Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/06/11 21:58, Arno Schuring wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU (andreimpope...@gmail.com on 2011-06-27 11:00 +0300):
>> On Vi, 24 iun 11, 19:16:39, Dan wrote:
>>> EAC is what I have used to convert my CD collection to flac. It is
>>> worthy to use it. Unfortunately  it runs in windows :( I think you
>>> can run it with wine
>>
>> Sound nice, but I trust cdparanoia more ;)
> 
> While I have no problems with cdparanoia, it's worth pointing out that
> EAC uses subchannel data to detect/correct occasional jitter from
> misaligned reads. cdparanoia has its own jitter detection, but does not
> use the subchannel data. Arguably, EAC's method is more robust.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Arno
> 
> 

Do you mean that cdparanoia does not use sub channel data for jitter
detection??

It certainly reads sub channel data.

That's what CDROMSUBCHNL does.


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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-29 Thread Arno Schuring
Andrei POPESCU (andreimpope...@gmail.com on 2011-06-27 11:00 +0300):
> On Vi, 24 iun 11, 19:16:39, Dan wrote:
> > EAC is what I have used to convert my CD collection to flac. It is
> > worthy to use it. Unfortunately  it runs in windows :( I think you
> > can run it with wine
> 
> Sound nice, but I trust cdparanoia more ;)

While I have no problems with cdparanoia, it's worth pointing out that
EAC uses subchannel data to detect/correct occasional jitter from
misaligned reads. cdparanoia has its own jitter detection, but does not
use the subchannel data. Arguably, EAC's method is more robust.


Regards,
Arno


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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 24 iun 11, 19:16:39, Dan wrote:
> 
> I think that the best application to grab audio from a CD is EAC. It
> is only available for windows (I know that this a Debian forum). This
> program is one of the reasons I keep a windows partition in my hard
> drive. I does a great job specially with CDs which are not good (ex.
> scratch). It has lot of features like detection of read errors or
> comparing some kind of hash of the ripping with a database, etc...
> 
> It also has many options to write a CUE sheet. You need a CUE sheet to
> make an exact copy of your CD with your tracks(ex. in flac or mp3)
> 
> EAC is what I have used to convert my CD collection to flac. It is
> worthy to use it. Unfortunately  it runs in windows :( I think you can
> run it with wine
> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3699&iTestingId=989

Sound nice, but I trust cdparanoia more ;)

Regards,
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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf

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> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Ripping CD
> > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:23:45 + (UTC)
> > 
> > On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:48:13 +0200, Andreas Rönnquist wrote:
> > 
> > > asunder is pretty nice for the ripping part of your request (lightweight
> > > and GTK-based)
> > 
> > Thanks Andreas, 
> > 
> > I gave asunder a whirl but somehow it always freeze on me. I guess it 
> > might be because that I'm using an old version, v1.9.3-2 on ubuntu 
> > maverick.

On other Linux I used another CD ripper, but for Debian I unselected
installed Asunder and it does rip the CD to .wav ok for my needs.

Asunder here is version 2.1-1 from testing.

I dunno if it check errors on CDs and I dunno if you can comfortably
convert to what ever audio format you like.

Since I'm not comfortable with 44.1 KHz @ what bit ever, I don't care
much about the quality, when ripping a CD to .wav.

Anyway, Asunder does work here.


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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-24 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:23:45 +, T o n g wrote:

> I gave asunder a whirl but somehow it always freeze on me.

It works fine now -- I shouldn't have messed with the proxy setting.

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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-24 Thread T o n g
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:48:13 +0200, Andreas Rönnquist wrote:

> asunder is pretty nice for the ripping part of your request (lightweight
> and GTK-based)

Thanks Andreas, 

I gave asunder a whirl but somehow it always freeze on me. I guess it 
might be because that I'm using an old version, v1.9.3-2 on ubuntu 
maverick.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-24 Thread Dan
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Philipp Überbacher
 wrote:
> Excerpts from T o n g's message of 2011-06-23 18:08:36 +0200:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm wondering what's the proper tools for ripping/copying CDs.
>>
>> Sorry to bring up an "old" topic again, but I felt that a popular tools 3
>> or 5 years ago might not be popular any more and there might be better
>> (developed/maintained) tools available now.
>>
>> Seems that all such GUI tools are based on cdparanoia. I'm mostly looking
>> for GTK or CLI based tools. But still, there are lots to choose from. I'm
>> wondering what's the popular and better developed and maintained ones.
>>
>> Also, if I want to copy audio CDs as-is. or convert/burn existing encoded
>> audio files to CD, including the Lossless compression APE format, what's
>> the proper tools for that?
>>
>> All in all, I'm asking for a all-round solution for CD ripping/writing
>> tools.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> If you're looking for accurate rips, look at morituri or rubyripper.
>
> Regards,
> Philipp
>

I think that the best application to grab audio from a CD is EAC. It
is only available for windows (I know that this a Debian forum). This
program is one of the reasons I keep a windows partition in my hard
drive. I does a great job specially with CDs which are not good (ex.
scratch). It has lot of features like detection of read errors or
comparing some kind of hash of the ripping with a database, etc...

It also has many options to write a CUE sheet. You need a CUE sheet to
make an exact copy of your CD with your tracks(ex. in flac or mp3)

EAC is what I have used to convert my CD collection to flac. It is
worthy to use it. Unfortunately  it runs in windows :( I think you can
run it with wine
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3699&iTestingId=989

Dan


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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-24 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from T o n g's message of 2011-06-23 18:08:36 +0200:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering what's the proper tools for ripping/copying CDs. 
> 
> Sorry to bring up an "old" topic again, but I felt that a popular tools 3 
> or 5 years ago might not be popular any more and there might be better 
> (developed/maintained) tools available now.
> 
> Seems that all such GUI tools are based on cdparanoia. I'm mostly looking 
> for GTK or CLI based tools. But still, there are lots to choose from. I'm 
> wondering what's the popular and better developed and maintained ones.
> 
> Also, if I want to copy audio CDs as-is. or convert/burn existing encoded 
> audio files to CD, including the Lossless compression APE format, what's 
> the proper tools for that?
> 
> All in all, I'm asking for a all-round solution for CD ripping/writing 
> tools.
> 
> Thanks

If you're looking for accurate rips, look at morituri or rubyripper.

Regards,
Philipp


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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-23 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
T o n g skrev 2011-06-23 18:08:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering what's the proper tools for ripping/copying CDs. 
> 
> Sorry to bring up an "old" topic again, but I felt that a popular tools 3 
> or 5 years ago might not be popular any more and there might be better 
> (developed/maintained) tools available now.
> 

asunder is pretty nice for the ripping part of your request (lightweight
and GTK-based) - It will make use of lame from Debian Multimedia for mp3
support if you have it installed (I only use it for ripping cd's to ogg
myself). It doesn't do cd copying, but only ripping. And yes, it is
based on cdparanoia.

More info here:
http://littlesvr.ca/asunder/

/Andreas
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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-23 Thread Memnon Anon
Hi,

T o n g  writes:
> I'm wondering what's the proper tools for ripping/copying CDs. 

I like jack.

,[ aptitude show jack ]
| Description: Rip and encode CDs with one command
|  Jack has been developed with one main goal: making OGGs (or MP3s)
|  without having to worry. There is nearly no way that an incomplete rip
|  goes unnoticed, e.g. jack compares WAV and OGG file sizes when
|  continuing from a previous run. Jack also checks your HD space before
|  doing anything (even keeps some MB free).
|  .
| [...]
|   - it supports different rippers and encoders
|   - it is very configurable
|   - it doesn't need X
|   - it can "rip" virtual CD images like the ones created by cdrdao
|   - when using cdparanoia, cdparanoia's status information is displayed
| and archived for all tracks, so you can see if something went wrong
|   - it uses sophisticated disk space management, i.e. it schedules its
| ripping/encoding processes depending on available space.
|   - freedb query, file renaming and id3/ogg-tagging
|   - it can resume work after it has been interrupted. If all tracks have
| been ripped, it doesn't even need the CD anymore, even if you want
| to do a freedb query.
|   - it can do a freedb query based on OGGs alone, like if you don't
| remember from which CD those OGGs came from.
|   - freedb submissions
`

Memnon


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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-23 Thread green
T o n g wrote at 2011-06-23 10:08 -0600:
> I'm wondering what's the proper tools for ripping/copying CDs. 

The "crip" package is what I have had I mind for ripping if I need to 
sometime.  I am not sure if I have actually used it.


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Re: Ripping CD

2011-06-23 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* T o n g [110623 16:08 +]:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering what's the proper tools for ripping/copying CDs. 
> 
> Sorry to bring up an "old" topic again, but I felt that a popular tools 3 
> or 5 years ago might not be popular any more and there might be better 
> (developed/maintained) tools available now.
> 
> Seems that all such GUI tools are based on cdparanoia. I'm mostly looking 
> for GTK or CLI based tools. But still, there are lots to choose from. I'm 
> wondering what's the popular and better developed and maintained ones.

ripit
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Re: ripping CD with SACD format seems impossible

2006-05-21 Thread Matthijs
On Sun, 21 May 2006 19:10:10 +0200, Adam Hardy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Matthijs on 21/05/06 17:18, wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:10:11 +0200, Adam Hardy
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Cdparanoia rejects one of my CDs. I am pretty sure that it's due to the 
> >> SACD format of the CD. I get this error:
> >>
> > If it is a hybrid disc, it is dual-layer: it contains CD-layer and a
> > DVD-like layer which contains the SACD information. I think CDparanoia
> > might be confused by the second layer.
> > 
> > Are you trying this with a CD-rom or DVD-rom drive?
> 
> it's a dual-layer cd. Should have said, sorry. I'm playing it on a CD-ROM, no 
> DVD functionality. 

In that case the drive can't even see the SACD-layer, only the CD
layer. If you *are* able to play the disc on an ordinary CD-player, my
guess would be that the CD-layer is copy-protected by manipulating the
Table-Of-Content. I have no idea how to solve that on a
Linux-machine sorry.

(Windows: Exact Audio Copy can rip that disc)

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Re: ripping CD with SACD format seems impossible

2006-05-21 Thread Adam Hardy

Matthijs on 21/05/06 17:18, wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:10:11 +0200, Adam Hardy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Cdparanoia rejects one of my CDs. I am pretty sure that it's due to the SACD 
format of the CD. I get this error:

cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
(C) 2001 Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Xiphophorus
FreeBSD porting (c) 2003
Simon 'corecode' Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/

004: Unable to read table of contents header

Unable to open disc.  Is there an audio CD in the drive?
<<


If it is a hybrid disc, it is dual-layer: it contains CD-layer and a
DVD-like layer which contains the SACD information. I think CDparanoia
might be confused by the second layer.

Are you trying this with a CD-rom or DVD-rom drive?


it's a dual-layer cd. Should have said, sorry. I'm playing it on a CD-ROM, no DVD functionality. 




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Re: ripping CD with SACD format seems impossible

2006-05-21 Thread Kelly Clowers

On 5/21/06, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Cdparanoia rejects one of my CDs. I am pretty sure that it's due to
the SACD format of the CD. I get this error:

>>
cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
(C) 2001 Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Xiphophorus
FreeBSD porting (c) 2003
Simon 'corecode' Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/

004: Unable to read table of contents header

Unable to open disc.  Is there an audio CD in the drive?
<<



So I was wondering if there is some kind of persuasive option
I can use on the cdparanoia command?

Adam


Ordinary cd drives can't read SACD. There are some freestanding
cd players that can also play SACD, but I don't know of any pc
drives that can do it. Some SACDs are hybrids and can be read
as a cd (at cd quality). If your disc is one of those it should be
possible to rip it, but I don't know what options, if any, you would
need. Sorry I can't help more than that.

Cheers,
Kelly


Re: ripping CD with SACD format seems impossible

2006-05-21 Thread Matthijs
On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:10:11 +0200, Adam Hardy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cdparanoia rejects one of my CDs. I am pretty sure that it's due to the SACD 
> format of the CD. I get this error:
> 
> >>
> cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
> (C) 2001 Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Xiphophorus
> FreeBSD porting (c) 2003
> Simon 'corecode' Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/
> 
> 004: Unable to read table of contents header
> 
> Unable to open disc.  Is there an audio CD in the drive?
> <<

Is it a hybrid disc or a pure SACD-only disc? Have you tried playing
it in a normal stand-alone CD- or DVD-player, something *not* capable
of playing SACD?

If it is a pure SACD-only disc: give up. Your CD- or DVD-rom player is
not capable of reading it and AFAIK no PC optical reader is.

If it is a hybrid disc, it is dual-layer: it contains CD-layer and a
DVD-like layer which contains the SACD information. I think CDparanoia
might be confused by the second layer.

Are you trying this with a CD-rom or DVD-rom drive?

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