Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?

2015-03-06 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum




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 Subject: Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?
 
 On 02/03/15 08:22 AM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 
  Hi, i have a USB keyboard that, every week or three, will drop off, and 
 require replugging to work again. It is immediately recognized and works fine 
 after I do this This was the case on a previous Wheezy system, and it still 
 happens on a Jessie box I built.
 
  The problem is that the new box has hard-to-access USB ports, so in order 
 to replug the keyboard, I have to remove a panel, so its not just a quick 
 step.
 
  I realize that there's probably no easy solution--if the keyboard 
 doesn't respond, i cant enter a command to re-recognize it--but are there 
 any things i can try that would help prevent this from happening in the first 
 place?
 
 
 In order to fix a problem, you first need to identify what is causing 
 it. Is there any log entry(s) related to the keyboard?


Sorry for the delay, i needed to wait for it to happen again.

No, there are no useful log messages. When the keyboard drops off, there is 
nothing in the logs to indicate this; when i re-plug it, I get a usual list of 
messages with nothing indicating that theres a problem.

At the (obvious in retrospect) suggestion of someone elsethread, I did just get 
a 6 extention cable, thus making it trivial to re-plug it when this happens. 
I'd rather it just works in the first place, but this will have to do. (The 
keyboard is a custom build and cannot be replaced.)

Thanks.

Jen


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Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?

2015-03-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 12:26:40 + (UTC)
Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.com wrote:


 
 At the (obvious in retrospect) suggestion of someone elsethread, I
 did just get a 6 extention cable, thus making it trivial to re-plug
 it when this happens. I'd rather it just works in the first place,
 but this will have to do. (The keyboard is a custom build and cannot
 be replaced.)
 

A long shot: try plugging the keyboard via a USB hub, and if you have a
few hubs lying around, try all of them. There is supposedly a USB
standard, but not all implementations are created equal, and you might
find a hub with which your keyboard is happier, and which has no
problems with your computer USB port. USB is a moderately complex
networking protocol, and there are definitely compatibility issues with
some ports and peripherals.

-- 
Joe


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Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?

2015-03-06 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Joe a écrit :
 
 USB is a moderately complex networking protocol

USB is not a networking protocol.
It is a master-slave peripheral communication bus, just like PCI or SATA.


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Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?

2015-03-06 Thread Glenn English

 On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 12:26:40 + (UTC)
 Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 The keyboard is a custom build and cannot
 be replaced.

I don't know what was done to customize the keyboard. But can it be replaced 
for a few days/weeks (longer that it takes the regular one to crash), to see if 
another one will work reliably? I keep thinking it's gotta be the USB circuitry 
in the keyboard -- I'm assuming there's nothing but a USB cable between the 
keyboard and your computer. 

Maybe whoever customized the keyboard could diagnose/fix it. It may just be a 
bad chip or a loose connection inside the KB. 

-- 
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Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?

2015-03-06 Thread Joe
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 22:19:59 +0100
Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote:

 Joe a écrit :
  
  USB is a moderately complex networking protocol
 
 USB is not a networking protocol.
 It is a master-slave peripheral communication bus, just like PCI or
 SATA.
 
 

It is not peer to peer, but neither is it simple master to slave. It is
hierarchical: each intermediate slave hub must engage in speed and
bandwidth negotiation both up and down the line. I thought it simpler
to say 'networking'.

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Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?

2015-03-02 Thread Richard Hector
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On 03/03/15 02:22, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 The problem is that the new box has hard-to-access USB ports, so in
 order to replug the keyboard, I have to remove a panel, so its not
 just a quick step.

In the event you can't fix it properly (faulty keyboard perhaps?), you
could use an extension cable, or a hub?

Richard
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Re: USB keyboard required replugging--how to avoid?

2015-03-02 Thread Gary Dale

On 02/03/15 08:22 AM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

Hi, i have a USB keyboard that, every week or three, will drop off, and require 
replugging to work again. It is immediately recognized and works fine after I 
do this This was the case on a previous Wheezy system, and it still happens on 
a Jessie box I built.

The problem is that the new box has hard-to-access USB ports, so in order to 
replug the keyboard, I have to remove a panel, so its not just a quick step.

I realize that there's probably no easy solution--if the keyboard doesn't 
respond, i cant enter a command to re-recognize it--but are there any things i 
can try that would help prevent this from happening in the first place?


In order to fix a problem, you first need to identify what is causing 
it. Is there any log entry(s) related to the keyboard?



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