Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/05/2014 06:51 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On 1/6/14, Dave Woyciesjes  wrote:

On 01/05/2014 12:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/05/2014 12:57 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

working.. maybe it is a hardware issue?? going bad?


  I'm guessing that there is some service crapping out. I don't
think it's hardware, because I was just using 2 different external
HDDs & 2 different USB drives just fine in the same USB ports

I meant more like the trackball itself, not your USB sub-system..


  Oops, oh yeah, no.  Both are fine in a different laptop, and when
this one is in the docking station - where they are connected to the
docking station USB ports, since the ones on the laptop are blocked

Could there be some docking station disconnection thing happening?
Possibly, but it seems odd, since it all was fine short time ago, before 
I blew away Ubuntu for Debian.


Have you been watching syslog or dmesg ?
Yeah, but haven't been able to discern anything. I'll have to test more 
and watch closely.


lsusb or lspci ?? Especially comparing between when the mouse works,
and when it doesn't? (diff is your friend :)

Yeah, all looks normal.

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/6/14, Dave Woyciesjes  wrote:
> On 01/05/2014 12:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
>> On 01/05/2014 12:57 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
 working.. maybe it is a hardware issue?? going bad?

>>>  I'm guessing that there is some service crapping out. I don't
>>> think it's hardware, because I was just using 2 different external
>>> HDDs & 2 different USB drives just fine in the same USB ports
>> I meant more like the trackball itself, not your USB sub-system..
>>
>  Oops, oh yeah, no.  Both are fine in a different laptop, and when
> this one is in the docking station - where they are connected to the
> docking station USB ports, since the ones on the laptop are blocked

Could there be some docking station disconnection thing happening?

Have you been watching syslog or dmesg ?

lsusb or lspci ?? Especially comparing between when the mouse works,
and when it doesn't? (diff is your friend :)


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/05/2014 12:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/05/2014 12:57 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

working.. maybe it is a hardware issue?? going bad?


 I'm guessing that there is some service crapping out. I don't
think it's hardware, because I was just using 2 different external
HDDs & 2 different USB drives just fine in the same USB ports

I meant more like the trackball itself, not your USB sub-system..

Oops, oh yeah, no.  Both are fine in a different laptop, and when 
this one is in the docking station - where they are connected to the 
docking station USB ports, since the ones on the laptop are blocked


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/05/2014 12:56 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/05/2014 12:55 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

 I'm guessing there is some service that is crapping out.

anything in /var/log/syslog  ??



Nah, nothing obvious. May have missed something. Got any ideas what 
to look for ?


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/05/2014 07:06 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/04/2014 09:12 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

 Except that today, nothing again.

did you log in using XFCE then Cinnamon?? weird that it went away after
working.. maybe it is a hardware issue?? going bad?

I'm guessing that there is some service crapping out. I don't think 
it's hardware, because I was just using 2 different external HDDs & 2 
different USB drives just fine in the same USB ports


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-05 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/05/2014 07:06 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/04/2014 09:12 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

 Except that today, nothing again.

did you log in using XFCE then Cinnamon?? weird that it went away after
working.. maybe it is a hardware issue?? going bad?


I'm guessing there is some service that is crapping out.

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 01/04/2014 09:12 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>>
> Except that today, nothing again. 
did you log in using XFCE then Cinnamon?? weird that it went away after
working.. maybe it is a hardware issue?? going bad?

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-04 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/03/2014 10:38 PM, Doug wrote:

On 01/03/2014 07:46 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when

/snip/

I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
login window came up, that was it.
 I'm kinda stumped here...

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with 
the

trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?


Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with 
any suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


Have you tried unplugging the mouse/trackball and then plugging it 
back in again, after it has stopped working?


Yep. First thing I tried. Neither mouse nor trackball work with 
Debian when not in the docking station. But all was well with Ubuntu.


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-04 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/04/2014 06:16 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/03/2014 08:31 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

That's the odd thing. All I did was install XFCE, then noticed the
trackball working at the login greeter. Logged in to XFCE, Cinnamon,
and now back in to Gnome like I want, and it works everywhere

yay!!! so, you were missing a library or something... I just tried to
install a printer, and no printer menu!!! anywhere! I was missing
the printer menu, but cups & print-to-pdf was there... wierd things happen!


Except that today, nothing again.

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-03 Thread Doug

On 01/03/2014 07:46 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when

/snip/

I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
login window came up, that was it.
 I'm kinda stumped here...

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with the
trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?


Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with any 
suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


Have you tried unplugging the mouse/trackball and then plugging it back 
in again, after it has stopped working?


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-03 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/03/2014 08:23 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/03/2014 08:20 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

 I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with
any suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


 Well, now this is interesting.I installed XFCE, and now the
trackball is working in Gnome. Time to test the mouse, which I
anticipate will work.
 XFCE must've brought in whatever was needed...

not necessarily... if you go back, it still may not work.. let us know!!

That's the odd thing. All I did was install XFCE, then noticed the 
trackball working at the login greeter. Logged in to XFCE, Cinnamon, and 
now back in to Gnome like I want, and it works everywhere


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-03 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 01/03/2014 07:46 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

On 12/31/2013 05:07 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/31/2013 04:03 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

it..my problem with Debian is the ice...dove/weasel.. rather than
the real thunderbird. I like thunderbird, I don't want it rebranded.

I added the Linux Mint Debian Edition repositories to get Firefox &
Thunderbird.

I just downloaded the Debian DVD... made some room on my 2nd drive. I
may install Debian  tomorrow ..a day off:)

does lsusb show anything different for your mouse with the docking
station attached??


 Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when
I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
login window came up, that was it.
 I'm kinda stumped here...

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with the
trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?


Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with any 
suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


Well, now this is interesting.I installed XFCE, and now the 
trackball is working in Gnome. Time to test the mouse, which I 
anticipate will work.

XFCE must've brought in whatever was needed...

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2014-01-03 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 12/31/2013 05:07 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/31/2013 04:03 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

it..my problem with Debian is the ice...dove/weasel.. rather than
the real thunderbird. I like thunderbird, I don't want it rebranded.

I added the Linux Mint Debian Edition repositories to get Firefox &
Thunderbird.

I just downloaded the Debian DVD... made some room on my 2nd drive. I
may install Debian  tomorrow ..a day off:)

does lsusb show anything different for your mouse with the docking
station attached??


 Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when
I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
login window came up, that was it.
 I'm kinda stumped here...

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with the
trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?


Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with any 
suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2013-12-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/31/2013 04:03 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>> it..my problem with Debian is the ice...dove/weasel.. rather than
>> the real thunderbird. I like thunderbird, I don't want it rebranded.
> I added the Linux Mint Debian Edition repositories to get Firefox &
> Thunderbird.

I just downloaded the Debian DVD... made some room on my 2nd drive. I
may install Debian  tomorrow ..a day off:)
>>
>> does lsusb show anything different for your mouse with the docking
>> station attached??
>>
> Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when
> I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
> has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
> greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
> login window came up, that was it.
> I'm kinda stumped here... 

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with the
trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2013-12-31 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 12/31/2013 07:58 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/30/2013 04:49 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

 Partly ideological; I don't like the way things seems to be
heading. Canonical's way or F-Off. Got moderated on the Ubuntu user's
list for voicing/agreeing with opinions that differ from the Ubuntu
Way. ;)
 And this little puppy seems to run a bit better with Debian &
Gnome3 vs Ubuntu Gnome3.

not exactly sure what gnome3 is..

Current/stable version of Gnome desktop

  I don't see any screenshots on
debian.org . I installed Mate desktop, I feel really comfortable with
it..my problem with Debian is the ice...dove/weasel.. rather than
the real thunderbird. I like thunderbird, I don't want it rebranded.
I added the Linux Mint Debian Edition repositories to get Firefox & 
Thunderbird.


does lsusb show anything different for your mouse with the docking
station attached??

Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when 
I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that 
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the greeter 
(? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the login window 
came up, that was it.

I'm kinda stumped here...

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2013-12-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/30/2013 04:49 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> Partly ideological; I don't like the way things seems to be
> heading. Canonical's way or F-Off. Got moderated on the Ubuntu user's
> list for voicing/agreeing with opinions that differ from the Ubuntu
> Way. ;)
> And this little puppy seems to run a bit better with Debian &
> Gnome3 vs Ubuntu Gnome3. 
not exactly sure what gnome3 is.. I don't see any screenshots on
debian.org . I installed Mate desktop, I feel really comfortable with
it..my problem with Debian is the ice...dove/weasel.. rather than
the real thunderbird. I like thunderbird, I don't want it rebranded.

does lsusb show anything different for your mouse with the docking
station attached??

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2013-12-30 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 12/30/2013 04:33 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

On 12/30/2013 04:09 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
I'm embarking on a missions, to figure why the USB mouse doens't work 
on my Dell Latitude D430.
When I had Ubuntu on here, up to and including 13.10; USB mice 
worked fine. Did not change BIOS settings. Only install Debian stable.


USB flash drives work fine, and the mouse lights up. But nothing 
else


Hints?


Additional testing

Switched in BIOS the built-in USB hub from High Speed to Compatible. 
No go.


USB Emulation in BIOS - no go if Off or On.

gpointing-device installed, detects the Logitech trackball,but that's it.

Hmmm, now when the laptop is in the D-Dock docking station, the USB 
mouse works WTF?


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2013-12-30 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

**Apologies, meant to bring this back to this list

On 12/30/2013 04:46 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

On 12/30/2013 04:21 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/30/2013 04:09 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

 I'm embarking on a missions, to figure why the USB mouse doens't
work on my Dell Latitude D430.
 When I had Ubuntu on here, up to and including 13.10; USB mice
worked fine. Did not change BIOS settings. Only install Debian stable.

 USB flash drives work fine, and the mouse lights up. But nothing
else

Hints?


so, why did you not like Ubuntu & change to Debian?? I went from Debian
to Ubuntu:)
Partly ideological; I don't like the way things seems to be 
heading. Canonical's way or F-Off. Got moderated on the Ubuntu user's 
list for voicing/agreeing with opinions that differ from the Ubuntu 
Way. ;)
And this little puppy seems to run a bit better with Debian & 
Gnome3 vs Ubuntu Gnome3.


other than that, what does
#lsusb show ?


dave@mini-me:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 413c:a005 Dell Computer Corp. Internal 2.0 Hub
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c408 Logitech, Inc. Marble Mouse (4-button)
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0b97:7761 O2 Micro, Inc. Oz776 1.1 Hub
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 360 
Bluetooth

Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0b97:7762 O2 Micro, Inc. Oz776 SmartCard Reader
dave@mini-me:~$



maybe syslog shows something?


Nothing obvious.




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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

2013-12-30 Thread Dave Woyciesjes

On 12/30/2013 04:09 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
I'm embarking on a missions, to figure why the USB mouse doens't work 
on my Dell Latitude D430.
When I had Ubuntu on here, up to and including 13.10; USB mice 
worked fine. Did not change BIOS settings. Only install Debian stable.


USB flash drives work fine, and the mouse lights up. But nothing 
else


Hints?


Additional testing

Switched in BIOS the built-in USB hub from High Speed to Compatible. No go.

USB Emulation in BIOS - no go if Off or On.

gpointing-device installed, detects the Logitech trackball,but that's it.

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"The problem with troubleshooting is that trouble shoots back."
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