Re: No Desktop - Anyone else??

2013-08-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 12:31:01AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> Anyone else want to chime in?

Yeah! Please don't top post. Please trim out unnecessary content.
Also, I think you'd get better help if you upgraded your mail client. It
is not easy to differentiate your response from the previous posting.
IOW, it is easier to delete the message than to spend time trying to
decipher it.

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Re: No Desktop - Anyone else??

2013-08-06 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Anyone else want to chime in?

TIA

Ethan
=
Hi Ethan :)


On 07/31/2013 07:29 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> I just upgraded using a sources list from a computer running Debian7. I
> think that Mate is installed, but now have no desktop!


What does it mean, that you "now have no desktop"?

Doesn't start X? Doesn't start the display manager? Doesn't start the
desktop environment?

Is there any output or any information by a log file, e.g. is there a
~/.xsession-errors and if so, then what's the date of it and what's it
content?

Did you already do Internet inquiries yourself, e.g. did you google for
"how to find out if something is installed on my debian", without the
quotation marks? IOW why don't you know if it's installed or not?

Please reply to the mailing list only and provide more information.

Regards,
Ralf

===

Ralf -

Sorry for the delay--

What does it mean, that you "now have no desktop"?  Only the command prompt

Doesn't start X? Doesn't start the display manager? Doesn't start the
desktop environment? No to all of the 3.

Is there any output or any information by a log file, e.g. is there a
~/.xsession-errors and if so, then what's the date of it and what's it
content? I have been trying to use mutt, with no success.  Any help you 
can provide on this?  Then I can generate files and send them.


Did you already do Internet inquiries yourself, e.g. did you google for
"how to find out if something is installed on my debian", without the
quotation marks? IOW why don't you know if it's installed or not? It is 
called locate.


There are Mate files there but errors are shown with the desktop files.

My problem now is with Mutt.

Ethan

=

Ralf -

Finally got mutt [I like the name 'puppy', it is not as derogatory as 
mutt] to work.  I apologize for the length of this

/
apt-get install -f



Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:

  python-crypto python-tagpy libhsqldb-java-gcj libtracker-client-0.8-0
  libgnomekbd7 gnome-utils-common libepc-ui-1.0-2 libpanel-applet-4-0
  libfont-freetype-perl python-pyasn1 libcdio13 mutter-common libtwolame0
  python-twisted-core libglib-perl espeak libnm-glib-vpn1
  freedesktop-sound-theme libboost-python1.49.0 libpango-perl libarchive1
  libxcb-render-util0 gnome-media libepc-1.0-2 libcaribou0 nautilus
  libpackagekit-glib2-14 libgail-gnome-module openoffice.org-impress baobab
  libtelepathy-glib0 libportaudio2 libgtksourceview-3.0-0
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libcanberra-gtk3-0 libatk-bridge2.0-0
  libbabl-0.0-0 libxcb-event1 python-debian python-zope.interface
  libgegl-0.0-0 openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev genisoimage
  gnome-settings-daemon obex-data-server libxml-xpathengine-perl
  openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-filter-binfilter libgnome-mag2
  brasero-common libclutter-gst-1.0-0 python-clientform libgail-common
  libecal-1.2-11 hplip-cups gnome-session-canberra liburi-perl
  python-twisted-web libnm-gtk0 openoffice.org-gtk libgnome-media0
  app-install-data gnome-themes-standard libgraphite3 python-pycurl 
gnome-mag

  libgucharmap-2-90-7 libburn4 bsh-gcj python-gdata libnm-util2 gnome-menus
  liblircclient0 gnome-session-common dvd+rw-tools libfont-afm-perl
  libmailtools-perl libsocialweb-client2 cheese-common accountsservice
  libhtml-parser-perl libcheese3 gnome-themes libgnome2-perl librest-0.7-0
  libreoffice-officebean libxml-twig-perl libeggdbus-1-0 esound-common
  libtotem-plparser17 libmx-common totem-common libquvi-scripts
  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 python-mechanize libgoa-1.0-common 
gnome-media-common

  nautilus-data libwacom-common libxml-parser-perl python-utidylib
  libmission-control-plugins0 libgalago3 system-tools-backends libfolks25
  gnome-themes-standard-data dasher python-configobj libgnome-desktop-3-2
  python-serial python-beautifulsoup gedit-common libmutter0
  python-gnomedesktop python-pam python-openssl openoffice.org-style-galaxy
  libbrlapi0.5 libao-common libgdu-gtk0 libtidy-0.99-0 libatspi1.0-0 apg
  gnome-orca libaccountsservice0 libnet-dbus-perl libsocialweb-common
  python-pyatspi libgp11-0 libgee2 bsh libgcr0 libcdio-cdda0 libcdio-cdda1
  openoffice.org-math at-spi2-core aptitude-common eog gnome-dictionary
  libgnome2-vfs-perl gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 gnome-disk-utility libesd0
  liblouis2 gjs python-uno dasher-data gok python-brlapi obexd-client
  python-xdg espeak-data libtelepathy-logger2 libnm-glib4 libgsf-1-common
  ttf-opensymbol libgtk2-perl python-xapian python-twisted-conch at-spi
  libgmime-2.4-2 libcluttergesture-0.0.2-0 libgnome-bluetooth10 
python-louie
  python-feedparser libgirepository1.0-0 python-louis mousetweaks 
libpython2.6
  gnome-system-monitor libgmime-2.6-0 python-gnupginterface 
libimobiledevice2

  libao4 python-nevow libtextcat-data-utf8 libgtksourceview-3.0-common
  libgoa-1.0-0 telepathy-m

Re: No Desktop

2013-08-02 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Hi Ethan :)


On 07/31/2013 07:29 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> I just upgraded using a sources list from a computer running Debian7. I
> think that Mate is installed, but now have no desktop!


What does it mean, that you "now have no desktop"?

Doesn't start X? Doesn't start the display manager? Doesn't start the
desktop environment?

Is there any output or any information by a log file, e.g. is there a
~/.xsession-errors and if so, then what's the date of it and what's it
content?

Did you already do Internet inquiries yourself, e.g. did you google for
"how to find out if something is installed on my debian", without the
quotation marks? IOW why don't you know if it's installed or not?

Please reply to the mailing list only and provide more information.

Regards,
Ralf

===

Ralf -

Sorry for the delay--

What does it mean, that you "now have no desktop"?  Only the command prompt

Doesn't start X? Doesn't start the display manager? Doesn't start the
desktop environment? No to all of the 3.

Is there any output or any information by a log file, e.g. is there a
~/.xsession-errors and if so, then what's the date of it and what's it
content? I have been trying to use mutt, with no success.  Any help you 
can provide on this?  Then I can generate files and send them.


Did you already do Internet inquiries yourself, e.g. did you google for
"how to find out if something is installed on my debian", without the
quotation marks? IOW why don't you know if it's installed or not? It is 
called locate.


There are Mate files there but errors are shown with the desktop files.

My problem now is with Mutt.

Ethan

=

Ralf -

Finally got mutt [I like the name 'puppy', it is not as derogatory as 
mutt] to work.  I apologize for the length of this

/
apt-get install -f



Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:

  python-crypto python-tagpy libhsqldb-java-gcj libtracker-client-0.8-0
  libgnomekbd7 gnome-utils-common libepc-ui-1.0-2 libpanel-applet-4-0
  libfont-freetype-perl python-pyasn1 libcdio13 mutter-common libtwolame0
  python-twisted-core libglib-perl espeak libnm-glib-vpn1
  freedesktop-sound-theme libboost-python1.49.0 libpango-perl libarchive1
  libxcb-render-util0 gnome-media libepc-1.0-2 libcaribou0 nautilus
  libpackagekit-glib2-14 libgail-gnome-module openoffice.org-impress baobab
  libtelepathy-glib0 libportaudio2 libgtksourceview-3.0-0
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libcanberra-gtk3-0 libatk-bridge2.0-0
  libbabl-0.0-0 libxcb-event1 python-debian python-zope.interface
  libgegl-0.0-0 openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev genisoimage
  gnome-settings-daemon obex-data-server libxml-xpathengine-perl
  openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-filter-binfilter libgnome-mag2
  brasero-common libclutter-gst-1.0-0 python-clientform libgail-common
  libecal-1.2-11 hplip-cups gnome-session-canberra liburi-perl
  python-twisted-web libnm-gtk0 openoffice.org-gtk libgnome-media0
  app-install-data gnome-themes-standard libgraphite3 python-pycurl 
gnome-mag

  libgucharmap-2-90-7 libburn4 bsh-gcj python-gdata libnm-util2 gnome-menus
  liblircclient0 gnome-session-common dvd+rw-tools libfont-afm-perl
  libmailtools-perl libsocialweb-client2 cheese-common accountsservice
  libhtml-parser-perl libcheese3 gnome-themes libgnome2-perl librest-0.7-0
  libreoffice-officebean libxml-twig-perl libeggdbus-1-0 esound-common
  libtotem-plparser17 libmx-common totem-common libquvi-scripts
  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 python-mechanize libgoa-1.0-common 
gnome-media-common

  nautilus-data libwacom-common libxml-parser-perl python-utidylib
  libmission-control-plugins0 libgalago3 system-tools-backends libfolks25
  gnome-themes-standard-data dasher python-configobj libgnome-desktop-3-2
  python-serial python-beautifulsoup gedit-common libmutter0
  python-gnomedesktop python-pam python-openssl openoffice.org-style-galaxy
  libbrlapi0.5 libao-common libgdu-gtk0 libtidy-0.99-0 libatspi1.0-0 apg
  gnome-orca libaccountsservice0 libnet-dbus-perl libsocialweb-common
  python-pyatspi libgp11-0 libgee2 bsh libgcr0 libcdio-cdda0 libcdio-cdda1
  openoffice.org-math at-spi2-core aptitude-common eog gnome-dictionary
  libgnome2-vfs-perl gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 gnome-disk-utility libesd0
  liblouis2 gjs python-uno dasher-data gok python-brlapi obexd-client
  python-xdg espeak-data libtelepathy-logger2 libnm-glib4 libgsf-1-common
  ttf-opensymbol libgtk2-perl python-xapian python-twisted-conch at-spi
  libgmime-2.4-2 libcluttergesture-0.0.2-0 libgnome-bluetooth10 
python-louie
  python-feedparser libgirepository1.0-0 python-louis mousetweaks 
libpython2.6
  gnome-system-monitor libgmime-2.6-0 python-gnupginterface 
libimobiledevice2

  libao4 python-nevow libtextcat-data-utf8 libgtksourceview-3.0-common
  libgoa-1.0-0 telepathy-mission-control-5 python-pysqlite2 libwnck-3-0
  libaudio

Re: No Desktop

2013-08-01 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Hi Ethan :)


On 07/31/2013 07:29 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> I just upgraded using a sources list from a computer running Debian7. I
> think that Mate is installed, but now have no desktop!


What does it mean, that you "now have no desktop"?

Doesn't start X? Doesn't start the display manager? Doesn't start the
desktop environment?

Is there any output or any information by a log file, e.g. is there a
~/.xsession-errors and if so, then what's the date of it and what's it
content?

Did you already do Internet inquiries yourself, e.g. did you google for
"how to find out if something is installed on my debian", without the
quotation marks? IOW why don't you know if it's installed or not?

Please reply to the mailing list only and provide more information.

Regards,
Ralf

===

Ralf -

Sorry for the delay--

What does it mean, that you "now have no desktop"?  Only the command prompt

Doesn't start X? Doesn't start the display manager? Doesn't start the
desktop environment? No to all of the 3.

Is there any output or any information by a log file, e.g. is there a
~/.xsession-errors and if so, then what's the date of it and what's it
content? I have been trying to use mutt, with no success.  Any help you 
can provide on this?  Then I can generate files and send them.


Did you already do Internet inquiries yourself, e.g. did you google for
"how to find out if something is installed on my debian", without the
quotation marks? IOW why don't you know if it's installed or not? It is 
called locate.


There are Mate files there but errors are shown with the desktop files.

My problem now is with Mutt.

Ethan


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Re: No Desktop

2013-08-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Ethan :)

> On 07/31/2013 07:29 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> > I just upgraded using a sources list from a computer running Debian7. I
> > think that Mate is installed, but now have no desktop!

What does it mean, that you "now have no desktop"?

Doesn't start X? Doesn't start the display manager? Doesn't start the
desktop environment?

Is there any output or any information by a log file, e.g. is there a
~/.xsession-errors and if so, then what's the date of it and what's it
content?

Did you already do Internet inquiries yourself, e.g. did you google for
"how to find out if something is installed on my debian", without the
quotation marks? IOW why don't you know if it's installed or not?

Please reply to the mailing list only and provide more information.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: No Desktop

2013-07-31 Thread Ralph Katz
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On 07/31/2013 07:29 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> Dear List -
> 
> This is an interesting day!!!
> 
> I just upgraded using a sources list from a computer running Debian7. I
> think that Mate is installed, but now have no desktop!
> 
> Here is the sources list -
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD
> #Binary-1 20110322-15:11]/ squeeze contrib main
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD
> #Binary-1 20110322-15:11]/ squeeze contrib main
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD
> #Binary-2 20110322-15:11]/ squeeze contrib main
> 
> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
> #deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
> #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> 
> # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
> # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
> # for your mirror of choice.
> #
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib
> #deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheeze-updates main contrib
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
> #deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
> deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian wheezy main
> deb http://repo.mate-desktop.org/debian wheezy main
> 
> TIA
> 
> Ethan

I know nothing about mate other than it's not debian.  You will want to
add debian security updates to your sources.list for sure regardless
whether or not you use non-debian repos for additional apps:

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib

My setup is an xfce desktop.  Here's my sources.list from my local
mirror at MIT:

~$ grep -v "#" /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib

deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib

deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main non-free contrib

Run apt-get update after making any changes to your sources.list.

Regards,
Ralph

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Re: no desktop directory for newly created user and some other issues.

2010-08-06 Thread Alexander Batischev
Hi!

First of all - you better ask different questions in different treads. But as
far as you asked already...

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:36:11AM +0530, vishnu vardhan wrote:
> no desktop directory for newly created user and some other issues.
[skipped]
> 
adduser don't add Desktop directory. Desktop is a DE/WM-specific thing and have
nothing to deal with adduser. I think LXDE should create Desktop directory by
itself if it can't find one... You probably should create bug report about that.

For now, I think it would be enough to run

$ mkdir Desktop

in new user's directory - that would create directory called "Desktop".


> *issue 2* : sometimes I am receiving the following error after booting into
> the system :
> 
> Error: Unable to establish connection with FAM.
> Do you have "FAM" or "Gamin" installed and running?
[skipped]
> 
Well, I don't know what FAM or Gamin is and what they're intended to do, but
you can install one of them and look if it would fix the problem. Actually,
that's what error message advising.


> *issue 3* : at present i am using the following to completly remove the
> packages from the system :
> 
> # aptitude purge --purge-unused
> 
> is there any way better than the above to completly remove the packages from
> the system ?
There isn't, I think. BTW, did you know that you can specify exact package name
instead of purguing unused ones?

# aptitude purge PACKAGENAME


> *issue 4* : how do i gracefully shutdown the system ?
[skipped]
> 
The following command

# shutdown -h now

is probably most common one.


> *issue 5* : how do i find the packages with unmet dependencies ?
Hmm... I don't have an answer to that - maybe someone who is more experienced
in using apt-/aptitude would help you, but I have some general suggestions.

First, you will never face unmet dependencies if you're using only Debian
repositories.

Second, even if you will (for example, you installed some third-party deb
package), following command

# apt-get -f install

probably fix everything.


> *issue 6* : i have two users on my system. how do i restrict another user to
> use shutdown ?
Regular users can't run shutdown. To do so, they should get root's privileges
using su (and entering root's password) or sudo (which is preferred way,
because sudo requires user's password and have a mechanism to restrict user's
abilities).

So if you don't want user run any of administrator's commands (like halt,
shutdown, mkfs etc), you don't have to do anything - that's already done for
you. If you want user to be able run anything but shutdown, you should modify
/etc/sudoers properly.

Entry for sudoers would look like this:

alex ALL = !/sbin/shutdown

where alex is a user's name, and /sbin/shutdown is a path to the utility you
want to disable for user.

Note that it's not totally secure - user can move shutdown to another place and
run it from there, for example.

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Re: no desktop environment

2006-08-03 Thread Chuckk Hubbard

On 8/3/06, [KS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The last time I installed, I used the minimal install CD for etch and
got the terminal after it was done. To get the desktop environment I had
to manually install it. Install gnome and gdm with apt using:

apt-get install gdm gnome gnome-desktop-environment

and you should be getting a lot of packages that are required by gnome.
After that you can handpick more packages depending on your needs.


That did it.  I had tried a few gnome-things, I didn't know what the
name of the main thing was.  Thanks!

-Chuckk


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Re: no desktop environment

2006-08-03 Thread [KS]
Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
> I installed Etch on my laptop, and have cds 1 2 and 3.  During the
> setup, it said to make sure xserver-xorg was loaded, and it is
> installed.  Debian boots to tty terminal, though.  I type "startx" and
> get a crosshatched desktop with a black terminal in the upper left
> corner.  There is an X pointer, and it does respond to the touchpad,
> but I can't affect anything beyond typing in the terminal.
> I did a net-install of Etch on my desktop, and it went fine.
> Unfortunately, my wireless card for the laptop hasn't shown up yet.
> So I'm wondering whether this is Xwindows or Gnome-oriented, and
> whether it's from using the CDs instead of net-install, or from being
> on the laptop.  It's a Micron Transport ZX.
> 
> -Chuckk
> 

The last time I installed, I used the minimal install CD for etch and
got the terminal after it was done. To get the desktop environment I had
to manually install it. Install gnome and gdm with apt using:

apt-get install gdm gnome gnome-desktop-environment

and you should be getting a lot of packages that are required by gnome.
After that you can handpick more packages depending on your needs.

HTH, /ks


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Re: no desktop

2005-08-17 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On 8/17/05, Stephen Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  hello,
>  i'm a newby installing debian for the first time. i've been able to install
> debian 3.1, however i'm unable to reach the desktop. when i boot up i only
> get to the text based screen which presents me with a prompt, ( debian
> login), if i use my user name and password a small software disclaimer comes
> up next and under that is a second login prompt which ends with a $. no
> matter what i type i get a command not found? and a prompt again... i've
> tried various things, such as startx, xstart and so forth. all to no avail.
> i really would like to learn to use debian thtas why i bought the disk to
> install it. i hope that someone will take the time to help me out..
>  yours truely
>  stephen green.
>  
>  ps, i've already registered to the lists forums and haven't recieved any
> reply's to my plea for help, i was hoping intitially that there was a true
> community invovled with debian, so far though i'm beginning to wonder about
> that. 
Your question gives little or no information. I think you should read
how to ask questions. Now coming to your problem, you should give
details of your system like its graphic cards detail, its memory,
mouse, keyboard etc. All these things play a role in configuration of
x windows. Due to some reason your x windows is not starting. Also
whether xserver has been installed or not should be known. I hope now
you will appreciate my first a few lines.

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Re: no desktop

2005-08-16 Thread Kent West
Stephen Green wrote:

> i'm a newby installing debian for the first time. i've been able to
> install debian 3.1, however i'm unable to reach the desktop. when i
> boot up i only get to the text based screen which presents me with a
> prompt, ( debian login), if i use my user name and password a small
> software disclaimer comes up next and under that is a second login
> prompt which ends with a $. no matter what i type i get a command not
> found? and a prompt again... i've tried various things, such as
> startx, xstart and so forth. all to no avail.

Try "aptitude install x-window-system kde" followed by "startx".



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re: no desktop

2005-08-16 Thread Stephen Green




hello,
i'm a newby installing debian for the first time. i've been able to install debian 3.1, however i'm unable to reach the desktop. when i boot up i only get to the text based screen which presents me with a prompt, ( debian login), if i use my user name and password a small software disclaimer comes up next and under that is a second login prompt which ends with a $. no matter what i type i get a command not found? and a prompt again... i've tried various things, such as startx, xstart and so forth. all to no avail. i really would like to learn to use debian thtas why i bought the disk to install it. i hope that someone will take the time to help me out..
yours truely
stephen green.

ps, i've already registered to the lists forums and haven't recieved any reply's to my plea for help, i was hoping intitially that there was a true community invovled with debian, so far though i'm beginning to wonder about that.