Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-09-02 Thread Andy Streich
On Thursday 01 September 2005 07:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I used java-package along with Sun's Java 5.  Instructions here:
  http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142
 
 Great article!  That works for me.  Thanks for your help.
 
 Returning to my original question of free Debian Java packages,
 I think this quote from the article above summarizes the situation:
 
    Whilst there [are] a growing number of open Java environments
     at times installing Sun Java environment is the pragmatic
     approach. . . .

Sun recently made another noise about opensourcing Java sometime in the 
future.   I sure won't hold my breath.  If they'd only loosened up enough to 
allow a real deb package to be constructed I'd be happy.  

Andy
(ex-Sun Java Division)



Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-09-01 Thread Guido Heumann
Am Mittwoch, 31. August 2005 21:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[...]
 I wasn't asking whether there's an official Debian package
 for the Sun Java.  I knew that's impossible exactly for the reason
 you explain.  What I was asking was whether there are _free_ Java
 components usable as a browser plugin and if there are, which Debian
 package contains them.

 Well, I didn't explicitly say that, but I mentioned the standard Debian
 way, which usually means that you use official _free_ Debian packages
 if possible.

I think you might get the info you want from this mail
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg2.html

or perhaps from the Debian Java Wiki:
http://java.debian.net/

cheers,
Guido


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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-09-01 Thread charlie
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:07:18 +0200
Guido used the keyboard to craft this:

  |Am Mittwoch, 31. August 2005 21:15 schrieb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:  |[...]
  | I wasn't asking whether there's an official Debian package
  | for the Sun Java.  I knew that's impossible exactly for the reason
  | you explain.  What I was asking was whether there are _free_ Java
  | components usable as a browser plugin and if there are, which
Debian  | package contains them.
  |
  | Well, I didn't explicitly say that, but I mentioned the standard
Debian  | way, which usually means that you use official _free_ Debian
packages  | if possible.
  |
  |I think you might get the info you want from this mail
  |http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg2.html
  |
  |or perhaps from the Debian Java Wiki:
  |http://java.debian.net/
  |
  |cheers,
  |Guido
 

 Or maybe you might like to look at and apt-get install free-java-sdk?

Charlie

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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-09-01 Thread furufuru
Andy Streich wrote:
 On Tuesday 30 August 2005 02:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 I used java-package along with Sun's Java 5.  Instructions here:
 http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142

Great article!  That works for me.  Thanks for your help.

Returning to my original question of free Debian Java packages,
I think this quote from the article above summarizes the situation:

   Whilst there [are] a growing number of open Java environments
at times installing Sun Java environment is the pragmatic
approach. . . .

Regards,
Ryo


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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-08-31 Thread Andy Streich
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 02:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Debian users,
 
 I'm wondering which Debian package(s) I should install for Java
 plugins for opera and mozilla.  Most of the documents I found on
 the net talk about downloading J2RE from a Sun site.  Does this
 mean there aren't standard Debian packages which can replace
 Sun's Java?
 
 Not that I don't want to use Sun's Java, but that I prefer the
 standard Debian way of package management if possible.
 
 Thank you,
 Ryo

I used java-package along with Sun's Java 5.  Instructions here:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142


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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-08-31 Thread Bob Proulx
kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
  Download your favorite JRE or JDK and then use java-package to build
  yourself the Debian package from it.

 I think the OP wants to know if Debian offers any JRE or JDK instead of 
 building the Debian packages himself.

That may be true but Debian cannot legally distribute Sun Java
packages due to the Sun license.  So the only option available for
users is to build it themselves.

Bob


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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-08-31 Thread furufuru
Bob Proulx wrote:
 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
  Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
   Download your favorite JRE or JDK and then use java-package to build
   yourself the Debian package from it.
 
  I think the OP wants to know if Debian offers any JRE or JDK instead of
  building the Debian packages himself.

Yes, that's what I meant.

 That may be true but Debian cannot legally distribute Sun Java
 packages due to the Sun license.  So the only option available for
 users is to build it themselves.

I wasn't asking whether there's an official Debian package
for the Sun Java.  I knew that's impossible exactly for the reason
you explain.  What I was asking was whether there are _free_ Java
components usable as a browser plugin and if there are, which Debian
package contains them.

Well, I didn't explicitly say that, but I mentioned the standard Debian
way, which usually means that you use official _free_ Debian packages
if possible.

Thanks for your response, anyway.

Regards,
Ryo



Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-08-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 02:18:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Debian users,
 
 I'm wondering which Debian package(s) I should install for Java
 plugins for opera and mozilla.  Most of the documents I found on
 the net talk about downloading J2RE from a Sun site.  Does this
 mean there aren't standard Debian packages which can replace
 Sun's Java?
 
 Not that I don't want to use Sun's Java, but that I prefer the
 standard Debian way of package management if possible.
 
Download your favorite JRE or JDK and then use java-package to build
yourself the Debian package from it.

-Roberto

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http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto


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Re: Which Java for browser plugins?

2005-08-30 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:


On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 02:18:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Hello Debian users,

I'm wondering which Debian package(s) I should install for Java
plugins for opera and mozilla.  Most of the documents I found on
the net talk about downloading J2RE from a Sun site.  Does this
mean there aren't standard Debian packages which can replace
Sun's Java?

Not that I don't want to use Sun's Java, but that I prefer the
standard Debian way of package management if possible.

   


Download your favorite JRE or JDK and then use java-package to build
yourself the Debian package from it.

-Roberto
 

I think the OP wants to know if Debian offers any JRE or JDK instead of 
building the Debian packages himself.


raju

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Graduate Student, MAE
Cornell University
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/


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