Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
On Sunday 04 October 2015 16:17:24 Richard Owlett wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 04 October 2015 15:41:37 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> It may address the > >> one thing I've found most annoying while trying to move to Linux. > >> Users [*PLURAL*] and Groups [*PLURAL*] may make sense in a > >> universe of mainframes. Not so much in a setting where only one > >> individual has access. > > > > It makes sense in lots of situations, real life ones for schools, > > colleges, workplaces, families, single users attached to the Internet. > > You can always achieve what you seem to want by always running as root. > > So LInux can do what you want fine. Let it also do what others > > want/need. > > I don't always wish to "swat flies with 100mm cannon". > Or as old saying cautions "When all you have is a hammer, > everything looks like a nail." Then stop moaning. Linux is a multi-user operating system. It always has been. Why should it change totally to suit you? And anyway, root access is what you are saying you want. So why not use it? What disadvantages would it have in your scenario? You want "everyone" to be able to do everything. Lisi
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
Brian wrote: On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 17:11:32 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Brian wrote: I see what you mean. Try gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false "apparently" works *NOTE BENE* the quotation marks I ran one DVD am now running a second Successfully, we expect. I'll have to go back and redo from scratch. Just spent a week in bed with stomach bug. Don't recall some of the side issues I was dealing with. HOWEVER I suspect I've made system wide changes without being asked for root permission Policykit will take care of privileges. Nothing to worry about. Hadn't done any previous reading on Policykit. It may address the one thing I've found most annoying while trying to move to Linux. Users [*PLURAL*] and Groups [*PLURAL*] may make sense in a universe of mainframes. Not so much in a setting where only one individual has access. I have one machine that has no network access whatsoever (let alone internet) - going to lengths to protect it from external "threats" can become ludicrous. *ALSO* it affected BOTH flash drives and CDs Indeed. Is is worth digging into udisks and udev to handle CDs and USB differently when a left or right click of the mouse does mounting so quickly? Quite possibly. Remember the "P" in PC stands for Personal. YMMV ;) http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=gsettings+=0=0=Debian+8+jessie=html=en *NOT* informative Nothing to fret about if the easier route is taken: System Tools/dconf Editor/org/mate/desktop/media-handling Front ends are nice, but I want to understand what's under the hood. It also does not address pre-systemd I don't follow that. I had had the impression that D-bus was inherently part of systemd. Just had an interesting read through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ [even mentions a Windows port ;].
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
On Sunday 04 October 2015 15:41:37 Richard Owlett wrote: > It may address the > one thing I've found most annoying while trying to move to Linux. > Users [*PLURAL*] and Groups [*PLURAL*] may make sense in a > universe of mainframes. Not so much in a setting where only one > individual has access. It makes sense in lots of situations, real life ones for schools, colleges, workplaces, families, single users attached to the Internet. You can always achieve what you seem to want by always running as root. So LInux can do what you want fine. Let it also do what others want/need. Lisi
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 04 October 2015 15:41:37 Richard Owlett wrote: It may address the one thing I've found most annoying while trying to move to Linux. Users [*PLURAL*] and Groups [*PLURAL*] may make sense in a universe of mainframes. Not so much in a setting where only one individual has access. It makes sense in lots of situations, real life ones for schools, colleges, workplaces, families, single users attached to the Internet. You can always achieve what you seem to want by always running as root. So LInux can do what you want fine. Let it also do what others want/need. I don't always wish to "swat flies with 100mm cannon". Or as old saying cautions "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 04 October 2015 16:17:24 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 04 October 2015 15:41:37 Richard Owlett wrote: It may address the one thing I've found most annoying while trying to move to Linux. Users [*PLURAL*] and Groups [*PLURAL*] may make sense in a universe of mainframes. Not so much in a setting where only one individual has access. It makes sense in lots of situations, real life ones for schools, colleges, workplaces, families, single users attached to the Internet. You can always achieve what you seem to want by always running as root. So LInux can do what you want fine. Let it also do what others want/need. I don't always wish to "swat flies with 100mm cannon". Or as old saying cautions "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." Then stop moaning. Linux is a multi-user operating system. It always has been. Why should it change totally to suit you? And anyway, root access is what you are saying you want. So why not use it? What disadvantages would it have in your scenario? You want "everyone" to be able to do everything. You missed my point. I had said: "Hadn't done any previous reading on Policykit. It may address the one thing I've found most annoying while trying to move to Linux." Obviously stating that Debian apparently had a solution for my percieved problem.
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 17:11:32 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > >I see what you mean. > > > >Try > > > > gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false > > > > "apparently" works > *NOTE BENE* the quotation marks > I ran one DVD > am now running a second Successfully, we expect. > HOWEVER I suspect I've made system wide changes without being asked for root > permission Policykit will take care of privileges. Nothing to worry about. > *ALSO* it affected BOTH flash drives and CDs Indeed. Is is worth digging into udisks and udev to handle CDs and USB differently when a left or right click of the mouse does mounting so quickly? > http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=gsettings+=0=0=Debian+8+jessie=html=en > *NOT* informative Nothing to fret about if the easier route is taken: System Tools/dconf Editor/org/mate/desktop/media-handling > It also does not address pre-systemd I don't follow that.
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
Brian wrote: On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem. That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount before I can proceed. /etc/fstab has noauto under options. Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5) noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time) Where else should I look. I would prefer to disable on a per session basis. Total disabling is acceptable. Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you are using. I'm using Debian 8.0 with Mate as DE. There have been no updates installed as internet is not physically available to that machine. I went to Applications->System Tools->Caja then to Edit->Preferences which displayed "File Management Preferences" chose Media selected "Never prompt or start program on media insertion" deselected "Browse media when inserted" It still mounts everything :< Anything else?
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
... >>> Jessie ... automatically mounts the cdrom drive >>> every time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually >>> run umount before I can proceed. I have a similar experience when plugging in an external USB drive. I wish to mount each of several drives at a particular mount point which is unique to the drive, and not at the next available generic mount point "/dev/usb..." And the fact that I have connected a USB drive does not mean that I wish to mount it. RLH
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem. > That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every > time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount > before I can proceed. > > /etc/fstab has noauto under options. Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5) noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time) > Where else should I look. > I would prefer to disable on a per session basis. > Total disabling is acceptable. Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you are using.
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
Brian wrote: On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 11:27:46 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Brian wrote: On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem. That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount before I can proceed. /etc/fstab has noauto under options. Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5) noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time) Where else should I look. I would prefer to disable on a per session basis. Total disabling is acceptable. Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you are using. I'm using Debian 8.0 with Mate as DE. There have been no updates installed as internet is not physically available to that machine. Updates wouldn't matter because they would not (or should not) alter such a fundamental process. I went to Applications->System Tools->Caja then to Edit->Preferences which displayed "File Management Preferences" chose Media selected "Never prompt or start program on media insertion" deselected "Browse media when inserted" Very useful. I think the deselection just stops the CD's contents being displayed when the CD tray is closed and doesn't affect automounting. It still mounts everything :< I see what you mean. Try gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false "apparently" works *NOTE BENE* the quotation marks I ran one DVD am now running a second HOWEVER I suspect I've made system wide changes without being asked for root permission *ALSO* it affected BOTH flash drives and CDs http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=gsettings+=0=0=Debian+8+jessie=html=en *NOT* informative It also does not address pre-systemd
Re: How to disable automatic mounting of CDROM?
On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 11:27:46 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: > >On Sat 26 Sep 2015 at 09:13:27 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >>I'm trying to troubleshoot a problem. > >>That Jessie (and IIRC Squeeze) automatically mount the cdrom drive every > >>time the drawer is closed is a nuisance requiring to manually run umount > >>before I can proceed. > >> > >>/etc/fstab has noauto under options. > > > >Probably nothing to do with your problem. From fstab(5) > > > > noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time) > > > >>Where else should I look. > >>I would prefer to disable on a per session basis. > >>Total disabling is acceptable. > > > >Automounting is usually handled by the file manager of whatever DE you > >are using. > > > > I'm using Debian 8.0 with Mate as DE. There have been no updates installed > as internet is not physically available to that machine. Updates wouldn't matter because they would not (or should not) alter such a fundamental process. > I went to > Applications->System Tools->Caja then to > Edit->Preferences which displayed "File Management Preferences" > chose Media > selected "Never prompt or start program on media insertion" > deselected "Browse media when inserted" Very useful. I think the deselection just stops the CD's contents being displayed when the CD tray is closed and doesn't affect automounting. > It still mounts everything :< I see what you mean. Try gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false
