Re: Paste with translation table into gnome-terminal?
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 09:46:20AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > The actual problem is with Language Handling and the simplification of > it for End users. Which means, file a bug report *SOMEWHERE* where you > feel it will at least be looked at. Will do. I'll file against gnome-terminal and let the maintainer move it if that's wrong. I suspect a wishlist bug from the Debian developer will have more weight with the GNOME people than some random guy like me making a request. > The problem with xterm breaking in xorg, I believe is fixable without > re-compiling it ... Sure was. I purged and reinstalled it and it's fine. Now: should I file a bug against xterm, or xorg, because the upgrade process is broken? Or do you think the maintainers know that? Thank you, Greg. And Kevin, too, for making useful suggestions. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you attempt to fix something that isn't broken, it will be. -Bruce Tognazzini -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Paste with translation table into gnome-terminal?
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 11:03 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions as to my actual question, or should I take > it up with the GNOME developers? Or even violate what I just wrote and file > a Debian bug and let the Debian developers take it up with the GNOME > developers? The actual problem is a GNOME problem. Going along with the "Sane Defaults" and Limiting the options you have for "touchy-feely" or Look and feel of the Desktop environment. As my saying goes: Praise be to Havoc! (Pennington) Not that I disagree with the ideals behind his implementations, just that his implementation, ritualistic sacrificing of knob and buttons to the HCI Gods, has me a bit (read as: a lot) ticked off. Don't bring up the fact that you *CAN* still change stuff using gconftool or other lovely "registry style" editor. It is one of my pet peeves with GNOME. I still use GNOME, mainly because all current desktop environments suck, GNOME sucks the least (at least to me). The actual problem is with Language Handling and the simplification of it for End users. Which means, file a bug report *SOMEWHERE* where you feel it will at least be looked at. The problem with xterm breaking in xorg, I believe is fixable without re-compiling it. As I am using "clean" rather than the default without problems. It might be a personal config issue, which had to change with the nomenclature of font specification changed with xorg. Though, I could be wrong on the font spec change. I do know that xterm changed when i upgraded to the xorg v7 setup (integrating everything into the standard file locations vs /*/X11/ setup. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The technology that is Stronger, Better, Faster: Linux Use Debian GNU/Linux, its a bazaar thing NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice, and certainly without probable cause. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Paste with translation table into gnome-terminal?
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:16:16PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > As I posted to this list a while back, I have had to abandon xterm in favor > of gnome-terminal because some aspect of the xorg upgrade made the xterm > font unchangeable. > > One annoyance is that I can't post from a GUI app into gnome-terminal if any > character in the selection is non-ASCII (for instance, an em dash or "real" > apostrophe). Is there any way to force gnome-terminal to convert, say, em > dash into two hyphens and real apostrophes into '? > > BTW, a basic principle of user interface design is that nothing should ever > fail silently. When I try to paste into gnome-terminal with a non-allowed > character, it fails silenty, which is simply wrong. Hi Carl, I just started using mlterm (needs efonts). Maybe try another term. Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Paste with translation table into gnome-terminal?
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 11:57:15AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I posted to this list a while back, I have had to abandon xterm in favor > > of gnome-terminal because some aspect of the xorg upgrade made the xterm > > font unchangeable. > > oh. Which bug report is that? > > (Debian has a bug-reporting system, which doesn't seem to > read random news groups). Um, Thomas, I've been reporting bugs for something like ten years. But I've given up, because they never get fixed (see VLC for an example) until the developer happens to feel like it, or just never. And the xorg thing is not going to be be fixed, because it's an effect of upgrading, which the developers don't care about, because by the time Etch is actually released, the upgrade process will be different, anyway. So reporting it would be pointless. Like the fact that xdm and gdm stopped working with the upgrade. (Luckily it only took an hour of fiddling for me to make startx work.) Note: the above "never get fixed" slam is not meant for all you conscientious people who fix everything instantly. It's the curse of how the human mind works that you aren't noticed, because you don't annoy me. And "random news groups"? This is a totally non-random mailing list devoted to Debian, and many developers do read it. And it's "newsgroups". No space. Since you brought it up. Does anyone have any suggestions as to my actual question, or should I take it up with the GNOME developers? Or even violate what I just wrote and file a Debian bug and let the Debian developers take it up with the GNOME developers? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Paste with translation table into gnome-terminal?
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I posted to this list a while back, I have had to abandon xterm in favor > of gnome-terminal because some aspect of the xorg upgrade made the xterm > font unchangeable. oh. Which bug report is that? (Debian has a bug-reporting system, which doesn't seem to read random news groups). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
