Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
dave selby wrote:
I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it 
appears not to be supported. 

I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb file to 
enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp.

Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to GIF, and 
some legal stuff about not being able to compress images.

Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp, preferible in 
compress mode as well as de-compress.

Dave


I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the 
patent held by Unisys has expired.

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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +, dave selby wrote:
 I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but
 it appears not to be supported. 
 
 I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb
 file to enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp.
 
 Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to
 GIF, and some legal stuff about not being able to compress images.
 
 Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp,
 preferible in compress mode as well as de-compress.

gimp1.2-nonfree
Description: GIF support for the GNU Image Manipulation Program This
package includes GIF support for The GNU Image Manipulation Program.
These files are not freely available; their use is disallowed by the
UNISYS patent on LZW compression. Use at your own legal risk.


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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +, dave selby wrote:
 I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it 
 appears not to be supported. 

gimp1.3-nonfree
gimp1.2-nonfree

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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Rick Pasotto wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +, dave selby wrote:

I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but
it appears not to be supported. 

I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb
file to enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp.
Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to
GIF, and some legal stuff about not being able to compress images.
Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp,
preferible in compress mode as well as de-compress.


gimp1.2-nonfree
Description: GIF support for the GNU Image Manipulation Program This
package includes GIF support for The GNU Image Manipulation Program.
These files are not freely available; their use is disallowed by the
UNISYS patent on LZW compression. Use at your own legal risk.

jan-jr-ent:~# apt-cache search gimp1.2-nonfree
jan-jr-ent:~#
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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Paul Johnson wrote:
snip
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +, dave selby wrote:

I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it 
appears not to be supported. 


gimp1.3-nonfree
gimp1.2-nonfree
snip

Neither package was found

apt-cache search gimp1.3-nonfree
or
apt-cache search gimp1.2-nonfree
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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 16:27, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:
 Paul Johnson wrote:
 snip
  On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 02:46:35PM +, dave selby wrote:
  
 I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it 
 appears not to be supported. 
  
  
  gimp1.3-nonfree
  gimp1.2-nonfree
  
 snip
 
 Neither package was found
 
 apt-cache search gimp1.3-nonfree
 or
 apt-cache search gimp1.2-nonfree

Check your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that it says something
like

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian yourdist main contrib non-free
  

the non-free part has to be there for you to be able to download this
package.


HTH,



Shri

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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Shri Shrikumar wrote:
snip
Check your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that it says something
like
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian yourdist main contrib non-free
  
the non-free part has to be there for you to be able to download this
package.
HTH,
snip

Doh.

Is it possible to have both non-free and free listed? Would I have to 
have multiple entries for each source?



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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 17:31, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:
 Shri Shrikumar wrote:
 snip
  
  Check your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure that it says something
  like
  
  deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian yourdist main contrib non-free

  
  the non-free part has to be there for you to be able to download this
  package.
  
  
  HTH,
 snip
 
 Doh.
 
 Is it possible to have both non-free and free listed? Would I have to 
 have multiple entries for each source?

just add non-free to the end of your source line. This way, you will
have non free packages added to your package db. I just gave
ftp.debian.org as an example.


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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread dave selby
On Sunday 16 March 2003 15:29, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:
 dave selby wrote:
  I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it
  appears not to be supported.
 
  I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb file
  to enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp.
 
  Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to GIF,
  and some legal stuff about not being able to compress images.
 
  Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp, preferible
  in compress mode as well as de-compress.
 
  Dave

 I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the
 patent held by Unisys has expired.

At least we know where to get a gimp with .GIF now !!

Do you have any more info about the patent, I want to use .GIF for commercial 
work but am wary. 

Dave


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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
dave selby wrote:
On Sunday 16 March 2003 15:29, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:

dave selby wrote:

I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it
appears not to be supported.
I have been on the Gimp mailing list, they suggest I may need a .deb file
to enable it because it is supported in standard Gimp.
Having browsed through aptitude there are a lot of files related to GIF,
and some legal stuff about not being able to compress images.
Does anyone know which .deb to install to enable .GIF on Gimp, preferible
in compress mode as well as de-compress.
Dave
I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the
patent held by Unisys has expired.


At least we know where to get a gimp with .GIF now !!
For sure!

Do you have any more info about the patent, I want to use .GIF for commercial 
work but am wary. 
I had heard this on /. a while back, but nothing since. Believe it or 
not the Unisys site doesn't have much on the patent. The one article 
they do have is outdated (doubly so, I tried emailing the article's 
author but that was returned via the Postmaster). I can certainly see 
how it'd be in Unisys's favor to spread FUD about it's patent.

I just deal without using GIF's (and pray for the day when a plug-in for 
MNG is made for GIMP).

Dave




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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Bob Proulx
 I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it
 appears not to be supported.
 I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the
 patent held by Unisys has expired.

Negative.  At least not yet[1].  The patent does not expire until at
least June 2003.  Looking at my calendar watch I see it is only March.
And there may be other submarine patents in the portfolio which will
only be published once this one is expired.

Patience.

Bob

[1] http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US04558302__


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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread John Hasler
toncho/~ apt-cache show gimp1.2-nonfree
Package: gimp1.2-nonfree
Priority: optional
Section: non-free/graphics
Installed-Size: 49
Maintainer: Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Source: gimp1.2
Version: 1.2.3-2.3
Replaces: gimp1.1-nonfree
Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.5-13), libgimp1.2 (= 1.2.0), libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 
(= 1.2.10-4), xlibs ( 4.1.0)
Conflicts: gimp1.1-nonfree
Filename: pool/non-free/g/gimp1.2/gimp1.2-nonfree_1.2.3-2.3_i386.deb
Size: 23262
MD5sum: 2bff87f671895ea174a540a2d21259f9
Description: GIF support for the GNU Image Manipulation Program
 This package includes GIF support for The GNU Image Manipulation
 Program. These files are not freely available; their use is
 disallowed by the UNISYS patent on LZW compression.
 .
 Use at your own legal risk.
Enhances: gimp1.2

toncho/~ apt-cache show gimp1.3-nonfree
Package: gimp1.3-nonfree
Priority: optional
Section: non-free/graphics
Installed-Size: 340
Maintainer: Ari Pollak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Source: gimp1.3
Version: 1.3.12-5
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (= 1.2.2), libc6 (= 2.3.1-1), libgimp1.3 (= 1.3.12), 
libglib2.0-0 (= 2.2.1), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.2.1), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.2.1)
Filename: pool/non-free/g/gimp1.3/gimp1.3-nonfree_1.3.12-5_i386.deb
Size: 286850
MD5sum: ce9febf8ac900bb5f0b77e208461fb55
Description: GIF support for the GNU Image Manipulation Program
 This package includes GIF support for The GNU Image Manipulation
 Program. These files are not freely available; their use is
 disallowed by the UNISYS patent on LZW compression.
 .
 Use at your own legal risk.

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Re: GIF driver for Gimp ?

2003-03-16 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Bob Proulx wrote:
I am using gimp quite heavily, I need to save files in .GIF format but it
appears not to be supported.
I too am in need of such a plugin, but it was my understanding that the
patent held by Unisys has expired.

Negative.  At least not yet[1].  The patent does not expire until at
least June 2003.  Looking at my calendar watch I see it is only March.
And there may be other submarine patents in the portfolio which will
only be published once this one is expired.
Patience.

Bob

[1] http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US04558302__
Hrm.

So when will the MNG plugin for Gimp be ready again?

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