Re: Supported hybrid PC/tablet computers

2015-05-02 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 1 May 2015 20:14:19 +0200
Nicolas George geo...@nsup.org wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I wrote some time ago:
  I would like to know if some people here have accurate knowledge on
  the prospect of running Debian on low- and middle-end hybrid
  PC/tablet computers, like Asus Transformer or Acer Aspire Switch
  that sell for 250-500 EUR around here?
 
 Since no answer came, I took a risk and bought a Lenovo Miix 3-1030,
 mostly because of the better resolution (1920×1200 instead of the
 usual 1366×768).
 
 The good news is: the touchscreen is supported by Linux. The video
 controller works well too with Free drivers, this is an Intel
 controller.
 
 But it stops there. No wifi, no sound, no webcam. Not just
 unsupported: invisible. Nothing on lspci, nothing on lsusb. And not a
 rfkill thing either apparently.
 
 According to the OEM windows, the devices are accessed trough I2C,
 ACPI (?) and SDIO (???). I do not know how these technologies work, I
 do not know how to explore them.

This will probably not help you, but at Wikipedia you can read more
about these interfaces:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2c
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acpi 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SDIO

I have recently been given a couple of Palm devices that I have barely
started to play with, and they use the SDIO interface for things like
WiFi. These need special drivers, so even if the WiFi chip (for example)
in your tablet is supported by the Linux kernel it would probably not
be trivial to get it to work if it is connected through an SDIO
interface. AFAICT, I'm no developer. :)

All I know about ACPI is that it is used for power management in PC's.
There are Linux tools to Do Things (tm) - like acpitool to get or set
ACPI values, and you can also look at /proc/acpi.

The above pages will tell you more, though, and there are tons of
information online if you really want to dig into it, but if you, like
me, are not a programmer, it may be limited what you can actually
achieve with it.

I wish you the best of luck, though :)

Petter

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Re: Supported hybrid PC/tablet computers

2015-05-01 Thread Nicolas George
Hi.

I wrote some time ago:
 I would like to know if some people here have accurate knowledge on the
 prospect of running Debian on low- and middle-end hybrid PC/tablet
 computers, like Asus Transformer or Acer Aspire Switch that sell for
 250-500 EUR around here?

Since no answer came, I took a risk and bought a Lenovo Miix 3-1030, mostly
because of the better resolution (1920×1200 instead of the usual 1366×768).

The good news is: the touchscreen is supported by Linux. The video
controller works well too with Free drivers, this is an Intel controller.

But it stops there. No wifi, no sound, no webcam. Not just unsupported:
invisible. Nothing on lspci, nothing on lsusb. And not a rfkill thing either
apparently.

According to the OEM windows, the devices are accessed trough I2C, ACPI (?)
and SDIO (???). I do not know how these technologies work, I do not know how
to explore them.

If someone has experience with that kind of technology, I would appreciate a
little help.

In the meantime, I have written a web page to summarize what I could get
working:

http://nsup.org/~george/comp/linux_lenovo_miix3/

I hope some of these frowny faces can become smily and that it may help
people later.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Re: Supported hybrid PC/tablet computers

2015-05-01 Thread Jape Person

On 05/01/2015 02:14 PM, Nicolas George wrote:

Hi.

I wrote some time ago:

I would like to know if some people here have accurate knowledge on the
prospect of running Debian on low- and middle-end hybrid PC/tablet
computers, like Asus Transformer or Acer Aspire Switch that sell for
250-500 EUR around here?


Since no answer came, I took a risk and bought a Lenovo Miix 3-1030, mostly
because of the better resolution (1920×1200 instead of the usual 1366×768).

The good news is: the touchscreen is supported by Linux. The video
controller works well too with Free drivers, this is an Intel controller.

But it stops there. No wifi, no sound, no webcam. Not just unsupported:
invisible. Nothing on lspci, nothing on lsusb. And not a rfkill thing either
apparently.

According to the OEM windows, the devices are accessed trough I2C, ACPI (?)
and SDIO (???). I do not know how these technologies work, I do not know how
to explore them.

If someone has experience with that kind of technology, I would appreciate a
little help.

In the meantime, I have written a web page to summarize what I could get
working:

http://nsup.org/~george/comp/linux_lenovo_miix3/

I hope some of these frowny faces can become smily and that it may help
people later.

Regards,



My significant other has been looking wistfully at those devices, but 
she really doesn't want to use MS Windows with it. I'm going to go over 
that page and the links you mentioned this weekend.


In the (probably unlikely) event that I find a way to contribute, I'll 
do so. I appreciate your efforts and your consideration in making the 
details available to the community.


Best regards,
JP


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Re: Supported hybrid PC/tablet computers

2015-04-16 Thread Nicolas George
Le septidi 27 germinal, an CCXXIII, Nicolas George a écrit :
 [ Re-sending due to a mixup with my from address; hopefully will arrive
 only once. ]

Sorry for the dup, it was a matter of seconds after more than an hour :(
Please disregard this mail and reply only on the other.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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