm trying to install debian linux but I'm having trouble.  

You might want to post to debian-boot instead of debian-user.  Not that we
aren't helpful, but that's where the the installer developers hang out.

>... I ran jigdo and downloaded an ISO file successfully and burned a cd
> successfully from the ISO.  After creating the partitions I get to
> "INSTALL KERNEL AND DRIVER MODULES" but it can't seem to find a particular
> file, "images-1.44/rescue.bin" After checking the contents of the CD, I
> find "rescue.bin" in the "boot" directory.  So I tried this again but by
> manually entering the directory where this file is found and I get the
> error message "cannot find file /instmnt/boot/images-1.44/rescue.bin"

My first thought would be to try burning the CD again.  You did check the
MD5 sum, right?  When I installed Sarge (Debian Testing) recently, my first
CD-ROM did burn defectively, and I know it's not uncommon.
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RE: Debian Install problem

[Raymond Johnson]

-Original Message-
From: Carl Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Fink
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Debian Install problem

On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 01:01:19AM -0500, Raymond Johnson wrote:

> I'm trying to install debian linux but I'm having trouble.  

You might want to post to debian-boot instead of debian-user.  Not that we
aren't helpful, but that's where the the installer developers hang out.

>... I ran jigdo and downloaded an ISO file successfully and burned a cd
> successfully from the ISO.  After creating the partitions I get to
> "INSTALL KERNEL AND DRIVER MODULES" but it can't seem to find a particular
> file, "images-1.44/rescue.bin" After checking the contents of the CD, I
> find "rescue.bin" in the "boot" directory.  So I tried this again but by
> manually entering the directory where this file is found and I get the
> error message "cannot find file /instmnt/boot/images-1.44/rescue.bin"

My first thought would be to try burning the CD again.  You did check the
MD5 sum, right?  When I installed Sarge (Debian Testing) recently, my first
CD-ROM did burn defectively, and I know it's not uncommon.

Well, I found the problem.  It turns out that I was trying to install from
the 2nd disk :(  I realized this after I posted.  I am a little surprised
that it did the initial partitioning being that it was the 2nd disk.  It was
my first time using jigdo and I don't know what I did wrong; perhaps I
mistyped the file name.

Thanks for your help,

Raymond

Re: debian install error

[Craig Sanders]

On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Solomani wrote:

> When i first initialise two brand new 4.5 gig IBM HD i get this error
> 
> badblocks: cant resolve symbol 'llseek'
> writing inode tables: 256/265mkfs.ext2 cant resolve symbol 'llseek'
> 
> ideas?
> 
> suggestions?
> 
> solutions?

hmmm. that's an old problem...haven't seen it for a while. you must be
running on an old kernel and/or old libc - what versions are you running? 

anyway, the reason for the problem is that until fairly recently (6 months
or less - i can't remember exactly) the kernel was limited to approx 2gb
filesystems. This limit is gone now. 

try upgrading your system - at least the kernel, libc5, e2fsprogs and any
other packages which these may be dependant upon. 


if you really don't want to do this, then you can still format the disks
with multiple <2gb partitions. 



I just saw the subject line again - if you're in the middle of installing
debian for the first time (how old is the floppy/CD set you're installing
from? - where did you get it from?), then you have a few choices:

1.  download the latest install disks from ftp.debian.org (or a mirror
near you) and use them to install with.  they will  be at least
kernel 2.0.27, so should be able to format large disks.

2.  partition ONE of your drives so that /, /usr, /home, /var, /tmp
etc are on separate partitions and take less than 2gb each. install
debian onto this setup. when you have debian installed, then upgrade
the kernel etc as mentioned above, and when you've rebooted with a
newer kernel you should be able to format the second 4.5GB drive as
a single partition.



craig

(there's more than one way to do just about anything :-)

Re: debian install error

[Solomani]

On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:

Im using the 2.0.0 install set (i then upgrade teh kernel myself later:)
I'll download the later disks and see what happens.  Thanks!


> 
> On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Solomani wrote:
> 
> > When i first initialise two brand new 4.5 gig IBM HD i get this error
> > 
> > badblocks: cant resolve symbol 'llseek'
> > writing inode tables: 256/265mkfs.ext2 cant resolve symbol 'llseek'
> > 
> > ideas?
> > 
> > suggestions?
> > 
> > solutions?
> 
> hmmm. that's an old problem...haven't seen it for a while. you must be
> running on an old kernel and/or old libc - what versions are you running? 
> 
> anyway, the reason for the problem is that until fairly recently (6 months
> or less - i can't remember exactly) the kernel was limited to approx 2gb
> filesystems. This limit is gone now. 
> 
> try upgrading your system - at least the kernel, libc5, e2fsprogs and any
> other packages which these may be dependant upon. 
> 
> 
> if you really don't want to do this, then you can still format the disks
> with multiple <2gb partitions. 
> 
> 
> 
> I just saw the subject line again - if you're in the middle of installing
> debian for the first time (how old is the floppy/CD set you're installing
> from? - where did you get it from?), then you have a few choices:
> 
> 1.  download the latest install disks from ftp.debian.org (or a mirror
> near you) and use them to install with.  they will  be at least
> kernel 2.0.27, so should be able to format large disks.
> 
> 2.  partition ONE of your drives so that /, /usr, /home, /var, /tmp
> etc are on separate partitions and take less than 2gb each. install
> debian onto this setup. when you have debian installed, then upgrade
> the kernel etc as mentioned above, and when you've rebooted with a
> newer kernel you should be able to format the second 4.5GB drive as
> a single partition.
> 
> 
> 
> craig
> 
> (there's more than one way to do just about anything :-)
> 
> 
> 


c'ya hate to be ya,

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Re: Debian install woes

[Ryan Nowakowski]

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 06:45:06PM +, james wrote:
> I'm trying to install Debian on some Dell 1750's and really need some 
> guidance. 

You could try using Heanet's modified version of Debian[1] for Dell
Poweredge servers.  I think it was made for 2650's but might work with
your 1750's.

[1] http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/heanet/

- Ryan


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