Re: Gnome desktop environment
On 4/22/23 14:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. *What command is used for an elimination complete?* format c: .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On 4/22/23 17:12, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 23/4/23 04:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop". When you select a desktop install with standard Debian you don't have lot of control over what is installed. And that's even with an advanced install. I assume you are seeing a list of desktops to select from during the install... "standard Debian" (or whatever it's called) is kinda Gnome Lite. it's automatically selected = uncheck that box! Personally I use only Mate but it's riddled with Gnome components that I can't easily remove. For instance the Gnome NetworkManager widget is installed despite me not using NetworkManager and I can't find a way to remove it. I too only use Mate. to be fair Gnome creates a lot of Good packages that are used in almost all desktop environments that are not actually the Gnome Desktop. My Mate has a dozen or two with "gnome" in the package name On other O/S you could (can?) generate a 'packing list' of all the components you wanted to install and use that to build your system. I expect Debian 11 has that ability but it's not something that is immediately obvious. -- Jeremy (Lists)
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On 24/4/23 05:10, Bret Busby wrote: On 4/22/23 14:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. *What command is used for an elimination complete?* format c: as the superuser. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On 23/4/23 03:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. Why? What exactly do you want to achieve? Those two questions should be answered, before you seek a solution, which could otherwise do something that you do not want. " "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 " .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On 4/22/23 14:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. *What command is used for an elimination complete?* I use this command but don't get the effect desired. # apt-get install task-gnome-desktop "install" won't remove. You want "remove" or "purge". But don't even bother uninstalling it (unless you need the drive space); just install a different DE of your preference, and then on your login screen you can choose which DE to use. Install several DEs, and swap between them whenever you feel like. -- Kent
Re: Gnome desktop environment
Jeremy Ardley wrote: ... > Personally I use only Mate but it's riddled with Gnome components that I > can't easily remove. For instance the Gnome NetworkManager widget is > installed despite me not using NetworkManager and I can't find a way to > remove it. > > On other O/S you could (can?) generate a 'packing list' of all the > components you wanted to install and use that to build your system. I > expect Debian 11 has that ability but it's not something that is > immediately obvious. somehow i've been running that way for quite some time on MATE in testing but i may have not installed every bit of a default installation or have removed things so it would go away. some other things i also do not run because i find them annoying. i'm sure i have some extras in here now that i do not really use at all but... here is my current mate- list from dpkg: ii debian-mate-default-settings 1.26.0-1all Default settings for MATE on Debian ii libmate-desktop-2-17:amd64 1.26.0-1amd64 Library with common API for various MATE modules (library) ii libmate-menu2:amd64 1.26.0-3amd64 implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE (library) ii libmate-panel-applet-4-1:amd64 1.27.0-1amd64 library for MATE Panel applets ii libmate-panel-applet-dev 1.27.0-1amd64 library for MATE Panel applets (development files) ii libmate-sensors-applet-plugin0 1.26.0-1amd64 Library for plugins for the mate-sensors-applet package ii libmate-slab0:amd64 1.26.0-2amd64 beautification app library ii libmate-window-settings1:amd64 1.26.0-2amd64 utilities to configure the MATE desktop (window settings library) ii mate-applets 1.26.1-1amd64 Various applets for the MATE panel ii mate-applets-common 1.26.1-1all Various applets for the MATE panel (common files) ii mate-backgrounds 1.26.0-1all Set of backgrounds packaged with the MATE Desktop Environment ii mate-calc1.26.0-1amd64 MATE desktop calculator ii mate-calc-common 1.26.0-1all MATE desktop calculator (common files) ii mate-common 1.26.0-1all common scripts and macros to develop with MATE ii mate-control-center 1.26.0-2amd64 utilities to configure the MATE desktop ii mate-control-center-common 1.26.0-2all utilities to configure the MATE desktop (common files) ii mate-desktop 1.26.0-1amd64 Library with common API for various MATE modules ii mate-desktop-common 1.26.0-1all Library with common API for various MATE modules (common files) ii mate-desktop-environment 1.26.0+1all MATE Desktop Environment (metapackage) ii mate-desktop-environment-core1.26.0+1all MATE Desktop Environment (essential components, metapackage) ii mate-icon-theme 1.26.0-1all MATE Desktop icon theme ii mate-indicator-applet1.26.0-1amd64 MATE panel indicator applet ii mate-indicator-applet-common 1.26.0-1all MATE panel indicator applet (common files) ii mate-media 1.26.0-2amd64 MATE media utilities ii mate-media-common1.26.0-2all MATE media utilities (common files) ii mate-menus 1.26.0-3all implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE ii mate-notification-daemon 1.26.0-1amd64 daemon to display passive popup notifications ii mate-notification-daemon-common 1.26.0-1all daemon to display passive popup notifications (common files) ii mate-panel 1.27.0-1amd64 launcher and docking facility for MATE ii mate-panel-common1.27.0-1all launcher and docking facility for MATE (common files) ii mate-polkit:amd641.26.1-1amd64 MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 ii
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On 23/4/23 04:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop". When you select a desktop install with standard Debian you don't have lot of control over what is installed. And that's even with an advanced install. Personally I use only Mate but it's riddled with Gnome components that I can't easily remove. For instance the Gnome NetworkManager widget is installed despite me not using NetworkManager and I can't find a way to remove it. On other O/S you could (can?) generate a 'packing list' of all the components you wanted to install and use that to build your system. I expect Debian 11 has that ability but it's not something that is immediately obvious. -- Jeremy (Lists)
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 4:49 PM Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On April 22, 2023 12:58:24 PM Mark Fletcher wrote: >> >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 20:53, William Torrez Corea >> wrote: >>> >>> I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. >>> >>> What command is used for an elimination complete? >>> >>> [...] > > In my experience it's gonna be a real mess. Gnome is tenacious. > ...if it doesn't give what you what you _really want_ I suggest a fresh > install with the desktop of choice > Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop". > Best of luck. Yes, this. In fact, you might consider installing a Server edition of the OS, and then adding a Desktop package. There's not much difference between Desktop and Server editions. Servers include things like a web server and ssh server, but lack an integrated desktop. It's a lot easier to remove web servers and ssh servers. Jeff
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On April 22, 2023 12:58:24 PM Mark Fletcher wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 20:53, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. What command is used for an elimination complete? I use this command but don't get the effect desired. # apt-get install task-gnome-desktop Well, to be fair, if you want to remove it, telling it to install it probably isn’t likely to produce the desired effect… You could try using “remove” or “purge” instead but be ready for a lot of applications that depend on Gnome (or at least on a desktop of some sort). So the better approach may be to decide what you want to replace it with, try to install that, and guide the package manager towards uninstalling Gnome as it tries to sort out the mess that creates. In my experience it's gonna be a real mess. Gnome is tenacious. ...if it doesn't give what you what you _really want_ I suggest a fresh install with the desktop of choice Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop". Best of luck. Mark
Re: Gnome desktop environment
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 20:53, William Torrez Corea wrote: > I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. > > *What command is used for an elimination complete?* > > I use this command but don't get the effect desired. > > # apt-get install task-gnome-desktop > > Well, to be fair, if you want to remove it, telling it to install it probably isn’t likely to produce the desired effect… > You could try using “remove” or “purge” instead but be ready for a lot of applications that depend on Gnome (or at least on a desktop of some sort). So the better approach may be to decide what you want to replace it with, try to install that, and guide the package manager towards uninstalling Gnome as it tries to sort out the mess that creates. Mark > > >
Re: Gnome desktop environment removed on Upgrading using synaptic
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 03:38:19PM +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: Hi all, I have Debina Unstable running on my system. I tried to upgrade the system using synaptic from an official debian mirror. When I looked at the list of packages to be removed/installed/upgraded, I found that gnome-desktop-environment was to be removed. I thought the new version might have a replacement for this, so I went ahead with the updates. But, now my system has no desktop environment, and when I try to install gnome-desktop-environment, it says that it can't install since gnomemeeting is uninstallable. When I tried to install gnomemeeting, it says that it can't install because it depends on libopenh323-1.18.0 which is uninstallable. When I tried to look for the package libopen323 version 1.18.0, it is nowhere to be found. The current version available for this package is 1.15.6. Can anybody give me some idea how should I go about installing gnome-desktop-environment. Also, why are there dependcies of packages that have not yet been put into the repository. Hi Abhishek, from time to time, all the required packages for (in this case) gnome are not avaiable when you last did a 'apt-get update'. This should be remidieded in the near future, this is just expected behavior for the unstable branch of Debian. So, wait a few days and 'apt-get update' and try again. For more immediate and up-to-date info, try installing irrsi-text or some other irc client and chat in #debian. Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Gnome desktop environment removed on Upgrading using synaptic
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 05:29:08AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 03:38:19PM +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: Hi all, I have Debina Unstable running on my system. I tried to upgrade the system using synaptic from an official debian mirror. When I looked at the list of packages to be removed/installed/upgraded, I found that gnome-desktop-environment was to be removed. I thought the new version might have a replacement for this, so I went ahead with the updates. But, now my system has no desktop environment, and when I try to install gnome-desktop-environment, it says that it can't install since gnomemeeting is uninstallable. When I tried to install gnomemeeting, it says that it can't install because it depends on libopenh323-1.18.0 which is uninstallable. When I tried to look for the package libopen323 version 1.18.0, it is nowhere to be found. The current version available for this package is 1.15.6. Can anybody give me some idea how should I go about installing gnome-desktop-environment. Also, why are there dependcies of packages that have not yet been put into the repository. Hi Abhishek, from time to time, all the required packages for (in this case) gnome are not avaiable when you last did a 'apt-get update'. This should be remidieded in the near future, this is just expected behavior for the unstable branch of Debian. So, wait a few days and 'apt-get update' and try again. For more immediate and up-to-date info, try installing irrsi-text or some other irc client and chat in #debian. This particular problem seems to be related to gnomemetting requireing a package that isn't available anymore. It's been like this for well over a week already. Bug #353844. I did the same thing as the original poster but I managed to get parts back by selectively downgrading a few packages to testing. /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://therning.org/magnus Software is not manufactured, it is something you write and publish. Keep Europe free from software patents, we do not want censorship by patent law on written works. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -- Albert Einstein pgpJqowE2V3dz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome desktop environment removed on Upgrading using synaptic
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 15:38 +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: But, now my system has no desktop environment, and when I try to install gnome-desktop-environment, it says that it can't install since gnomemeeting is uninstallable. When I tried to install gnomemeeting, it says that it can't install because it depends on libopenh323-1.18.0 which is uninstallable. When I tried to look for the package libopen323 version 1.18.0, it is nowhere to be found. The current version available for this package is 1.15.6. Install this missing file using dpkg -i and all will be installable again: http://people.debian.org/~kilian/pkg-voip/libopenh323-1.18.0_1.17.4-1_i386.deb And here is how I fished for this information: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=353844 And here is the status of the above package in the ftpmaster's queue: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html -- Jason Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
