Re: Tails: Failed InRelease - tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/

2017-08-26 Thread Frank 

Op 26-08-17 om 06:10 schreef david...@freevolt.org:

The uri in the failure message, as you have quoted it in your message
to debian-user, is subtly different from the corresponding uri found
in the release notes: The uri in the release notes ends in
".onion/debian" and is followed by two words namely a suite "stretch"
and a component "main", whereas the uri in your message ends in
".onion/" and is followed three words "debian" "stretch" "main".

Maybe the extra space is significant, and should be removed?


Not likely. The problem appears to be with the file that's requested: an 
InRelease file. The repository at the onion URL doesn't have that, only 
Release + Release.gpg files.
As far as I'm aware, apt is usually able to handle that. Maybe Tails 
uses an unusual setting? So, yes, perhaps asking the Tails people isn't 
such a bad idea after all...


Regards,
Frank

Re: Tails: Failed InRelease - tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/

2017-08-25 Thread davidson 

On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, david...@freevolt.org wrote:


whereas the uri in your message ends in ".onion/" and is followed
three words "debian" "stretch" "main".


Well, not "main". Not in your message. Whatever.

I'm just suggesting to check your sources.list to make sure you have
the correct uri, with no space between "...onion/" and the following
"debian".

Re: Tails: Failed InRelease - tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/

2017-08-25 Thread davidson 

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, Anonymous wrote:


I'm seeing this in Tails when I refresh the package repositories:


NB: I am not a user of Tails.

Nonetheless, I put the following line into a search engine:


Failed - 0B - InRelease - tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/ debian stretch 
InRelease


One of the results was this link[1],...

  
https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#deprecation-of-ftp-apt-mirrors

...which gives following (tor variant) example line in
/etc/apt/sources.list :

  deb tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/debian stretch main


Why is this happening and how may I fix it please?


The uri in the failure message, as you have quoted it in your message
to debian-user, is subtly different from the corresponding uri found
in the release notes: The uri in the release notes ends in
".onion/debian" and is followed by two words namely a suite "stretch"
and a component "main", whereas the uri in your message ends in
".onion/" and is followed three words "debian" "stretch" "main".

Maybe the extra space is significant, and should be removed?

Good luck. Hope this helps.

1. The relevant excerpt:

| 5.1.2. FTP access to Debian hosted mirrors will be removed

|Debian hosted mirrors will stop providing FTP access. If you have
|been using the ftp: protocol in your sources.list, please migrate
|to http:. Please consider the following example for migrating:
| deb http://deb.debian.org/debian  stretch main
| deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main

| # tor variant (requires apt-transport-tor)
| # deb  tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/debian stretch main
| # deb  tor+http://sgvtcaew4bxjd7ln.onion/debian-security stretch/updates main

Re: Tails: Failed InRelease - tor+http

2017-08-25 Thread Fungi4All 
> From: nob...@dizum.com
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> @ Mario Castelán Castro:
>
> "Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list."
>
> Thanks, but...
>
> - "Debian and Tor Services available as Onion Services"[1]
> https://bits.debian.org/2016/08/debian-and-tor-services-available-as-onion-services.html
>
> [1] probably more recent info there but just for clarity
>
> @ Fungi4All:
>
> Thank you.

Anytime,
Debian and Devuan are about the  only distos that list .onion repositories.
Considering the socks5 is pretty good in verifying packets between source and
destination it makes one very insecure to be upgrading without it or some
form of vpn..
The only drawback for some maybe that the automirror gets confused on
what is closer and you may be linked to some far away mirror, but that
maybe some seconds give or take.
All you need is tor apt-transport-tor and apt-transport-https and changing
your sources.list with onion addresses and tor:// instead of http://

Re: Tails: Failed InRelease - tor+http

2017-08-25 Thread Nomen Nescio 
@ Mario Castelán Castro:

"Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list."

Thanks, but...

- "Debian and Tor Services available as Onion Services"[1]
https://bits.debian.org/2016/08/debian-and-tor-services-available-as-onion-services.html

[1] probably more recent info there but just for clarity

@ Fungi4All:

Thank you.

Re: Tails: Failed InRelease - tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/

2017-08-25 Thread Fungi4All 
> From: marioxcc...@yandex.com
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On 24/08/17 20:51, Anonymous wrote:
>> I"m seeing this in Tails [...]
>
> Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list.

Tail is Debian because anything that has official debian repositories
to feed from.  Unlike debian based distributions that have their own
repositories.
There is nothing in tails that you can not get or make from a basic
debian installation.  The only thing special about it is its configuration
of debian packages.  Much of it has to do with restriction to avoid
permanent installation..
There is not much room in live debian to do a massive upgrade if
it is outdated, but you can install packages and even save them
in the encrypted persistent volume for next time.  Are you sure you
has a network connection and a tor connection?  Either this or
the debian mirror was down which is unlikely.  There was a recent
bug in a previous version it would not connect with some machines.
Not a very communicative group even for filing bugs.
As long as they are on a systemd based system, IMHO, they are
defeating their purpose and goal.  Technically interesting but
functionally 0!  Which zero might you ask!

Re: Tails: Failed InRelease - tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/

2017-08-25 Thread Mario Castelán Castro 
On 24/08/17 20:51, Anonymous wrote:
> I'm seeing this in Tails [...]

Ask the tails people. This is the DEBIAN-user mailing list.

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Re: Tails -- wheezy based good, jessie based bad

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan 


On 13/03/2016 9:12 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:02:54 +1100 Andrew McGlashan
>  wrote:
> 
>> Just reporting that I have a couple of older machines that both work
>> well with Tails 1.8.2 -- an old Thinkpad that used to run XP and an
>> old Macbook Pro 4,1 (early 2008).
>>
>> Both machines fail on Tails 2.x -- the Thinkpad gets further than the
>> Macbook Pro.  2.x is based on Jessie.
> 
> This is indeed strange, considering the fact that Jessie works fine on
> both of these models. Are there any suspect Tails-specific
> functionalities which may be the cause?
> 
> When you say "fail", what do you mean? Do they both refuse to boot?
> Blank screen? Stuck on login? What?

Okay, the ThinkPad (TP) T41 machine has a Radeon GPU card, it gets the
first prompt about persistent volume selection and more options okay;
but then proceeds to start up further and fails to bring up the DE with
a message about contacting your administrator.

The Macbook Pro (4,1 -- early 2008).  Fails to get the first prompt that
the TP gets.  I do get ttys 1 through 6, but without any option to
specify a suitable password, it can do nothing.

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Re: Tails -- wheezy based good, jessie based bad

2016-03-13 Thread Adam Wilson 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:02:54 +1100 Andrew McGlashan
 wrote:

> Just reporting that I have a couple of older machines that both work
> well with Tails 1.8.2 -- an old Thinkpad that used to run XP and an
> old Macbook Pro 4,1 (early 2008).
> 
> Both machines fail on Tails 2.x -- the Thinkpad gets further than the
> Macbook Pro.  2.x is based on Jessie.

This is indeed strange, considering the fact that Jessie works fine on
both of these models. Are there any suspect Tails-specific
functionalities which may be the cause?

When you say "fail", what do you mean? Do they both refuse to boot?
Blank screen? Stuck on login? What?

Re: Tails

2014-05-20 Thread Joel Rees 
Please, anyone else who wants to object to a perhaps unfortunate turn
of phrase, please read the whole thread first.

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:16 AM, André Nunes Batista
andrenbati...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 2014-05-17 at 21:06 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
 On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote:
[ A request for some face-to-face help for a non-technical type as follows: ]
  Greetings all,
 
  Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?
 
  There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to

The specifications of young, female seem to have been thoroughly
misunderstood. I myself thought the mode of expression a little
unfortunate. But it is clear, I think, that Weaver was not imagining
that we would see any such intent.

  install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
  got the slightest idea of how to go about it.
 
  Any father figures up for a free gig?

gig has lots of meanings, and there was no need to presuppose the
performer of the gig in this case. This was a request for help, so
we must assume the performing of the free gig would be on the part
of the helper.

Inducing a sugar daddy interpretation of the term father figure
indicates the frame of mind of the reader, and, really, considering
the old comic-strip Li'l Orphan Annie and the Daddy Warbucks
character, well, what *is* everyone thinking about?

 FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm sure
 some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in the past
 that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than themselves
 are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent, hence my comment.

 Right, as if you could just blindly trust a flash drive sent over
 governmental currier.

 This seems like security backwards: methods developed to ease bypassing
 all efforts do keep user at control. I wouldn't trust this flash drive
 anymore than I would trust a windows public machine.

If the request had been intended to have the nuance read, the concept
of what passing a pre-written USB drive is comparable to is telling,
but, really, the request was to show the reporter how to do it
herself.

Weaver decided to send the drive after we misinterpreted his intent.

I assume Weaver knows her personally, so she would not be blindly
accepting the drive. Although the possibility that it might be
intercepted en-route is probably the reason he would have preferred to
have someone over there walk her through the process in person.

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Re: Tails

2014-05-19 Thread André Nunes Batista 
On Sat, 2014-05-17 at 21:06 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
 On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote:
  Greetings all,
  
  Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?
  
  There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
  install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
  got the slightest idea of how to go about it.
  
  Any father figures up for a free gig?
 
 FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm sure
 some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in the past
 that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than themselves
 are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent, hence my comment.

Right, as if you could just blindly trust a flash drive sent over
governmental currier.

This seems like security backwards: methods developed to ease bypassing
all efforts do keep user at control. I wouldn't trust this flash drive
anymore than I would trust a windows public machine.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Bob Holtzman 
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:36:19PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:

 snip
 
 This looks like a request for tech help, so for the life of me, I can't
 imagine why the gender and age of the recipient of the help are
 relevant. And then father figure? 
 
 And in another post, She would just unravel your genetic code, and
 leave you crying in the streets of the Barrio, Art. Is that supposed
 to be a challenge?
 
 I looked back at some of Weaver's old posts, and they're legit. I don't
 know what happened this time (and perhaps my genetic code is glad I
 don't).

Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally.
 
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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Francesco Ariis 
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
 Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally.
  

Far from be being a Thought Policeman, I felt uneasy reading the OP and
some of the replies.

Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that
using Tails or any other OS on a compromised machine is a risky choice.
I am sure I am preaching to the choir here, but I found people who don't
otherwise take interest in security may think that a bootable USB will
magically shield them from, say, a hardware key-logger.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Weaver 

On Sun, May 18, 2014 2:05 am, Francesco Ariis wrote:
 On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
 Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally.


snip

 Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that
 using Tails or any other OS on a compromised machine is a risky choice.
 I am sure I am preaching to the choir here, but I found people who don't
 otherwise take interest in security may think that a bootable USB will
 magically shield them from, say, a hardware key-logger.

It's only one step in a short introduction to base level security.
I have no intention of going into the rest of it on-list.
Other than the fact it's not relevant to the list, at least half the
replies are a waste of time reading and a sad statement on the mentalities
of those making them.

I have always found the community to be a source of supportive assistance.
Other than obvious exceptions, that appears to belong to another time and
in other company.
Cheers!

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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Stephen Allen 
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 02:33:21AM -0700, Weaver wrote:
 
 On Sun, May 18, 2014 2:05 am, Francesco Ariis wrote:
  On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
  Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally.
 
 
 snip
 
  Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that
  using Tails or any other OS on a compromised machine is a risky choice.
  I am sure I am preaching to the choir here, but I found people who don't
  otherwise take interest in security may think that a bootable USB will
  magically shield them from, say, a hardware key-logger.
 
 It's only one step in a short introduction to base level security.
 I have no intention of going into the rest of it on-list.
 Other than the fact it's not relevant to the list, at least half the
 replies are a waste of time reading and a sad statement on the mentalities
 of those making them.
 
 I have always found the community to be a source of supportive assistance.
 Other than obvious exceptions, that appears to belong to another time and
 in other company.
 Cheers!

It used to be, alas it's not much of that anymore - many of the newer
folk are to blame unfortunately. Sorry that you were given the gears by
some idiots - your OP didn't creep me out in the slightest, and Kudo's
to you in helping out the young lady pursue her career safely. These are
unsafe times for investigative journalists around the world.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Doug 


On 05/18/2014 05:05 AM, Francesco Ariis wrote:

On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:

Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally.
  

Far from be being a Thought Policeman, I felt uneasy reading the OP and
some of the replies.

Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that
using Tails or any other OS on a compromised machine is a risky choice.
I am sure I am preaching to the choir here, but I found people who don't
otherwise take interest in security may think that a bootable USB will
magically shield them from, say, a hardware key-logger.



Is it possible to remotely install some kind of software onto the
BIOS chip? That's what it would seem to require, short of having
physical access to the machine.

--doug


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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis 
 - Original Message -
 From: Doug
 Sent: 05/18/14 10:36 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Tails
 
 Is it possible to remotely install some kind of software onto the
 BIOS chip? That's what it would seem to require, short of having
 physical access to the machine.

Yes, the Americans, together with the Israelis, managed to slip Stuxnet on to 
the BIOS chip and crippled the computers that ran the Iranian nuclear facility.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Francesco Ariis 
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:36:43AM -0400, Doug wrote:
 BIOS chip? That's what it would seem to require, short of having
 physical access to the machine.
 
 --doug
 


Indeed physical access to the machine is what I was thinking about (simple
hypothetical threat: hardware key-logger in work environment or an internet
cafe). Such tools are quite cheap nowadays (~50$ off your favourite
online store).
I feel that, for someone who needs to securely store/access/transfer data and
is not tech-savvy (e.g.: a journalist), stating: use a security-driven distro
(Tails, etc.) on secure hardware (your own machine or the machine of someone
you trust) is concise, simple and comprehensive.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-18 Thread Bob Holtzman 
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:05:43AM +0200, Francesco Ariis wrote:
 On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:59:31PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
  Lighten up, lad and stop taking all things literally.
   
 
 Far from be being a Thought Policeman, I felt uneasy reading the OP and
 some of the replies.

Your privilege.

 
 Back OT, someone please tell to the investigative journalist that
 using Tails or any other OS on a compromised machine is a risky choice.
 I am sure I am preaching to the choir here, but I found people who don't
 otherwise take interest in security may think that a bootable USB will
 magically shield them from, say, a hardware key-logger.
 
 
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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Weaver 

On Fri, May 16, 2014 5:02 pm, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis
 theota...@mail.com wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian
 Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Tails

 The adjectives describing journalist are completely irrelevant; what
 purpose do they serve? Advertising for a sugar daddy on this list is a
 first. :).

 I agree with you, Brian. The post by Weaver certainly seems like an
 advertisement put up by a pimp :)

Well, I wouldn't know. I'll have to bow to your superior knowledge.


 I was assuming that Brian was being a little more direct than Art.
 Anyway, I think the point about the choice of words has been made.

No, I think Brian was genuine, more in the community spirit I was seeking.

 BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version
 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct?


 https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=tails

 First result when I checked just now, but since the archives will
 likely outlast the ranking, it's a live derivative of Debian with a
 useful collection of privacy/anonymity tools, which would be
 particularly useful to a journalist.

That's exactly what it is.
Just trying to keep the girl safe, as she leaves journalist school and
heads out into the wild world of investigative journalism, which is where
she wants to go.
Cheers!

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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Richard Hector 
On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote:
 Greetings all,
 
 Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?
 
 There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
 install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
 got the slightest idea of how to go about it.
 
 Any father figures up for a free gig?

FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm sure
some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in the past
that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than themselves
are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent, hence my comment.

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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis 
 - Original Message -
 From: Weaver
 Sent: 05/17/14 03:30 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Tails
 
 That's exactly what it is.
 Just trying to keep the girl safe, as she leaves journalist school and
 heads out into the wild world of investigative journalism, which is where
 she wants to go.
 Cheers!
 
 Weaver.

Weaver, if you're genuinely sincere about helping the female journalist 
wannabe, you could write to Glen Greenwald or his partner David Miranda.

Glen Greenwald is THE investigative journalist entrusted by Edward Snowden to 
reveal the truths behind the evil surveillance machinery maintained by the NSA 
and GCHQ.

Both Glen and David ARE residing in Brazil. They are in the best position to 
help your female friend.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis 
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Hector
 Sent: 05/17/14 05:06 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Tails
 
 On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote:
  Greetings all,
  
  Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?
  
  There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
  install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
  got the slightest idea of how to go about it.
  
  Any father figures up for a free gig?
 
 FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm sure
 some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in the past
 that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than themselves
 are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent, hence my comment.
 
 Richard

I totally agree with you, Richard, on this.

Moreover I have just discovered, after googling, that Tails provides free 
technical support via a mailing list.

Weaver should have posted a request for help on behalf of the investigative 
journalist wannabe to that mailing list. It's the most appropriate thing to do.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Joel Rees 
Oh, for crying out loud.

Look, guys, Weaver just used an unfortunate turn of phrase, one that
is very easily interpreted in a way that would be really
inappropriate, but was clearly not meant that way. I'm sure none of
you guys have ever used words that could be misinterpreted?

Артур's comments had to have been an inappropriate jest, although I'm
sure he intended to communicate the same thing that Brian intended.

Maybe the tail mailing list would be more appropriate, but the problem
is finding people in Brazil who would be willing to do a free service
gig by dd-ing an image of (debian-derived) tail onto a USB for the
journalist and introducing her to an appropriate local user group. A
debian user group would probably be easier to find than a tail user
group.

Life is not a nihilist novel, and we do not have to interpret
everything people say in such terms.

(sigh)

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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Curt 
On 2014-05-16, Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote:

 BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current
 version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct?

Whatever Tails is god bless the plural.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Paul E Condon 
On 20140517_0902+0900, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis
 theota...@mail.com wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Brian
  Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: Tails
...snip...
 
  BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 
  7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct?
 
 
 https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=tails
 
 First result when I checked just now, but since the archives will
 likely outlast the ranking, it's a live derivative of Debian with a
 useful collection of privacy/anonymity tools, which would be
 particularly useful to a journalist.

More info...
Tails is an acronym from The Amnesic Incognito Live System. It is
the result of a merger of two earlier projects, Amnesia and Incognito.
Amnesia was a effort to wrap Tor inside a system that made sure to
erase all 'memory' of a Tor communication after it is completed, thus
frustrating after the fact forensics. Incognito was a project to create
a live system to manage all the details of securely setting up and 
dismantling a Tor communication channel. The combined system is an
effort to gather into one project all the best practice in using Tor
to accomplish completely private and secure communication over the
internet. It is used by the security expert and blogger Bruce Schneier,
who mentions it in his most recent monthly blog, available at:

http://www.schneier.com

It was also used by Edward Snowden in effecting his famous leak of NAS
documents, as I discovered by following some of Schneier's links.
The developers of Tails use it to maintain their own secret identities
while working on the project, so it is a significant departure from
the traditional open software development ethic(1). The liveness of
Tails stems from it using Debian Live as its live starting point.
There is plenty to argue and bloviate about here. I only know what
I learned/surmised from about 30 min of googling.

HTH
-- 
Paul E Condon   
pecon...@mesanetworks.net

1) From what I can tell, the software *is* free as in freedom and as
in beer. But the process of producing it is very much secret for fear
of it being disrupted by law enforcement authorities, I suppose.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Lisi Reisz 
On Saturday 17 May 2014 00:12:48 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
 BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version
 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct?

Yes, correct.  And Testing is Jessie.

Lisi


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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis 
 - Original Message -
 From: Joel Rees
 Sent: 05/17/14 07:06 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Tails
 
 Maybe the tail mailing list would be more appropriate, but the problem
 is finding people in Brazil who would be willing to do a free service
 gig by dd-ing an image of (debian-derived) tail onto a USB for the
 journalist and introducing her to an appropriate local user group. A
 debian user group would probably be easier to find than a tail user
 group.

There ARE two guys in Brazil who are able to help her: Glenn Greenwald and his 
partner David Miranda. The former is one of the select few entrusted by Edward 
Snowden with the NSA files.


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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Steve Litt 
On Sat, 17 May 2014 21:06:42 +1200
Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:

 On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote:
  Greetings all,
  
  Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?
  
  There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants
  to install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but
  she hasn't got the slightest idea of how to go about it.
  
  Any father figures up for a free gig?
 
 FWIW, I consider this method of making a request inappropriate. I'm
 sure some will disagree with me; so be it. Others have commented in
 the past that those who don't stick up for the rights of others than
 themselves are part of the problem. I agree with that to some extent,
 hence my comment.
 
 Richard

And...

This looks like a request for tech help, so for the life of me, I can't
imagine why the gender and age of the recipient of the help are
relevant. And then father figure? 

And in another post, She would just unravel your genetic code, and
leave you crying in the streets of the Barrio, Art. Is that supposed
to be a challenge?

I looked back at some of Weaver's old posts, and they're legit. I don't
know what happened this time (and perhaps my genetic code is glad I
don't).

SteveT


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Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Chris Bannister 
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 06:10:44PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Saturday 17 May 2014 00:12:48 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
  BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version
  7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct?
 
 Yes, correct.  And Testing is Jessie.

But Tails is not the next [stable] version of Debian, so 50% correct.
:-)

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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing. --- Malcolm X


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Re: Tails

2014-05-16 Thread Артур Истомин 
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 09:42:27PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
 Greetings all,
 
 Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?
 
 There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
 install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
 got the slightest idea of how to go about it.
 
 Any father figures up for a free gig?
 Cheers!

Drop me her photos. I am ready to travel for the young Brazilian female
right now. Even from Russia =)


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Re: Tails

2014-05-16 Thread Weaver 

On Fri, May 16, 2014 2:28 am, Артур Истомин wrote:
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 09:42:27PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
 Greetings all,

 Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?

 There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
 install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
 got the slightest idea of how to go about it.

 Any father figures up for a free gig?
 Cheers!

 Drop me her photos. I am ready to travel for the young Brazilian female
 right now. Even from Russia =)


Never mind.
I'll do up a USB drive and send it to her.

She would just unravel your genetic code, and leave you crying in the
streets of the Barrio, Art. Nothing but a broken programme.
Trust me, I'll save you the pain.
Cheers!

Weaver.

-- 
It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its  government.
 -- Thomas Paine

Registered Linux User: 554515



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Re: Tails

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Smith 

On 16/05/2014 13:10, Weaver wrote:

On Fri, May 16, 2014 2:28 am, Артур Истомин wrote:

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 09:42:27PM -0700, Weaver wrote:

Greetings all,

Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?

There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
got the slightest idea of how to go about it.

Any father figures up for a free gig?
Cheers!

Drop me her photos. I am ready to travel for the young Brazilian female
right now. Even from Russia =)



Never mind.
I'll do up a USB drive and send it to her.
It would get there quicker if you know someone who is going out there 
and can post it internally
in which case it might get there in a couple of weeks. My personal 
experience of posting anything
out there from any other country is that it takes at least 3 weeks, 
often longer, and when I had a
mini display port to hdmi cable sent out a year or so ago we had to pay 
200% of its value in import

duty.
Anyway good luck, sorry I am not going out again till next year.




She would just unravel your genetic code, and leave you crying in the
streets of the Barrio, Art. Nothing but a broken programme.
Trust me, I'll save you the pain.
Cheers!

Weaver.




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Re: Tails

2014-05-16 Thread Brian 
On Thu 15 May 2014 at 21:42:27 -0700, Weaver wrote:

 Greetings all,
 
 Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?
 
 There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
 install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
 got the slightest idea of how to go about it.
 
 Any father figures up for a free gig?

The adjectives describing journalist are completely irrelevant; what
purpose do they serve? Advertising for a sugar daddy on this list is a
first. :).


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Re: Tails

2014-05-16 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis 
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian
 Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Tails
 
 The adjectives describing journalist are completely irrelevant; what
 purpose do they serve? Advertising for a sugar daddy on this list is a
 first. :).

I agree with you, Brian. The post by Weaver certainly seems like an 
advertisement put up by a pimp :)

BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is 
codenamed Wheezy, correct?



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Re: Tails

2014-05-16 Thread Joel Rees 
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis
theota...@mail.com wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian
 Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Tails

 The adjectives describing journalist are completely irrelevant; what
 purpose do they serve? Advertising for a sugar daddy on this list is a
 first. :).

 I agree with you, Brian. The post by Weaver certainly seems like an 
 advertisement put up by a pimp :)


I was assuming that Brian was being a little more direct than Art.
Anyway, I think the point about the choice of words has been made.

 BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 
 is codenamed Wheezy, correct?


https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=tails

First result when I checked just now, but since the archives will
likely outlast the ranking, it's a live derivative of Debian with a
useful collection of privacy/anonymity tools, which would be
particularly useful to a journalist.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful where you see conspiracy.
Look first in your own heart.


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