Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:03:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? -- Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Speak softly and own a big, mean Doberman. -- Dave Millman
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
Jonathan Markevich said: Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? The Win32 vncserver serves the current display. (It essentially tricks Windows into thinking the remote user is sitting at the console.) The *nix vncserver functions as an X session and is not tied to the local display. -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:52:15AM -0400, Jonathan Markevich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:03:38PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? See other followups. Actually, if you had locally served X apps, you could display them to the remote (Linux) VNC session, then display them locally via VNC viewer. Remember: X is a networked windowing system g. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpI8fhzDVsau.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? See other followups. Actually, if you had locally served X apps, you could display them to the remote (Linux) VNC session, then display them locally via VNC viewer. Remember: X is a networked windowing system g. Man, I have GOT to try this... I experimented quite a bit with the Win32 server (see my ludicrous experimentation at http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich/doorstop.html). Man, after using Linux for pushing 7 years I keep forgetting how *cool* it really is. -- Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == An idealist is one who helps the other fellow to make a profit. -- Henry Ford
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:23:51PM -0400, Jonathan Markevich wrote: An older version of MI/X? [SNIP] I haven't had tremendous experience, but StarNet has X-Win32 for sale ($100?)... the demo runs for 2 hours, the way I'd use it is definitely under the two hour limit. It is a much nicer display than MI/X anyways. There's also http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/, but i'm not sure how usable it is. Haven't tried it myself, no windows at home and they bought X-Win32 at work. (BTW, the FAQ may be out of date, recent messages in the mailing list archives seem to indicate a X-Server is available). If anyone gets this working as an X Server, i'd like to hear how well it works. == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == Well yeah, but it's also boxes and not boxen, Unixes instead of Unicies, and so on. What's your point? ;) http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/Overgeneralization.html -- finger for GPG public key. pgpp8sMUSpfEi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 07:29:41PM -0400, Jonathan Markevich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. Or if you want to be multiuser. IIRC, vncserver will serve the current display, right? See other followups. Actually, if you had locally served X apps, you could display them to the remote (Linux) VNC session, then display them locally via VNC viewer. Remember: X is a networked windowing system g. Man, I have GOT to try this... I experimented quite a bit with the Win32 server (see my ludicrous experimentation at http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich/doorstop.html). Man, after using Linux for pushing 7 years I keep forgetting how *cool* it really is. You are one sick and twisted dude. I like that in a person. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpSAiQG3W3li.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:05:32PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote: The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? Anyone share some experiences? I haven't had tremendous experience, but StarNet has X-Win32 for sale ($100?)... the demo runs for 2 hours, the way I'd use it is definitely under the two hour limit. It is a much nicer display than MI/X anyways. -- Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == On-line, adj.: The idea that a human being should always be accessible to a computer.
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
Hi Sven, Quoth Sven Burgener, The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? Anyone share some experiences? I have had a bit of a play around with a java applet called WeirdX. It has all the usual java problems (ie., it's a bit slow, etc.), but it seems to work alright on windoze. It doesn't actually come with a window manager, so to use it you have to export the display and launch your x clients from your other machine (it's confusing at first, as you just get a blank applet window). It's not recommended by the author for heavy use (ie., you don't want to run E in it), but it's free (speech and beer), and runs on windows. I don't have a URL for it, but it's certainly listed on freshmeat. I haven't spent more than a few minutes playing with it, but you might like to try it out anyway. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everyone dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead pgpUtfKKNe99j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Free X Server for WinDos
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:23:51PM -0400, Jonathan Markevich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:05:32PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote: The subject says it all. I found MI/X, but that seems not to be free anymore. Isn't there anything that's good *and* free? An older version of MI/X? Try VNC rather than X, unless you're trying to locally serve X apps. X-Win32 looked reasonably nice, I've also used both WRQ Reflection X and Hummingbird Exceed extensively. You'll pay $100-200 for a seat to any of these. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgp45ZK58hnOL.pgp Description: PGP signature
