Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-26 Thread Brian McKee
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:58 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
 Question: Is there an MP3 player that plays Ogg files right out of the box?

I recently bought a Cowan D2 to replace my dead iPod mini - Ogg right
out of the box as well as a pretty good selection of other formats too.
Mounts as a standard USB drive.  Audio quality seems good and battery
life is great.

Still not sold on the touch screen interface, but it is a cool little
device for audio or video podcasts, and you can read plain text files ok
with it too... 

HTH,
Brian


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Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-22 Thread Jordi GutiƩrrez Hermoso
On 22/06/2008, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Question: Is there an MP3 player that plays Ogg files right out of the box?

There are several. I've been quite happy with Samsung products. I have
a YP-U2 Samsung player.

Funny thing to call it mp3 player when you want it to play Ogg. :-)

- Jordi G. H.


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Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-22 Thread Jordi GutiƩrrez Hermoso
On 22/06/2008, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 they all seem to require Windoze and WMP (I don't even know what WMP is).

Oh, btw, many audio players work just like a regular usb flash drive.
You plug it in, and you treat it like any other pendrive. The Samsung
player I have is like this. No need for stupid and non-free software.

- Jordi G. H.


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Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-22 Thread Mark Allums

Thomas H. George wrote:
 Question: Is there an MP3 player that plays Ogg files right out of 
the box?


 I'm considering converting to Ogg the audio tapes I play on a clunky
 cassette player during workouts.  A review of an iRiver T30 noted that
 initially it worked only with XP but a download from the manufacturer
 could convert it to a more universal machine.  A Goggle search turned up
 more players which can play Ogg files but they all seem to require
 Windoze and WMP (I don't even know what WMP is).

 Is the iRiver T30 the best choice?  It looks pretty clunky though
 perhaps not as bad as my old cassette player.

 Tom



This is not the best forum for this, you should be Googling.

Given that:

Several players could, but Microsoft and Apple have pretty much managed 
to kill those off.  There is an open source/free software firmware 
available for a variety of players that loves ogg vorbis, Rockbox.


http://www.rockbox.org/

It has been ported to some iPods, and some iRivers, and Sansa e200s and 
other players.  You might look for a player that is supported by it.  It 
has a lot of other cool features, and there is active development, 
including ports to new targets.


It is compiled on Linux with gcc, so conceivably, any player with CPU 
supported by gcc could be ported, given that a volunteer gets the full 
specs of the player and tkes an interest.  ARMs and coldfire are the two 
most common embedded CPU architectures used in players.


The best thing you can do if you have a favorite player you want to run 
Rockbox is send a player or two to a Rockbox dev, along with the 
complete specs of the player.


More than you wanted or needed to know, but Rockbox is IMO probably your 
best bet for ogg support.


Mark Allums


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Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-22 Thread Sam Kuper
You may want to look at the following thread from the Cambridge Linux Group
mailing list:

http://lists.infowares.com/archive/clug/2008-June/006805.html


Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-22 Thread David Fox
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is the iRiver T30 the best choice?  It looks pretty clunky though perhaps
 not as bad as my old cassette player.

It's decidedly better than an old cassette player. :)

I have one of these players - acquired it about 2 years ago at Sears 1/2 price.

It does work with linux. You probably want the package mtp-tools as
the player uses the MPT transport library. Inside that package are
command line tools to do things like send files to the player and so
forth, and you can use Amarok once it is setup, it'll use those
commands as a backend.

It will play oggs out of the box.

No special problems with this player except after 2 years of use the
solenoids get dirty which causes odd skips, loops cycling through the
browser. I can lock the player so that it doesn't do that, though.


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Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-22 Thread Jochen Schulz
Mark Allums:
 
 More than you wanted or needed to know, but Rockbox is IMO probably your  
 best bet for ogg support.

I second this. I bought an Iriver H120 two years ago, installed Rockbox
on the very first day and have never regretted it. Take a look at their
website, buy any player Rockbox supports and you'll have a device giving
you just about anything you will ever need.

J.
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Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?

2008-06-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:58:14AM -0400, Thomas H. George [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] was heard to say:
 Question: Is there an MP3 player that plays Ogg files right out of the box?

  I have an iAudio U3 by Cowon.  AFAIK all the players in the iAudio
line support Ogg (and some other free formats like Flac); my only
complaint about this one is that after only a year and a few months it's
starting to break: the headphone jack has been getting flaky (unless I
continually shove the connector in I only get one sound channel) and
just recently I've been seeing signs that the USB jack might be starting
to go (which means I won't be able to load new podcasts and, since it
charges over USB, could turn it into a doorstop).  I don't know if this
is typical of Cowon players or if I just have a bad one.

  When I decide to replace this I think I'll try something from iRiver
(a different company) -- they have a long history of supporting open
formats.  You can also get a player from another company and install
Rockbox, but I would rather buy from a company that supports me
up-front when I have the choice.

  Daniel


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