Re: Motherboard suggestions? What about a ASUS DSEB-FG? (Intel 5400, Intel 6321 ESB, Marvell 6145, Z9S VGA)
Hi guys, One of the motherboards I'm considering is an ASUS DSEB-DG (http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1988l1=9l2=39l3=299l4=0). One of the things that gives me hope is that it comes with drivers for RedHat for the RAID controller. For my purposes I don't care about the RAID abilities of this board, but I'm hoping that this will mean that the other devices will work with either the standard kernel that comes with Debian, or with a custom kernel without needing special patches. Anyone know anything about linux on this board? North Bridge: Intel 5400 South Bridge: Intel 6321ESB SADA: Marvell 6145 Video: VGA XGI Z9s PCI Display Controller 32MB Thanks for your help, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard suggestions?
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Re: Motherboard suggestions?
Michael S. Peek: Can anyone suggest a motherboard w/ support for quad-core CPUs and gigabit ethernet? Video and sound don't matter (they'll be headless). Multiple CPUs and multiple ethernet welcome. I am running Debian AMD64 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P. It supports the latest 45nm Core2Duo CPUs (dual and quad) and has gigabit ethernet from Realtek. I needed the installer from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ for SATA support (and for ethernet, I think), but otherwise it works flawlessly. I didn't try installing from or to an IDE drive which might be a problem, but I don't know. The only quirk was that you have to use the module option model=6stack-digout for snd-hda-intel in order to hear sound. There's no graphic chip on the board so you'd have to get a separate one. J. -- A passionate argument means more to me than a blockbuster movie. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Motherboard suggestions?
Neil Watson wrote: Tyan Any Tyan motherboard? Are there any gotcha's that I would need to know about getting debian installed (special driver needs, kernel command line options, that sort of thing)? I've found both duel- and quad-CPU boards by Tyan that look very nice... Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jochen Schulz wrote: I am running Debian AMD64 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P. Thanks, I'll check into that. I don't really care about the sound, as it'll be a headless machine running in a server room. CPU power and gigabit ethernet is what I really care about. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
On 2001-05-04 15:21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note, though, that I've heard Athlon doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully, others can add more. Asus K7V, Athlon @ 800 MHz w/ 256 MB ECC running just fine here (had to flash upgrade BIOS to get ECC support though). /Allan -- Allan M. Wind email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.O. Box 2022 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GPG/PGP) Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA pgpGY81eitoI1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
On Sat, May 05, 2001, Allan Wind wrote: On 2001-05-04 15:21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note, though, that I've heard Athlon doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully, others can add more. Asus K7V, Athlon @ 800 MHz w/ 256 MB ECC running just fine here (had to flash upgrade BIOS to get ECC support though). /Allan Allan, Glad to hear it! I'm going the Athlon route (hopefully dual) myself soon, and want to get PC2100 ECC memory with it, so I'm glad to know you've made it work. My above comment was just a repetition of something that I'd read on one of the hardware review sites; hopefully, I made it sufficiently clear that I could have been wrong, as it turned out I was. Incidentally, what I really meant by my comment was that I had read that certain chipsets that support Athlons due not play well with ECC. I wonder if this is still possibly true, and your Asus is just an example of a better motherboard which uses a more-competently engineered chipset. Let's see... What are the main chipsets that support Athlon? AMD 760, Via kt133, Ali Magick (?or something), Sis (something I think). Anyone know if there is anything behind what I remember reading with one of these chipsets? Or maybe I'm just completely mistaken... Anyway, take care and thanks for sharing your Athlon success with me. -Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
Re: motherboard suggestions
hi Gregory... i've been collecting urls for dual cpu motherboards... http://www.linux-1u.net/1U_Features/dual.txt ( these are just the flip-chip cpu style ) since cpu and memory is so cheap now days... it might be good to replace the mb/cpu/mem just in case ??? have fun alvin http://www.Linux-1U.net ... 500Gb 1U Raid5 ... On Thu, 3 May 2001, Gregory T. Norris wrote: I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead one (i840 chipset) couldn't. It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest boards which might not support the old processors. Thanx!
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I'll definitely take a look. Thanx! On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:45:45PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: hi Gregory... i've been collecting urls for dual cpu motherboards... http://www.linux-1u.net/1U_Features/dual.txt ( these are just the flip-chip cpu style ) since cpu and memory is so cheap now days... it might be good to replace the mb/cpu/mem just in case ??? have fun alvin http://www.Linux-1U.net ... 500Gb 1U Raid5 ... pgpamaJbsRHey.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: motherboard suggestions
On Thu, May 03, 2001, Gregory T. Norris wrote: I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead one (i840 chipset) couldn't. It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest boards which might not support the old processors. Thanx! Hi, Depending upon how much you're looking to spend, you might want to look into a Supermicro board with a Serverworks chipset. A little on the pricey side (~$500+), but that might be worth it for you. I'm personally waiting (still...) for the dual Athlons to come out (promises, promises) which should give super bang for the buck (depending upon final unknown cost of dual motherboard) with PC2100 memory ($115/256Mb from Crucial). Hope this helps and take care, Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
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On Fri, May 04, 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 03, 2001, Gregory T. Norris wrote: I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead one (i840 chipset) couldn't. It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest boards which might not support the old processors. Thanx! Hi, Depending upon how much you're looking to spend, you might want to look into a Supermicro board with a Serverworks chipset. A little on the pricey side (~$500+), but that might be worth it for you. I'm personally waiting (still...) for the dual Athlons to come out (promises, promises) which should give super bang for the buck (depending upon final unknown cost of dual motherboard) with PC2100 memory ($115/256Mb from Crucial). Answering my own post (or at least adding to it). Just after posting, I read on theregister (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/18750.html) that AMD will supposedly be introducing the chipsets on this May 15 to support dual Athlons. The implication is that they will ship soon after. Who knows, though. You should judge for yourself, I just thought you might want to know. Take care, Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
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I would suggest looking at AnandTech (www.anandtech.com) or Tom's Hardware Guide (www.tomshardware.com). Both are excellent resources with in depth reviews by guys that REALLY understand hardware. In addition, anandtech had some links to vendors with very respectable prices. Using some reviews from anandtech, I just purchased a Iwill KK266 motherboard and an AMD Athlon 1GHz with 266MHz front side bus from newegg.com for $263. -- Charles Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 817-556-4720 From: Gregory T. Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:35:53 -0500 To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: motherboard suggestions Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:33:51 -0500 I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead one (i840 chipset) couldn't. It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest boards which might not support the old processors. Thanx!
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead one (i840 chipset) couldn't. one of those things i was going to look into put never got around to. whats the difference between SDRAM and ECC SDRAM?
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
On Fri, May 04, 2001, William Leese wrote: I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got fried. I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one. Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead one (i840 chipset) couldn't. one of those things i was going to look into put never got around to. whats the difference between SDRAM and ECC SDRAM? Hi, ECC (Error Correction Code) has an additional 9th bit for every 8 data bits to catch and correct certain errors (though I've heard it is designed more to catch the relatively rare stray bit flip errors, like from passing cosmic rays, than the nasty errors that result from dying memory, but I don't know the full story). So normal SDRAM is for example 32Mx64 (for 256Mb module), while ECC SDRAM is 32Mx72 (for same 256Mb with ECC capabilities). In many cases you can get ECC capabilities for maybe $8-10 more for a 256Mb module, in which case I think it's a good investment. Note, though, that I've heard Athlon doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully, others can add more. Hope this helps and take care, Daniel -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory
ECC (Error Correction Code) has an additional 9th bit for every 8 data bits to catch and correct certain errors... That's just parity. With only one extra bit you can detect single bit errors, but you can't correct them. Note, though, that I've heard Athlon doesn't play well with ECC,... That seems rather unlikely, since ECC is handled entirely in hardware in the memory subsystem. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI