Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
First of all I would like to say your kernel is qoute ols, my suggestion: compile a new one! I will take that under advisement. I don't normally like to reinvent the weel just to get a new hubcap though . I know a little dramatic, but if it ain't broke, why fix it? Is there something wrong with the 2.0.36 kernel that I should know about? Second (more towards your problem) is why you can't open more than 1 x11amp application, my guess is that when you open one, it takes your soundcard (simply because it needs it to function...), when you open a seconds (by the way: Why do you want to???!) The reason I discovered this problem is not because I wanted to run more than a single instance of the same program, but because I was trying to run other programs (gmc, gnome-napster) that wanted to use it concurently and could not, even though I wasn't using the sound when running them. Moreover, I found that once I had started one of these other programs, I was unable to run x11amp after they had run, or if I had shut down x11amp, ran the other program and then tried to restart x11amp, it wouldn't run. a bit more to the point: Your soundcard can't be shared OR linux can't share your soundcard. One device per program? No time sharing? That's a little neolithic, don't you think? Am I missing something here? Oswald mentioned that the xmms program might work better. Does anyone know if x11amp is still being maintained? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
xllamp became xmms didn't it? and as for sharing, neither my sb16 no awe32 allow sharing, only when i recently upgraded to an awe64 could i get system sounds while playing mp3's. Peter. Eric Hagglund wrote: First of all I would like to say your kernel is qoute ols, my suggestion: compile a new one! I will take that under advisement. I don't normally like to reinvent the weel just to get a new hubcap though . I know a little dramatic, but if it ain't broke, why fix it? Is there something wrong with the 2.0.36 kernel that I should know about? Second (more towards your problem) is why you can't open more than 1 x11amp application, my guess is that when you open one, it takes your soundcard (simply because it needs it to function...), when you open a seconds (by the way: Why do you want to???!) The reason I discovered this problem is not because I wanted to run more than a single instance of the same program, but because I was trying to run other programs (gmc, gnome-napster) that wanted to use it concurently and could not, even though I wasn't using the sound when running them. Moreover, I found that once I had started one of these other programs, I was unable to run x11amp after they had run, or if I had shut down x11amp, ran the other program and then tried to restart x11amp, it wouldn't run. a bit more to the point: Your soundcard can't be shared OR linux can't share your soundcard. One device per program? No time sharing? That's a little neolithic, don't you think? Am I missing something here? Oswald mentioned that the xmms program might work better. Does anyone know if x11amp is still being maintained? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- In the beginning, the universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad idea. *** *Peter GoodEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Pete's Internet Services Sales: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *http://www.petesinternet.net Phone: 0401 283 482* *Morayfield QLD Australia * ***
Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:21:32AM -0700, Eric Hagglund wrote: First of all I would like to say your kernel is qoute ols, my suggestion: compile a new one! I will take that under advisement. I don't normally like to reinvent the weel just to get a new hubcap though . I know a little dramatic, but if it ain't broke, why fix it? Is there something wrong with the 2.0.36 kernel that I should know about? 2.0.36 has proved its mettle for quite some time. I suspect this is irrellevant. Second (more towards your problem) is why you can't open more than 1 x11amp application, my guess is that when you open one, it takes your soundcard (simply because it needs it to function...), when you open a seconds (by the way: Why do you want to???!) The reason I discovered this problem is not because I wanted to run more than a single instance of the same program, but because I was trying to run other programs (gmc, gnome-napster) that wanted to use it concurently and could not, even though I wasn't using the sound when running them. Moreover, I found that once I had started one of these other programs, I was unable to run x11amp after they had run, or if I had shut down x11amp, ran the other program and then tried to restart x11amp, it wouldn't run. I think this is actually an esound problem. The esound server grabs the device and will multiplex it for other processes that know how to talk to it. The work around is to have esound release the device if there aren't any processes asking to use it for like 2 seconds. If you put esd -as 2 in your ~/.xsession this may solve your problem. It'll be running, so the gnome apps won't restart it in total lockout mode. a bit more to the point: Your soundcard can't be shared OR linux can't share your soundcard. One device per program? No time sharing? That's a little neolithic, don't you think? Am I missing something here? I have a not-so-state-of-the-art cs4232 based on board sound, and I can get multiplexing of sound streams, course, there is a mixer in there. Oswald mentioned that the xmms program might work better. Does anyone know if x11amp is still being maintained? Don't know... xmms works pretty well though ;) -- ¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·characterset·when·compos » ing·email·messages.
Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:21:32AM -0700, Eric Hagglund wrote: I know a little dramatic, but if it ain't broke, why fix it? Is there something wrong with the 2.0.36 kernel that I should know about? there are several security bugs and denial of service problems with 2.0.36, if you want to stay 2.0.* you should probably at least upgrade to 2.0.38 or 2.0.39 if its out yet. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpB8gu7LHniH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
Whenever I attempt to run x11amp more than once in a single session, it refuses to reopen a second instance of the application. many devices (including the audio devices) can be opened only once at a time. so the second x11amp hangs waiting for the audio device to free up. I have also seen it die when opening another application concurrently. this kind of an unprecise problem description ... however - x11amp is quite old. try xmms. it's the same, but under a new name. When I try to restart then run x11amp from the command line, I get at least 15 repetitions of the following error: Unable to open the audio device Unable to reset audio device probably resulting from the first point ... As I write this my load monitor is completely in the red and top is telling me that Netscape is using 98% of my cpu. netscape? that's nothing new ... kill - restart - feel fine. *g* -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Re: My Debian box is unstable- Why?
First of all I would like to say your kernel is qoute ols, my suggestion: compile a new one! Second (more towards your problem) is why you can't open more than 1 x11amp application, my guess is that when you open one, it takes your soundcard (simply because it needs it to function...), when you open a seconds (by the way: Why do you want to???!), it finds out the resource is already taken (thank you x11amp programmers for saying it and not for waiting or it, this in regard to deadlocks), because it's taken it says you can'tuse it (nothing special to me). I guess that's your problem, a bit more to the point: Your soundcard can't be shared OR linux can't share your soundcard. Ron Rademaker On Wed, 17 May 2000, Eric Hagglund wrote: Now that I've got your attention, here's the problem I'm having. Whenever I attempt to run x11amp more than once in a single session, it refuses to reopen a second instance of the application. I have also seen it die when opening another application concurrently. When I try to restart then run x11amp from the command line, I get at least 15 repetitions of the following error: Unable to open the audio device Unable to reset audio device As I write this my load monitor is completely in the red and top is telling me that Netscape is using 98% of my cpu. I'm running Debian (potato)using a 2.0.36 kernel on a standalone (Pentium Pro) workstation with 40mb of RAM. Does anybody know what's going on here? Any suggestions as to where to look? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
