Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-20 Thread csmall
Marcus Brinkmann typed:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > Lars Hallberg writes:
> > > I think smail refuses to rewrite the from: field.
> > 
> > Putting
> > 
> > from_field="From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($fullname)"
> > 
> > in  /etc/smail/config works for me.
> 
> I have the same line in my /etc/smail/config, but I feel *VERY* sick about
> it, because *EVERY* mail gets this From: field. No! The From: field must be
> user dependent, or there is something wrong. But after spending too much
There is a field, $user i think, that equals whatever should be to the left
of the @ symbol.  This may do what you want.

  - Craig
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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-20 Thread csmall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
> Lars Hallberg writes:
> > I think smail refuses to rewrite the from: field.
> 
> Putting
> 
>   from_field="From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($fullname)"
> 
> in  /etc/smail/config works for me.
With some versions of smail, you cannot do any substitution.  I suspect you
have a "good" version and the other poster has a "bad" version.

The above line wouldn't of worked on a version I use to run.  I haven't
tried it out on this current one.  If there is interest, I'll give it a go.

 - Craig


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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-20 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On Mar 20, Hamish Moffatt wrote
> > It is. Due to unclarity wrt ITAR for packages with hooks for crypto,
> > such as mutt, the Debian mutt packages resides on debian-non-US sites
> > nowadays. I've reported a bug against ftp.debian.org to get the old
> > package removed.
> 
> Which is odd, because the mutt web page states that the author (who
> resides in the US), does not want mutt exported from the US.  Odd that
> Debian takes it outside the US, and then won't let it be exported back. As
> I understand it, you should be able to import mutt (or any such weapons
> :-) just fine, but not re-export it.

It is difficult to prevent such re-export. My preferred way would be to have
'US-only' sites, where you can get mutt, pgp-us etc., but which take some
precautions, say like the mutt homesite does (you can download mutt from the
homesite from outside the US, but it resides in a subdir of an unreadable
US-only directory, whose name is in the README.us-only, thus making sure
that you are aware of the problems).

> I tried to get 0.65 (beta) to compile here on Solaris, but none of the US
> sites would let me have it and none of the non-US sites had it yet.

I always put a copy on 
ftp://ftp.wi.LeidenUniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray

Greetings,
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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mar 03, 1997 at 01:52:34PM +0100, J.H.M.Dassen wrote:
> On Mar 19, Alexander Koch wrote
> > So you may see what Mutt is like. But you should be careful.  I'd say:
> > stick with the Debian- MUTT- Package and you're fine. It's not as news as
> > the real MUTT but it _works_ (believe me, it's a bit tricky to make it
> 
> It is. Due to unclarity wrt ITAR for packages with hooks for crypto, such as
> mutt, the Debian mutt packages resides on debian-non-US sites nowadays. I've
> reported a bug against ftp.debian.org to get the old package removed.

Which is odd, because the mutt web page states that the author
(who resides in the US), does not want mutt exported from the US.
Odd that Debian takes it outside the US, and then won't let it
be exported back. As I understand it, you should be able to import
mutt (or any such weapons :-) just fine, but not re-export it.
Most of non-US though is software which uses RSA, which I understand
US users can't use because they use free RSA stuff, while
USA has patented RSA. (Must be a good point of discussion for the
LPF people?)

I tried to get 0.65 (beta) to compile here on Solaris, but
none of the US sites would let me have it and none of the
non-US sites had it yet.


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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-19 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On Mar 19, Alexander Koch wrote
> So you may see what Mutt is like. But you should be careful.  I'd say:
> stick with the Debian- MUTT- Package and you're fine. It's not as news as
> the real MUTT but it _works_ (believe me, it's a bit tricky to make it

It is. Due to unclarity wrt ITAR for packages with hooks for crypto, such as
mutt, the Debian mutt packages resides on debian-non-US sites nowadays. I've
reported a bug against ftp.debian.org to get the old package removed.

> work sometimes).

Basically, the Debian mutt package is simply the latest non-developer
release (i.e. one announced on mutt-announce), with all bugfix patches that
apply cleanly, and a matching Muttrc.

> Otherwise if you install it by hand and want to use it, you are better off
> following the mutt-users mailing list, there're still too much bugfixes and
> expermintal patches flying around. Remember: MUTT is still alpha software!

> Well, besides the point ELM 2.5 beta is _without_ PGP support at all
> there's only one choice for me. And please don't mention PINE, thanks. ,-)

The Debian elm-me+ package has PGP support.

Greetings,
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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-19 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Mar 19, Marcus Brinkmann wrote
: Hello!
: 
: I have the same line in my /etc/smail/config, but I feel *VERY* sick about
: it, because *EVERY* mail gets this From: field. No! The From: field must be
: user dependent, or there is something wrong. But after spending too much
: time about too much documentations, I didn't find a solution. Perhaps
: anybody out there can help? This will be very appriciated.

Try:

echo 'testmail' | /usr/sbin/smail somewhereout

and have a look into the files in /var/spool/smail/incoming or whereever
your mail gets relayed.   (Probably you should set the `queue_only' config
variable, or add the ?? option for queue_only to the above line.)


: (If it is of interest for this subject, I use elm but will try mutt soon)

... mutt seems to be really cool, for elm users.

Heiko
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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Lars Hallberg writes:
> > I think smail refuses to rewrite the from: field.
> 
> Putting
> 
>   from_field="From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($fullname)"
> 
> in  /etc/smail/config works for me.

I have the same line in my /etc/smail/config, but I feel *VERY* sick about
it, because *EVERY* mail gets this From: field. No! The From: field must be
user dependent, or there is something wrong. But after spending too much
time about too much documentations, I didn't find a solution. Perhaps
anybody out there can help? This will be very appriciated.

(If it is of interest for this subject, I use elm but will try mutt soon)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-19 Thread jghasler
Lars Hallberg writes:
> I think smail refuses to rewrite the from: field.

Putting

from_field="From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($fullname)"

in  /etc/smail/config works for me.
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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-18 Thread Graeme Stewart
"Jonathan A. Buzzard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> now connected via modem. It delivers mail fine *except* the "From:" field=
> =2E
> 
> Instead of reading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I get <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Having read


Just a thought, but what's your machine's entry in hosts? I have a
similar config at home and my hosts looks like...

207.3.132.200   glasgow.lancaster.mxglasgow

And my mail comes out as from "glasgow.lancaster.mx" just fine. I send
it from Emacs, which grabs the host name as "glasgow.lancaster.mx". 
Now, my guess is that if I had just "glasgow" in hosts, I'd get the
same problem as you.

What Lars Hallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said would, I think, back this up.

Hope that helps,

Graeme

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Re: Problem with Smail

1997-03-18 Thread Lars Hallberg
I think smail refuses to rewrite the from: field. So, if Your mail app is
adding a from: field smail will leave it unchanged. You have to make your
mail app add the right from: field (or non att all) to fix it. If You find
any other solution, please tell me

HTH /Lars

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jonathan A. Buzzard" writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After using Debian 0.93R6 for some 18 months, I took the opportunity of
> installing a bigger hard disk in my laptop to install 1.2 from the cover
> CD of Linux World. There where a few problems on the install, but most of=
> 
> the ones I found seem to have been fixed, and everything is running =
> 
> smoothly now.
> 
> Except I decided to go with smail rather than sendmail, as it is the
> recomended mail delivery agent, and sendmail seemed overkill for a system=
> 
> now connected via modem. It delivers mail fine *except* the "From:" field=
> =2E
> 
> Instead of reading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I get <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Having read
> all the avaliable documentation (bug report "man smailconfig" reports no
> manual entry) it would appear that in /etc/smail/config the option
> visible_name should read hex.prestel.co.uk which surprise surprise it doe=
> s.
> 
> I have since fiddled with every possible option that could conceivably ha=
> ve
> anything to do with this problem, all without result. It is now a week
> later and I am getting board with editing entries in /var/spool/smail/inp=
> ut
> to get outgoing mail correct.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> 
> JAB.
> 
> 
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