Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121217111847.GB26408@debian
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more details please read. https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-reference/cha.yast.text.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121217111847.GB26408@debian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMnEPsz4N2DxWvx8UnsneqYxd0sOOaO_2=5ds3bhrpp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 11:18 +, Jon Dowland wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? And do you want ncurses or a GUI? For installing and uninstalling software by using a GUI you e.g. can use Synaptic. If you want to reconfigure something by ncurses, dpkg-reconfigure e.g. keyboard-configuration. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1355751923.4691.98.camel@q
Re: Yast for debian
Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more details please read. https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-reference/cha.yast.text.html What about aptitude? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software) -- Davide Mirtillo Ser. Tec. S.R.L. http://dpidgprinting.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50cf2806.3050...@ser-tec.org
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. pseudo-graphical does mean ncurses, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncurses , then you should take a look at dpkg-reconfigure, as I've wrtten in a previous mail, e.g. dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1355754361.4691.126.camel@q
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 15:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. pseudo-graphical does mean ncurses, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncurses , then you should take a look at dpkg-reconfigure, as I've wrtten in a previous mail, e.g. dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration PS: You could write a simple bash script (even without knowledge how to write scripts, it can be learned on the fly). There are several ncurses based apps to configure your server. A script could ask for what to do? E.g. 1. Keyboard 2. Network 3. Quit 1. e.g. will run dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration 2. perhaps could run pppoeonf 3. simply would be exit 0. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1355755278.4691.132.camel@q
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Davide Mirtillo dav...@ser-tec.org wrote: Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more details please read. https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-reference/cha.yast.text.html What about aptitude? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software) Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does. I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=82tfq-sbesemwcibhymtr8jk-utht8sqb5hs-js85...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Yast for debian
Kelly writes: I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. That should not be all in one program. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87zk1cvbkm@thumper.dhh.gt.org
RE: Yast for debian
Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Davide Mirtillo dav...@ser-tec.org wrote: Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? SUSE administration tool. instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface to manage the server. for more details please read. https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_114/opensuse-ref erence/cha.yast.text.html What about aptitude? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software) Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does. I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed. Cheers, Kelly Clowers The majority of Debian maintainers are aware of the existence of Yast. I expect that if interest in it was that high, they would have long ago adapted it for Debian. Since they haven't, I assume that interest in it is not that high. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/030e01cddc7f$37aa5700$a6ff0500$@allums.com
Re: Yast for debian
Kelly Clowers grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does. I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed. When exactly was webmin removed? $ aptitude show webmin Package: webmin New: yes State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 1.610 Priority: optional Section: admin Maintainer: Jamie Cameron jcame...@webmin.com Uncompressed Size: 133 M Depends: perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl, libauthen-pam-perl, libpam-runtime, libio-pty-perl, apt-show-versions, python PreDepends: perl Replaces: webmin-adsl, webmin-apache, webmin-bandwidth, webmin-bind, webmin-burner, webmin-cfengine, webmin-cluster, webmin-core, webmin-cpan, webmin-dhcpd, webmin-exim, webmin-exports, webmin-fetchmail, webmin-firewall, webmin-freeswan, webmin-frox, webmin-fsdump, webmin-grub, webmin-heartbeat, webmin-htaccess, webmin-inetd, webmin-jabber, webmin-ldap-netgroups, webmin-ldap-user-simple, webmin-ldap-useradmin, webmin-lilo, webmin-logrotate, webmin-lpadmin, webmin-lvm, webmin-mailboxes, webmin-mon, webmin-mysql, webmin-nis, webmin-openslp, webmin-postfix, webmin-postgresql, webmin-ppp, webmin-pptp-client, webmin-pptp-server, webmin-procmail, webmin-proftpd, webmin-pserver, webmin-quota, webmin-samba, webmin-sarg, webmin-sendmail, webmin-shorewall, webmin-slbackup, webmin-smart-status, webmin-snort, webmin-software, webmin-spamassassin, webmin-squid, webmin-sshd, webmin-status, webmin-stunnel, webmin-updown, webmin-usermin, webmin-vgetty, webmin-webalizer, webmin-wuftpd, webmin-wvdial, webmin-xinetd Description: web-based administration interface for Unix systems Using Webmin you can configure DNS, Samba, NFS, local/remote filesystems and more using your web browser. After installation, enter the URL https://localhost:1/ into your browser and login as root with your root password. Seems to be there on my system (squeeze 6.0.6) :-) --Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Yast for debian
David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Kelly Clowers grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does. I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). I do not know of anything like it in Debian since webmin was removed. When exactly was webmin removed? $ aptitude show webmin Package: webmin New: yes State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 1.610 Priority: optional Section: admin Maintainer: Jamie Cameron jcame...@webmin.com Uncompressed Size: 133 M Depends: perl, libnet-ssleay-perl, openssl, libauthen-pam-perl, libpam-runtime, libio-pty-perl, apt-show-versions, python PreDepends: perl Replaces: webmin-adsl, webmin-apache, webmin-bandwidth, webmin-bind, webmin-burner, webmin-cfengine, webmin-cluster, webmin-core, webmin-cpan, webmin-dhcpd, webmin-exim, webmin-exports, webmin-fetchmail, webmin-firewall, webmin-freeswan, webmin-frox, webmin-fsdump, webmin-grub, webmin-heartbeat, webmin-htaccess, webmin-inetd, webmin-jabber, webmin-ldap-netgroups, webmin-ldap-user-simple, webmin-ldap-useradmin, webmin-lilo, webmin-logrotate, webmin-lpadmin, webmin-lvm, webmin-mailboxes, webmin-mon, webmin-mysql, webmin-nis, webmin-openslp, webmin-postfix, webmin-postgresql, webmin-ppp, webmin-pptp-client, webmin-pptp-server, webmin-procmail, webmin-proftpd, webmin-pserver, webmin-quota, webmin-samba, webmin-sarg, webmin-sendmail, webmin-shorewall, webmin-slbackup, webmin-smart-status, webmin-snort, webmin-software, webmin-spamassassin, webmin-squid, webmin-sshd, webmin-status, webmin-stunnel, webmin-updown, webmin-usermin, webmin-vgetty, webmin-webalizer, webmin-wuftpd, webmin-wvdial, webmin-xinetd Description: web-based administration interface for Unix systems Using Webmin you can configure DNS, Samba, NFS, local/remote filesystems and more using your web browser. After installation, enter the URL https://localhost:1/ into your browser and login as root with your root password. Seems to be there on my system (squeeze 6.0.6) :-) Scratch that, I think now that I vaguely remember that webmin *wasn't* available via the normal Debian repositories. But it was so flipping simple to just download the .deb package from webmin.com and install that, that I forgot I had to go there to get it. :-) And, of course, once it's installed in the system, of *course* aptitude is going to list it on a show command grin So it might not be in the Debian repositories (to which I have to find myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the maintainers not keep such a valuable package available?), but it's dirt easy to grab a .deb package and install it. --Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Yast for debian
--Dave writes: I have to find myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the maintainers not keep such a valuable package available? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;dist=unstable;package=webmin -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vcc0v60e@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: --Dave writes: I have to find myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the maintainers not keep such a valuable package available? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;dist=unstable;package=webmin And specifically http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897 So it was yanked from unstable at the beginning of 2006 and then propagated down normally, with Etch (2007) releasing without it. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=-0luv+c-zy3hpcyjfeomwdxhg8kqhhqlw0bpueosc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:36:33 -0800 Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: --Dave writes: I have to find myself asking the question, Why on Earth would the maintainers not keep such a valuable package available? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;dist=unstable;package=webmin And specifically http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897 So it was yanked from unstable at the beginning of 2006 and then propagated down normally, with Etch (2007) releasing without it. Cheers, Kelly Clowers It does seem to be in active development again (still?) and have a .deb package: http://www.webmin.com/index.html Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes The Barsoom Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121217150040.2a911e3d@wizardstower
Re: Yast for debian
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012 schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? Thanks You might want to try webmin and/or usermin. But it is no more in the debian repositories. I guess, no debian-developer took a look at it for years. They said at that time it is bad coded, with spaghetti-code. But this was 5 years ago. Maybe the code is now better. But as I said: No one took a look at it again, although I often have asked for it in the past. To find it, use google, I think, www.webmin.org might be the site. Good luck! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201212172350.52740.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: Yast for debian
On Lu, 17 dec 12, 16:17:56, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? Kids, don't try this at home: dpkg-reconfigure --all Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Yast for debian
On 12/17/2012 08:03 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). What about Web YaST? http://webyast.github.com/webyast/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50cfef56.4010...@gmail.com
Re: Yast for debian
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Monte Milanuk memila...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/17/2012 08:03 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST has a TUI mode and a GUI mode like SMIT/SMITTY; no web interface). What about Web YaST? http://webyast.github.com/webyast/ Never heard of it before. Looks like a separate piece of software though, not part of YAST. Thanks for the info though. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=-vrn-=vF+wob60ZDX-pOk4uGHbAVWgynS1=5pk_eg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: YaST
* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])[20040319 22:49]: Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing services. Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv? (Not that you should know, but wondering) You're allowed to do this for yourself without insisting everybody else be inflicted with the same useless Program Files style directory management Windows suffers from. 8:o) That's a total non-sequitur. Someone obviously hasn't read the FHS ... (and yet, still feels qualified to comment on it's uselessness). good times, Vineet pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: YaST
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Tom Allison wrote: I guess the news is out. SuSE's YaST is going GPL this year. http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top I've used it and found it a pretty decent tool. Me too. I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. I just filed an Intent To Package it. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. I just filed an Intent To Package it. Interesting. I'm not familiar enough with the YaST inner workings to know how it might manage the differences in file locations because of the Debian Policy. About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing services. Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv? (Not that you should know, but wondering) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:55:29PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: I'm not familiar enough with the YaST inner workings to know how it might manage the differences in file locations because of the Debian Policy. I think anyone who packaged YaST for Debian would have to make it fit into Debian, not the other way round. About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing services. Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv? $ zcat /usr/share/doc/base-files/changelog.gz | head -n 3 base-files (3.0.13) unstable; urgency=low * Added /srv, /media and /usr/local/share/man (Closes: #230909). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
ditto - I used to use suse 5.2 5.3 - before trying redhat mdk settling here. Don't remember why I changed from suse (just to check the hype around rh i think) but I've missed YaST ever since. Though I notice I dont seem to miss it as much in debian as I did in RH, perhaps the defaults are better, or they ask the right questinons on configure. Looking forward to seeing appear it in aptitudes new packages :-) Glenn On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 08:00, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Tom Allison wrote: I guess the news is out. SuSE's YaST is going GPL this year. http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top I've used it and found it a pretty decent tool. Me too. I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. I just filed an Intent To Package it. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing services. Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv? (Not that you should know, but wondering) You're allowed to do this for yourself without insisting everybody else be inflicted with the same useless Program Files style directory management Windows suffers from. 8:o) - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW+l1UzgNqloQMwcRAp8LAJ9BTVZM+wvWXS7xyk4j4sAT3tpUlACg5o1Y 68qhRyF34IjDXMyxC3ndH4U= =ccNH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
