Re: Tarball conversion
Paul A. Thomas wrote: Given that you're still in windows (and you want to view the docs on-line) I recommend the HTML format : http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tarballs/newbiedoc-html-0.3.0.tar.gz They also have the HTML docs available directly on their web server so you can browse them without downloading a tarball. The single source all encompassing document is not available via HTML, only bits and pieces, Paul, the above should give you everything you need. It's in bits and pieces, because it's really meant to be HTML documents (note the plural) that are served up on a site. If I were you, I'd unzip and untar it (possible through WinZip?), then just start browsing the index file using the file browsing capabilities of your web browser. (Alternatively, you could use an actual file server for Windows). E.g., decompress/untar it into c:\newbiedoc, then browse file:///C|/newbiedoc/index.html That's got all the links to the other pages, and you can print them as you go from your browser. Yes, it's tedious... Hope that helps.
Re: Tarball conversion
Keith G. Murphy wrote: Paul A. Thomas wrote: Given that you're still in windows (and you want to view the docs on-line) I recommend the HTML format : http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tarballs/newbiedoc-html-0.3.0.tar.gz They also have the HTML docs available directly on their web server so you can browse them without downloading a tarball. The single source all encompassing document is not available via HTML, only bits and pieces, Paul, the above should give you everything you need. It's in bits and pieces, because it's really meant to be HTML documents (note the plural) that are served up on a site. If I were you, I'd unzip and untar it (possible through WinZip?), then just start browsing the index file using the file browsing capabilities of your web browser. (Alternatively, you could use an actual file server for Windows). Excuse me, here I meant web server, of course.
Re: Tarball conversion
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:20:58AM -0800, Paul A. Thomas wrote: | In trying to view the document named 'newbiedoc' I find the only format | it is offered in is tarball zip. The conversion programs I was able to | find all seem to translate from one Linux format to another. | | I am hoping that once the document is unzipped I will be able to read it | with Word or Notebad... (?) but can not open the file. Is anybody aware | of a program which would allow me to open this file and print it here at | work? The format is a gzipped tarball (gzip is a different format and algorithm than zip). Both winzip and power archiver can open gzipped and tarred files without any trouble. Once opened, I think the documents are in HTML format, but I'm not certain. | (Side note: my first post here did not wrap properly. I've checked all | of the systems I use for Email and all are set to 72 characters for | outgoing messages ( Netscape 4.75 and 6.2 ). IF this message has the | same problem I'm open to suggestions on resolving it. ) This message looks fine to me :-). -D -- It took the computational power of three Commodore 64s to fly to the moon. It takes at least a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here.
Re: Tarball conversion
http://tucows.mirror.ac.uk/system/preview/194295.html You're a bit unluky because this one was not long time ago a very good freeware but now it looks like it is know a shareware. You can try it anyway. --- Paul A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In trying to view the document named 'newbiedoc' I find the only format it is offered in is tarball zip. The conversion programs I was able to find all seem to translate from one Linux format to another. I am hoping that once the document is unzipped I will be able to read it with Word or Notebad... (?) but can not open the file. Is anybody aware of a program which would allow me to open this file and print it here at work? (Side note: my first post here did not wrap properly. I've checked all of the systems I use for Email and all are set to 72 characters for outgoing messages ( Netscape 4.75 and 6.2 ). IF this message has the same problem I'm open to suggestions on resolving it. ) Thanks Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com
Re: Tarball conversion
The format is a gzipped tarball (gzip is a different format and algorithm than zip). Both winzip and power archiver can open gzipped and tarred files without any trouble. Once opened, I think the documents are in HTML format, but I'm not certain. I was able to get the files using Winzip, however of the 92 files within the zip file most of the information seems to be in EPS and SGML format, which windows of course can not identify at this time. What strikes me as funny is that the site in question (http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/) seems sincere in it efforts to help new Debian users, however those of us running a Windows environment can not read the documents they offer which would help us get away from the problems inherent in the Windows lifestyle ( grinding your teeth, pulling your hair out, punching your desk or wall, etc ) .. sigh g Thanks for the tip. Paul
Re: Tarball conversion
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 11:25:52AM -0800, Paul A. Thomas wrote: | The format is a gzipped tarball (gzip is a different format and | algorithm than zip). Both winzip and power archiver can open gzipped | and tarred files without any trouble. Once opened, I think the | documents are in HTML format, but I'm not certain. | | I was able to get the files using Winzip, however of the 92 files within | the zip file most of the information seems to be in EPS and SGML format, | which windows of course can not identify at this time. EPS is Encapsulated PostScript. You should be able to view them with ghostview (or gview32 or whatever the executable is called on windows). SGML is a plain-text markup language for writing the documentation it. They actually follow the DocBook conventions. Use $EDITOR for viewing them. | What strikes me as funny is that the site in question | (http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/) seems sincere in it efforts to help | new Debian users, however those of us running a Windows environment can | not read the documents they offer which would help us get away from the | problems inherent in the Windows lifestyle ( grinding your teeth, | pulling your hair out, punching your desk or wall, etc ) .. sigh g | | Thanks for the tip. On that site I see : || | Release files | || | |The complete|| | | | Newbiedoc | Newbiedoc || | Downloadable | | Release 0.3.0 | documentation in || | tarball| | |HTML format.|| | | | | Version 0.3.0|| | | |---+++---+--| | Newbiedoc | Newbiedoc tips || | Downloadable | | Fortune Tips |formatted as|| | tarball| | 1.0 | Fortune cookies || | | |---+++---+--| | |The complete|| | | | Newbiedoc | Newbiedoc || | Downloadable | | Release 0.3.0 | documentation in || | tarball| | | PostScript format. || | | | | Version 0.3.0|| | | |---+++---+--| | |The complete|| | | | Newbiedoc | Newbiedoc || | Downloadable | | Release 0.3.0 | documentation|| | tarball| | | source in SGML. || | | | | Version 0.3.0|| | | || so you have the choice of formats to get the documentation. Given that you're still in windows (and you want to view the docs on-line) I recommend the HTML format : http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tarballs/newbiedoc-html-0.3.0.tar.gz They also have the HTML docs available directly on their web server so you can browse them without downloading a tarball. HTH, -D -- Better a little with righteousness than much gain with injustice. Proverbs 16:8
Re: Tarball conversion
Paul == Paul A Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The format is a gzipped tarball (gzip is a different format and algorithm than zip). Both winzip and power archiver can open gzipped and tarred files without any trouble. Once opened, I think the documents are in HTML format, but I'm not certain. Paul I was able to get the files using Winzip, however of the 92 Paul files within the zip file most of the information seems to Paul be in EPS and SGML format, which windows of course can not Paul identify at this time. Paul What strikes me as funny is that the site in question Paul (http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/) seems sincere in it Paul efforts to help new Debian users, however those of us Paul running a Windows environment can not read the documents Not being involved in newbiedoc, what's about: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tarballs/newbiedoc-html-0.3.0.tar.gz Paul they offer which would help us get away from the problems Paul inherent in the Windows lifestyle ( grinding your teeth, Paul pulling your hair out, punching your desk or wall, etc ) Paul .. sigh g Paul Thanks for the tip. MH -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 id: 1024D/0B56B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key pgprIqfSUxi2G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tarball conversion
Given that you're still in windows (and you want to view the docs on-line) I recommend the HTML format : http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tarballs/newbiedoc-html-0.3.0.tar.gz They also have the HTML docs available directly on their web server so you can browse them without downloading a tarball. The single source all encompassing document is not available via HTML, only bits and pieces, at least per their home page. I was trying to find a way to translate that single document ( or is it? 92 separate pieces in the tarball... ) and print it for use as a reference guide for myself and others here at the office as we look into going to Linux for our desktops as well as the servers. Thanks for the thoughts tho. I copied the Newbiedoc organization on this as they would seem to be addressing Windows users: perhaps they will have a URL for me. thanks again! Paul
Re: Tarball conversion
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:01:38PM -0800, Paul A. Thomas wrote: | Given that you're still in windows (and you want to view the docs | on-line) I recommend the HTML format : | | http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tarballs/newbiedoc-html-0.3.0.tar.gz | | They also have the HTML docs available directly on their web server so | you can browse them without downloading a tarball. | | The single source all encompassing document is not available via HTML, | only bits and pieces, at least per their home page. I was trying to | find a way to translate that single document ( or is it? 92 separate | pieces in the tarball... ) newbiedoc is a project, not a document. The project consists of many smaller documents that are small enough and detailed enough to help a newbie get started. | and print it for use as a reference guide for myself and others here | at the office as we look into going to Linux for our desktops as | well as the servers. Do you have a unix machine already? It would be fairly trivial to write a one-line shell script that spools all the postscript documents to the printer. (PS generally prints better than HTML too) Also be aware that newbie-oriented docs aren't going to go into all the details and intricacies of any piece of software. Once you are familiar enough with the software I recommend moving on to more complete, yet less newbie-friendly, documents. -D -- (E)ventually (M)alloc()s (A)ll (C)omputer (S)torage
Re: Tarball conversion
newbiedoc is a project, not a document. The project consists of many smaller documents that are small enough and detailed enough to help a newbie get started. That may be it. It is confusing tho: their home page states you can obtain The complete Newbiedoc documentation in HTML format. Version 0.3.0 or in PostScript or SGML versions IMSHO, that mean all of the smaller articles in one easily downloaded bundle. Do you have a unix machine already? no: I haven't touched any variant of UNIX in almost 10 years, not since I did a LITTLE bit to pass the UNIX portion of the CNE exam. Also be aware that newbie-oriented docs aren't going to go into all the details and intricacies of any piece of software Understood. I am sort of imersing myself in Linux as time permits. This project's document looked like a good place to add to the initial phase of becoming competent with Linux. Regards: Paul
Re: Tarball conversion
newbiedoc is a project, not a document. The project consists of many smaller documents that are small enough and detailed enough to help a newbie get started. That may be it. It is confusing tho: their home page states you can obtain The complete Newbiedoc documentation in HTML format. Version 0.3.0 or in PostScript or SGML versions IMSHO, that mean all of the smaller articles in one easily downloaded bundle. Do you have a unix machine already? no: I haven't touched any variant of UNIX in almost 10 years, not since I did a LITTLE bit to pass the UNIX portion of the CNE exam. Also be aware that newbie-oriented docs aren't going to go into all the details and intricacies of any piece of software Understood. I am sort of imersing myself in Linux as time permits. This project's document looked like a good place to add to the initial phase of becoming competent with Linux. Regards: Paul
