Re: smart package manager

2006-06-07 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:30:34 -0400, Stephen wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:20:43PM -0600 or thereabouts, Joseph Smidt wrote:
>> There is talk about the smart package manager.  It claims it will handle
>> package managing better than APT.  Is this true or propaganda?  If it is
>> true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART?  Could it be a
>> potential etch +1 goal?  Just wondering.
>
>Are you referring to Aptitude ? It's available either in a curses
>display (I think it's curses) or from the command line.

No, he's referring to smart:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Package_Manager

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Re: smart package manager

2006-06-07 Thread Linas Žvirblis
>> There is talk about the smart package manager.  It claims it will handle
>> package managing better than APT.  Is this true or propaganda?  If it is
>> true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART?  Could it be a
>> potential etch +1 goal?  Just wondering.
> 
> Are you referring to Aptitude ? It's available either in a curses
> display (I think it's curses) or from the command line.

He is probably referring to "smartpm" package:

  The Smart Package Manager project has the ambitious
  objective of creating smart and portable algorithms for
  solving adequately the problem of managing software
  upgrading and installation. This tool works in all major
  distributions (APT, APT-RPM, YUM, URPMI, etc).

  This project is in beta testing. Please, understand that
  bugs are expected to be found at that stage, and there
  are features that still must be implemented in the
  forthcoming future.

It is an interesting project, but I doubt that APT will go away anytime
soon. You do not just go and replace essential parts of the operating
system with some half tested beta software. Maybe one day, but probably
not in Etch+1.


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Re: smart package manager

2006-06-07 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:20:43PM -0600 or thereabouts, Joseph Smidt wrote:
> There is talk about the smart package manager.  It claims it will handle
> package managing better than APT.  Is this true or propaganda?  If it is
> true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART?  Could it be a
> potential etch +1 goal?  Just wondering.

Are you referring to Aptitude ? It's available either in a curses
display (I think it's curses) or from the command line.

I consider it better than apt-get, but that's _my_ opinion.

If you search Google with the query 'apt-get vs aptitude' you'll get
some opinions, along with educated opinions. I like this one:

"Aptitude is said to deal with dependencies better than apt-get.
For example, say you install a package which automatically
installs some library packages because it depends on them. When
you remove this package with apt-get, it won't remove the
libraries this package installed, although they aren't used
anymore.

When you install that package with aptitude and remove it with
aptitude, aptitude 'detects' that those library packages aren't
used anymore and will therefore automatically remove them."

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