Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 06:40:56PM +, Manon Metten wrote:
 
 I'll give it a try. If it doesn't work, I can always reinstall
 gnome-desktop-environment (I guess).

aptitude might want to remove all (most?) gnome packages. Before you 
apply the changes (g) just go through the list and mark manually 
installed (m) those packages you want to keep.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/25/07 11:45, Manon Metten wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As I never play games, I've removed most of them with aptitude. But some I
 just can't remove: aptitude can't find them. I guess they are part of
 gnome-games (games like: nibbles, robots, ataxx etc.) or something.
 However,
 when I tried to remove gnome-games, aptitude warned me that gnome
 depends on
 gnome games and will be broken. I also never use gnome; i stick with kde.
 
 Can I safely remove gnome-games, without messing up my system?
 Running Etch: Linux debian 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Wed May 9 22:23:40 UTC 2007 i686
 GNU/Linux

When you say gnome, do you mean the package named gnome?

If so, you should be all right.  Unless aptitude does something stupid.

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Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Manon Metten

Hi,

As I never play games, I've removed most of them with aptitude. But some I
just can't remove: aptitude can't find them. I guess they are part of
gnome-games (games like: nibbles, robots, ataxx etc.) or something. However,
when I tried to remove gnome-games, aptitude warned me that gnome depends on
gnome games and will be broken. I also never use gnome; i stick with kde.

Can I safely remove gnome-games, without messing up my system?
Running Etch: Linux debian 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Wed May 9 22:23:40 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux

Greetings, Manon.


Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Manon Metten

Hi Ron,

On 5/25/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When you say gnome, do you mean the package named gnome?


If so, you should be all right.  Unless aptitude does something stupid.



Sorry for my inaccurate description.


Here's aptitude's warning:

gnome-games will be removed.

The following packages depend on gnome-games and will be  broken  by its
removal:

*gnome-desktop-environment depends on gnome-games (= 1:2.14.3)


What happens when gnome-desktop-environment will be broken. I never use it
anyway. But IIRC I've read that some kde apps use some gnome stuff. So I
don't know if I can safely remove gnome-games.

I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't know
what part or apps of kde will be broken then.

Thanks, Manon.


Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Joe Hart
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Manon Metten wrote:
 Hi Ron,
 
 On 5/25/07, *Ron Johnson* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 When you say gnome, do you mean the package named gnome?
 
 If so, you should be all right.  Unless aptitude does something stupid.
 
 
 Sorry for my inaccurate description.
 
 
 Here's aptitude's warning:
 
 gnome-games will be removed.
 
 The following packages depend on gnome-games and will be  broken  by its
 removal:
 
 *gnome-desktop-environment depends on gnome-games (= 1: 2.14.3)
 
 
 What happens when gnome-desktop-environment will be broken. I never use
 it anyway. But IIRC I've read that some kde apps use some gnome stuff.
 So I don't know if I can safely remove gnome-games.
 
 I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't
 know what part or apps of kde will be broken then.
 
 Thanks, Manon.
 

Please don't use html mail

The above mentioned packages are both meta-packages, so removing them
will not actually remove any packages on your system.  Meta-packages are
just dummy packages with a list of dependencies to make fetching (or
updating) a bunch of packages easier.

Joe
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Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Mumia W..

On 05/25/2007 12:14 PM, Manon Metten wrote:

[...]
I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't know
what part or apps of kde will be broken then.

Thanks, Manon.



Hi Manon.

You probably can remove gnome-desktop-environment safely using aptitude. 
Those individual Gnome programs that KDE depends upon will remain while 
most of the others will be removed.





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Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Manon Metten

Hi Mumia,


On 5/25/07, Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I don't
know
 what part or apps of kde will be broken then.




You probably can remove gnome-desktop-environment safely using aptitude.

Those individual Gnome programs that KDE depends upon will remain while
most of the others will be removed.




I'll give it a try. If it doesn't work, I can always reinstall
gnome-desktop-environment (I guess).

Thank you all.


Re: Remove gnome-games

2007-05-25 Thread Mark Grieveson
 What happens when gnome-desktop-environment will be broken. I never
 use it anyway. But IIRC I've read that some kde apps use some gnome
 stuff. So I don't know if I can safely remove gnome-games.

 I rather have gnome-desktop-environment removed completely, but I
 don't know what part or apps of kde will be broken then.

I've switched between gnome, kde, and xfce without difficulty.  If
you've been using aptitude consistently, it should not be a problem.
I would just go for it, and then if certain kde apps are also removed,
simply reinstall them (I doubt this would happen, though.)

If you've been mostly using kde, but relying on certain gnome
applications (IE, totem), this would be your chance to change them to
KDE applications to make your  system more purely KDE (IE, from totem
to kaffeine, from synaptic to adept, from gdm to kdm, etc).  KDE uses
qt based applications, whereas gnome uses gtk based applications.  

In summary, KDE does not rely on gnome-desktop-environment; so, just go
for it.

Good luck,

Mark 


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