Re: Installing from businesscard ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Curt Howland
One point on the NetInstall and BusinessCard images, they do NOT work
unless connected to the 'Net.

Up through Woody, those images would install a minimal system. But not
now, they error when there is no 'Net connection and will not continue
the install.

So for non-networked installs, CD#1of Gnome, KDE or Xfce flavors are a
minimum. Make it easy on yourself and get a DVD#1.


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Re: Installing from businesscard ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Disc Magnet  wrote:
[snip]
> Why do you say that CD1 would be useful if we don't have a net
> connection. It seems that the netinstall can install a base system as
> well. I hope netinstall would install a system with the basic tools
> like ls, aptitude, vim, etc. If so, netinstall is good enough to setup
> a minimal install and download the remaining packages from internet
> whenever I need using aptitude. Am I right?

you are right.
CD1 was mentioned because Greg presumed that maybe your internet
connection is limited during your installation. with CD1 as a local
repository, you can boot your system with the businesscard image, and
install all the popular packages without connecting to the internet.

if the base system is what you want to begin with, and there's no
problem with the internet connection, both netinst and businesscard
iso will do it. just remember to uncheck all the additional packages
during the installation.


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Re: Installing from businesscard ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 20. 06. 2010 13:03:59 je Disc Magnet napisal(a):

If I install Debian from a businesscard ISOs, what am I going to miss
as far as software and packages are concerned? Or does it work like a
normal CD-1 iso install because it pulls down everything required from
the Internet?


The latter.



Is there a way to prevent it from connecting to the internet


Just disconnect the ethernet cable.


and in
that case what would I miss?



Haven't tried that yet. I suppose you'd miss quite a lot though; a  
DVD-1 iso would be your best bet in this case.


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Re: Installing from businesscard ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Michael Tsang
On Sunday 20 June 2010 19:53:42 Disc Magnet wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Greg Madden  wrote:
> > The business card iso does not have  much, it sets up a network
> > connection and downloads everything..so you need a net connection. The
> > netinstall iso has the base system on it so you have a minimal install
> > to work with, none of the 'standard' set of packages no X. So CD1 would
> > be useful if you don't have a net connection.
> 
> Thanks for your explanations, Greg and Michael. It was lucid and very
> helpful. I have one more question, Greg.
> 
> Why do you say that CD1 would be useful if we don't have a net
> connection. It seems that the netinstall can install a base system as
> well. I hope netinstall would install a system with the basic tools
> like ls, aptitude, vim, etc. If so, netinstall is good enough to setup
> a minimal install and download the remaining packages from internet
> whenever I need using aptitude. Am I right?
The netinstall CD *does* contain the base system and aptitude but it does not 
contain vim, etc. so you need to connect to the Internet to install useful 
packages after installing the base system.
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Re: Installing from businesscard ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Disc Magnet
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Greg Madden  wrote:
>
> The business card iso does not have  much, it sets up a network connection and
> downloads everything..so you need a net connection. The netinstall iso has
> the base system on it so you have a minimal install to work with, none of
> the 'standard' set of packages no X. So CD1 would be useful if you don't have
> a net connection.
>

Thanks for your explanations, Greg and Michael. It was lucid and very
helpful. I have one more question, Greg.

Why do you say that CD1 would be useful if we don't have a net
connection. It seems that the netinstall can install a base system as
well. I hope netinstall would install a system with the basic tools
like ls, aptitude, vim, etc. If so, netinstall is good enough to setup
a minimal install and download the remaining packages from internet
whenever I need using aptitude. Am I right?


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Re: Installing from businesscard ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 20 June 2010 03:03:59 Disc Magnet wrote:
> If I install Debian from a businesscard ISOs, what am I going to miss
> as far as software and packages are concerned? Or does it work like a
> normal CD-1 iso install because it pulls down everything required from
> the Internet?
>
> Is there a way to prevent it from connecting to the internet and in
> that case what would I miss?

The business card iso does not have  much, it sets up a network connection and 
downloads everything..so you need a net connection. The netinstall iso has 
the base system on it so you have a minimal install to work with, none of 
the 'standard' set of packages no X. So CD1 would be useful if you don't have 
a net connection.

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Re: Installing from businesscard ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Michael Tsang
On Sunday 20 June 2010 19:03:59 Disc Magnet wrote:
> If I install Debian from a businesscard ISOs, what am I going to miss
> as far as software and packages are concerned? Or does it work like a
> normal CD-1 iso install because it pulls down everything required from
> the Internet?
> 
> Is there a way to prevent it from connecting to the internet and in
> that case what would I miss?

That 40 MB image contains the installer and the installer components (such as 
disk modules, etc). It does not contain the base system so you must connect to 
the Internet to install Debian. It differs from the netinst image as it does 
not contain the base system. The mini image is even smaller without the 
installer components so that you must connect to the Internet even to rescue 
the system.
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