Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-29 Thread Maciej Kalisiak
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 07:14:14AM -0400, Peter Fedichev wrote:
 I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
 you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?

Hi,

I've installed the 2.0-final debs of kdyc (see other posts on what apt.sources
line to use).  I've got everything running almost completely stable, other
than a very occasional crash of Konqueror (only happened twice so far), and
klipper dying when you highlight stuff in Netscape (it's a known KDE bug).  I
found that some packages, such as kdenetwork, are obsolete now, and you should
install the packages it was broken down into (knode and kmail, in this case).
The obsolete package has apps that crash, the newer packages work fine.
Probably the best thing to do is to install the virtual package 'task-kde',
which will install a whole slew of packages and give you a proper KDE setup.
You still might have to install some KDE packages you want that it missed, but
in general I've gotten the best results that way.

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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Anthony Fox
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Peter Fedichev wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
 you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?
 
 Thanks in advance
 

I apt-got kde2 debs from http://kde.tdyc.com.  It installed without a
hitch on my potato box.  The appropriate line in your sources.list file is

deb http://kde.tdyc.potato kde2

kde2 is another story though.  kde2 apps seem to be crashing on me left
and right.  Within 5 min of starting up, the little kde2 clipboard app
crashes and pops up an annoying segfault warning window.  Then, every time
I exit an app from within the kde2 window manager (i.e. kde2 and non-kde2
apps), I get the annoying segfault warning window explaining to me that
the app crashed.

Is anyone else experiencing these same problems?  



Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Manegold
Anthony Fox wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Peter Fedichev wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
  you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
 
 I apt-got kde2 debs from http://kde.tdyc.com.  It installed without a
 hitch on my potato box.  The appropriate line in your sources.list file is
 
 deb http://kde.tdyc.potato kde2
 
 kde2 is another story though.  kde2 apps seem to be crashing on me left
 and right.  Within 5 min of starting up, the little kde2 clipboard app
 crashes and pops up an annoying segfault warning window.  Then, every time
 I exit an app from within the kde2 window manager (i.e. kde2 and non-kde2
 apps), I get the annoying segfault warning window explaining to me that
 the app crashed.
 
 Is anyone else experiencing these same problems?

Yep same here. konqueror sometimes won't even start without segfault.
After waiting a while it suddenly does. Even though its not stable.



Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread romeu

I am experiencing KDE2 crashes, too.  I got a few crashes in the Control
Center.
It looks like win. At least, you can kill the app without rebooting.
Hope they fix these problems.




Anthony Fox wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Peter Fedichev wrote:

  Hello,
 
  I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
  you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?
 
  Thanks in advance
 

 I apt-got kde2 debs from http://kde.tdyc.com.  It installed without a
 hitch on my potato box.  The appropriate line in your sources.list file
is

 deb http://kde.tdyc.potato kde2

 kde2 is another story though.  kde2 apps seem to be crashing on me left
 and right.  Within 5 min of starting up, the little kde2 clipboard app
 crashes and pops up an annoying segfault warning window.  Then, every
time
 I exit an app from within the kde2 window manager (i.e. kde2 and non-kde2
 apps), I get the annoying segfault warning window explaining to me that
 the app crashed.

 Is anyone else experiencing these same problems?

Yep same here. konqueror sometimes won't even start without segfault.
After waiting a while it suddenly does. Even though its not stable.


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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Anthony Fox wrote:

 kde2 is another story though.  kde2 apps seem to be crashing on me left
 and right.  Within 5 min of starting up, the little kde2 clipboard app
 crashes and pops up an annoying segfault warning window.  Then, every time
 I exit an app from within the kde2 window manager (i.e. kde2 and non-kde2
 apps), I get the annoying segfault warning window explaining to me that
 the app crashed.
 
 Is anyone else experiencing these same problems?  
 

very similar here!

my klipper also crash very soon after starting kde2.
konqueror also crash easily, though I was not able to track exactly what
operations cause it.

I'm using kde2 as my desktop, but only using few apps from kde. Even the
terminal (konsole) is unusable for me as I couldn't manage it to accept
dead keys, already configured in X (all apps can use but konsole).

It's a nice desktop but too slow in my old p133 with ~48MB RAM. 
WindowMaker does fly here!

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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Jeff Green
I've had rather better luck, KDE2 went straight onto my storm box with
the exception of the sign-on box at the beginning needing to change
which system to pick, konqueror won't run Java stuff but that apart
seems nice and stable.
Jeff

Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
 
 On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Anthony Fox wrote:
 
  kde2 is another story though.  kde2 apps seem to be crashing on me left
  and right.  Within 5 min of starting up, the little kde2 clipboard app
  crashes and pops up an annoying segfault warning window.  Then, every time
  I exit an app from within the kde2 window manager (i.e. kde2 and non-kde2
  apps), I get the annoying segfault warning window explaining to me that
  the app crashed.
 
  Is anyone else experiencing these same problems?
 
 
 very similar here!
 
 my klipper also crash very soon after starting kde2.
 konqueror also crash easily, though I was not able to track exactly what
 operations cause it.
 
 I'm using kde2 as my desktop, but only using few apps from kde. Even the
 terminal (konsole) is unusable for me as I couldn't manage it to accept
 dead keys, already configured in X (all apps can use but konsole).
 
 It's a nice desktop but too slow in my old p133 with ~48MB RAM.
 WindowMaker does fly here!
 
 []s
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 IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
 http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Todd_La_Pittus


I just completed installing the other day- works great!

//Todd

P.S.  Needed to change my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody's unstable
stuff instead of the stable archives...






Peter Fedichev [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/27/2000 04:14:14 AM

Sent by:  Peter Fedichev [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject:  KDE2 dependence problem



Hello,

I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?

Thanks in advance


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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Todd_La_Pittus


I am having similar problems, but not as frequently as you are.

Backtracing the fault provides no information, either.

//Todd




Anthony Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/27/2000 02:08:44 AM

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Subject:  Re: KDE2 dependence problem



On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Peter Fedichev wrote:

 Hello,

 I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
 you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?

 Thanks in advance


I apt-got kde2 debs from http://kde.tdyc.com.  It installed without a
hitch on my potato box.  The appropriate line in your sources.list file is

deb http://kde.tdyc.potato kde2

kde2 is another story though.  kde2 apps seem to be crashing on me left
and right.  Within 5 min of starting up, the little kde2 clipboard app
crashes and pops up an annoying segfault warning window.  Then, every time
I exit an app from within the kde2 window manager (i.e. kde2 and non-kde2
apps), I get the annoying segfault warning window explaining to me that
the app crashed.

Is anyone else experiencing these same problems?


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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Peter Fedichev wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
 you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?
 
 Thanks in advance
 

libgl1 is a virtual package, provided by several conflicting variants of
the mesa library (an OpenGL clone). Unless you have very special video
hardware or use the experimental XFree 4, you'll want to install mesag3.

HTH,


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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Kristian Rink
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:49:13 +0200 (MEST)
Bjoern Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 libgl1 is a virtual package, provided by several conflicting variants of
 the mesa library (an OpenGL clone). Unless you have very special video
 hardware or use the experimental XFree 4, you'll want to install mesag3.

Talking about this: I managed to install KDE2 without problems, and was running 
pretty nice on X3.3.6 and Mesa3, but now, after installing the utah-glx 
packages for TNT2-chipset, I can't even get this KDE stuff started anymore, 
seems that the qt library bails out with an error complaining about a wrong 
(?) libgl1 - library which is provided by the utah-glx package... Has anybody 
any idea of how to get along with this? :))

TIA... Regards,
Kris

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Re: KDE2 dependence problem

2000-10-27 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Peter Fedichev, 
 I have seen a couple of I have installed KDE2 reports here. How have
 you managed, since .debs on ftp.kde.org seem to require libgl1?

I used the following line in my apt sources.list

deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde2

Then I did an apt-get install on all the task-kde-* packages (if you go
a grep ^Package: task-kde on the packages file you'll see what they all
are). I didn't need to install anything from unstable.

I'm a helix-gnome user at heart, but I'd heard a lot about the new kde
so I thought I'd try it out. It looks cool, but is not the most stable
thing in the world. While I don't think anything crashed while I was
using it, konquerer always produced a segfault dialog box on exit.

All flames aside, on debian potato, helix gnome seems to be a lot more
stable at the moment.

cheers,

damon

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