Re: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors

2003-03-11 Thread Calyth
It seems that at least switching to the other card doesn't seem to lead 
to overruns and errors.
I'll have to run some transfers to be sure.
Thanks lots for the help!
Is there others here who know about software channel bonding in Linux? 
It would be an interesting thing to do.

Calyth

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Re: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors

2003-03-11 Thread Calyth
Well I got a spare 3c509 that has not been used. I suppose I could try 
that card too. I got no spare cable, but if the spare card is also 
having problems,  that would give me a good idea what's going on.
Thanks all for the help!

Calyth

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Re: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors

2003-03-11 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 14:29, Jason M. Harvey wrote:
>
> actually, i had the same exact problem! mine was an isa 3com, i think
> the 3c509c... 

Me too, I had two 3c509 ISA (out of the three I had) die in similar ways
in the few last weeks. I guess they are beginning to show their age.



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Re: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors

2003-03-11 Thread Jason M. Harvey
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 05:03, Calyth wrote:
> I've been using 3c509b cards before, but it seems that this one, at a 
> uptime of 8 days, as a samba server, it have encountered 182 errors and 
> 185 overruns upon receiving 838.6 "MiB" (excuse my ignorance, but I 
> can't recall what MiB means. It has to be something bytes, but what?)
> Anyways, I was reading the Ethernet HOWTO, and it suggested me to change 
> the window size using the route command. According to that HOWTO, 
> linux's default TCP Rx window is set to 32KB, and I've reset it to half 
> the size. I'm waiting to see if anything improves.
> Has anyone ran into the same problem, and if so did anything you do that 
> effectively solves it? I'd be glad to hear.
> Also, is there a way to use two network cards in this (pretty much 
> crippled) server so that it would have better "speed", for a lack of a 
> better term. Again, I'm using it as a Samba server, and neither the HD 
> nor the network card seems to be fully utilized - the activity lights 
> are busts - so I don't quite believe that it being a 486 with 32MB of 
> RAM is truly the problem. I'm aware of ways that software could make 
> other computers think that two NIC as one, is there anything like that 
> that I could use in this case?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Calyth

actually, i had the same exact problem! mine was an isa 3com, i think
the 3c509c... not sure. anyway, i was takining massive errors - the same
as you. i tested some downloads - got about 7 to 9 k from kernel.org.
changed the cable, no help. then the local shop sold me a used smc isa
card for $5 - no more problems! those same downloads then came at about
170 k (cable) during busy hours!
sounds like a card problem.

good luck,
jason


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Re: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors

2003-03-11 Thread Geordie Birch
said Calyth (on 2003-03-11),

> 185 overruns upon receiving 838.6 "MiB" (excuse my ignorance, but I
> can't recall what MiB means. It has to be something bytes, but what?)

>From http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=136

Giga- A Prefix meaning 1 Billion, or 10^9 of something.
Kilo- A Prefix meaning 1 Thousand, or 10^3 of something.
Gibi- A Prefix meaning 2^30 of something, derived from Gigabinary.
Kibi- A Prefix meaning 2^10 of something, derived from Kilobinary
Equivalents for Mega-, Tera-, Peta-, etc. all exist in similar fashion.

While this seems a little fussy, it becomes important when talking
about large quantities. The difference between a Kilobyte and a
Kibibyte is 24 bytes (2^10  10^3,) an amount very few people are
going to notice or care about. When we start looking at Gigabytes
and Gibibytes however, the difference is 73,741,834 Bytes (2^30
10^9,) a significant quantity.

Geordie.


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Re: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors

2003-03-11 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Calyth wrote:

> I've been using 3c509b cards before, but it seems that this one, at a
> uptime of 8 days, as a samba server, it have encountered 182 errors and
> 185 overruns upon receiving 838.6 "MiB" (excuse my ignorance, but I
> can't recall what MiB means. It has to be something bytes, but what?)


Don't know about the actual problem, but MiB stands for MibiBytes, where
Mibi is the proper way to say 'powers of 1024' (Mi == 1024*1024), in
contrast to the M of Mega, which is a power of 1000 (M == 1000*1000).

Normally an oridnary Mega is used to denote 1024^2, but since we do not
want to contradict the Systeme Internationale, Mibi is introduced (along
with kiB, kibibytes).

Cheers,
Sebastiaan



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RE: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors

2003-03-11 Thread Colin Ellis
Sounds more likely to be a hardware problem.  Check cables with a cable
tester and try changing the network card.

These problems aren't normal and a 486/32MB ram configured as a samba server
for a small no of users should be ok.

To answer the question on ethernet card bonding, it's possible to get 4-port
network cards that support bonding.  An example of this is the D-link 570TX.
I've used this before as 4 separate nics, but not in the bonding mode.

I hope this helps,

Colin Ellis
Solution City Ltd
http://www.solution-city.com

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Subject: Ethernet problems: old 3c509b card is having overrun and errors


I've been using 3c509b cards before, but it seems that this one, at a
uptime of 8 days, as a samba server, it have encountered 182 errors and
185 overruns upon receiving 838.6 "MiB" (excuse my ignorance, but I
can't recall what MiB means. It has to be something bytes, but what?)
Anyways, I was reading the Ethernet HOWTO, and it suggested me to change
the window size using the route command. According to that HOWTO,
linux's default TCP Rx window is set to 32KB, and I've reset it to half
the size. I'm waiting to see if anything improves.
Has anyone ran into the same problem, and if so did anything you do that
effectively solves it? I'd be glad to hear.
Also, is there a way to use two network cards in this (pretty much
crippled) server so that it would have better "speed", for a lack of a
better term. Again, I'm using it as a Samba server, and neither the HD
nor the network card seems to be fully utilized - the activity lights
are busts - so I don't quite believe that it being a 486 with 32MB of
RAM is truly the problem. I'm aware of ways that software could make
other computers think that two NIC as one, is there anything like that
that I could use in this case?
Thanks in advance.

Calyth


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