RE: Format of .deb files

[Person, Rod]

>>Winzip should be able to take it from there.

> > >>If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation
> (/usr/doc,
> > .>>/usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with
> debian
> >>> running? Is it available on the web?
> 
>>hmm well... with dwww there is an entire web interface to
documentation
>>I don't know if anyone has dww publicly available for
browseing

I got  a little trick you can try. If you have Midnight
Commander installed you can use that to install .deb. Now before you
install, it shows what it's installing and where. For Example:

/Content
INFO
*INSTALL

If you choose /content directory it will contain the /doc and /man paths
and the documents in them. You can the view the Readmes and such and
then save them to a dos floppy in a txt format and take them to work to
read That what I do. I have had a problem yet...

Rod

Re: Format of .deb files

[Rene Hojbjerg Larsen]

Stephen J. Carpenter wrote:
> I guess your home PC can't be acessed from work (ie having it online)
> too bad...I need to set mine up (one of these days) to let me tell it
> to conenct remotely.

xringd is your friend.

Just remember that if you have a dynamic IP you need a way to locate your
machine on the Internet.  You can either set up a script to post the IP to
a web site or mail you the IP, or you can use a dynamic DNS service such
as the one at www.ml.org.  Check out the mlddc package for a client for
the latter.
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Re: Format of .deb files

[David B. Teague]

Eric, 
Are all of .deb files ar archives?I recall having tried to unpack some.deb
files with ar, and that didn't work.

Whether they are all ar files, what were they before they were archive
files?

--David

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

> > 
> > My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages
> > on a Windows box? Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of
> > tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have
> > Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities).
> > 
> 
> deb files are `ar' archives, they contain gzipped tar files, one of
> which contains the data, and another one contains the control scripts.
> 
> HTH,
> Eric
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Re: Format of .deb files

[Stephen J. Carpenter]

On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:06:25PM +0100, Moore, Paul wrote:
> I am trying to get to grips with Debian, and I'd like to browse through
> the documentation. The problem I have is that my Debian PC is at one
> home, whereas the PC where I have the most chance to read documentation,
> print things out, follow up references, etc, is at work. My current work
> PC is Windows only [:-(] but it does have a CD drive and I have the
> Debian CDs.

I guess your home PC can't be acessed from work (ie having it online)
too bad...I need to set mine up (one of these days) to let me tell it
to conenct remotely.

> My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages
> on a Windows box? Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of
> tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have
> Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities).

thay are...

ar is the top level used...
user ar to extract that and there will be a couple of control files and
a .tar.gz 

Winzip should be able to take it from there.

> If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation (/usr/doc,
> /usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with debian
> running? Is it available on the web?

hmm well... with dwww there is an entire web interface to documentation
I don't know if anyone has dww publicly available for browseing


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RE: Format of .deb files

[Moore, Paul]

>From:  J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can
>> I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc
>> utilities).
>
>deb(5) documents the format. Basically, it's an ar(1) archive containing
>tar.gz archives.

Great. I'll pick up man 5 deb tonight and I can start hacking...

>> If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation (/usr/doc,
>> /usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with debian
>> running?
>
>Perhaps setting up a dwww server is an option. (see
>http://dwww.jimpick.com/)
>
>> Is it available on the web?
>
>See http://dwww.jimpick.com/dwww/ for a demo.

Actually, this gives me 90% of what I need directly. Brilliant!

Thanks for the help. I think that's the record for the fastest ever help
I've ever had with a problem - your reply was back in a few minutes
after I posted!!!

Paul.

Re: Format of .deb files

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:06:25PM +0100, Moore, Paul wrote:
> My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages
> on a Windows box?

Probably, though I don't know how much work is involved.

> Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of tar/cpio archive - can
> I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have Windows gzip, tar, etc
> utilities).

deb(5) documents the format. Basically, it's an ar(1) archive containing
tar.gz archives.

> If not, is there any other way I can browse the documentation (/usr/doc,
> /usr/man, /usr/info) for debian while not actually at a PC with debian
> running?

Perhaps setting up a dwww server is an option. (see
http://dwww.jimpick.com/)

> Is it available on the web?

See http://dwww.jimpick.com/dwww/ for a demo.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Format of .deb files

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> My question is, basically, can I extract files from .deb format packages
> on a Windows box? Presumably, .deb files are internally some form of
> tar/cpio archive - can I get at the tar so that I can unpack it (I have
> Windows gzip, tar, etc utilities).
> 

deb files are `ar' archives, they contain gzipped tar files, one of
which contains the data, and another one contains the control scripts.

HTH,
Eric

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