Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?

1997-08-11 Thread Mike Miller
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
 On Thu, Aug 07, 1997 at 11:03:10AM -0400, Mike Miller wrote:
  On my machine at home I'm running a 486sx33 IBM PS/1 with an old BIOS.
  For dos, I installed the western digital overlay that allows access, but
  in Linux, it ran perfect w/o it. According to WD, however, if you ask
  them, Linux is broken because it doesn't use the BIOS. Yeah, and Win95
  is fixed. That'll be the day. There's a largedisk howto (or maybe it's
  a mini-howto). Check it out, I found it to be very helpful. Good luck.
 
 Fortunately, if you do need Disk Manager anyway (due to booting
 to DOS etc), Linux is fine with it.
 
 Hamish
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True. For that matter, it does recongnize the drive as having a 63
offset to allow for DM


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Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?

1997-08-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Aug 07, 1997 at 11:03:10AM -0400, Mike Miller wrote:
 On my machine at home I'm running a 486sx33 IBM PS/1 with an old BIOS.
 For dos, I installed the western digital overlay that allows access, but
 in Linux, it ran perfect w/o it. According to WD, however, if you ask
 them, Linux is broken because it doesn't use the BIOS. Yeah, and Win95
 is fixed. That'll be the day. There's a largedisk howto (or maybe it's
 a mini-howto). Check it out, I found it to be very helpful. Good luck.

Fortunately, if you do need Disk Manager anyway (due to booting
to DOS etc), Linux is fine with it.


Hamish
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Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?

1997-08-07 Thread Mike Miller
Chris Brown wrote:
 
  I have several old 386 machines around that would be nice for
 different tasks.  These machines have older BIOSs in them that
 can't deal with larger IDE drives.  My experience with DOS is that
 you need to fdisk and format the drive on a machine that properly
 supports the particular disk but once that is done DOS is happy to
 ignore the BIOS.  Is this the case with Linux?  Is it necessary to
 pass the disk parameters to the kernel at boot time?
 
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On my machine at home I'm running a 486sx33 IBM PS/1 with an old BIOS.
For dos, I installed the western digital overlay that allows access, but
in Linux, it ran perfect w/o it. According to WD, however, if you ask
them, Linux is broken because it doesn't use the BIOS. Yeah, and Win95
is fixed. That'll be the day. There's a largedisk howto (or maybe it's
a mini-howto). Check it out, I found it to be very helpful. Good luck.


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Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?

1997-08-07 Thread Alex Yukhimets
  I have several old 386 machines around that would be nice for 
 different tasks.  These machines have older BIOSs in them that 
 can't deal with larger IDE drives.  My experience with DOS is that 
 you need to fdisk and format the drive on a machine that properly 
 supports the particular disk but once that is done DOS is happy to 
 ignore the BIOS.  Is this the case with Linux?  Is it necessary to 
 pass the disk parameters to the kernel at boot time?

Linux ignores BIOS totally, lilo doesn't.
I am in exactly the same situation (older BIOS, new 1.7G hard drive) and
I had no problems partitioning and formating it in linux.
I do not supply disk parameters to the kernel, but this might depend on
the type of hard drive you use.

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Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?

1997-08-07 Thread Paul Wade
I have had no problems partitioning and installing Linux on 1.2 gig and
3.5 gig drives on old 386 machines. I boot the install floppy and proceed
from there. I usually just create a boot floppy. This loads the kernel
into memory and IDE access from there is handled w/o the obsolete BIOS.


On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Chris Brown wrote:

  I have several old 386 machines around that would be nice for 
 different tasks.  These machines have older BIOSs in them that 
 can't deal with larger IDE drives.  My experience with DOS is that 
 you need to fdisk and format the drive on a machine that properly 
 supports the particular disk but once that is done DOS is happy to 
 ignore the BIOS.  Is this the case with Linux?  Is it necessary to 
 pass the disk parameters to the kernel at boot time?

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[INSTALL] Re: Does Linux use BIOS parameters for disk?

1997-08-07 Thread Joost Kooij


On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Chris Brown wrote:

  I have several old 386 machines around that would be nice for 
 different tasks.  These machines have older BIOSs in them that 
 can't deal with larger IDE drives.  My experience with DOS is that 
 you need to fdisk and format the drive on a machine that properly 
 supports the particular disk but once that is done DOS is happy to 
 ignore the BIOS.  Is this the case with Linux?  Is it necessary to 
 pass the disk parameters to the kernel at boot time?

Older BIOS usually means: no LBA translation, so the BIOS and any program
that uses only BIOS calls cannot access the part of the disk that is
beyond 540 MB.

The linux kernel does not use the BIOS, so it is perfectly happy with the
large disk.

But, the kernel has to be loaded at some time on bootup. Because lilo uses
BIOS calls for this, the kernel image (/vmlinuz) must be below the 540 MB
limit or lilo cannot boot it. 

This does not apply if your you can use LBA mode on the disk (improbable
with old 386 hardware).


Joost



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