Re: Motherboard suggestions? What about a ASUS DSEB-FG? (Intel 5400, Intel 6321 ESB, Marvell 6145, Z9S VGA)

2008-02-12 Thread Michael S. Peek

Hi guys,

One of the motherboards I'm considering is an ASUS DSEB-DG 
(http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1988l1=9l2=39l3=299l4=0).  
One of the things that gives me hope is that it comes with drivers for 
RedHat for the RAID controller.  For my purposes I don't care about the 
RAID abilities of this board, but I'm hoping that this will mean that 
the other devices will work with either the standard kernel that comes 
with Debian, or with a custom kernel without needing special patches.


Anyone know anything about linux on this board?

North Bridge: Intel 5400
South Bridge: Intel 6321ESB
SADA: Marvell 6145
Video: VGA XGI Z9s PCI Display Controller 32MB

Thanks for your help,

Michael


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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

2008-02-06 Thread Neil Watson

Tyan

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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

2008-02-06 Thread Jochen Schulz
Michael S. Peek:
 
 Can anyone suggest a motherboard w/ support for quad-core CPUs and  
 gigabit ethernet?  Video and sound don't matter (they'll be headless).   
 Multiple CPUs and multiple ethernet welcome.

I am running Debian AMD64 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P. It supports the
latest 45nm Core2Duo CPUs (dual and quad) and has gigabit ethernet from
Realtek. I needed the installer from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ for
SATA support (and for ethernet, I think), but otherwise it works
flawlessly. I didn't try installing from or to an IDE drive which might
be a problem, but I don't know.

The only quirk was that you have to use the module option
model=6stack-digout for snd-hda-intel in order to hear sound. There's no
graphic chip on the board so you'd have to get a separate one.

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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

2008-02-06 Thread Michael S. Peek

Neil Watson wrote:

Tyan



Any Tyan motherboard?
Are there any gotcha's that I would need to know about getting debian 
installed (special driver needs, kernel command line options, that sort 
of thing)?


I've found both duel- and quad-CPU boards by Tyan that look very nice...

Michael


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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

2008-02-06 Thread Michael S. Peek

Jochen Schulz wrote:

I am running Debian AMD64 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P.


Thanks, I'll check into that.  I don't really care about the sound, as 
it'll be a headless machine running in a server room.  CPU power and 
gigabit ethernet is what I really care about.


Michael


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Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory

2001-05-05 Thread Allan Wind
On 2001-05-04 15:21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Note, though, that I've heard Athlon
 doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will
 be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully,
 others can add more.

Asus K7V, Athlon @ 800 MHz w/ 256 MB ECC running just fine here (had
to flash upgrade BIOS to get ECC support though).


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Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory

2001-05-05 Thread freedman
On Sat, May 05, 2001, Allan Wind wrote:
 On 2001-05-04 15:21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Note, though, that I've heard Athlon
  doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will
  be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully,
  others can add more.
 
 Asus K7V, Athlon @ 800 MHz w/ 256 MB ECC running just fine here (had
 to flash upgrade BIOS to get ECC support though).
 
 
 /Allan

Allan,

Glad to hear it!  I'm going the Athlon route (hopefully dual) myself
soon, and want to get PC2100 ECC memory with it, so I'm glad to know
you've made it work.  My above comment was just a repetition of
something that I'd read on one of the hardware review sites;
hopefully, I made it sufficiently clear that I could have been wrong,
as it turned out I was.  Incidentally, what I really meant by my
comment was that I had read that certain chipsets that support Athlons
due not play well with ECC.  I wonder if this is still possibly true,
and your Asus is just an example of a better motherboard which uses a
more-competently engineered chipset.  Let's see... What are the main
chipsets that support Athlon?  AMD 760, Via kt133, Ali Magick (?or
something), Sis (something I think).  Anyone know if there is anything
behind what I remember reading with one of these chipsets?  Or maybe
I'm just completely mistaken...

Anyway, take care and thanks for sharing your Athlon success with me.

-Daniel


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Re: motherboard suggestions

2001-05-04 Thread Alvin Oga

hi Gregory...

i've been collecting urls for dual cpu motherboards...

http://www.linux-1u.net/1U_Features/dual.txt
( these are just the flip-chip cpu style )

since cpu and memory is so cheap now days... it might be 
good to replace the mb/cpu/mem just in case ???

have fun
alvin
http://www.Linux-1U.net ... 500Gb 1U Raid5 ...


On Thu, 3 May 2001, Gregory T. Norris wrote:

 I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got
 fried.  I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one.
 Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead
 one (i840 chipset) couldn't.
 
 It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest
 boards which might not support the old processors.
 
 Thanx!
 
 



Re: motherboard suggestions

2001-05-04 Thread Gregory T. Norris
I'll definitely take a look.  Thanx!

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:45:45PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
 
 hi Gregory...
 
 i've been collecting urls for dual cpu motherboards...
 
 http://www.linux-1u.net/1U_Features/dual.txt
 ( these are just the flip-chip cpu style )
 
 since cpu and memory is so cheap now days... it might be 
 good to replace the mb/cpu/mem just in case ???
 
 have fun
 alvin
 http://www.Linux-1U.net ... 500Gb 1U Raid5 ...


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Re: motherboard suggestions

2001-05-04 Thread freedman
On Thu, May 03, 2001, Gregory T. Norris wrote:
 I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got
 fried.  I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one.
 Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead
 one (i840 chipset) couldn't.
 
 It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest
 boards which might not support the old processors.
 
 Thanx!

Hi,

Depending upon how much you're looking to spend, you might want to
look into a Supermicro board with a Serverworks chipset.  A little on
the pricey side (~$500+), but that might be worth it for you.  I'm
personally waiting (still...) for the dual Athlons to come out
(promises, promises) which should give super bang for the buck
(depending upon final unknown cost of dual motherboard) with PC2100
memory ($115/256Mb from Crucial).

Hope this helps and take care,

Daniel

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Department of Physics
Cornell University



Re: motherboard suggestions

2001-05-04 Thread freedman
On Fri, May 04, 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 03, 2001, Gregory T. Norris wrote:
  I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got
  fried.  I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one.
  Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead
  one (i840 chipset) couldn't.
  
  It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest
  boards which might not support the old processors.
  
  Thanx!
 
 Hi,
 
 Depending upon how much you're looking to spend, you might want to
 look into a Supermicro board with a Serverworks chipset.  A little on
 the pricey side (~$500+), but that might be worth it for you.  I'm
 personally waiting (still...) for the dual Athlons to come out
 (promises, promises) which should give super bang for the buck
 (depending upon final unknown cost of dual motherboard) with PC2100
 memory ($115/256Mb from Crucial).

Answering my own post (or at least adding to it).  Just after posting,
I read on theregister
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/18750.html) that AMD will
supposedly be introducing the chipsets on this May 15 to support dual
Athlons.  The implication is that they will ship soon after.  Who
knows, though.  You should judge for yourself, I just thought you
might want to know.

Take care,

Daniel

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Re: motherboard suggestions

2001-05-04 Thread Charles Lewis
I would suggest looking at AnandTech (www.anandtech.com) or Tom's Hardware
Guide (www.tomshardware.com). Both are excellent resources with in depth
reviews by guys that REALLY understand hardware. In addition, anandtech had
some links to vendors with very respectable prices.

Using some reviews from anandtech, I just purchased a Iwill KK266
motherboard and an AMD Athlon 1GHz with 266MHz front side bus from
newegg.com for $263.

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 From: Gregory T. Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:35:53 -0500
 To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: motherboard suggestions
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:33:51 -0500
 
 I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got
 fried.  I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one.
 Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead
 one (i840 chipset) couldn't.
 
 It's not yet clear if either CPU survived, so feel free to suggest
 boards which might not support the old processors.
 
 Thanx!
 
 



Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory

2001-05-04 Thread William Leese
 I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got
 fried.  I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one.
 Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead
 one (i840 chipset) couldn't.

one of those things i was going to look into put never got around to. whats 
the difference between SDRAM and ECC SDRAM?



Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory

2001-05-04 Thread freedman
On Fri, May 04, 2001, William Leese wrote:
  I need to replace a dual PIII-600MHz motherboard, which apparently got
  fried.  I'd appreciate any suggestions for a good, Linux friendly one.
  Preferably something which can make use of ECC memory, which the dead
  one (i840 chipset) couldn't.
 
 one of those things i was going to look into put never got around to. whats 
 the difference between SDRAM and ECC SDRAM?
 

Hi,

ECC (Error Correction Code) has an additional 9th bit for every 8 data
bits to catch and correct certain errors (though I've heard it is
designed more to catch the relatively rare stray bit flip errors, like
from passing cosmic rays, than the nasty errors that result from dying
memory, but I don't know the full story).  So normal SDRAM is for
example 32Mx64 (for 256Mb module), while ECC SDRAM is 32Mx72 (for same
256Mb with ECC capabilities).  In many cases you can get ECC
capabilities for maybe $8-10 more for a 256Mb module, in which case I
think it's a good investment.  Note, though, that I've heard Athlon
doesn't play well with ECC, though it remains to be seen if this will
be improved for the Dual Athlons (as it should be); again, hopefully,
others can add more.

Hope this helps and take care,

Daniel



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Re: motherboard suggestions OT: ECC memory

2001-05-04 Thread John Hasler
 ECC (Error Correction Code) has an additional 9th bit for every 8 data
 bits to catch and correct certain errors...

That's just parity.  With only one extra bit you can detect single bit
errors, but you can't correct them.

 Note, though, that I've heard Athlon doesn't play well with ECC,...

That seems rather unlikely, since ECC is handled entirely in hardware in
the memory subsystem.
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