Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 22 Mar 2019 at 21:16:11 (+0100), Hans wrote:
> Am Freitag, 22. März 2019, 20:45:13 CET schrieb bw:
> > In-Reply-To: <4205892.cicxXhXihB@protheus2>
> > 
> > >Both systems got an identical configuration but behave different.
> > 
> > I'm confused, did you try the methods you mentioned with no result?
> Well, all solutions I read, where about setterm or using kernel tags. But 
> this 
> is not what I am looking for. I am not looking for a solution (which I can 
> easily reach with setterm or a kernel parameter).
> 
> > 
> > Are you looking for how to solve it, or a clue why it is that way?
> 
> See above. I would like to understand, why two identically configured systems 
> behave different. This means for me, that some configuration(s) do not take 
> any 
> effect. But which one And I want just be sure, that I did something not 
> see.

Are the systems identical, or just the configurations?

I think you wrote EEEPC. These are obsolete? I read that setterm uses
APM for blanking when available. That's obsolete. So I guess what I'm
asking is, "Is it worth worrying about if you are able to solve the
problem anyway?".

Cheers,
David.



Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-22 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 22. März 2019, 20:45:13 CET schrieb bw:
> In-Reply-To: <4205892.cicxXhXihB@protheus2>
> 
> >Both systems got an identical configuration but behave different.
> 
> I'm confused, did you try the methods you mentioned with no result?
Well, all solutions I read, where about setterm or using kernel tags. But this 
is not what I am looking for. I am not looking for a solution (which I can 
easily reach with setterm or a kernel parameter).

> 
> Are you looking for how to solve it, or a clue why it is that way?

See above. I would like to understand, why two identically configured systems 
behave different. This means for me, that some configuration(s) do not take any 
effect. But which one And I want just be sure, that I did something not 
see.

Best

Hans



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Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-22 Thread bw
In-Reply-To: <4205892.cicxXhXihB@protheus2>

>Both systems got an identical configuration but behave different.

I'm confused, did you try the methods you mentioned with no result?

Are you looking for how to solve it, or a clue why it is that way?



Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-22 Thread deloptes
Hans wrote:

> As I said, not in X, but the console in the terminal you reach by ALT-F1,
> ALT-F2 and so on. And sa I also said: Both systems got an identical
> configuration but behave different.
> 
> Best
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/
>
Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with
> _setterm[2]

And the link I sent is about DPMS on the console and it is also not clear if
they use the same monitor, but even so - they might have different video
cards.

regards



Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-22 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 21. März 2019, 23:13:39 CET schrieb deloptes:




On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:15 AM Hans  wrote:


>> No, I mean not in windowmanager (or X), I mean in TTY1 - 5.



> So what about the monitor or precisely the DPMS setting 


As I said, not in X, but the console in the terminal you reach by ALT-F1, 
ALT-F2 and 
so on. And sa I also said: Both systems got an identical configuration but 
behave 
different.

Best

Hans


https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/
Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with
_setterm[2]








[1] mailto:hans.ullr...@loop.de
[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/
Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with
_setterm


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Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-20 Thread Hans
No, this is not want I want. However, i know ybout kernel params.

Best

Hans

> How about no blanking at all?
> consoleblank=0
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt



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Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-19 Thread Felix Miata
Hans composed on 2019-03-19 12:08 (UTC+0100):

> on my EEEPC, debian/testing, i386 since last update the blank time of the 
> console (TTY1 - 5 ) is too short (1 Minute).

> I checked with another system, but all configurations are the same.

> How can I increase the time, until the console is blanking?

How about no blanking at all?
consoleblank=0
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
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Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-19 Thread deloptes
Hans wrote:

> I had the hope, there might be someone pointing me to something else, I
> missed somewhere. :)

by blank you mean the screen goes dark or the time it waits for password?
For me blank is the screen goes dark and this is setting the blanking of the
screen - nothing to do with the console or terminal settings. It happens
when I use RS232 to connect to the firewall for example, but I don't know
how long it takes - if it is a minute or more.





Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-19 Thread Hans
> > > I also know, that the blank time is hardcoded in the kernel (both got
> > > the same kernel version) and that it can be set either by a kernel
> > > parameter or using a setterm command in a login.def.
> 
> Oh, it sounds like you already knew the answer before you asked us.
> For the benefit of others who may be searching the archives looking
> for the answer to this question, perhaps you could tell us which kernel
> parameter this is.
> 
> (So, why did you ask us?)

I had the hope, there might be someone pointing me to something else, I missed 
somewhere. :)

Best

Hans







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Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:28:43PM +0100, Martin wrote:
> May be, it is bash's TMOUT what you are looking for.

No, that makes the shell exit.  It doesn't do anything to the monitor.

Try looking at setterm(1), perhaps?

> Am 19.03.19 um 12:08 schrieb Hans:
> > I know of setterm, and I checked /etc/console-*/* as well as 
> > /etc/laptop-mode/
> > *. 

Oh.  Well, there goes my knowledge.

> > Others, like /etc/kbd/* or /etc/init/tty/* are not existent on both systems.
> > 
> > I also know, that the blank time is hardcoded in the kernel (both got the 
> > same 
> > kernel version) and that it can be set either by a kernel parameter or 
> > using a 
> > setterm command in a login.def.

Oh, it sounds like you already knew the answer before you asked us.
For the benefit of others who may be searching the archives looking
for the answer to this question, perhaps you could tell us which kernel
parameter this is.

(So, why did you ask us?)



Re: blank time in console too short

2019-03-19 Thread Martin
May be, it is bash's TMOUT what you are looking for.

Am 19.03.19 um 12:08 schrieb Hans:
> Hi folks, 
> 
> on my EEEPC, debian/testing, i386 since last update the blank time of the 
> console (TTY1 - 5 ) is too short (1 Minute).
> 
> I checked with another system, but all configurations are the same.
> 
> How can I increase the time, until the console is blanking?
> 
> I know of setterm, and I checked /etc/console-*/* as well as /etc/laptop-mode/
> *. 
> 
> Others, like /etc/kbd/* or /etc/init/tty/* are not existent on both systems.
> 
> I also know, that the blank time is hardcoded in the kernel (both got the 
> same 
> kernel version) and that it can be set either by a kernel parameter or using 
> a 
> setterm command in a login.def.
> 
> Question: 
> Is there any configuration option I missed? 
> 
> If "NO": Why is the behaviour different between the systems?
> 
> If "YES": Where should I look, too?
> 
> Thanks for any hints.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Hans
>