Re: Power-down/halt problem in Debian Squeeze
Sorry, Andrei. This is a firmware-related problem. Power down fails, when iternal Intel Graphics Card activated. As a solution - external graphics card. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/090347ab-7319-4d7a-9461-5991627e5...@w2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com
Re: Power-down/halt problem in Debian Squeeze
Looks like the system is doing it's thing, but fails to actually power down the hardware. This could indicate some ACPI problems. You could search for ACPI related problems with your mainboard. Also a BIOS update might help. It started happening after a kernel upgrade. Before that everything was fine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/549b8117-3f49-459a-8a42-1251d5672...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com
Re: Power-down/halt problem in Debian Squeeze
On Mi, 22 dec 10, 00:46:44, Неумник Некий wrote: Please reproduce as accurate as you can the last 4-5 lines on screen. Sorry for delay. There is: [ ... ] ACPI: preparing to enter system sleep state S5 [ ... ] Disabling non-boot CPUs [ ... ] CPU 1 now offline [ ... ] SMP alternatives switching to UP code [ ... ] Power down Looks like the system is doing it's thing, but fails to actually power down the hardware. This could indicate some ACPI problems. You could search for ACPI related problems with your mainboard. Also a BIOS update might help. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Power-down/halt problem in Debian Squeeze
Please reproduce as accurate as you can the last 4-5 lines on screen. Sorry for delay. There is: [ ... ] ACPI: preparing to enter system sleep state S5 [ ... ] Disabling non-boot CPUs [ ... ] CPU 1 now offline [ ... ] SMP alternatives switching to UP code [ ... ] Power down -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dfe749ab-155f-49b2-a960-a364d228d...@c2g2000yqc.googlegroups.com
Re: Power-down/halt problem in Debian Squeeze
On Lu, 13 dec 10, 14:07:07, Неумник Некий wrote: At first, sorry for my English. When i 'halt' my computer it freezes after 'Power down' message in FrameBuffer console. RC-levels works properly. After that: - stopping md-devices; - lvm devices - system try to switch ACPI-level. Helps only hardware power-off. Please reproduce as accurate as you can the last 4-5 lines on screen. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Power down
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:17:59 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt to try Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on, but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid, deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and it worked. So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the power management in the bios? Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance. Elmer lsmod should tell you what modules you have loaded. I bet 'acpi' is there. You should also install acpid and acpitool to have some control/monitoring (was that a laptop?). But that's just fine-tuning ;) Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 12:58 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:17:59 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt to try Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on, but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid, deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and it worked. So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the power management in the bios? Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance. Elmer lsmod should tell you what modules you have loaded. I bet 'acpi' is there. You should also install acpid and acpitool to have some control/monitoring (was that a laptop?). But that's just fine-tuning ;) Andrei -- No acpi in the list from lsmod. The computer in question is an old Dell 333 desktop. Acpi works ok on my IBM R40 laptop. Lsmod on the latter doesn't list acpi, but does list ac and battery which are related tools. Acpid works on the laptop, but just results in logging fatal errors on the desktop. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:55 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 17 January 2006 12:58 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:17:59 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt to try Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on, but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid, deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and it worked. So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the power management in the bios? Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance. Elmer lsmod should tell you what modules you have loaded. I bet 'acpi' is there. You should also install acpid and acpitool to have some control/monitoring (was that a laptop?). But that's just fine-tuning ;) Andrei -- No acpi in the list from lsmod. The computer in question is an old Dell 333 desktop. Acpi works ok on my IBM R40 laptop. Lsmod on the latter doesn't list acpi, but does list ac and battery which are related tools. Acpid works on the laptop, but just results in logging fatal errors on the desktop. Elmer Even now with the 'acpi=force' option? It's normal to have errors because acpi was turned off in your previous attempt, but what the heck...important is you have the shutdown issue solved ;) Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Elmer E. Dow wrote: I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Are you shure that power down is supported by your bios? On rather old hardware it might not be supported at all. Then you just have to turn the switch by hand. Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Do you have apm=power_off passed to your kernel? Andrei On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:26 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Elmer E. Dow wrote: I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Are you shure that power down is supported by your bios? On rather old hardware it might not be supported at all. Then you just have to turn the switch by hand. Johannes It worked with Win98, Red Hat and Libranet. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Andrei Popescu wrote: Do you have apm=power_off passed to your kernel? Andrei On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:26 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tried adding apm=power_off to /boot/grub/menu.lst. No change in behavior. Still no shutting off at powerdown. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
On 1/16/06, Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: Do you have apm=power_off passed to your kernel? Andrei On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:26 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tried adding apm=power_off to /boot/grub/menu.lst. No change in behavior. Still no shutting off at powerdown. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] we probably need to see your dmesg right after boot. there may be something in there to hint at what it wrong. dmesg file.txt -- Noah Dain Single failures can occur for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with a hardware defect, such as cosmic radiation ... - IBM Thinkpad R40 maintenance manual, page 25
Re: Power down
Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! Regards, Vincent Elmer E. Dow wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Noah Dain wrote: On 1/16/06, Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: Do you have apm=power_off passed to your kernel? Andrei On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:26 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tried adding apm=power_off to /boot/grub/menu.lst. No change in behavior. Still no shutting off at powerdown. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] we probably need to see your dmesg right after boot. there may be something in there to hint at what it wrong. dmesg file.txt -- Noah Dain Single failures can occur for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with a hardware defect, such as cosmic radiation ... - IBM Thinkpad R40 maintenance manual, page 25 Here's dmesg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 0009f800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000e7400 - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 040fdc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 040fdc00 - 040ff800 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 040ff800 - 040ffc00 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 040ffc00 - 0c00 (usable) BIOS-e820: fffe7400 - 0001 (reserved) 192MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 49152 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 45056 pages, LIFO batch:11 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.1 present. ACPI disabled because your bios is from 99 and too old You can enable it with acpi=force Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off apm=power_off Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Found and enabled local APIC! Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes) Detected 331.985 MHz processor. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Memory: 187476k/196608k available (1336k kernel code, 8468k reserved, 732k data, 204k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay loop... 653.31 BogoMIPS Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0183fbff CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0183fbff CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 128K CPU: After all inits, caps:0183fbff 0040 CPU: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 00 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Checking for popad bug... OK. enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: ESR value after enabling vector: Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... . CPU clock speed is 331.0791 MHz. . host bus clock speed is 66.0358 MHz. checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (ungzip failed); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 4216k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 EISA bus registered PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd994, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support... PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00f6fb0 PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf:0x9db6, dseg 0x400 pnp:
Re: Power down
Elmer E. Dow wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Elmer E. Dow wrote: I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Are you shure that power down is supported by your bios? On rather old hardware it might not be supported at all. Then you just have to turn the switch by hand. Johannes It worked with Win98, Red Hat and Libranet. Elmer Well, as I said earlier, in my case it didn't work with the debian 2.6.8-kernel. My notebook worked with Suse, so I just installed a newer kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux johannes2 2.6.12-johannes2 #1 Sat Nov 5 15:19:13 CET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux ...maybe it's a problem with 2.6.8 or Debian's version of it. Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt to try Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt to try Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on, but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid, deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and it worked. So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the power management in the bios? Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
On Friday 13 January 2006 08:33, Felipe Ledesma wrote: Hi My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? Thanks Have a look in the bios, it might be disabled. Also, some kernels for special systems, like a realtime server for machine control, must shut this off due to considerations about its effects on the realtime. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
On 1/13/06, Felipe Ledesma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. -- Noah Dain Single failures can occur for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with a hardware defect, such as cosmic radiation ... - IBM Thinkpad R40 maintenance manual, page 25
Re: Power down
Le Vendredi 13 Janvier 2006 14:33, Felipe Ledesma a écrit : you should also check the content of /etc/default/halt Hi My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? Thanks
Re: Power Down en Debian Sarge 3.1 r1
El 4/01/06, Alfredo Rico[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola amigos, reciban un muy cordial saludo... He instalado Debian Sarge 3.1 r1 ( con kernel 2.6 ) en mi PC Pentium III con tarjeta madre SIS 756. El problema es que cuando ejecuto shutdown -h now mi computador no se apaga automáticamente, sino que se queda en Power Down. He efectuado apt-get install apmd pero instalación evidentemente por si sola no lo hace todo. También he leido sobre recompilar el kernel para agregar el módulo apm, pero realmente soy algo nuevo en linux y no se como empezar a hacer esto. ¿ Esta sería la única forma de solucionar esto ? ¿ Podrían darme algunas sugerencias ? Primero, no siempre es apmd el paquete a instalar. Hay dos sistemas de gestión de energía, APM y ACPI. El segundo es más moderno que el primero. Has de instalar el que tu bios soporte (apmd o acpid). En principio, ambos dejan el sistema mínimamente configurado, y lo de que se apague del todo debería funcionar. Ah!, muchos ordenadores soportan ambos sistemas, pero la tendencia es a abandonar apm. Si no te funciona puede ser por estas causas: 1- No tienes cargado el módulo del kernel (el apm necesita el modulo apm (no se si será exactamente así) y acpi es más modular, pero los modulos ac y De antemano les agradezco su orientación al respecto. -- Saludos Cordiales.- Alfredo Rico. -- Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei] ___ [ WWW ] http://www.ayanami.es [jabber] rei[en]bulmalug.net
Re: Power Down en Debian Sarge 3.1 r1
Me he quedado a medias!! El 4/01/06, Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei][EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El 4/01/06, Alfredo Rico[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola amigos, reciban un muy cordial saludo... He instalado Debian Sarge 3.1 r1 ( con kernel 2.6 ) en mi PC Pentium III con tarjeta madre SIS 756. El problema es que cuando ejecuto shutdown -h now mi computador no se apaga automáticamente, sino que se queda en Power Down. He efectuado apt-get install apmd pero instalación evidentemente por si sola no lo hace todo. También he leido sobre recompilar el kernel para agregar el módulo apm, pero realmente soy algo nuevo en linux y no se como empezar a hacer esto. ¿ Esta sería la única forma de solucionar esto ? ¿ Podrían darme algunas sugerencias ? Primero, no siempre es apmd el paquete a instalar. Hay dos sistemas de gestión de energía, APM y ACPI. El segundo es más moderno que el primero. Has de instalar el que tu bios soporte (apmd o acpid). En principio, ambos dejan el sistema mínimamente configurado, y lo de que se apague del todo debería funcionar. Ah!, muchos ordenadores soportan ambos sistemas, pero la tendencia es a abandonar apm. Si no te funciona puede ser por estas causas: 1- No tienes cargado el módulo del kernel (el apm necesita el modulo apm (no se si será exactamente así) y acpi es más modular, pero los modulos ac y ... y button deberías cargarlos. Si tienes un ibm, toshiba o una placa asus, carga respectivamente ibm_acpi toshiba_acpi asus_acpi Para cargar modulos: modprobe nombredelmodulo Para ver modulos cargados: lsmod 2- No tienes configurado el sistema para que al apagar desconecte del todo el equipo. prueba a ejecutar halt -p como root, si esta todo bien salvo la configuración, el equipo debería apagarse. 3- Has escogido el sistema de gestión de energía que no toca. Pasa a usar acpi. Nota, acpi es más modular y tiene muchas más cosas que modificar que apm. Una que me parece muy útil es la siguiente: Tras instalar acpid, asegurate de que el modulo button está cargado. Ve a /etc/acpi, verá un script llamado powerbtn.sh, dale permisos de ejecución. Ahora al pulsar el boton de encendido/apagado del pc, se inicia la secuencia de apagado del sistema. Si lo mantienes apretado un buen rato, tras unos 5 o 6 segudnos el equipo se apgará a lo bestia (como lo ha hecho toda la vida al darle al power). Saludos Aritz Beraza [Rei] -- Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei] ___ [ WWW ] http://www.ayanami.es [jabber] rei[en]bulmalug.net
Re: Power Down en Debian Sarge 3.1 r1
Muchisima gracias por tus sugerencias Aritz, voy a probarlas en cuanto a llegue a mi casa, e inmediatamente te comentaré a tí y a la lista que resultados obtuve :-) Saludos cordiales. Alfredo Rico.- On 1/4/06, Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me he quedado a medias!! El 4/01/06, Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei][EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El 4/01/06, Alfredo Rico[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola amigos, reciban un muy cordial saludo... He instalado Debian Sarge 3.1 r1 ( con kernel 2.6 ) en mi PC Pentium III con tarjeta madre SIS 756. El problema es que cuando ejecuto shutdown -h now mi computador no se apaga automáticamente, sino que se queda en Power Down. He efectuado apt-get install apmd pero instalación evidentemente por si sola no lo hace todo. También he leido sobre recompilar el kernel para agregar el módulo apm, pero realmente soy algo nuevo en linux y no se como empezar a hacer esto. ¿ Esta sería la única forma de solucionar esto ? ¿ Podrían darme algunas sugerencias ? Primero, no siempre es apmd el paquete a instalar. Hay dos sistemas de gestión de energía, APM y ACPI. El segundo es más moderno que el primero. Has de instalar el que tu bios soporte (apmd o acpid). En principio, ambos dejan el sistema mínimamente configurado, y lo de que se apague del todo debería funcionar. Ah!, muchos ordenadores soportan ambos sistemas, pero la tendencia es a abandonar apm. Si no te funciona puede ser por estas causas: 1- No tienes cargado el módulo del kernel (el apm necesita el modulo apm (no se si será exactamente así) y acpi es más modular, pero los modulos ac y ... y button deberías cargarlos. Si tienes un ibm, toshiba o una placa asus, carga respectivamente ibm_acpi toshiba_acpi asus_acpi Para cargar modulos: modprobe nombredelmodulo Para ver modulos cargados: lsmod 2- No tienes configurado el sistema para que al apagar desconecte del todo el equipo. prueba a ejecutar halt -p como root, si esta todo bien salvo la configuración, el equipo debería apagarse. 3- Has escogido el sistema de gestión de energía que no toca. Pasa a usar acpi. Nota, acpi es más modular y tiene muchas más cosas que modificar que apm. Una que me parece muy útil es la siguiente: Tras instalar acpid, asegurate de que el modulo button está cargado. Ve a /etc/acpi, verá un script llamado powerbtn.sh, dale permisos de ejecución. Ahora al pulsar el boton de encendido/apagado del pc, se inicia la secuencia de apagado del sistema. Si lo mantienes apretado un buen rato, tras unos 5 o 6 segudnos el equipo se apgará a lo bestia (como lo ha hecho toda la vida al darle al power). Saludos Aritz Beraza [Rei] -- Aritz Beraza Garayalde [Rei] ___ [ WWW ] http://www.ayanami.es [jabber] rei[en]bulmalug.net -- Saludos Cordiales.- Alfredo Rico. San Cristóbal - Venezuela.
Re: Power Down en Debian Sarge 3.1 r1
añade el modulo apm a /etc/modules Saludos Con fecha miércoles, 04 de enero de 2006, 11:30:49, escribió: Hola amigos, reciban un muy cordial saludo... He instalado Debian Sarge 3.1 r1 ( con kernel 2.6 ) en mi PC Pentium III con tarjeta madre SIS 756. El problema es que cuando ejecuto shutdown -h now mi computador no se apaga automáticamente, sino que se queda en Power Down. He efectuado apt-get install apmd pero instalación evidentemente por si sola no lo hace todo. También he leido sobre recompilar el kernel para agregar el módulo apm, pero realmente soy algo nuevo en linux y no se como empezar a hacer esto. ¿ Esta sería la única forma de solucionar esto ? ¿ Podrían darme algunas sugerencias ? De antemano les agradezco su orientación al respecto. -- Saludos Cordiales.- Alfredo Rico. Cordiales Saludos -- La Voluntad es el unico motor de nuestros logros Mstaaravin /
Re: power down sorunu
ozgur oktay nar yazmış: merhaba , yeni başlayan biri olarak nihayet hangi linuxu kullanacağıma karar verdim.önceden mandrake deneyimim olmuştuuzun aradan sonra sarge yükledim. 1. ATX kasam otomatik olarak power down olmuyor. benim de eski bilgisayarım otomatik kapanmıyor, normalde bu bilgisayar windows kullanırken otomatik kapanabiliyordu, yani en azından benim durumum anakartımın eskiliğinden olmasa gerek. pek uğraşmadım. ama çözümünü bilemiyorum. 2.sarge yükledikten sonra takılan ikinci harddiskimi nasıl tanıtır ve bağlarım.fstab ... falan denedim ama bazı hatalar verdi. hard diskinizin discover yada hotplug gibi sisteme takılan aygıtları algılamak için çalıştırılan programlar tarafından sisteme tanıtılmış olması gerekir. eğer bu sisteminizdeki ikinci hardisk ise, hard diskin aygıt dosyası /dev/hdb olacaktır (tatığınız harddisk sata ise durum farklı olur, sata disklerin dosyaları /dev/sdX gibi adlandırılır), bu arada diskinizi bir dosya sistemiyle formatladınız mı? formatlamadıysanız mkfs.ext3 yada mkfs gibi komutlarla formatlayabilirsiniz. formatladıysanız zaten diski bağlayabilmeniz gerek. 3.Cd rom eject tuşu çalışmıyor. Nasıl çözebilirim. linux dağıtımlarında sisteme bağlanan cdrom gibi aygıtlar sistemden ayrılmadan cdrom'un eject tuşu cd'yi çıkarmaz. eğer gnome kullanıyorsanız cd'nin bir kısayolu masaüstünüze oluşturuluyor olması lazım. oluşturuluyorsa bu kısayola sağ tıklayıp menünün en son seçeneği olan Sistemden ayır seçeneğine seçtiğinizde cd hem sistemden ayrılacaktır, hem de cd otomatik olarak çıkarılacaktır. eğer masaüstüne bu kısayol oluşturulmuyorsa, aynı kısayol masaüstündeki Bilgisayarın içeriğinde de var. hiç olmadı şu komutu kullanabilirsiniz, eject /media/cdrom0 kolay gelsin. şimdiden çok teşekkür ediyorum. yaşasın debian _ Sohbet ve eğlence, web kamera ve sesli sohbet Messenger'de. http://messenger.msn.com/?mkt=trDI=3490XAPID=2584 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: power down sorunu]
yanlışlıkla bana gelmiş, iletiyorum. ---BeginMessage--- Merhaba , Debian dünyasında yeniyim ama Linux'ta eski saylılırım :) Örnek olması için bir fstab dosyası aşağıdaki gibidir. # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/hda7 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfatusers,utf8 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfatusers,utf8 0 0 /dev/hda6 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdb(*) /mnt/(**) vfatusers,utf8 0 0 Bu yapılandırma ile cdromu istediğiniz zaman elle çıkarıp takabilirsiniz, yani eject tuşu çalışır :) atx kasa sorununuza verecek bir yanıt bulamadım.. ikinci harddisk konusunda ise şunu söylemek lazım /dev dizinine baktığınızda orada hdb1 hdb2 gibi bağlar görebiliyorsanız yukarıdaki çözüm önerisi işinizi görür. * diskinizin kaç parça olduğuna göre değişir. örneğin tek parca ise * =1 ** mnt dizinine yenbir klasör oluşturup buraya adını yazıyoruz. Yardımım olduysa ne mutlu.. Bol debian'lı günler... Kolay gelsin ... Hamza Hamzaoğlu On 7/13/05, Azer Demir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ozgur oktay nar yazmış: merhaba , yeni başlayan biri olarak nihayet hangi linuxu kullanacağıma karar verdim.önceden mandrake deneyimim olmuştuuzun aradan sonra sarge yükledim. 1. ATX kasam otomatik olarak power down olmuyor. benim de eski bilgisayarım otomatik kapanmıyor, normalde bu bilgisayar windows kullanırken otomatik kapanabiliyordu, yani en azından benim durumum anakartımın eskiliğinden olmasa gerek. pek uğraşmadım. ama çözümünü bilemiyorum. 2.sarge yükledikten sonra takılan ikinci harddiskimi nasıl tanıtır ve bağlarım.fstab ... falan denedim ama bazı hatalar verdi. hard diskinizin discover yada hotplug gibi sisteme takılan aygıtları algılamak için çalıştırılan programlar tarafından sisteme tanıtılmış olması gerekir. eğer bu sisteminizdeki ikinci hardisk ise, hard diskin aygıt dosyası /dev/hdb olacaktır (tatığınız harddisk sata ise durum farklı olur, sata disklerin dosyaları /dev/sdX gibi adlandırılır), bu arada diskinizi bir dosya sistemiyle formatladınız mı? formatlamadıysanız mkfs.ext3 yada mkfs gibi komutlarla formatlayabilirsiniz. formatladıysanız zaten diski bağlayabilmeniz gerek. 3.Cd rom eject tuşu çalışmıyor. Nasıl çözebilirim. linux dağıtımlarında sisteme bağlanan cdrom gibi aygıtlar sistemden ayrılmadan cdrom'un eject tuşu cd'yi çıkarmaz. eğer gnome kullanıyorsanız cd'nin bir kısayolu masaüstünüze oluşturuluyor olması lazım. oluşturuluyorsa bu kısayola sağ tıklayıp menünün en son seçeneği olan Sistemden ayır seçeneğine seçtiğinizde cd hem sistemden ayrılacaktır, hem de cd otomatik olarak çıkarılacaktır. eğer masaüstüne bu kısayol oluşturulmuyorsa, aynı kısayol masaüstündeki Bilgisayarın içeriğinde de var. hiç olmadı şu komutu kullanabilirsiniz, eject /media/cdrom0 kolay gelsin. şimdiden çok teşekkür ediyorum. yaşasın debian _ Sohbet ve eğlence, web kamera ve sesli sohbet Messenger'de. http://messenger.msn.com/?mkt=trDI=3490XAPID=2584 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
Re: Power Down ou Arrt Machine
Le jeudi 08 janvier 2004, Philippe Merlin a écrit... bonjour, Un noyau avec APM, entraîne un magnifique kernel error au moment de l'arrêt supposé de la machine. Tu as quoi comme options concernant l'APM dans le /boot/config-tonNoyau ? -- jean-michel
Re: Power Down ou Arrêt Machine
Le 12425ième jour après Epoch, Philippe Merlin écrivait: Bonjour, J'avais déjà envoyé ce message, mais aucune réponse de la liste c'est bien rare, j'espère que cette fois j'aurai plus de chance. Ne t'inquiètes pas. La majorité de mes questions restent sans réponses :( Je n'ai jamais réussi à arrèter mon PC agé D'un an + , autrement qu'en utilisant le bouton d'arrêt, pour moi le mot Power OFF n'a jamais signifié un arrêt électrique de cette machine. [...] A mon avis, la technique la plus robuste est le mode APM. Power Managemen: t User Define Tu dois avoir plus de détails sur cette option en général. Mais cela n'influe pas sur l'arrêt électrique complet. Cette option sert en général à configurer les dispositifs (écran, DD, etc.) devant subir la gestion électrique. PM Control by APM : No Perso, je mets Yes. Power ON\Wake Up Function Soft_Off by PWR-BTTN : instant-Off SLEEP BUTTON : Disabled .. : Disabled Tout pareil. 2 conseils: - Vérifie dans la log de démarrage qu'il n'y ait pas de message du type 'buggy BIOS' ou équivalent - Cherche une mise à jour éventuelle de ton BIOS, au cas où. -- OS/2 ... Half an OS
Re: power down and power off also?
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 11:53:05PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Friday 22 November 2002 23:48, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all! is there a way in which i can make linux work in a similar way? meaning, i select halt and just have to switch off the main switch? enable power management in your kernel. thanx for help. how? i am sorry if this seems like a basic question. i am still a novice user. :) -- regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** Many are called, few are chosen. Fewer still get to do the choosing. msg14767/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: power down and power off also?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:33:19AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 01:45:42PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 11:53:05PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Friday 22 November 2002 23:48, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: You know, you are asking lots of question here for basic GNU/Linux things. I think it is time for you to read some introductory book on Debian. Yep, how about reading my Debian Reference. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ For above question, it is detailed http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-apm sure i will give it a try. but they sound too technical for a newbie like me. but sure give it a try -- regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** Never put off till run-time what you can do at compile-time. -- D. Gries msg14778/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: power down and power off also?
On Saturday 23 November 2002 00:15, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 11:53:05PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Friday 22 November 2002 23:48, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all! is there a way in which i can make linux work in a similar way? meaning, i select halt and just have to switch off the main switch? enable power management in your kernel. thanx for help. how? i am sorry if this seems like a basic question. i am still a novice user. :) the Debian kernel ships with the ability to enabled as a boot option. otherwise when you build your own there is a section that asks about power management and turning the machine off. Sorry i can not help with exact directions I have not used the official Debian kernel in a long time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: power down and power off also?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 03:29:46PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:33:19AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: ... Yep, how about reading my Debian Reference. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ For above question, it is detailed http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-apm sure i will give it a try. but they sound too technical for a newbie like me. but sure give it a try That's fine with us, then you're the one to help improve those docs! Next time you're stuck, try to read Osamu's very fine reference manual. If you can't find your way in his reference, come here again, tell us what your problem is and *also* where you tried to find the anwser and in his docs. Then we can start to understand how those reference manuals actually should have been structured and what language we should have used and improve on that. You see Osamu spent a great deal of time and effort in writing that manual, and did a mighty good job. Besides it was ment for guys like you. So if you're lost, please help improve it even further. -- groetjes, carel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: power down and power off also?
Sandip, You might be looking for the command insmod apm shutdown, and if this works edit /etc/modules and add apm on a line by itself. Mike On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 01:18:54PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all! i have a dual boot system. it is a compaq machine. when i select shutdown in windows, the power indicator also goes off. when i do similarly in linux, it shuts down everything, finally says Power Down and stays there. is there a way in which i can make linux work in a similar way? meaning, i select halt and just have to switch off the main switch? -- regards, sandip p deshmukh --*** -- Mike Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: power down and power off also?
On Friday 22 November 2002 23:48, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all! i have a dual boot system. it is a compaq machine. when i select shutdown in windows, the power indicator also goes off. when i do similarly in linux, it shuts down everything, finally says Power Down and stays there. is there a way in which i can make linux work in a similar way? meaning, i select halt and just have to switch off the main switch? enable power management in your kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down. Meldung an serielles Display umleiten
On Sun, February 10, 2002 at 09:54:32, Andreas R?hrle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ich habe hier einen Rechner ohne Monitor aber mit einem Display an der seriellen Schnittstelle. Auf dieses Display m?chte ich die Power down Meldung umleiten. Das Problem ist, dass alle Prozesse beendet werden bevor diese Meldung ausgegeben wird und dass kein Zugriff auf die Festplatten mehr m?glich ist. Wie kann ich ein Shell-Skript oder Perl-Skript starten, das das SIGTERM und das SIGKILL ?berlebt? Welcher Prozess gibt eigentlich die Power down Meldung aus? hallo andreas, die power down meldung kommt vom kernel, und zwar via printk(). gehen sollte es so: kernel mit CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE=y neu compilen und dann beim booten console=ttyS0 als parameter übergeben. dann kriegt dein terminal zwar alle kernel meldungen ab, aber das dürfte nicht zu sehr stören. ich hab das nie selbst gemacht, also bin ich auch nicht sicher was den erfolg angeht. aber viel erfolg. gruß Frank. -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Power down. Meldung an serielles Display umleiten
Frank T. schrieb: hallo andreas, die power down meldung kommt vom kernel, und zwar via printk(). gehen sollte es so: kernel mit CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE=y neu compilen und dann beim booten console=ttyS0 als parameter übergeben. dann kriegt dein terminal zwar alle kernel meldungen ab, aber das dürfte nicht zu sehr stören. ich hab das nie selbst gemacht, also bin ich auch nicht sicher was den erfolg angeht. aber viel erfolg. Hallo, ich hab das heute mal ausprobiert und es funktioniert wunderbar. Nochmal vielen Dank an alle. MfG Andy -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Power down. Meldung an serielles Display umleiten
* Andreas Röhrle schrieb am 10.02.02 um 09:54 Uhr: Hallo, ich habe hier einen Rechner ohne Monitor aber mit einem Display an der seriellen Schnittstelle. Auf dieses Display möchte ich die Power down Meldung umleiten. Das Problem ist, dass alle Prozesse beendet werden bevor diese Meldung ausgegeben wird und dass kein Zugriff auf die Festplatten mehr möglich ist. Wie kann ich ein Shell-Skript oder Perl-Skript starten, das das SIGTERM und das SIGKILL überlebt? Welcher Prozess gibt eigentlich die Power down Meldung aus? Hallo Andreas, ueber bootparameter kannst du die Kernelausgaben direkt auf das serielle device lenken. Dann kannst du der Maschine beim booten und beim herunterfahren zuschauen. Beispiel: append=console=ttyS0,9600n8 in deine lilo.conf eintragen. Der Kernel muss dass natuerlich auch unterstuetzen. Wenn du keinen selbstkompilierten hast, sollte der support in jedem Fall drin sein. Siehe dazu z.B. auch /usr/src/linux/Documentation/serial-console.txt Gruss -Marc -- +-O . . . o . . . O . . . o . . . O . . . ___ . . . O . . . o .-+ | Ein neuer Service von Links2Linux.de: / o\ RPMs for SuSE | | -- PackMan! -- naeheres unter| __| and others| | http://packman.links2linux.de/ . . . O \__\ . . . O . . . O . | -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Power down. Meldung an serielles Display umleiten
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:54:32 Andreas Röhrle wrote: Wie kann ich ein Shell-Skript oder Perl-Skript starten, das das SIGTERM und das SIGKILL überlebt? Lies man 7 signal. Meiner Meinung nach kann man Sigkill nicht abfangen. Welcher Prozess gibt eigentlich die Power down Meldung aus? Das ist wahrscheinlich kein Prozeß, die Meldung steht z.B. in /usr/src/linux/kernel/sys.c JörnA -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: power down
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:31:29PM -0800, Alan Su scribbled... as long as you have the kernel option to power off on shutdown selected, it should do the right thing. if the screen is black, it sounds like it has. is the fan still spinning? is the disk still spinning? are you sure the green light isn't normal (if you have mains power plugged in, perhaps)? The green LED is the power indicator, the AC indicator is different. As far as I can tell things are spinning down, but it seems more like an extreme sleep mode to me. If I hold the power button for six seconds, it turns off (which is how it's supposed to turn off). But I know it can be software controlled, because windoze does it. Incidentally...where is the power off on shutdown option? On my desktop boxes I just enable APM Bios Support, and it powers down, on the notebook I have far more than that enabled.
Re: power down
Incidentally...where is the power off on shutdown option? On my desktop boxes I just enable APM Bios Support, and it powers down, on the notebook I have far more than that enabled. in make menuconfig, it is one of the last options in the APM section. Some modern laptops do not respond to this. Doing a quick google search may help you find the answer.
Re: power down
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:38:32 -0700 Jason Majors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:31:29PM -0800, Alan Su scribbled... as long as you have the kernel option to power off on shutdown selected, it should do the right thing. if the screen is black, it sounds like it has. is the fan still spinning? is the disk still spinning? are you sure the green light isn't normal (if you have mains power plugged in, perhaps)? The green LED is the power indicator, the AC indicator is different. As far as I can tell things are spinning down, but it seems more like an extreme sleep mode to me. If I hold the power button for six seconds, it turns off (which is how it's supposed to turn off). But I know it can be software controlled, because windoze does it. From just this snippet of email, it sounds like my mobo is similar to yours: yes, it is a very deep sleep mode. Maybe there's an easier way to do it, but after ctrlaltdelete, I just hold down the power button once the mobo starts to reboot (before LILO takes over). Since I shut my box down so rarely, it isn't a problem for me... -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81| || ! Great Inventors of our time: | !Al Gore - Internet | !Sun Microsystems - Clusters| ++
Re: power down
--- Jason Majors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:31:29PM -0800, Alan Su scribbled... as long as you have the kernel option to power off on shutdown selected, it should do the right thing. if the screen is black, it sounds like it has. is the fan still spinning? is the disk still spinning? are you sure the green light isn't normal (if you have mains power plugged in, perhaps)? The green LED is the power indicator, the AC indicator is different. As far as I can tell things are spinning down, but it seems more like an extreme sleep mode to me. If I hold the power button for six seconds, it turns off (which is how it's supposed to turn off). But I know it can be software controlled, because windoze does it. Incidentally...where is the power off on shutdown option? On my desktop boxes I just enable APM Bios Support, and it powers down, on the notebook I have far more than that enabled. On my Pavilion n5450 in order for me to get it to shutdown with shutdown -h now I had added to lilo.conf append=apm=on and I also added to /etc/modules 'apm' . That shuts down my system completely. Don __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: power down
At 18:38 24/01/2002, Jason Majors wrote: The green LED is the power indicator, the AC indicator is different. As far as I can tell things are spinning down, but it seems more like an extreme sleep mode to me. If I hold the power button for six seconds, it turns off (which is how it's supposed to turn off). But I know it can be software controlled, because windoze does it. I'm having the same problem under 2.4.17 on a brand new AMD Duron MP system. I'm running the latest version of testing, with ACPI support enabled in a custom kernel (Since APM for MP systems is broken). I got as far as installing acpid to try and troubleshoot, but then got distracted by other things that needed sorting. The system leaves it's fans spinning, but shuts down video, and the power LED. Pressing and holding the power switch doesn't seem to turn it off (Probably just a BIOS difference). The system is a dual Duron 900 with 256M of ECC DDR memory, an Nvidia GF2 MX400, an SB Live! 5.1, and a tulip based NIC. Perhaps some time I'll get back to playing with acpid. M.
Re: power down
--begin quoted message from Sean 'Shaleh' Perry, Incidentally...where is the power off on shutdown option? On my desktop boxes I just enable APM Bios Support, and it powers down, on the notebook I have far more than that enabled. in make menuconfig, it is one of the last options in the APM section. Some modern laptops do not respond to this. Doing a quick google search may help you find the answer. and in make xconfig, the Advanced Power Management BIOS support is at the end of General Setup. (I prefer to do things graphically once I get a working config setup) -- Noah Massey | fingerprint : 90AD 7AAB 0768 46AF 8C52 0695 03A2 C74D E1ED C2BF The C Programming Language : A language which combines the flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language. Attached is a digital signature which can be used to authenticate this email. For details consult www.gnupg.org or www.pgpi.org pgpgUdOdH9cAw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: power down
Did you try to make APCI-modules and install apcid ? The modules you'll need for power down are system and maybe button. In my case that showed good (i.e. the expected) results, while the ACPI-bus module totally spoiled performance. Using APCI in 2.4.17 worked for the powerdown, however, now I can't find battery info and all that... The /proc/apci/battery/*/* files all say none.
Re: Power down
* dude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010807 10:35]: I have noticed that ever since 2.4.5 kernel, i am using 2.4.8 that my computer no longer shutoff when they are shutdown and i have to manually turn off the computers. What am i forgetting to do? I have selected the power control features in the kernel So you compiled your own kernel? I've been compiling my own kernel with ACPI for as long as I can remember, and I noticed the same thing. This seems to be because the new acpi subsystem writes info to /proc/acpi instead of the old /proc/sys/acpi, where acpid is still looking for it. I don't have a fix, but this might be the problem you're experiencing. My thinking was that I'll just wait for upstream acpid to roll in the change. Cheers -- Vineet http://www.anti-dmca.org Unauthorized use of this .sig may constitute violation of US law. Qba'g gernq ba zr!|tr 'a-zA-Z' 'n-za-mN-ZA-M' pgpMUytexoGsU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Power down
* Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i am using 2.4.8 that my computer no longer shutoff when they are shutdown and i have to manually turn off the computers. What am i forgetting to do? I have selected the power control features in the kernel So you compiled your own kernel? I've been compiling my own kernel with ACPI for as long as I can remember, and I noticed the same thing. This seems to be because the new acpi subsystem writes info to /proc/acpi instead of the old /proc/sys/acpi, where acpid is still looking for it. I don't have a fix, but this might be the problem you're experiencing. My thinking was that I'll just wait for upstream acpid to roll in the change. hi there, i recently had problems with the same thing, i couldn't get it to power down for a while in my compiled 2.4.7 kernel, but now i've fixed it. First of all i never used the ACPI stuff. Only APM, i enabled almost everything, and that was my problem, after disabling Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off It started powering off again, maybe this isn't your case but i hope it helps
Re: Power down
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, dude wrote: i am using 2.4.8 that my computer no longer shutoff when they are shutdown and i have to manually turn off the computers. What am i forgetting to do? In General Setup when using make config (or menu, x, whatever), have you set both Power Management Support and Advanced Power Management BIOS Support to Yes? You may need both.
Re: Power down
on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 09:02:29AM -0400, dude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have noticed that ever since 2.4.5 kernel, i am using 2.4.8 that my computer no longer shutoff when they are shutdown and i have to manually turn off the computers. What am i forgetting to do? APM is compiled in, but disabled by default, in vanilla kernels. You have to enable APM at boot time with a lilo boot prompt directive or a line in /etc/lilo.conf: apm=on Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA!http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hirehttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpXUk5FcHfiV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Power down
Hi, I think that, in lilo.conf, you must put append=apm=on just before the line default=... HTH, Rafael Sasaki On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 01:45:07PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 09:02:29AM -0400, dude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have noticed that ever since 2.4.5 kernel, i am using 2.4.8 that my computer no longer shutoff when they are shutdown and i have to manually turn off the computers. What am i forgetting to do? APM is compiled in, but disabled by default, in vanilla kernels. You have to enable APM at boot time with a lilo boot prompt directive or a line in /etc/lilo.conf: apm=on
Re: power down
For me, all this took was going into the BIOS and shutting off ALL of your power management stuff. Bummer if you have an ATX case, but nice if it stops lock-ups At 06:55 PM 4/19/99 -0700, you wrote: how can you stop linux form powering down when the computer is not in use. The computer that I am using locks up when this happens. Jason E Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eznet.com/~jasonw -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Life was hell, then I discovered Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cyillic only) http://www.concentric.net/~jsbaird
