Re: Newbie selecting package manager

2005-07-07 Thread Jules Dubois
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 21:42, Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I'm leaning toward using apt (and maybe occasionally using Synaptic)
 rather then Aptitude.

ITYM: apt-get.  apt-get (and its cohorts), Synaptic, and aptitude are all
based on the Advanced Package Tool, a/k/a APT.

 Given my use, shouldn't the simplicity of apt be adequate over the long
 haul?

apt-get is a very good tool.

Synaptic is a very good tool and has a nicer user interface.

aptitude is a very good tool; it's doesn't have the nice GUI of Synaptic but
it's more powerful.  Also, it can be used like apt-get from the command
line.

 Is using deborphan and -- purge just as effective as Aptitude's cleaning
 methods?

I ran deborphan for the first time yesterday.  It found some packages I
didn't need and I purged them with aptitude.  aptitude didn't think the
packages were unused because I had installed them manually.  No tool does
everything.

 If so, then what's Aptitude's advantage?

You might install the aptitude-doc package and read about all the magical
things aptitude can do.

 Or is this just a matter of preference?

Yes.


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Re: Newbie selecting package manager

2005-07-07 Thread Jeffrin Jose
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 21:42 -0600, Elmer E. Dow wrote:
 After having used Red Hat 9 and Knoppix (hard disk install), I installed 
 Sarge 
 a while ago and plan to stick with it. 
All support to you.
 Now I need to select a package manager 
 to use  that fits my needs. My laptop is used for office tapplications 
 (creating documents, some graphics, presentation, browsing, e-mail, etc.) and 
 I don't anticipate installing and removing too many applications.
 
okay
 I'm leaning toward using apt (and maybe occasionally using Synaptic) rather 
 then Aptitude. Given my use, shouldn't the simplicity of apt be adequate over 
 the long haul?
May be...
 
 Is using deborphan and -- purge just as effective as Aptitude's cleaning 
 methods? If so, then what's Aptitude's advantage? Or is this just a matter of 
 preference?
Aptitude gives you a GUI...
I recommend using apt it is very stable as well for security reasons.


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Re: Newbie selecting package manager

2005-07-07 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Elmer E. Dow wrote:

After having used Red Hat 9 and Knoppix (hard disk install), I installed Sarge 
a while ago and plan to stick with it. Now I need to select a package manager 
to use  that fits my needs. My laptop is used for office applications 
(creating documents, some graphics, presentation, browsing, e-mail, etc.) and 
I don't anticipate installing and removing too many applications.


I'm leaning toward using apt (and maybe occasionally using Synaptic) rather 
then Aptitude. Given my use, shouldn't the simplicity of apt be adequate over 
the long haul?


Is using deborphan and -- purge just as effective as Aptitude's cleaning 
methods? If so, then what's Aptitude's advantage? Or is this just a matter of 
preference?


- Elmer E. Dow
 

If you like synaptic, you can stick with it for now. But in the mean 
time learn apt-get. Sometimes you want to do things which are (easy to 
do|possible only) from the command line. Then apt-get comes in handy.


Regarding aptitude vs. apt-get, it is a religious war. You can choose 
either one. Both have its advantages and disadvantages. I started with 
apt-get and it fulfilled all my requirements, so I never felt like 
learning aptitude. If I had started with aptitude, probably the opposite 
thing would have happened.


hth
raju

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Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Graduate Student, MAE
Cornell University
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/


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