Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-30 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 08:14:40PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
 On Wed,. Jan 28, 2009 at 11:23:04PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On 01/28/2009 07:52 PM, Glenn Becker wrote:
...
 Clear anything else you've downloaded. Use the adobe-flashplugin in Sid 
 non-free - which will go to the Adobe website, download the correct 
 thing and install it.
 
 It's one .deb from Sid, so you won't necessarily hose your whole system.
 
 HTH,

Although I have not tested adobe-flashplugin package in Ubuntu, I am
sure it probably will work on Debian sid.  

adobe-flashplugin is ubuntu package.  I do not see it in Debian (sid or
whatever).  Debian sid package is flashplugin-nonfree.

Everyone here, please, this is Dbian support ML.  Before suggesting
non-Debian to be Debian one, please check if your system is using Debian
package.

Osamu


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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-30 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/30/2009 06:59 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 08:14:40PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Wed,. Jan 28, 2009 at 11:23:04PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/28/2009 07:52 PM, Glenn Becker wrote:

...
Clear anything else you've downloaded. Use the adobe-flashplugin in Sid 
non-free - which will go to the Adobe website, download the correct 
thing and install it.


It's one .deb from Sid, so you won't necessarily hose your whole system.

HTH,


Although I have not tested adobe-flashplugin package in Ubuntu, I am
sure it probably will work on Debian sid.  


adobe-flashplugin is ubuntu package.  I do not see it in Debian (sid or
whatever).  Debian sid package is flashplugin-nonfree.

Everyone here, please, this is Dbian support ML.  Before suggesting
non-Debian to be Debian one, please check if your system is using Debian
package.


The Ubuntu 8.04 package from adobe.com *does* work with Sid. 
Probably also with Lenny.


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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-30 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 01/30/2009 06:59 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Everyone here, please, this is Dbian support ML.  Before suggesting
 non-Debian to be Debian one, please check if your system is using Debian
 package.
 
 The Ubuntu 8.04 package from adobe.com *does* work with Sid. Probably
 also with Lenny.

I guess Osamu's point was that one shouldn't recommend using foreign
packages, if there are debian packages for the same purpose as well.

Are you sure that the Ubuntu package will be supported for Lenny's
release cycle?

Is the ubuntu package so much better and so well supported as to really
recommend it to users who might stay with lenny after the release?

Cheers,
Johannes

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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-30 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/30/2009 10:28 AM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:


Ron Johnson wrote:

On 01/30/2009 06:59 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:

Everyone here, please, this is Dbian support ML.  Before suggesting
non-Debian to be Debian one, please check if your system is using Debian
package.

The Ubuntu 8.04 package from adobe.com *does* work with Sid. Probably
also with Lenny.


I guess Osamu's point was that one shouldn't recommend using foreign
packages, if there are debian packages for the same purpose as well.


Is using an upstream deb any worse than using an upstream tar.gz?


Are you sure that the Ubuntu package will be supported for Lenny's
release cycle?


It's a closed-source program, so I'm not sure of anything about it.


Is the ubuntu package so much better and so well supported as to really
recommend it to users who might stay with lenny after the release?


It's a wrapper around the same close-source files that we install in 
other ways.


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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-29 Thread Glenn Becker


I've searched around and couldn't find an adobe-flashplugin package. Which 
repo is it from?  I'm using the flashplayer-mozilla package from the Lenny 
repo at www.Debian-Multimedia.org and YouTube, etc., works great for me.


Ah, sorry. It wasn't from a repo ... I went to Youtube, clicked the link 
that read upgrade to the latest version, was taken to adobe.com where I 
downloaded the *.deb, installed it with dpkg, etc etc.


I will clean out all Flash - related stuff I have and try the the repo you 
suggest, maybe I will have better luck.


There is an irony in my posting this at all, one that I don't like: I'm 
one of those Flash is the scourge of the Internet types. I shouldn't 
care about this AT ALL, but I just got tired of my browser bursting like 
a bubble  so on ...


Thanks for the tips,

Glenn

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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-29 Thread Glenn Becker


You mean install_flash_player_10_linux.deb?  I got that, installed it with 
dpkg -i, and now have (squeezing out spaces):


$ dpkg -l | grep flash
ii  adobe-flashplugin 10.0.15.3-1hardy1 Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10

Flash works perfectly.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Iceweasel-Add-ons.png


No Flash. Still got the lovely


Dumb question: did you restart Iceweasel?


I did. I suspect the app is becoming confused by multiple versions sitting 
around. I am going to try a cleanup.


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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-29 Thread Kevin Philp

Glenn Becker wrote:


You mean install_flash_player_10_linux.deb?  I got that, installed it 
with dpkg -i, and now have (squeezing out spaces):


$ dpkg -l | grep flash
ii  adobe-flashplugin 10.0.15.3-1hardy1 Adobe Flash Player plugin 
version 10


Flash works perfectly.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Iceweasel-Add-ons.png


No Flash. Still got the lovely


Dumb question: did you restart Iceweasel?


I did. I suspect the app is becoming confused by multiple versions 
sitting around. I am going to try a cleanup.


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If you want to browse without flash there are plenty of options - I 
use adblock+ and add a blocking riule of *.swf. There are also 
specific flash blockers.




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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-29 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:23:04PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 You mean install_flash_player_10_linux.deb?  I got that, installed it 
 with dpkg -i, and now have (squeezing out spaces):

 $ dpkg -l | grep flash
 ii  adobe-flashplugin 10.0.15.3-1hardy1 Adobe Flash Player plugin  
 version 10

 Flash works perfectly.

 http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Iceweasel-Add-ons.png

I guess any method works but the above seems ubuntu package.  I think
you can always install manually the latest one.  there s even amd64
version now.

FYI: Although there were some time lag for new amd64 support, Debian sid has 

i   flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin

This works fine here under amd64 with sid.

Osamu


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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-29 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/29/2009 07:47 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:23:04PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
You mean install_flash_player_10_linux.deb?  I got that, installed it 
with dpkg -i, and now have (squeezing out spaces):


$ dpkg -l | grep flash
ii  adobe-flashplugin 10.0.15.3-1hardy1 Adobe Flash Player plugin  
version 10


Flash works perfectly.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Iceweasel-Add-ons.png


I guess any method works but the above seems ubuntu package.  I think
you can always install manually the latest one.  there s even amd64
version now.


Yes.  It works well for me in 32-bit Sid.

FYI: Although there were some time lag for new amd64 support, Debian sid has 


i   flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin

This works fine here under amd64 with sid.

Osamu





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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:23:04PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 01/28/2009 07:52 PM, Glenn Becker wrote:

 Hi all -

 I should probably admit that I haven't been booting my Debian install  
 lately, and it has mainly been due to irritation with Iceweasel and not 
 doing anything constructive about it b/c it worked fine over on another 
 Linux system I have (no names ...).

 I am running testing and have been for some time. I don't recall when  
 Flash stopped working, but this has been the case for some time. At  
 first, I searched in Aptitude for anything related to Flash, just to  
 make sure I had everything available installed. No help.

 I just read over a few threads in the -user list,  on the strength of  
 what I found I tried simply following the install the latest version  
 link from a Flash-intensive site ... chose the (Ubuntu) .deb and  
 installed it. Restarted Iceweasel, enabled the new Flash player v. 10 
 in the plugins dialogue and disabled the older ones. Restarted 
 Iceweasel.

 You mean install_flash_player_10_linux.deb?  I got that, installed it 
 with dpkg -i, and now have (squeezing out spaces):

 $ dpkg -l | grep flash
 ii  adobe-flashplugin 10.0.15.3-1hardy1 Adobe Flash Player plugin  
 version 10

 Flash works perfectly.

 http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Iceweasel-Add-ons.png

 No Flash. Still got the lovely

 Dumb question: did you restart Iceweasel?

 Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of  
 Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.

 Javascript is on. I did a dpkg-reconfigure on adobe-flashplugin.  
 Restarted Iceweasel, checked plugins ... and v. 10 of the Flash player  
 had disappeared and I was still getting the same message when I tried 
 to play anything on Youtube.

 I'm 98% certain I am doing something stupid here, but would appreciate  
 it if someone could point me in the direction of ... something that 
 will tell me how to diagnose the problem and make it all better. Cuz 
 I'm close to throwing the laptop (or just my Debian installation) 
 against the wall.

 -- 
Clear anything else you've downloaded. Use the adobe-flashplugin in Sid 
non-free - which will go to the Adobe website, download the correct 
thing and install it.

It's one .deb from Sid, so you won't necessarily hose your whole system.

HTH,

AndyC

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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-28 Thread Daryl Styrk
Glenn Becker wrote:
 
 Hi all -
 
 I should probably admit that I haven't been booting my Debian install
 lately, and it has mainly been due to irritation with Iceweasel and not
 doing anything constructive about it b/c it worked fine over on another
 Linux system I have (no names ...).
 
 I am running testing and have been for some time. I don't recall when
 Flash stopped working, but this has been the case for some time. At
 first, I searched in Aptitude for anything related to Flash, just to
 make sure I had everything available installed. No help.
 
 I just read over a few threads in the -user list,  on the strength of
 what I found I tried simply following the install the latest version
 link from a Flash-intensive site ... chose the (Ubuntu) .deb and
 installed it. Restarted Iceweasel, enabled the new Flash player v. 10 in
 the plugins dialogue and disabled the older ones. Restarted Iceweasel.
 
 No Flash. Still got the lovely
 
 Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of
 Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
 
 Javascript is on. I did a dpkg-reconfigure on adobe-flashplugin.
 Restarted Iceweasel, checked plugins ... and v. 10 of the Flash player
 had disappeared and I was still getting the same message when I tried to
 play anything on Youtube.
 
 I'm 98% certain I am doing something stupid here, but would appreciate
 it if someone could point me in the direction of ... something that will
 tell me how to diagnose the problem and make it all better. Cuz I'm
 close to throwing the laptop (or just my Debian installation) against
 the wall.
 
 Thx,
 
 Glenn
 
 
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I just downloaded the tar.gz from adobe and copied libflashplayer.so to
~/.mozilla/plugins..

You probably want to remove anything that aptitude search flash finds
installed..

As far as a packaged version working.. I have never had any luck on
debian..



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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-28 Thread Kevin Monceaux

Glenn,

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Glenn Becker wrote:


I should probably admit that I haven't been booting my Debian install lately,


I've been running some other Linux distros, not to mention FreeBSD and 
OpenSolaris, for quite a while.  I think I've finally come to my senses 
and just recently reinstalled Debian.



I am running testing and have been for some time.


I've run testing with my last few Debian installs and have had no flash 
problems.


I don't recall when Flash stopped working, but this has been the case 
for some time.


I can easily remember when flash stopped working for me.  It was when I
switched to FreeBSD.  :-)


Javascript is on. I did a dpkg-reconfigure on adobe-flashplugin.


I've searched around and couldn't find an adobe-flashplugin package. 
Which repo is it from?  I'm using the flashplayer-mozilla package from the 
Lenny repo at www.Debian-Multimedia.org and YouTube, etc., works great for 
me.




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Re: flash / iceweasel / all that

2009-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/28/2009 07:52 PM, Glenn Becker wrote:


Hi all -

I should probably admit that I haven't been booting my Debian install 
lately, and it has mainly been due to irritation with Iceweasel and not 
doing anything constructive about it b/c it worked fine over on another 
Linux system I have (no names ...).


I am running testing and have been for some time. I don't recall when 
Flash stopped working, but this has been the case for some time. At 
first, I searched in Aptitude for anything related to Flash, just to 
make sure I had everything available installed. No help.


I just read over a few threads in the -user list,  on the strength of 
what I found I tried simply following the install the latest version 
link from a Flash-intensive site ... chose the (Ubuntu) .deb and 
installed it. Restarted Iceweasel, enabled the new Flash player v. 10 in 
the plugins dialogue and disabled the older ones. Restarted Iceweasel.


You mean install_flash_player_10_linux.deb?  I got that, installed 
it with dpkg -i, and now have (squeezing out spaces):


$ dpkg -l | grep flash
ii  adobe-flashplugin 10.0.15.3-1hardy1 Adobe Flash Player plugin 
version 10


Flash works perfectly.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Iceweasel-Add-ons.png


No Flash. Still got the lovely


Dumb question: did you restart Iceweasel?

Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of 
Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.


Javascript is on. I did a dpkg-reconfigure on adobe-flashplugin. 
Restarted Iceweasel, checked plugins ... and v. 10 of the Flash player 
had disappeared and I was still getting the same message when I tried to 
play anything on Youtube.


I'm 98% certain I am doing something stupid here, but would appreciate 
it if someone could point me in the direction of ... something that will 
tell me how to diagnose the problem and make it all better. Cuz I'm 
close to throwing the laptop (or just my Debian installation) against 
the wall.


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