Re: SV: SV: A little further: Short newbie question

1999-06-09 Thread David Wright
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I don't have an isp for the computer (silly, I know), and I have already
> installed the base system, which seems to be in fine working order. What I
> did was to swap the hd into a WinNT box (on my LAN w/ 100Mbit connection at
> work) and download the lot to that, but I somehow managed to loose the
> directories along the way. I'll try doing another download and remember to
> reformat the dos-partition to vfat to allow long names.
> Thanks again for all the help; I'm slowly beginning to understand...
> Regards
> Vitux

OK it's nice to have dselect (some would say) install your packages,
but if you've got all the .deb files on a hard disk, dpkg will install
them from there whatever their filenames and whatever their directories.

The only difficulty is knowing what to install and when, but dpkg
will check dependencies and make sure it doesn't break anything.
So for example, if everything is in one directory, the brutal approach
is to type
dpkg -i *deb
and let it get on with it. Some debs will unpack but won't configure
because other packages aren't yet configured, so then type
dpkg --configure --pending
and that will configure those.
There's no harm in repeating those two commands; there'll just be a lot
of repetition of unpacking etc. but obviously more dependencies will
be satisfied.

If you don't want to be quite that brutal, I could send you a list of
dselect's first default choice of package's: the one it uses if you
skip the "package selection" step. Then you just type
dpkg -i foo.deb bar.deb etc. etc.
or you can push the list through dpkg --set-selections

Cheers,

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Re: SV: SV: A little further: Short newbie question

1999-06-09 Thread Kent West
> 
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra:  Kent West [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt:8. juni 1999 23:32
> > Til:  Wichmann, Viggo
> > Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Emne: Re: SV: A little further: Short newbie question
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks a tremendous lot for all the help. It really helps keeping my
> > spirit
> > > up as a newbie.
> > > I managed to mount the dos partition allright, but it seems like dselect
> > > wants an exact copy of the ftp-site, which is a problem since I can't
> > make
> > > the directory "binary-i386" with only 8 characters allowed in dos.
> > > Seems like I'm gonna have to borrow a cd-drive off of somebody and try
> > to do
> > > the installation from there, alternatively (re)install the winbastard in
> > the
> > > dos-partition to be able to use longer names. Damn.
> > > Anyone got any brilliant ideas for a (masochist?!) newbie?!
> > > Regards
> > > Vitux
> > >
> > > Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer...
> >
> > You can download the base install to floppies (7 or 10 or so) and install
> > the base.
> > That will get you a minimal system that is capable of dialing into your
> > ISP, at which
> > time you can configure dselect to use ftp or the apt method. Then whenever
> > you
> > install a package you'll get the most recent stable release (or unstable
> > if you so
> > specify) by downloading at install time. On a slow dial-up link, it takes
> > some time,
> > but it sure is easy. Be aware that if you want to re-use the downloaded
> > files, you
> > may have to do some finagling, because I believe the apt method
> > automatically deletes
> > the deb files after they've been installed.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I don't have an isp for the computer (silly, I know), and I have already
> installed the base system, which seems to be in fine working order. What I
> did was to swap the hd into a WinNT box (on my LAN w/ 100Mbit connection at
> work) and download the lot to that, but I somehow managed to loose the
> directories along the way. I'll try doing another download and remember to
> reformat the dos-partition to vfat to allow long names.
> Thanks again for all the help; I'm slowly beginning to understand...
> Regards
> Vitux
> 
> Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer

Oh, on a LAN; even better. I can't give you specifics, especially after
you've installed the base install, because I've always done it during
the base install, but the base install (have I said "base install"
enough yet?) will allow you to configure your NIC and get your Linux box
on the network. Then you can install rather quickly over the net. Of
course, you can also do what you've proposed above.


SV: SV: A little further: Short newbie question

1999-06-08 Thread vw
I don't have an isp for the computer (silly, I know), and I have already
installed the base system, which seems to be in fine working order. What I
did was to swap the hd into a WinNT box (on my LAN w/ 100Mbit connection at
work) and download the lot to that, but I somehow managed to loose the
directories along the way. I'll try doing another download and remember to
reformat the dos-partition to vfat to allow long names.
Thanks again for all the help; I'm slowly beginning to understand...
Regards
Vitux


Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer

> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra:  Kent West [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt:8. juni 1999 23:32
> Til:  Wichmann, Viggo
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Emne: Re: SV: A little further: Short newbie question
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Thanks a tremendous lot for all the help. It really helps keeping my
> spirit
> > up as a newbie.
> > I managed to mount the dos partition allright, but it seems like dselect
> > wants an exact copy of the ftp-site, which is a problem since I can't
> make
> > the directory "binary-i386" with only 8 characters allowed in dos.
> > Seems like I'm gonna have to borrow a cd-drive off of somebody and try
> to do
> > the installation from there, alternatively (re)install the winbastard in
> the
> > dos-partition to be able to use longer names. Damn.
> > Anyone got any brilliant ideas for a (masochist?!) newbie?!
> > Regards
> > Vitux
> >
> > Error is human; complete disaster takes a computer...
> 
> You can download the base install to floppies (7 or 10 or so) and install
> the base.
> That will get you a minimal system that is capable of dialing into your
> ISP, at which
> time you can configure dselect to use ftp or the apt method. Then whenever
> you
> install a package you'll get the most recent stable release (or unstable
> if you so
> specify) by downloading at install time. On a slow dial-up link, it takes
> some time,
> but it sure is easy. Be aware that if you want to re-use the downloaded
> files, you
> may have to do some finagling, because I believe the apt method
> automatically deletes
> the deb files after they've been installed.
> 
> 
>