Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)
Johannes Wiedersich schreef: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-20 07:27, Merciadri Luca wrote: [snip] Yes, but there are some nuances. Let's take my example: how would you have done this? You need to transmit the document, but the receivers are sufficiently dishonest to print it and to claim they are the authors. Haven't Academicians had this problem for centuries? How have the rest of them solved it in the past 30 years? The usual solution in academia is just to publish the results. Once they are published with your name on it, it will be easy to prove later plagiarism. May I advertise arXiv for this purpose? http://arxiv.org/ Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Johannes Wiedersich schreef: May I advertise arXiv for this purpose? http://arxiv.org/ arXiv is a nice website. I tried it, but there is already a repo for my university. Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Instruction ends in the schoolroom, but education ends only with life. (F. W. Robertson) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)
Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-20 07:27, Merciadri Luca wrote: [snip] Haven't Academicians had this problem for centuries? How have the rest of them solved it in the past 30 years? Sure. I don't know precisely. In addition to a watermark, in both the header and footer I'd write something like: Original research of Merciadri Luca, University of Blah, 15-Apr-2010 One can still chop off header and footers. That is fairly easy. If I were paranoid, I'd then print multiple copies and file them with your adviser, the Office of Academic Responsibility, get it stamped/dated by a Notary Public[0], etc, etc. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notary_public Nice idea. I will think about these solutions for the next time, if any. To come back to the main topic, I am * happy to see that Debian's tools (like any other free tools) let the user choose (or at least oblige him to follow the `free' path) about what he can do with a protected document; * (still, but about something else now) questioning: are there any (free, naturally) packages/programs which can take watermarks out of documents, and which can deliberately (i.e. it is one of their main features) unprotect a PDF document? I ask this because this would follow the `Free' philosophy, but by litteraly encasing one's liberty. I don't even want names, I just want to know if it exists in Debian's repos. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. First deserve, then desire. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:13:01 -0400 (EDT), Merciadri Luca wrote: One can still chop off header and footers. That is fairly easy. I haven't been following this thread. I just took a look at it today, primarily because there's been so much activity on it. So it's quite possible that I'm repeating sentiments that have been expressed by others already. If so, please excuse the repetition. Basically, there is no foolproof protection against plagiarism. Any lock that can be invented by a mortal man can probably be picked eventually. If anyone but you sees it, even once, your work is unprotected. Who knows, he might have a photographic memory. Some people do. But then again, if no-one sees it but you, what's the point? Protection against plagiarism basically comes down to the honor system. And not everyone is honorable. But remember this, if it's any consolation. Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery. That's my two cents worth. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/57412780.169322.1271773849573.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)
Stephen Powell wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:13:01 -0400 (EDT), Merciadri Luca wrote: I haven't been following this thread. I just took a look at it today, primarily because there's been so much activity on it. So it's quite possible that I'm repeating sentiments that have been expressed by others already. If so, please excuse the repetition. Basically, there is no foolproof protection against plagiarism. Any lock that can be invented by a mortal man can probably be picked eventually. If anyone but you sees it, even once, your work is unprotected. Who knows, he might have a photographic memory. Some people do. But then again, if no-one sees it but you, what's the point? Protection against plagiarism basically comes down to the honor system. And not everyone is honorable. I agree with you. But remember this, if it's any consolation. Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery. Paradoxally. But nice for the morale. Thanks for your answers. This gives me a practical point of view about what can, and cannot be done with such problems, and their CS counterparts. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Plagiarism (was Re: PDF is blocked for ...)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-20 07:27, Merciadri Luca wrote: [snip] Yes, but there are some nuances. Let's take my example: how would you have done this? You need to transmit the document, but the receivers are sufficiently dishonest to print it and to claim they are the authors. Haven't Academicians had this problem for centuries? How have the rest of them solved it in the past 30 years? The usual solution in academia is just to publish the results. Once they are published with your name on it, it will be easy to prove later plagiarism. - -- Johannes In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. - - Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkvN/s8ACgkQC1NzPRl9qEUcNwCdFsU3+gXyUzfqUgRzXpTaxrR3 5rYAnih+re/hm9XwHWxfW7KWKGseuAPc =FvS0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bcdfecf.9080...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de
