Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Jens Guenther]

On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 11:38:05AM -0500, Joe Block wrote:
> It isn't Apple's to release docs on - they just license it from Sorenson
> Vision (www.s-vision.com)

I asked Sorenson some time ago (after this subject was raised last time...)
and they told me, that they have not the right to license it to someone
else. I should contact Apple.

But they thanked me for showing interest in their product.

I guess this annoying codec issue will come up again and again. I hope
some time those responsible for this mess get the message.

Jens

Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Joe Block]

Evan Moore wrote:
> 
> there is the problem, xanime can not play Sorenson Video because apple
> will not release any docs on it.

It isn't Apple's to release docs on - they just license it from Sorenson
Vision (www.s-vision.com)

jpb
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Yeah I also saw that, but it failes to compile with: 
> 
> $ make
> gcc -c `./c_flags` atom.c
> In file included from codecs.h:10,
>  from private.h:9,
>  from quicktime.h:11,
>  from atom.c:2:
> jpeg.h:8: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory
> jpeg.h:9: png.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [atom.o] Error 1
> 
> I haven't figured out what package these might be in if any. 

You're missing the libpng2-dev and libjpeg62-dev libraries, according to
my slink system.

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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Joachim Trinkwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > Did you try xanim-modules in potato (it's an online-installer for
> > non-free modules which are not part of the core xanim)?
> 
> Yes I tried xanim and xanim-modules, but it says: 
> 
> $ xanim sample.mov
> XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights
> Reserved
>   Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18)
>   Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported.
>   Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
> Usage:
>XAnim [options] anim [ [options] anim ... ]
>-h  lists some common options, but may be out of date.
>See xanim.readme or the man page for detailed help.

That means you're not going to view this movie without Windows or a Mac
anytime soon.  It uses the Sorenson video codec; it's authors have been
uncooperative wrt support outside of helping Apple with it.  Anything else
is 200% out of the question (iirc).

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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Ron Farrer]

Matthew Dalton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Has anyone tried running the windows quicktime player under wine? Maybe
> this works?

Hmm, this may be helpful for others but I don't own or want to own an
x86. I try to use only my Alphas. Unless there was some way of running
wine under em86. Ohh well...  


Regards,

Ron
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Ron Farrer]

Arcady Genkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> How about libjpeg-dev, libpng-dev etc.?

Ahh thanks! Now I get past that error and now I get: 


make -C bcbase
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/rbf/xmovie/xmovie/bcbase'
g++ -c `./c_flags` bcbitmap.C
bcbitmap.C: In method `int BC_Bitmap::allocate_data()':
bcbitmap.C:699: implicit declaration of function `int
XShmGetEventBase(...)'
make[1]: *** [bcbitmap.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rbf/xmovie/xmovie/bcbase'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Anyone know how to fix this? 


TIA,

Ron 
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Matthew Dalton]

Ron Farrer wrote:
> Yes I tried xanim and xanim-modules, but it says:
> 
> $ xanim sample.mov
> XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights
> Reserved
>   Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18)
>   Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported.
>   Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
> Usage:
>XAnim [options] anim [ [options] anim ... ]
>-h  lists some common options, but may be out of date.
>See xanim.readme or the man page for detailed help.

If you want to play this file, you'll just have to do it in another OS.
The Sorenson codec (the one used in most recent movie trailer clips,
like Star Wars etc) is controlled by Apple, and they wont let anyone
else use it. They only write players for Windows and Mac. No Linux
player exists which can decode Sorenson video.

Has anyone tried running the windows quicktime player under wine? Maybe
this works?

Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Evan Moore]

there is the problem, xanime can not play Sorenson Video because apple
will not release any docs on it.

On 12 Jan 2000, Ron Farrer wrote:

> Joachim Trinkwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > Did you try xanim-modules in potato (it's an online-installer for
> > non-free modules which are not part of the core xanim)?
> 
> Yes I tried xanim and xanim-modules, but it says: 
> 
> $ xanim sample.mov
> XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights
> Reserved
>   Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18)
>   Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported.
>   Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
> Usage:
>XAnim [options] anim [ [options] anim ... ]
>-h  lists some common options, but may be out of date.
>See xanim.readme or the man page for detailed help.
> 
> 
> Thanks anyway,
> 
> Ron 
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Arcady Genkin]

Ron Farrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ben Lutgens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > Try xmovie. I found it on freshmeat.
> 
> Yeah I also saw that, but it failes to compile with: 
> $ make
> gcc -c `./c_flags` atom.c
> In file included from codecs.h:10,
>  from private.h:9,
>  from quicktime.h:11,
>  from atom.c:2:
> jpeg.h:8: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory
> jpeg.h:9: png.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [atom.o] Error 1
> 
> I haven't figured out what package these might be in if any. 

How about libjpeg-dev, libpng-dev etc.?
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Ron Farrer]

Ben Lutgens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Try xmovie. I found it on freshmeat.

Yeah I also saw that, but it failes to compile with: 

$ make
gcc -c `./c_flags` atom.c
In file included from codecs.h:10,
 from private.h:9,
 from quicktime.h:11,
 from atom.c:2:
jpeg.h:8: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory
jpeg.h:9: png.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [atom.o] Error 1

I haven't figured out what package these might be in if any. 


TIA,

Ron
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Ron Farrer]

Joachim Trinkwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Did you try xanim-modules in potato (it's an online-installer for
> non-free modules which are not part of the core xanim)?

Yes I tried xanim and xanim-modules, but it says: 

$ xanim sample.mov
XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights
Reserved
  Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18)
  Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported.
  Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
Usage:
   XAnim [options] anim [ [options] anim ... ]
   -h  lists some common options, but may be out of date.
   See xanim.readme or the man page for detailed help.


Thanks anyway,

Ron 
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Ron Farrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > There's xanim.
> 
> I tried that, but all it does it complain that it doesn't support video
> and audio QT... 

Did you try xanim-modules in potato (it's an online-installer for
non-free modules which are not part of the core xanim)?

Greetings,
joachim

Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Carl Fink ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > There's xanim.
> 
> I tried that, but all it does it complain that it doesn't support video
> and audio QT... 

What that means is that xanim doesn't know how to decode the video and
audio portions of the QT movie.  First thing would be to make sure you're
using the latest xanim; if that's the case, well, you're out of luck.  It
happens all too often these days.

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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Ron Farrer]

Carl Fink ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> There's xanim.

I tried that, but all it does it complain that it doesn't support video
and audio QT... 


Regards,

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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

[Carl Fink]

On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 09:55:12AM -0800, Ron Farrer wrote:
 
> I am running potato and am looking for a app that can play QuickTime
> videos (video and audio), does anyone know of such a thing? (in source
> form if possible as I'm running on an Alpha and not a x86.) 

There's xanim.
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