Re: Debian on laptops; recommended?

1998-02-13 Thread Sen Nagata
at some point around 12 Feb 1998 12:58:39 -0600
Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:

  Anselm == Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The current boot disks won't allow you to install over
  PCMCIA ethernet or off a PCMCIA SCSI bus, AFAIK, but this
  seems to be worked on.
 
 I've done several installations on laptops with a PCMCIA ethernet
 card.  If you copy the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules packages to
 the laptop (with a floppy), you can install them with dpkg and do
 the rest with dselect and ftp.  Should work for a pcmcia scsi
 adapter as well.

i did not find pcmcia-modules to be necessary in my case (may be
i was lucky as far as the hardware i have).  i ftp-ed the pcmcia-cs package
to a dos floppy and copied it to a fresh install of debian 1.3.x
and did a 'dpkg -i'.  this allowed me to use dselect w/ ftp.

if people are interested in a few more details, i have something at:

  http://www.htp.org/~sen/debian/hu2/install.html

of course, it's only for one particular laptop (dec hinote ultra2)...YMMV

-sen


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Re: Debian on laptops; recommended?

1998-02-12 Thread Anselm Lingnau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes:

 Can any happy (or unhappy) Debian-on-laptop users help me here with
 information?

I'd say it depends a lot on the laptop in question. My own notebook is a
slightly dated IPC PortaPC 5 with a 486DX33 processor, 8 MB RAM, 700 MB
disk and a WD90C24A graphics controller. Debian runs just fine and dandy
on that machine. At the university, we have two notebooks which are
basically Texas Instruments workalikes with a Pentium-133 and 40 MB RAM,
and they are great Debian machines -- I'm using one of them as my libc6
development machine, actually. The only thing about these is that the
display is based on a Cirrus Logic chip which doesn't appear to be very
well-supported by XFree86; I have to use an older version of the server
which is the only one that seems stable. (The XFree people say that the
particular driver hasn't been tested a lot.)

In a nutshell, you will want to check carefully which graphics chip the
computer is using, since this is the area with the most
incompatibilities. Another thing that might be problematic is APM, as
not all notebooks implement APM completely within the BIOS -- some do
the power management stuff under Windows only. The current boot disks
won't allow you to install over PCMCIA ethernet or off a PCMCIA SCSI
bus, AFAIK, but this seems to be worked on.

There is a `Linux Laptop Page' on the WWW which will be easy to find
through Altavista etc.

I don't really think this is a topic for debian-private so have Cc:-ed
this answer to debian-user (which I don't have time to read myself :^().

Anselm
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Re: Debian on laptops; recommended?

1998-02-12 Thread Mike Miller
 Anselm == Anselm Lingnau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The current boot disks won't allow you to install over
 PCMCIA ethernet or off a PCMCIA SCSI bus, AFAIK, but this
 seems to be worked on.

I've done several installations on laptops with a PCMCIA ethernet
card.  If you copy the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules packages to
the laptop (with a floppy), you can install them with dpkg and do
the rest with dselect and ftp.  Should work for a pcmcia scsi
adapter as well.

Mike


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Re: Debian on laptops; recommended?

1998-02-12 Thread Stephen Zander

Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I've done several installations on laptops with a PCMCIA ethernet
 card.  If you copy the pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules packages to
 the laptop (with a floppy), you can install them with dpkg and do
 the rest with dselect and ftp.  Should work for a pcmcia scsi
 adapter as well.

As another data-point: I'm writing this on an IBM 760CD.  But yes, I did
have prblems getting PCMCIA support going (no apm symbols in the 1.3.1
boot-disk kernel.)

-- 
Stephen
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