Re: hard drive NOT found during install!
Thanks for the suggestion, I didn't even notice the bf2.4 flavour of woody. Anyway, I tried it, unfortunately it didn't work. I would have thought that by 2.4.18 that they would include support for the AEC6280. The kernel-config said that it supported aec62xx, I guess 80 doesn't come in that range. I've done a quick install of debian on a friends laptop and will compile the drivers which are available from acard, and see how it turns out. Thanks for the help, but if you have anymore suggestions, I'd love to hear them. -- Waheed Islam [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 28/06/02 21:25, you wrote: Waheed Islam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Could you PLEASE help! during installation... my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody. It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS). This is a just a guess, since I don't have access to that controller, BUT you just "might' get lucky with the "bf4" flavor of boot floppies from "testing" / Woody. This particuar set has been built around the 2.4.18 kernel, and they just might have included support for that controller...dunno. In any case, you will know rather quickly when you put in the "boot" disk... the messages will tell you if it found it or not. If it is found, you can proceed with the rest of the install. I would recommend concentrating on Woody and give up on Potato. The changes needed to run a 2.4.X kernel are just too great to make on install media, IMHO (unless you are a real guru). Woody is about to be released as "stable" quite soon, so you probably are NOT giving up much stability, and you will gain quite a lot in flexibility, IMHO. Cheers & Good Luck! -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard drive NOT found during install!
Waheed Islam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Could you PLEASE help! during installation... my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody. It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS). The card is new and works perfectly in Win98, both my primary and secondary hdd's are connected to it. The drive's are too large to be recognised by my motherboards' controller / bios. So that's no alternative. (Both hdd's are Western Digital 40gig Caviar). website for controller: http://www.acard.com/eng/product/adapter/pc/ide/aec-6280.html The linux drivers are avail from: http://161.58.88.33/download/linux/driver/ide/aec6280_ver10.tar (un-compiled c). And (i think) are included in the 2.4.x kernel versions. I have tried the udma66 flavor of potato which supposedly includes support for the aec62xx cards (according to kernel-config). I have read many how-to's and docs, no success. Any suggestions, since this is my last hope to get potato installed. Is there a way to execute the potato installation using a brand new pre-compiled kernel? I don't have another linux box, thus can't compile a new kernel with support for the controller myself. PLEASE HELP! And thanks for reading / answering. This is a just a guess, since I don't have access to that controller, BUT you just "might' get lucky with the "bf4" flavor of boot floppies from "testing" / Woody. This particuar set has been built around the 2.4.18 kernel, and they just might have included support for that controller...dunno. In any case, you will know rather quickly when you put in the "boot" disk... the messages will tell you if it found it or not. If it is found, you can proceed with the rest of the install. I would recommend concentrating on Woody and give up on Potato. The changes needed to run a 2.4.X kernel are just too great to make on install media, IMHO (unless you are a real guru). Woody is about to be released as "stable" quite soon, so you probably are NOT giving up much stability, and you will gain quite a lot in flexibility, IMHO. Cheers & Good Luck! -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for the help and research dude. I've already tried the UDMA66 and IDEPCI flavors of Debian, unfortunately, no success. I'll probably get a friend or someone to compile the "drivers" supplied by ACard and see what I can make of it. If that doesn't work, I think I'll have to sell this card on and buy one which is listed as being supported by Debian / Linux. Thanks, -- Waheed Islam [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 28/06/02 14:04, you wrote: > Hi, > > Could you PLEASE help! > > during installation... > > my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody. > It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS). my best suggestion is to try the IDE install disks: http://saens.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/ chances are very good that there are no drivers available for it though.(on that disk) you can see a list of supported chipsets for linux here: http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html (some may require newer kernels and/or 3rd party patches to run) Ultra133 controllers are very very new . in this situation, I would move the install drive to a controller that is supported, install to it, and if your lucky you may be able to track down a driver(possibly in the 2.4. kernel). then perhaps you can migrate back to the other controller. with IDE controllers so cheap if it was my system i would get a promise ATA 100 controller instead ..(and use the IDE install disks) but thats me nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hard drive NOT found during install!
> Hi, > > Could you PLEASE help! > > during installation... > > my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody. > It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS). my best suggestion is to try the IDE install disks: http://saens.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/ chances are very good that there are no drivers available for it though.(on that disk) you can see a list of supported chipsets for linux here: http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html (some may require newer kernels and/or 3rd party patches to run) Ultra133 controllers are very very new . in this situation, I would move the install drive to a controller that is supported, install to it, and if your lucky you may be able to track down a driver(possibly in the 2.4. kernel). then perhaps you can migrate back to the other controller. with IDE controllers so cheap if it was my system i would get a promise ATA 100 controller instead ..(and use the IDE install disks) but thats me nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HARD DRIVE NOT FOUND!!!
NETO KWADJO wrote: > > Hello there! > I own an AST ADVANTAGE! pc. It worked perfectly > until I formatted the hard disk(c:\).I typed "FORMAT > C:\" at the C:\ prompt in a desperate attempt to free > disk space and reinstall windows. > > But I noticed that when I restarted my pc,It asked > for a "system disk". After I inserted it and got > access to the A:\ prompt,I tried changing to drive C: > but it keeps on giving me a message like "invalid > drive specification". > > Now it seems I have completely wiped out my hard > drive. > > Please help. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > __ Can fdisk see it? Perhaps the format somehow wiped the partition information, and you need to re-fdisk it. Also, some older BIOSes (I don't know how old the AST ADVANTAGE! is) could not see all of a drive if the drive was bigger than 512MB or so. If this is the case, there may be some overlay software still installed on the drive that is causing problems. Again, fdisk should be your friend. (Don't forget the "fdisk /mbr" option for good measure.)
Re: HARD DRIVE NOT FOUND!!!
Boot of a windows rescue disk and make sure the partition of your C: is marked bootable and that the partition is still there. I formatted a windows drive once along time ago and it removed the partitioning info. Was really weird. Robert Thus spake NETO KWADJO ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello there! > I own an AST ADVANTAGE! pc. It worked perfectly > until I formatted the hard disk(c:\).I typed "FORMAT > C:\" at the C:\ prompt in a desperate attempt to free > disk space and reinstall windows. > > But I noticed that when I restarted my pc,It asked > for a "system disk". After I inserted it and got > access to the A:\ prompt,I tried changing to drive C: > but it keeps on giving me a message like "invalid > drive specification". > > Now it seems I have completely wiped out my hard > drive. > > Please help. > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting.| definitely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. http://www.rnd-consulting.com/~nomad DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: hard drive not found
On 08-Dec-1999, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rick Dunnivan wrote: > > > > I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western > > digital hard drive. When I boot up with my Debian cd, > > my hard drive is not found. I see in the install > > documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported. > > How do I know if this is what I have? > Also for a gateway system you want to press the button that allows you to see the boot up messages, not the gateway splash screen.
Re: hard drive not found
Actually I figured this one out. The problem was my Ultra66 ATA controller. I unplugged my IDE cable from it and plugged it into the IDE on my motherboard instead. Thanks for the help. = rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hard drive not found
Rick Dunnivan wrote: > > I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western > digital hard drive. When I boot up with my Debian cd, > my hard drive is not found. I see in the install > documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported. > How do I know if this is what I have? I think by seeing the BIOS messages you have during the booting up the system woX-Mozilla-Status: 0009 disk is SCSI, usually there'll be a "Press ctrl" (well, all right, if this is SCSI and Adaptec). If the disk is IDE, usually you have the size of the disk get spit out on the screen. If you are willing, just open up the case and count the "cable" that attached into the disk (no, not the power cables which are colored). The cable looks like a tape that consists of many small cables. If the small ones are at least 50 of them, then the disk is SCSI. > This is the > first time I've attempted to install an operating > system of any kind, so be gentle. Am I gentle enough...? Oki
Re: hard drive not found
Rick Dunnivan wrote: > > I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western > digital hard drive. When I boot up with my Debian cd, > my hard drive is not found. I see in the install > documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported. > How do I know if this is what I have? I think by seeing the BIOS messages you have during the booting up the system would be helpful. If the disk is SCSI, usually there'll be a "Press ctrl" (well, all right, if this is SCSI and Adaptec). If the disk is IDE, usually you have the size of the disk get spit out on the screen. If you are willing, just open up the case and count the "cable" that attached into the disk (no, not the power cables which are colored). The cable looks like a tape that consists of many small cables. If the small ones are at least 50 of them, then the disk is SCSI. > This is the > first time I've attempted to install an operating > system of any kind, so be gentle. Am I gentle enough...? Oki
Re: hard drive not found
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western digital hard > drive. When I boot up with my Debian cd, my hard drive is not found. Ok. Do you happen to know what hard drive you have? I would not be surprised if your problem is because the Debian boot floppy is based on an ancient kernel. Have you tried a boot floppy from a more recently released distribution (like RedHat or SuSE)? Also a tip: this is how IDE drives are mapped under Linux: /dev/hda - the master drive on the primary controller /dev/hdb - the slave drive on the primary controller /dev/hdc - the master drive on the secondary controller /dev/hdd - the slave drive on the secondary controller If you see /dev/hdax (where x is a number), then that means "partition x on drive /dev/hda". On most PCs today, /dev/hda is the hard drive, and either /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd is the CD drive. > I see in the install documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not > supported. I don't think that's your problem. IDE-SCSI is used with IDE CD writers so that they'll work properly under Linux, and little else. This is from the documentation for the IDE-SCSI driver: This will provide SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices, and will allow you to use a SCSI device driver instead of a native ATAPI driver. This is useful if you have an ATAPI device for which no native driver has been written (for example, an ATAPI PD-CD or CDR drive); you can then use this emulation together with an appropriate SCSI device driver. In order to do this, say Y here and to "SCSI support" and "SCSI generic support", below. Note that this option does NOT allow you to attach SCSI devices to a box that doesn't have a SCSI host adapter installed. If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled into the kernel, the native support will be used. > How do I know if this is what I have? This is the first time I've > attempted to install an operating system of any kind, so be gentle. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Re: hard drive not found
Rick Dunnivan wrote: > I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western > digital hard drive. When I boot up with my Debian cd, > my hard drive is not found. I see in the install > documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported. > How do I know if this is what I have? This is the > first time I've attempted to install an operating > system of any kind, so be gentle. > > = > rick I'm certainly no hardware expert, but saying that a drive is an "IDE-SCSI" drive is akin to saying that a person is a "male-female" person; they are mutually exclusive (well, outside of New York City and a few other places, that is). Most IDE drives should be recognized without any problem. SCSI drives may require a custom kernel in order to be recognized (but usually this is because of the SCSI controller, not the drive itself). Your best bet is to get a screwdriver and open the case and physically look at what's inside. While there, make notes of all your hardware: make and model # of the hard drive, video card, sound card, SCSI card if it exists, etc. You'll need some of this later in the installation. If you can't find a model number on some of the cards, write down the important-looking numbers on some of the important looking chips; that might provide enough of a clue when you get to the point of needing specifics. Since this is your first time to install an OS, I might suggest that you take the time and effort to install MS-DOS from scratch (manually - boot off an MS-DOS floppy with fdisk.exe and format.com and then do an "fdisk" and a "format C: /s") before installing Debian. Then you can wipe out DOS and install Debian. The reason for this is so you can get a minimal "feel" for the similarities/differences in basic OS installations. At any rate, you're embarking on a great learning adventure. Have fun! Be prepared for frustrations, and for the feeling of accomplishment you'll get when you make it through.