Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-25 Thread bigl
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Is this still Debian related?
 
 Erick 
 

As far as I read this list about 70-80% of messages are off-topic but 
there is no sharp edge between normal unix questions (or specialy about one 
package) and Debian questions. I've found on this list many 
interesting things not about creating .deb packages or something like 
this but about something really different (thanks to all of you :-) ). 
So i think that any censorship should be used very careful. 


Leszek Gerwatowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-25 Thread Billy Chow
 bigl == bigl  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

bigl On Wed, 25 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is this still Debian related?
 
 Erick
 

bigl As far as I read this list about 70-80% of messages are
bigl off-topic but there is no sharp edge between normal unix
bigl questions (or specialy about one package) and Debian
bigl questions. I've found on this list many interesting things not
bigl about creating .deb packages or something like this but about
bigl something really different (thanks to all of you :-) ).  So i
bigl think that any censorship should be used very careful.

Especially when the previous posts were about the shortcomings of the
Debian LaTeX system and merits of a LaTeX distribution that is a
potential debian package.  Such a debian package will be welcomed by
many (including myself).

--
Billy C.-M. Chow  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Debian Linux


Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-25 Thread branderh
   Is this still Debian related?

 bigl think that any censorship should be used very careful.
 
 Especially when the previous posts were about the shortcomings of the
 Debian LaTeX system and merits of a LaTeX distribution that is a
 potential debian package.  Such a debian package will be welcomed by
 many (including myself).

I publicly apologise for questiong whether the discussed subject was
Debian related. Please accept my apologies, I'll post more carefull in
the future.  After this explaination I understand that the matter being
discussed is in fact very Debian related.

Erick




Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-25 Thread bigl
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is this still Debian related?
 
  bigl think that any censorship should be used very careful.
  
  Especially when the previous posts were about the shortcomings of the
  Debian LaTeX system and merits of a LaTeX distribution that is a
  potential debian package.  Such a debian package will be welcomed by
  many (including myself).
 
 I publicly apologise for questiong whether the discussed subject was
 Debian related. Please accept my apologies, I'll post more carefull in
 the future.  After this explaination I understand that the matter being
 discussed is in fact very Debian related.
 
 Erick

Don't be so serious and sad Erick - this is normal on mail-lists :-)

As a clearing - maybe such messages shoul be on debian-devel not on 
debian-user, but again -- the edge is not so sharp :-))

Leszek Gerwatowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-24 Thread Winfried Truemper
Paul Seelig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Updating of the ls-lR database should only be allowed to root anyway and
: not to other users of the system as well! So i don't see the point in
: this!

The last time I used teTeX it was necessary to allow ordinary users to
re-build the database so new pk-files were found.


-Winfried



Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-22 Thread Mark Phillips
Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd prefer it to be included with Debian in any case

I second that.  I'm using tetex at my debian system without problems.


Does anyone know how teTeX compares with NTeX?  NTeX is what I have
been using.

How easy would it be to debianize teTeX?

Mark Phillips.  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-22 Thread Paul Seelig
On 21 Sep 1996, Winfried Truemper wrote:

 And if several users try to update the ls-lR database, it gets (got) messed
 up resulting in a not-working TeX/LaTeX (we had that several times and
 therefore stucked with debian-TeX).

Updating of the ls-lR database should only be allowed to root anyway and
not to other users of the system as well! So i don't see the point in
this!
 Paul *8^)
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Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-21 Thread Nils Naumann
Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd prefer it to be included with Debian in any case

I second that.  I'm using tetex at my debian system without problems.

They are only some quirks with dependency conflicts if I install new
packages. But they will went away if the tetex package is debianized.

Nils




Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-21 Thread branderh
 I installed Debian for the first time two weeks ago and didn't even bother
 to install the Debian LaTeX system because i already knew teTeX from
 another platform and installed this instantly in the /usr/local/*
 hierarchie. To my mind teTeX is the most up to date and most easy to
 install and maintain LaTeX system because of it's well thought out design.
 I'd prefer it to be included with Debian in any case

You seem to have experience with it, please try to package it.

Erick



Re: teTeX (was Re: dvips top margin)

1996-09-21 Thread Winfried Truemper
Paul Seelig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: hierarchie. To my mind teTeX is the most up to date and most easy to
: install and maintain LaTeX system because of it's well thought out design.

I did not look into the new 0.4-release, but there was no
upgrade-mechianism in the past.
And if several users try to update the ls-lR database, it gets (got) messed
up resulting in a not-working TeX/LaTeX (we had that several times and
therefore stucked with debian-TeX).

Beside that, teTeX is really nice!

It would be a nice thing to have a teTeX-dummy package that
satisfies all dependencies for dpkg if teTeX is installed. 
Re-packaging teTeX would be much work.

-Winfried