Re: nepomuk, tracker - why such CPU and memory hungry beasts are installed automatically?
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:59:23 +0300, David wrote in message <201204102159.23240.d_ba...@012.net.il>: > It is time that KDE (and Gnome) background services ran nicely niced > out of the way but this is still, after all this time, not the case. ..leaving nepomuk alone, IME it stalled my boxes, looks like it never checks whether any previous run has finished or even is still running, it just throws up another run after run, eventually you'll have a few dozen runs frying away your cpu cooling paste. > I have long disabled Nepomuk and use Recoll instead. Indexing daemon > (option) runs niced and one does not know it is running. It simply > works. > > I have a runner for using recoll in krunner on kde-apps if interested. ..yes? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120411221946.1bc9a...@nb6.lan
Re: nepomuk, tracker - why such CPU and memory hungry beasts are installed automatically?
It is time that KDE (and Gnome) background services ran nicely niced out of the way but this is still, after all this time, not the case. I have long disabled Nepomuk and use Recoll instead. Indexing daemon (option) runs niced and one does not know it is running. It simply works. I have a runner for using recoll in krunner on kde-apps if interested. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204102159.23240.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: nepomuk, tracker - why such CPU and memory hungry beasts are installed automatically?
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:17:44 +0200, Wojtek Zabolotny wrote: > A few months ago, my 4-core Dell Vostro 3750 running debian/testing > started to be awfully slow. I discovered, that this is caused by > "nepomuk-services" in KDE and spent some time to disable them for all > users (as there was no option to disable it globally and deinstallation > was also not possible due to package dependencies). You can disable indexing but AFAIK, Kmail does indeed need Nepomuk to be on the system. > Now my machine again started to be very slow. Looking for processes > consuming the CPU power I've found "tracker-store". Checking the > description of the "tracker" package, I've found, that this is something > like "nepomuk-services", installed automatically due to dependencies > gnome->gnome documents->tracker . Tracker is the indexer service for the GNOME desktop. You can also disable it. > OK. I've deinstalled it (which caused deinstallation of gnome). What? That cannot be possible, sir. You can have GNOME with no tracker daemon, though some of its libs are needed. > However it is really annoying that such CPU, memory and disk hungry > utilities are installed automatically. For example my home directory > uses 210GB on disk. The ~/.cache/tracker directory consumed 2.9GB !!! They're usually installed because of package dependencies, mainly coming from the "recommended" or "suggested" tags, but you are not "obligued" to them, you can choose: 1/ To not install them 2/ Get them installed but disabled 3/ Get the installed and tweaked to be disk space and CPU "resource wise". Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jm1i0b$ivm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: nepomuk, tracker - why such CPU and memory hungry beasts are installed automatically?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 05:17, Wojtek Zabolotny wrote: > Hi, > > A few months ago, my 4-core Dell Vostro 3750 running debian/testing started > to be awfully slow. I discovered, that this is caused by "nepomuk-services" > in KDE and spent some time to disable them for all users (as there was no > option to disable it globally and deinstallation was also not possible due > to package dependencies). It is possible to remove it, it is just a matter of not accepting the defaults and doing a bit of manual work in the package manager. > Now my machine again started to be very slow. Looking for processes > consuming the CPU power I've found "tracker-store". > Checking the description of the "tracker" package, I've found, that this is > something like "nepomuk-services", installed automatically due to > dependencies gnome->gnome documents->tracker . > > OK. I've deinstalled it (which caused deinstallation of gnome). It is a standard part of Gnome, after all. None the less, it is not required, and can be uninstalled with only minimal other components being uninstalled, just like nepomuk. > However it is really annoying that such CPU, memory and disk hungry > utilities are installed automatically. > For example my home directory uses 210GB on disk. The ~/.cache/tracker > directory consumed 2.9GB !!! They are installed because they are a standard part of their desktops, and they are useful They are also not that resource hungry once initial indexing is done. 2.9GB is only 1.3 percent, and it is the cache dir, if you want you can delete it. As far as the number of processes spawned, it may be that you that version has a bug. It is Testing after all. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=9hYpsFu0gAnmU5xg1ojOromCckZL6Uc5=fo8xpvdu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: nepomuk, tracker - why such CPU and memory hungry beasts are installed automatically?
On 10.04.2012 14:17, Wojtek Zabolotny wrote: Hi, A few months ago, my 4-core Dell Vostro 3750 running debian/testing started to be awfully slow. I discovered, that this is caused by "nepomuk-services" in KDE and spent some time to disable them for all users (as there was no option to disable it globally and deinstallation was also not possible due to package dependencies). Now my machine again started to be very slow. Looking for processes consuming the CPU power I've found "tracker-store". Checking the description of the "tracker" package, I've found, that this is something like "nepomuk-services", installed automatically due to dependencies gnome->gnome documents->tracker . OK. I've deinstalled it (which caused deinstallation of gnome). However it is really annoying that such CPU, memory and disk hungry utilities are installed automatically. For example my home directory uses 210GB on disk. The ~/.cache/tracker directory consumed 2.9GB !!! One more detail: Below is the list of tracker processes running on my poor machine: Does it really need to fork so many child processes? wzab 3504 2.7 0.8 312996 65844 ?Sl 10:46 5:53 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-store wzab 3509 3.2 34.4 4364268 2784272 ? SNl 10:46 7:03 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-miner-fs wzab 4929 0.0 0.1 617436 9140 ?SN 11:11 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 4950 0.0 0.0 490716 3396 ?SN 11:11 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 4980 0.0 0.0 447200 2868 ?SN 11:12 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 5047 0.0 0.0 433288 4840 ?SN 11:13 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 5228 0.0 0.0 531080 7244 ?SN 11:13 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 5247 0.0 0.0 426620 3672 ?SN 11:14 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 5284 0.0 0.0 528640 5052 ?SN 11:15 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 5317 0.0 0.0 505972 5696 ?SN 11:15 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 5991 0.0 0.1 553512 9640 ?SN 11:17 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6014 0.0 0.0 430036 2476 ?SN 11:17 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6079 0.0 0.0 527000 7408 ?SN 11:18 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6102 0.0 0.0 367708 4588 ?SN 11:19 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6136 0.0 0.0 422660 6852 ?SN 11:19 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6158 0.0 0.0 426068 4304 ?SN 11:20 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6178 0.0 0.0 423620 3532 ?SN 11:20 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6196 0.0 0.0 357632 4984 ?SN 11:21 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6218 0.0 0.0 430180 5096 ?SN 11:21 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6281 0.0 0.0 359428 2240 ?SN 11:23 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6341 0.0 0.0 365824 2600 ?SN 11:24 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6366 0.0 0.0 428636 6160 ?SN 11:25 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6392 0.0 0.0 429052 6300 ?SN 11:25 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6482 0.0 0.1 527600 9368 ?SN 11:26 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6504 0.0 0.0 494824 4024 ?SN 11:27 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6527 0.0 0.0 434188 6108 ?SN 11:27 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6557 0.0 0.0 492192 6664 ?SN 11:28 0:02 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6596 0.0 0.0 428788 4276 ?SN 11:28 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6624 0.0 0.1 537764 13300 ?SN 11:29 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6677 0.0 0.0 366984 5916 ?SN 11:30 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 6807 0.0 0.1 568652 11152 ?SN 11:33 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7585 0.0 0.1 564032 14072 ?SN 11:35 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7619 0.0 0.1 517732 8708 ?SN 11:36 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7641 0.0 0.1 494172 9956 ?SN 11:36 0:01 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7678 0.0 0.0 493676 3668 ?SN 11:37 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7697 0.0 0.0 357060 3200 ?SN 11:38 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7773 0.0 0.0 525340 7288 ?SN 11:39 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7795 0.0 0.0 422848 3344 ?SN 11:39 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7819 0.0 0.0 422552 3616 ?SN 11:39 0:00 /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract wzab 7887 0.0 0.0 43521
Re: Nepomuk
On 24/02/12 20:00, baldyeti wrote: Not in my version of System Settings. No such thing as Advanced. On this here mepis system (kde 4.5.3), "desktop search" is under "workspace appearance & behaviour" K->Settings->System Settings->Desktop Search Switched Nepomuk off. At last. Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ji8rij$q73$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Nepomuk
Not in my version of System Settings. No such thing as Advanced. On this here mepis system (kde 4.5.3), "desktop search" is under "workspace appearance & behaviour" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ji8pol$c48$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Nepomuk
On 23/02/12 02:40, Andrew Reid wrote: I didn't ask for it and I don't want it. So why do we have to have it? It hogs the CPU and has an enormous database. I certainly do not have enough file to justify a 60Mb database. Is it possible to stop it from working in KDE? And what about nepomuk? I'd like to stop that too. Do I have to exit from KDE and use another desktop? You can kill nepomuk. To do this for one account, go to: K -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager, My K-->Settings-->System Settings does not have an Advanced tab. and in the list of start-up services, uncheck "Nepomuk Search Module." I also uncheck "Update Notifier", "Free Space Notifier", and "Network Status Daemon". Not in my version of System Settings. No such thing as Advanced. Then, in K -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Search, turn everything off in the "Basic Settings" tab. You may have to log out and log back in to have it all take effect, and of course this won't remove the database, it will just shut off the services. If you want to do it programattically, the files you want are all in ~/.kde/share/config. You want kdedrc, nepomukserverrc, and nepomukstrigirc, they're "ini-format" files with square-bracketed headers and key-value pairs, you turn stuff off by setting it to "false", of course. Where I work, we have a bunch of Debian/KDE workstations which NFS-mount user home directories -- desktop search is a network traffic disaster on the NFS server, so shutting this off is a pretty high priority for us. What we actually do is, all the clients have KDEDIRS set in /etc/profile, pointing to /usr/local/etc/kde, and in there, there's a $KDEDIRS/share/config directory with kdedrc, nepomukserverrc, and nepomukstrigirc with just enough settings to shut it off. In the KDE scheme, KDEDIRS entries override user settings, and the KDEDIRS is root-owned, so it's difficult for users to turn it back on. I think it's actually possible, though, if the users undefine KDEDIRS in their user-specific profiles, that might get around it. But, users also enjoy having the NFS server actually work, so we've been OK so far. This is why I mentioned the config-file and system-wide ways to do it... -- A. -- Andrew Reid / rei...@bellatlantic.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ji8mb2$c5i$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Nepomuk
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:43:33 -0800 (PST), T wrote in message <1329957813.30735.yahoomailclas...@web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>: > --- On Wed, 2/22/12, Shaun Jones wrote: > > > In the control panel you can turn it off I believe it was > > in the advanced tab. > > Yes, one could try to do that but in my case that POS is still > running. I tried to kill it (and I thought I did) but it just won't > die! :( ..I found the "genocide" easier to do from htop, then scorch it in the "System settings"'s advanced tab. > # ps -A u | grep -i Nepomuk > luser 27372 3.0 0.5 302652 20436 ?Sl 19:33 > 0:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder --identifier > akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder luser 27377 0.5 0.2 136620 > 7304 ?S19:33 0:00 /usr/bin/nepomukserver root > 27379 0.0 0.0 7792 856 pts/0S+ 19:33 0:00 grep -i > Nepomuk > > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120223215628.649a8...@nb6.lan
Re: Nepomuk
> I didn't ask for it and I don't want it. So why do we have to have it? It > hogs the CPU and has an enormous database. I certainly do not have enough > file to justify a 60Mb database. > > Is it possible to stop it from working in KDE? And what about nepomuk? > I'd like to stop that too. Do I have to exit from KDE and use another > desktop? You can kill nepomuk. To do this for one account, go to: K -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager, and in the list of start-up services, uncheck "Nepomuk Search Module." I also uncheck "Update Notifier", "Free Space Notifier", and "Network Status Daemon". Then, in K -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Search, turn everything off in the "Basic Settings" tab. You may have to log out and log back in to have it all take effect, and of course this won't remove the database, it will just shut off the services. If you want to do it programattically, the files you want are all in ~/.kde/share/config. You want kdedrc, nepomukserverrc, and nepomukstrigirc, they're "ini-format" files with square-bracketed headers and key-value pairs, you turn stuff off by setting it to "false", of course. Where I work, we have a bunch of Debian/KDE workstations which NFS-mount user home directories -- desktop search is a network traffic disaster on the NFS server, so shutting this off is a pretty high priority for us. What we actually do is, all the clients have KDEDIRS set in /etc/profile, pointing to /usr/local/etc/kde, and in there, there's a $KDEDIRS/share/config directory with kdedrc, nepomukserverrc, and nepomukstrigirc with just enough settings to shut it off. In the KDE scheme, KDEDIRS entries override user settings, and the KDEDIRS is root-owned, so it's difficult for users to turn it back on. I think it's actually possible, though, if the users undefine KDEDIRS in their user-specific profiles, that might get around it. But, users also enjoy having the NFS server actually work, so we've been OK so far. > Algol 68 specialist This is why I mentioned the config-file and system-wide ways to do it... -- A. -- Andrew Reid / rei...@bellatlantic.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120029.32996.rei...@bellatlantic.net
Re: Nepomuk
--- On Wed, 2/22/12, Shaun Jones wrote: > In the control panel you can turn it off I believe it was > in the advanced tab. Yes, one could try to do that but in my case that POS is still running. I tried to kill it (and I thought I did) but it just won't die! :( # ps -A u | grep -i Nepomuk luser 27372 3.0 0.5 302652 20436 ?Sl 19:33 0:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder --identifier akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder luser 27377 0.5 0.2 136620 7304 ?S19:33 0:00 /usr/bin/nepomukserver root 27379 0.0 0.0 7792 856 pts/0S+ 19:33 0:00 grep -i Nepomuk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1329957813.30735.yahoomailclas...@web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Nepomuk
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > I didn't ask for it and I don't want it. So why do we have to have it? It > hogs the CPU and has an enormous database. I certainly do not have enough > file to justify a 60Mb database. > > Is it possible to stop it from working in KDE? And what about nepomuk? > I'd like to stop that too. Do I have to exit from KDE and use another > desktop? > > Regards > -- > Sian Mountbatten > Algol 68 specialist > > > -- > > In the control panel you can turn it off I believe it was in the advanced tab. -- Mister Jones
Re: nepomuk indexer in systray
AG wrote: > On 21/05/10 12:37, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote: >> Hello to all! >> I just upgraded my debian testing, installing nepomuk search. My >> problem is that the indexer every now and then appears in the systray >> for a second or so, and then disappears, which is very distracting >> (or am I very sensitive? :-) )... Anyone knows how to stop the icon >> from getting on my nerves? :-) >> >> Thanks! >> G. >> > > Aside from disabling the damn thing from working automatically in the > first place - no. > > KDE4 is becoming increasingly bloated and does seem to be calling in > an increasing amount of dependencies and additional database-related > libraries which then seemingly take over. Not OK. > > My $0.02 worth. > > AG > > Agree... I also did not understand why some days ago as I upgraded my debian testing + KDE, a hundred packets related to nepomuk were installed, along with mysql server 5.1, and today as I upraded again, mysql server was removed. What was that??? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: nepomuk indexer in systray
On 21/05/10 12:37, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote: Hello to all! I just upgraded my debian testing, installing nepomuk search. My problem is that the indexer every now and then appears in the systray for a second or so, and then disappears, which is very distracting (or am I very sensitive? :-) )... Anyone knows how to stop the icon from getting on my nerves? :-) Thanks! G. Aside from disabling the damn thing from working automatically in the first place - no. KDE4 is becoming increasingly bloated and does seem to be calling in an increasing amount of dependencies and additional database-related libraries which then seemingly take over. Not OK. My $0.02 worth. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bf7b062.8070...@gmail.com
Re: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano
On 20/05/10 12:19, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Le 20/05/2010 10:12, AG wrote: Hi all Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even necessary? Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? Cheers AG Hi, virtuoso-minimal is on the recommend list for soprano-daemon, which is brought in by libsoprano4 (a depend of many kde4 apps). Here I have: aptitude search ~S~i~nnepomuk i libnepomuk4 i libnepomukquery4a aptitude search ~S~i~nvirtuoso aptitude search ~S~i~nsoprano i libsoprano4 i soprano-daemon aptitude why soprano-daemon i libsoprano4 Dépend soprano-daemon (= 2.4.3+dfsg.1-1) Hope it helps. It does/ did help, thank you. I just pulled down virtuoso-minimal, and that dragged in a few more libraries, so hopefully that will shut nepomuk from complaining at me each time I logon. Thanks mate - appreciate your help. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bf54906.7050...@gmail.com
Re: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano
On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:40:01 +0200, Schelstraete Bart wrote: Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Who says that you need virtuoso to run KDE4? KDE4 when it starts... If you don't need it, you don't install it. nepomukserver is contained in kdebase-runtime. There is a dependency on kdebase-runtime in almost every kde4 package. It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that Debian needs Oracle... sigh... Except for the dependency and stuff, yes. And your post is like sticking your head in the sand and then telling us what you've read. Jiří Paleček -Original message- From: AG Sent: Thu 20-05-2010 10:30 To: debian user ; Subject: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano Hi all Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even necessary? Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? Cheers AG -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.vcz5enwgu2f...@debian
Re: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano
Le 20/05/2010 10:12, AG wrote: Hi all Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even necessary? Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? Cheers AG Hi, virtuoso-minimal is on the recommend list for soprano-daemon, which is brought in by libsoprano4 (a depend of many kde4 apps). Here I have: aptitude search ~S~i~nnepomuk i libnepomuk4 i libnepomukquery4a aptitude search ~S~i~nvirtuoso aptitude search ~S~i~nsoprano i libsoprano4 i soprano-daemon aptitude why soprano-daemon i libsoprano4 Dépend soprano-daemon (= 2.4.3+dfsg.1-1) Hope it helps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bf51acf.2060...@googlemail.com
Re: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano
On 20/05/10 11:35, Schelstraete Bart wrote: >Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be >pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants >virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is >required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Who says that you need virtuoso to run KDE4? If you don't need it, you don't install it. It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that Debian needs Oracle... sigh... I did not deliberately download and install nepomuk, it came down as part and parcel of a regular update and I also didn't say that I needed virtuoso to run KDE4 - perhaps you should read emails properly before launching into a sarcastic and unhelpful retort, Schelstraete. You will see that what I +did+ write was that nepomuk claims it needs virtuoso. So aside from your spurious analogy with Oracle, do you have anything worthwhile to contribute? AG Schelstraete Bart http://www.schelstraete.org b...@schelstraete.org -Original message- *From:* AG *Sent:* Thu 20-05-2010 10:30 *To:* debian user ; *Subject:* Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano Hi all Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even necessary? Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? Cheers AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bf4eed9.1010...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bf51223.6050...@gmail.com
RE: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano
>Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be >pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants >virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is >required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Who says that you need virtuoso to run KDE4? If you don't need it, you don't install it. It's like installing debian with Oracle, and afterwards complain that Debian needs Oracle... sigh... Schelstraete Bart http://www.schelstraete.org b...@schelstraete.org -Original message- From: AG Sent: Thu 20-05-2010 10:30 To: debian user ; Subject: Nepomuk wants virtuoso soprano Hi all Although I am logging into Gnome DE on an up-to-date Squeeze system, I receive a message at login that declares Nepomuk requires virtuoso soprano to work. Having looked nepomuk up via Google, it seems like it is something from our KDE friends, but using apt-cache search I don't see anything called virtuoso soprano to draw down to satisfy nepomuk. My question is: how does one satisfy nepomuk and/ or is nepomuk even necessary? Also, is it just me or do other folk here also find that KDE seems to be pulling in loads of dependencies ... databases, nepomuk (which wants virtuoso soprano), etc. just to operate? Seems like a lot of overhead is required to prop up KDE4.* these days. Anyway, any suggestions re: the nepomuk issue? Cheers AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bf4eed9.1010...@gmail.com
