Re: Re: Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-29 Thread Curtis Tyndall

I tried running xdpyinfo | grep reso and got the the following:
   dots per inch 89x89

I have no idea what that exactly means.  But I would really like to be 
able to get this fixed up so that I have the proper resolution.


I don't know if I mentioned previously, but the video on my motherboard 
is an ATI Radeon HD3200.


I tried googling the 89x89 dpi, but that shows that the resolution is 
like 1280x800.  Just not sure how to correct this.


Curtis


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Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,29.Jun.09, 08:11:50, Curtis Tyndall wrote:
 I tried running xdpyinfo | grep reso and got the the following:
dots per inch 89x89

BIG OOUPS, should have been

$ xpdyinfo | grep dime

Sorry for that. In the meantime I have access to a Lenny machine where I 
had to customize xorg.conf for exactly the same reason (monitor not 
recognized). The relevant sections:

Section Monitor
Identifier  Configured Monitor
# horizontal sync range from the monitors specs
HorizSync   30 - 83
# vertical refresh range from the monitors specs
VertRefresh 56 - 75
# size in milimeters
DisplaySize 375 300
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Monitor Configured Monitor
Subsection Display
   # The desired resolutions, should be the
   # native resolution for LCD monitors
   Modes   1280x1024
EndSubsection
EndSection


Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-26 Thread Curtis Tyndall
I tried adjusting the buttons on the monitor itself, however, what I 
noticed was in the info on one of the monitor buttons was reading the 
display as 1280x800, and the setting in display settings was showing 
1440x900.  But if I try and change the setting in debian for a different 
resolution, I'm always getting a no connection or input not 
supported showing on my screen.


So, it still seems like Debian is not grabbing the proper resolution of 
the monitor.  If there is anyone else that has more knowledge of xorg 
and could help me fix this problem, it would be greatly appreciated.  
Since I have no idea how to properly edit the xorg.conf file.  I would 
need a step-by-step instruction on what to add and where to add it.  The 
monitor again is an Acer x193w (native resolution is 1440x...@60hz).


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Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,26.Jun.09, 08:24:04, Curtis Tyndall wrote:
 I tried adjusting the buttons on the monitor itself, however, what I
 noticed was in the info on one of the monitor buttons was reading
 the display as 1280x800, and the setting in display settings was
 showing 1440x900.  But if I try and change the setting in debian for
 a different resolution, I'm always getting a no connection or
 input not supported showing on my screen.
 
 So, it still seems like Debian is not grabbing the proper resolution
 of the monitor.  If there is anyone else that has more knowledge of
 xorg and could help me fix this problem, it would be greatly
 appreciated.  Since I have no idea how to properly edit the
 xorg.conf file.  I would need a step-by-step instruction on what to
 add and where to add it.  The monitor again is an Acer x193w (native
 resolution is 1440x...@60hz).

The minimum you need to specify are the HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges 
in the Monitor section. You should be able to find those in the manual 
for your monitor.  See 'man xorg.conf' for details on how to add them.

Regards,
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Re: Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-26 Thread Curtis Tyndall
I understand what you are saying, but why would the monitor say its 
resolution is 1280x800 and Debian is saying that it is 1440x900?  Does 
adding the HorizSync and the VertRefresh help fix this issue?


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Re: Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,26.Jun.09, 11:02:25, Curtis Tyndall wrote:
 I understand what you are saying, but why would the monitor say its
 resolution is 1280x800 and Debian is saying that it is 1440x900?

I don't trust frontends to much. What do you get from:

$ xdpyinfo | grep reso

?

 Does adding the HorizSync and the VertRefresh help fix this issue?

Well, at least one of them is wrong, but you can't change anything in 
the monitor ;)

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Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-24 Thread Curtis Tyndall
I use just an analog cable (no DVI on monitor).  I will try playing with 
the buttons on the monitor and see what happens and report back.


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Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-24 Thread Tom Furie
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 07:56:28AM -0500, Curtis Tyndall wrote:

 I use just an analog cable (no DVI on monitor).  I will try playing with  
 the buttons on the monitor and see what happens and report back.

That's nice. What does it refer to?

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Re: Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-23 Thread Curtis Tyndall
I was able to get the interface to stop crashing everytime it tried to 
load.  My work computer is working great now.  However, my home 
computer, I can get to the desktop and the screen resolution/sync is set 
properly, but the issue is that now about an inch of the right/bottom of 
the screen is off the screen (like the desktop is stretched).  It seems 
like debian is not recognizing that my monitor is a widescreen (acer 
x193w, 1440x900 resolution).  Is there a way to correct that?


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Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-23 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:03:57 -0500
schrieb Curtis Tyndall curt...@hytekmb.com:

 I was able to get the interface to stop crashing everytime it tried
 to load.  My work computer is working great now.  However, my home 
 computer, I can get to the desktop and the screen resolution/sync is
 set properly, but the issue is that now about an inch of the
 right/bottom of the screen is off the screen (like the desktop is
 stretched).  It seems like debian is not recognizing that my monitor
 is a widescreen (acer x193w, 1440x900 resolution).  Is there a way to
 correct that?

Do you use a DVI cable? If you are using an analog cable, you may have
to configure the monitor itself using those small buttons and on-screen
display.

If that doesn't help, you need someone with more Xorg knowledge than
me, I only configured resolution and sync, more was never necessary.


 Curtis

Andreas


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Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-22 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:06:11 -0500
schrieb Curtis Tyndall curt...@hytekmb.com:

 I have recently installed Debian 5.01 Lenny on my machine.  I used a 
 network mirror during the installation.  However, during the initial 
 boot after the installation, my graphical interface always crashes
 right before the login screen.  I have tried GDM, KDM and XDM for the 
 interfaces, and all of them do the same thing.  Howerver, a friend of 
 mine uses the exact same motherboard and processor, but a different
 ATI video card, he can do a full install with absolutely no problems.
 
 My system specs are:
 
 Intel Quad-Core Q6700
 4 GB Ram
 VisionTek Radeon HD2600 XT
 Asus P5N-D Motherboard
 
 However, if I do just a basic install (no Desktop selected), and 
 manually install xserver-xorg-core, kdm and XFCE.  Everything works
 like a charm.  I would just prefer to not have to manually add all
 the programs that I want to use, since I am fairly new to Debian.
 
 On a second note,  my home computer when I do a full desktop install
 and when I do the reboot after the installation, as soon as the
 graphical interface wants to load, I keep getting a Input Not
 Supported on my screen.  This happens when I use either the onboard
 video or a seperate video card.  When I do a manually install as
 stated above (xorg, kdm, xfce), I can change the screen resolution to
 1440x900 @ 75 hz.  However, the sync rate is 15 to high (monitor is
 rated at 60 hz for sync).  My home specs are:

The monitor seems to be reporting the wrong parameters via DPMS. I
googled and found this:

http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup/browse_thread/thread/4064612fda01838b

'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' should ask for the resolution and sync
rates.

 AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition
 Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-UD2H w/Radeon HD3200 video
 4 GB Ram
 BFG nVidia 9400GT OC
 Acer x193w monitor (1440x900 @ 60hz)
 
 Any help on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated.

Andreas


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Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-22 Thread Lachlan
2009/6/23 Andreas Juch debian-u...@juch.cc:
 Am Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:06:11 -0500
 schrieb Curtis Tyndall curt...@hytekmb.com:

 I have recently installed Debian 5.01 Lenny on my machine.  I used a
 network mirror during the installation.  However, during the initial
 boot after the installation, my graphical interface always crashes
 right before the login screen.  I have tried GDM, KDM and XDM for the
 interfaces, and all of them do the same thing.  Howerver, a friend of
 mine uses the exact same motherboard and processor, but a different
 ATI video card, he can do a full install with absolutely no problems.

i had a lot of trouble in lenny with my HD3870 especially if i didn't
use the proprietary driver (google ati linux driver if you don't have
it)

boot into single user mode and set your xorg to use the vesa driver.
that way you can use your desktop and then look at whether
fglrx/radeon/radeonhd will work with your card.

the fglrx driver that worked best for me was 8.6 on lenny. (google
should help getting older drivers.)

if a driver has been set in xorg.conf you can also comment it out and
see if the xseerver will pick the correct driver, i can't remember if
x was very good at that with lenny.

 My system specs are:

 Intel Quad-Core Q6700
 4 GB Ram
 VisionTek Radeon HD2600 XT
 Asus P5N-D Motherboard

 However, if I do just a basic install (no Desktop selected), and
 manually install xserver-xorg-core, kdm and XFCE.  Everything works
 like a charm.  I would just prefer to not have to manually add all
 the programs that I want to use, since I am fairly new to Debian.

 On a second note,  my home computer when I do a full desktop install
 and when I do the reboot after the installation, as soon as the
 graphical interface wants to load, I keep getting a Input Not
 Supported on my screen.  This happens when I use either the onboard
 video or a seperate video card.  When I do a manually install as
 stated above (xorg, kdm, xfce), I can change the screen resolution to
 1440x900 @ 75 hz.  However, the sync rate is 15 to high (monitor is
 rated at 60 hz for sync).  My home specs are:

 The monitor seems to be reporting the wrong parameters via DPMS. I
 googled and found this:

 http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup/browse_thread/thread/4064612fda01838b

 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' should ask for the resolution and sync
 rates.

 AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition
 Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-UD2H w/Radeon HD3200 video
 4 GB Ram
 BFG nVidia 9400GT OC
 Acer x193w monitor (1440x900 @ 60hz)

 Any help on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated.

 Andreas



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Re: Graphical Interface Crashes

2009-06-22 Thread Andreas Juch
Am Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:21:20 +1000
schrieb Lachlan lachlan...@gmail.com:

 i had a lot of trouble in lenny with my HD3870 especially if i didn't
 use the proprietary driver (google ati linux driver if you don't have
 it)

I (Radeon HD 3450) had a lot of trouble with the proprietary drivers.
Suspend to RAM resulted in a crash. Opening kaffeine resulted in a
crash. Compiling a new kernel resulted in no graphics at all.

I'm done with the proprietary driver and am using the latest
git-version of xf84-video-ati with xserver 1.6.1. Now I know what
stability really means. 3D is missing right now, but mesa will have
r600/r700 support in version 7.6, it's just a matter of time.

 boot into single user mode and set your xorg to use the vesa driver.
 that way you can use your desktop and then look at whether
 fglrx/radeon/radeonhd will work with your card.
 
 the fglrx driver that worked best for me was 8.6 on lenny. (google
 should help getting older drivers.)
 
 if a driver has been set in xorg.conf you can also comment it out and
 see if the xseerver will pick the correct driver, i can't remember if
 x was very good at that with lenny.

If the proprietary drivers are installed no 3D acceleleration is
possible in other drivers due to ATIs own libGL1.so.

Andreas


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