Re: XServer Randomly restarting
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:06:07 -0500 Mr Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 02:50:52 -0400 Ryan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 18 June 2005 11:57 pm, Mr Mike wrote: A while back I was running a pure sarge system with several upgrades from the sid branch.. At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. I've looked in xsession error log, syslog, messages, etc.. and NOT a damn thing... it's as if some invisible soul is lurking over my shoulder and pressing ctl+alt+bkspace every now and then just to piss me off... One good thing to come of this is I've learned to save my work much more frequently... Anyway... I'm now running a mixed ubuntu/sarge (mostly sarge) box and the issue remains although not as bad as in the past. Is there some way I can figure out what in the world is causing this so I can formulate a resolution? Or, is there something else I should look at, like hardware problems? TIA.. mike.. houston, tx Binary nVidia drivers with ' Option RenderAccel true ' in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, by any chance? I've seen it cause almost identical behavior in the past... -- Ryan Schultz - floating point exception: divide by cucumber Thanks Ryan, I wasnt' sure if i was using binary driver for video card or not.. took a look at xconfig and this is it.. Section Monitor Identifier GATEWAY VX900 HorizSync 30-95 VertRefresh 50-160 Option DPMS EndSection Search didn't turn up RenderAccel anywhere in the file either... Thanks for the hint... will try to keep it in mind for future reference... (like right.. along with the other 14 billion bits of linux stuff we're expected to learn.. LOL..) -- Cheers: Mike ... Now, a little humor compliments of Linux Fortune... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stupid cut/paste.. :-( here's the REAL deal from XF86Config-4 Section Device Identifier NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] Driver nv BusID PCI:1:5:0 VideoRam32768 EndSection btw... been having some real trouble keeping up with my mail due to a serious family illness... but workin on it when I can... This is really a true annoyance but not critical.. i've been living with it for a while now and some days it won't do it at all.. Go figure.. Anyway... I don't want to let it fester and have all intentions of trackin it down and puttin the nasty little thing to rest... Just bear with my slow responses... -- Cheers: Mike .. Now, a little humor compliments of Linux Fortune... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
On Saturday 18 June 2005 11:57 pm, Mr Mike wrote: A while back I was running a pure sarge system with several upgrades from the sid branch.. At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. I've looked in xsession error log, syslog, messages, etc.. and NOT a damn thing... it's as if some invisible soul is lurking over my shoulder and pressing ctl+alt+bkspace every now and then just to piss me off... One good thing to come of this is I've learned to save my work much more frequently... Anyway... I'm now running a mixed ubuntu/sarge (mostly sarge) box and the issue remains although not as bad as in the past. Is there some way I can figure out what in the world is causing this so I can formulate a resolution? Or, is there something else I should look at, like hardware problems? TIA.. mike.. houston, tx Binary nVidia drivers with ' Option RenderAccel true ' in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, by any chance? I've seen it cause almost identical behavior in the past... -- Ryan Schultz - floating point exception: divide by cucumber pgpoEDMYiWt3v.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:33:37 -0500 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Mike wrote: At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. My gut instinct is memory or overheating. memtest would be in order for the RAM; temp monitoring utilities might be in order for the heating. It could be the cpu (maybe)... I 'did' have a terrible memory stick and didn't know it but has since been replaced and did full memtest (all 9 of them) on it just about 5 days or so ago because I just wanted to make sure the memory hadn't gone bad again.. If I can't blame it on something else, I'll try upgrading CPU and see if that helps any... Cheers: Mike .. Now, a little humor compliments of Linux Fortune... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:29:46 -0400 Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Mike wrote: A while back I was running a pure sarge system with several upgrades from the sid branch.. At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. I've looked in xsession error log, syslog, messages, etc.. and NOT a damn thing... it's as if some invisible soul is lurking over my shoulder and pressing ctl+alt+bkspace every now and then just to piss me off... One good thing to come of this is I've learned to save my work much more frequently... Anyway... I'm now running a mixed ubuntu/sarge (mostly sarge) box and the issue remains although not as bad as in the past. Is there some way I can figure out what in the world is causing this so I can formulate a resolution? Or, is there something else I should look at, like hardware problems? TIA.. mike.. houston, tx You don't give any information about your system, so it's highly unlikely that anyone will be able to troubleshoot for you. In lieu of waiting for specific questions, some commands that may give useful output are: lspci dpkg -l |grep xfree cat /etc/X11/XFConfig-4 uname -a zcat /proc/config.gz (Edit the information as appropriate and according to your knowledge of the usefulness of the data. I think more is better but list conventions vary regarding large postings. You might check the FAQ for protocol for posting large files or attachments.) Actually I had no idea what would be relevant and absolutely no idea where to even start.. Thanks for the help... I'll look into these and see if there's anything noteworthy.. -- Cheers: Mike .. Now, a little humor compliments of Linux Fortune... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 02:50:52 -0400 Ryan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 18 June 2005 11:57 pm, Mr Mike wrote: A while back I was running a pure sarge system with several upgrades from the sid branch.. At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. I've looked in xsession error log, syslog, messages, etc.. and NOT a damn thing... it's as if some invisible soul is lurking over my shoulder and pressing ctl+alt+bkspace every now and then just to piss me off... One good thing to come of this is I've learned to save my work much more frequently... Anyway... I'm now running a mixed ubuntu/sarge (mostly sarge) box and the issue remains although not as bad as in the past. Is there some way I can figure out what in the world is causing this so I can formulate a resolution? Or, is there something else I should look at, like hardware problems? TIA.. mike.. houston, tx Binary nVidia drivers with ' Option RenderAccel true ' in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, by any chance? I've seen it cause almost identical behavior in the past... -- Ryan Schultz - floating point exception: divide by cucumber Thanks Ryan, I wasnt' sure if i was using binary driver for video card or not.. took a look at xconfig and this is it.. Section Monitor Identifier GATEWAY VX900 HorizSync 30-95 VertRefresh 50-160 Option DPMS EndSection Search didn't turn up RenderAccel anywhere in the file either... Thanks for the hint... will try to keep it in mind for future reference... (like right.. along with the other 14 billion bits of linux stuff we're expected to learn.. LOL..) -- Cheers: Mike .. Now, a little humor compliments of Linux Fortune... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Mr Mike wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 02:50:52 -0400 Ryan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 18 June 2005 11:57 pm, Mr Mike wrote: A while back I was running a pure sarge system with several upgrades from the sid branch.. At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. I've looked in xsession error log, syslog, messages, etc.. and NOT a damn thing... it's as if some invisible soul is lurking over my shoulder and pressing ctl+alt+bkspace every now and then just to piss me off... One good thing to come of this is I've learned to save my work much more frequently... Anyway... I'm now running a mixed ubuntu/sarge (mostly sarge) box and the issue remains although not as bad as in the past. Is there some way I can figure out what in the world is causing this so I can formulate a resolution? Or, is there something else I should look at, like hardware problems? TIA.. mike.. houston, tx Binary nVidia drivers with ' Option RenderAccel true ' in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, by any chance? I've seen it cause almost identical behavior in the past... -- Ryan Schultz - floating point exception: divide by cucumber Thanks Ryan, I wasnt' sure if i was using binary driver for video card or not.. took a look at xconfig and this is it.. Section Monitor Identifier GATEWAY VX900 HorizSync 30-95 VertRefresh 50-160 Option DPMS EndSection Search didn't turn up RenderAccel anywhere in the file either... That's the Monitor section. Ryan's suggesting you look at the Device section, like so: Section Device Identifier ATI Rage 128 Driver ati BusID PCI:01:0:0 EndSection If you have an nVidia card, your driver is likely to be either nVidia or nv (IIRC) rather than an ati (or something else) as in the above case. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:06:07 -0500 Mr Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Section Monitor Identifier GATEWAY VX900 HorizSync 30-95 VertRefresh 50-160 Option DPMS EndSection Search didn't turn up RenderAccel anywhere in the file either... Thanks for the hint... will try to keep it in mind for future reference... (like right.. along with the other 14 billion bits of linux stuff we're expected to learn.. LOL..) Um, that's the monitor section of your file, not the video card section, isn't it? Cybe R. Wizard -- Q: What's the difference between MicroSoft Windows and a virus? A: Apart from the fact that viruses are supported by their authors, use optimized, small code and usually perform well, none. Winduhs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Mr Mike wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:29:46 -0400 Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Mike wrote: At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. You don't give any information about your system, so it's highly unlikely that anyone will be able to troubleshoot for you. In lieu of waiting for specific questions, some commands that may give useful output are: lspci dpkg -l |grep xfree cat /etc/X11/XFConfig-4 uname -a zcat /proc/config.gz Actually I had no idea what would be relevant and absolutely no idea where to even start.. Thanks for the help... I'll look into these and see if there's anything noteworthy.. He means that you should list the video-related (and other-related?) stuff that results from the command lspci. He's looking for version information of X with the dpkg command. He's looking for the contents of your X config file. He's looking for your kernel version with the uname command. I'm unsure what he's trying to accomplish with the zcat command; I find no config.gz file in my /proc directory. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Kent West wrote: Mr Mike wrote: snip Actually I had no idea what would be relevant and absolutely no idea where to even start.. Thanks for the help... I'll look into these and see if there's anything noteworthy.. snip I'm unsure what he's trying to accomplish with the zcat command; I find no config.gz file in my /proc directory If you set the proper option when building your kernel, it will put a gzipped kernel configuration here (so it turns out to be a great way to get the configuration for how the currently running kernel was build). ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Kent West wrote: Here's another that might be useful (it will list all installed modules): lsmod I'm unsure what he's trying to accomplish with the zcat command; I find no config.gz file in my /proc directory. That shows the kernel configuration in recent kernels using that option. If that doesn't work try cat /boot/config (IIRC). Unless this type of basic system information is known, it will be very hard for list members to even formulate useful questions about the failure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Mr Mike wrote: Thanks Ryan, I wasnt' sure if i was using binary driver for video card or not.. took a look at xconfig and this is it.. Section Monitor Identifier GATEWAY VX900 HorizSync 30-95 VertRefresh 50-160 Option DPMS EndSection Search didn't turn up RenderAccel anywhere in the file either... Thanks for the hint... will try to keep it in mind for future reference... (like right.. along with the other 14 billion bits of linux stuff we're expected to learn.. LOL..) Ideally you should not have to learn or remember anything just to use the X graphical interface. I've changed my mind about one thing -- instead of selectively posting your system information, please post all of it here and let list readers decide what's relevant or not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Mr Mike wrote: A while back I was running a pure sarge system with several upgrades from the sid branch.. At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. I've looked in xsession error log, syslog, messages, etc.. and NOT a damn thing... it's as if some invisible soul is lurking over my shoulder and pressing ctl+alt+bkspace every now and then just to piss me off... One good thing to come of this is I've learned to save my work much more frequently... Anyway... I'm now running a mixed ubuntu/sarge (mostly sarge) box and the issue remains although not as bad as in the past. Is there some way I can figure out what in the world is causing this so I can formulate a resolution? Or, is there something else I should look at, like hardware problems? TIA.. mike.. houston, tx You don't give any information about your system, so it's highly unlikely that anyone will be able to troubleshoot for you. In lieu of waiting for specific questions, some commands that may give useful output are: lspci dpkg -l |grep xfree cat /etc/X11/XFConfig-4 uname -a zcat /proc/config.gz (Edit the information as appropriate and according to your knowledge of the usefulness of the data. I think more is better but list conventions vary regarding large postings. You might check the FAQ for protocol for posting large files or attachments.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Mr Mike wrote: At some point my X Server began to 'restart' on it's own for no real apparent rhyme or reason. ie, the action that triggered the restart one session could not always be duplicated in another one... Simple things like clinking the 'x' to close the window or clicking the background to bring up a menu. Like I said, really random and unpredictable. My gut instinct is memory or overheating. memtest would be in order for the RAM; temp monitoring utilities might be in order for the heating. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
