Networking 3 simple questions
Guys, I guess these three questions are simple for those who are familiar with Debian. I would really appreciate some help on these matters. 1) How can I know which IP Address I have been assigned if debian is configured as DHCP? Something like ipconfig on the Windows world. 2) If I configured my machine as DHCP while installing it, how can I change it to use an specific IP Address? 3) The opposite, if I have the machine configured with an specific IP Address, how can I change it to use DHCP? Thanks in advance for all your help. -Marvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Networking 3 simple questions
Marvin Aguero wrote: Guys, I guess these three questions are simple for those who are familiar with Debian. I would really appreciate some help on these matters. 1) How can I know which IP Address I have been assigned if debian is configured as DHCP? Something like ipconfig on the Windows world. As root, ifconfig 2) If I configured my machine as DHCP while installing it, how can I change it to use an specific IP Address? Edit /etc/network/interfaces For DHCP: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp For static (change adresses and netmasks as appropriate): iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.1 There are probably automated tools that will do this as well, but I find it easier to just edit the file. 3) The opposite, if I have the machine configured with an specific IP Address, how can I change it to use DHCP? See #2. Thanks in advance for all your help. -Marvin -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Networking 3 simple questions
On 06/06/04 18:00, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Marvin Aguero wrote: Guys, I guess these three questions are simple for those who are familiar with Debian. I would really appreciate some help on these matters. 1) How can I know which IP Address I have been assigned if debian is configured as DHCP? Something like ipconfig on the Windows world. As root, ifconfig As user: $ /sbin/ifconfig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Networking 3 simple questions
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Marvin Aguero wrote: 1) How can I know which IP Address I have been assigned if debian is configured as DHCP? Something like ipconfig on the Windows world. As root, ifconfig You don't have to be root to view the settings, though you will probably have to specify the full path, like this: /sbin/ifconfig This is because /sbin is not in a non-root user's path by default. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Networking 3 simple questions
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:20:43 -0400 Ralph Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/06/04 18:00, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Marvin Aguero wrote: Guys, I guess these three questions are simple for those who are familiar with Debian. I would really appreciate some help on these matters. 1) How can I know which IP Address I have been assigned if debian is configured as DHCP? Something like ipconfig on the Windows world. As root, ifconfig As user: $ /sbin/ifconfig Thanks for the tips. How do I convert a server which has a static IP, to become a DHCP server? I know I need the DHCP server installed, but is there more than that? -- Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgpGNZFRjweVc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Networking 3 simple questions
On June 7, 2004 12:17 am, Rodney D. Myers wrote: How do I convert a server which has a static IP, to become a DHCP server? I know I need the DHCP server installed, but is there more than that? My router, which runs woody, has these lines in: etc/network/interfaces: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp Of course, eth1 in my case is interface connected live and getting public IP. Also, I believe that any static info would be in this file as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Networking 3 simple questions
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:36:03 -0300 James LeClair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On June 7, 2004 12:17 am, Rodney D. Myers wrote: How do I convert a server which has a static IP, to become a DHCP server? I know I need the DHCP server installed, but is there more than that? My router, which runs woody, has these lines in: etc/network/interfaces: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp Of course, eth1 in my case is interface connected live and getting public IP. Also, I believe that any static info would be in this file as well. Thanks.. With ab old machine, I may have to start trying to get DHCP running on it -- Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgprXYIbSBjA0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: simple questions
Le 2002.02.02 19:08, Alexey a écrit : command args /dev/null 21 man bash and see about redirection. :) It's me again. OK... $ /mount -a mount: /dev/hdc3 already mounted or /mnt/deb busy MSDOS FS: Using codepage 866 MSDOS FS: IO charset koi8-r $ /mount -a /dev/null the same $ mount -a /dev/null 21 the first (error) message disappears, but both MSDOS FS: do not. I can redirect them nowhere :( ? I have 3 FAT partitions, so I don't like to read these annoying strings during the bootup process. This is kernel messages. You can't hide them on a console. Romuald.
simple questions
1. How can I make a program produce no output on the shell screen if it has no special quiet behavior option and /dev/null doesn't help? (the messages are not errors- or warnings-like). 2. sh: which: command not found sh: zsoelim: command not found sh: geqn: command not found sh: gtbl: command not found How can they be found? (I mean package, URL or anything else.)
Re: simple questions
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 14:45, Alexey wrote: 1. How can I make a program produce no output on the shell screen if it has no special quiet behavior option and /dev/null doesn't help? (the messages are not errors- or warnings-like). Did you still try 2 /dev/null ? Maybe they aren't errors or warnings but still directed to sterr 2. sh: which: command not found sonic:/usr# dpkg -S /usr/bin/which debianutils: /usr/bin/which sonic:/usr# sh: zsoelim: command not found http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=zsoelimsearchmode=searchfilescase=insensitiveversion=stablearch=i386 sh: geqn: command not found sh: gtbl: command not found How can they be found? (I mean package, URL or anything else.) http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages at the bottom of the page -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
Re: simple questions
On 02 Feb 2002 15:26:08 +0100 Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 14:45, Alexey wrote: 1. How can I make a program produce no output on the shell screen if it has no special quiet behavior option and /dev/null doesn't help? (the messages are not errors- or warnings-like). Did you still try 2 /dev/null ? Maybe they aren't errors or warnings but still directed to sterr A bashism! How about this: (cdrecord /dev/null) /dev/null -- Humanity's future is in the stars: support a manned mission to Mars! http://www.thinkmars.net/petition/addpetition.html
Re: simple questions
command args /dev/null 21 man bash and see about redirection. :) It's me again. OK... $ /mount -a mount: /dev/hdc3 already mounted or /mnt/deb busy MSDOS FS: Using codepage 866 MSDOS FS: IO charset koi8-r $ /mount -a /dev/null the same $ mount -a /dev/null 21 the first (error) message disappears, but both MSDOS FS: do not. I can redirect them nowhere :( ? I have 3 FAT partitions, so I don't like to read these annoying strings during the bootup process. Alexey. P.S. Thanks a lot for help in missing files searching.
Re: simple questions
A bashism! How about this: (cdrecord /dev/null) /dev/null $ (mount -a /dev/null) /dev/null Nope. It talks.
Re: debian newbie : 2 simple questions
On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:26:41PM +0100, Pietro Cagnoni wrote: 1) what is the minimal package install to send emails from the shell ?? (mailx, zmailer-ssl ?) imperative is : SMTP daemon on port 25 must NOT be running. install mailx + exim, then comment out the smtp line in /etc/inetd.conf, then killall -HUP inetd . It is necessary also to do something about the script /etc/init.d/exim, that is started when the system boots. This script checks to see whether exim is started by inetd. If exim is not started by inetd, then exim is started by this script. Result : exim is still listening on port 25. The following should do all that is necessary : /usr/sbin/update-inetd --disable smtp ...takes care of inet.conf update-rc.d -f exim remove ...takes care of /etc/init.d/exim I suppose you will need to kill exim if it was started by /etc/init.d/exim. netstat -at | grep smtp...see if all is well t:irvine -- Whoever thinks a faultless piece to see, Thinks what ne'er was, nor is, nor ne'er shall be. Alexander Pope, An Essay On Criticism.
debian newbie : 2 simple questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi all ! 2 newb questions : 1) what is the minimal package install to send emails from the shell ?? (mailx, zmailer-ssl ?) imperative is : SMTP daemon on port 25 must NOT be running. 2) how to verify if an ETH interface is really in full duplex mode and/or how to change it. thank you 4 any help. José PGP Public Key Fingerprint: AE11 845C 9565 91FB B431 4C47 57CC 30E5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPFae+lfMMOUSoI2SEQIauwCaAmZEO+xYyewmb8nHoSoLEFb05zIAn3oF fo0Fw2xmTlSyOzrjztL98BaL =Deo2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: debian newbie : 2 simple questions
1) what is the minimal package install to send emails from the shell ?? (mailx, zmailer-ssl ?) imperative is : SMTP daemon on port 25 must NOT be running. install mailx + exim, then comment out the smtp line in /etc/inetd.conf, then killall -HUP inetd . ask for more informations if you need! pietro.
Re: Simple Questions
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 11:05:19PM -0800, Leonard Leblanc wrote: yup the script is executable and works I went into the /etc/cron.daily directory and ran it from the command line via ./webalizer In that script, are you trying to run some program that exists somewhere else than /bin or /usr/bin? PATH in cronjobs is set to some default which does not include ~user/bin for example, maybe not even /usr/local/bin. If you wish to use programs in such directories, use absolute paths or set PATH manually in the beginning of the script. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgpEOrf8JMQ0o.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2 simple questions
Hi Brad, Looks like you just need/want to edit the Message Of The Day (/etc/motd) file. Don't run gnome here - sri. On Friday 16 February 2001 06:54, Brad Cramer wrote: I am not really new to linux (used Redhat for 3 years) but I am a recent Debian convert and I have a coulpe of simple questions. I am running Debian Woody and everything is up to date but I want to know how to change the type of system or version of Debian that shows up on a console login screen. Right now it says testing/unstable I looked at /etc/debian_version and it said the same thing there and I changed it to Woody but that didn't make any difference, any ideas? The other question may be a little more complicated. I am using gdm to login and I normaly run Enlightenment but I wanted to try out Gnome but when I selecect it from the gdm menu it starts gnome and kde together. I have replaced the /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome script with one that just has exec /usr/bin/gnome-session but that didn't help, if I start kde it works fine and it is a script that just has exec /usr/bin/startkde, any ideas on this one? Thanks Brad Cramer -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: 2 simple questions
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 10:54:48AM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Hi Brad, Looks like you just need/want to edit the Message Of The Day (/etc/motd) file. actually sounds more like /etc/issue /etc/motd does not have any reference to stable/unstable that i can see. Don't run gnome here - sri. On Friday 16 February 2001 06:54, Brad Cramer wrote: I am not really new to linux (used Redhat for 3 years) but I am a recent Debian convert and I have a coulpe of simple questions. I am running Debian Woody and everything is up to date but I want to know how to change the type of system or version of Debian that shows up on a console login screen. Right now it says testing/unstable I looked at /etc/debian_version and it said the same thing there and I changed it to Woody but that didn't make any difference, any ideas? The other question may be a little more complicated. I am using gdm to login and I normaly run Enlightenment but I wanted to try out Gnome but when I selecect it from the gdm menu it starts gnome and kde together. I have replaced the /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome script with one that just has exec /usr/bin/gnome-session but that didn't help, if I start kde it works fine and it is a script that just has exec /usr/bin/startkde, any ideas on this one? Thanks Brad Cramer -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpCE1aYJleUP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Simple Questions
Hey All, I have just a quick (and probably stupid) question. I was under the impression that you could just place scripts in the cron.daily, cron.monthly, and cron.weekly directories and that those scripts would be run. Now either there is an error in my script or I'm not doing something right. Can someone give me a procedure for adding a job to the cron schedule...? Thanks in advance. Leonard Leblanc, Webmaster / Intranet Administrator Emerge Knowledge Design www.emergeknowledge.com
Re: Simple Questions
To quote Leonard Leblanc [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hey All, # # I have just a quick (and probably stupid) question. I was under the # impression that you could just place scripts in the cron.daily, # cron.monthly, and cron.weekly directories and that those scripts would be # run. Now either there is an error in my script or I'm not doing something # right. Can someone give me a procedure for adding a job to the cron # schedule...? You are correct there... A couple of things to look for: Is the script executable? 'chmod +x script' Does the script have #!/bin/sh or whatever language the script is written in for the first line? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Simple Questions
# Hey All, # # I have just a quick (and probably stupid) question. I was under the # impression that you could just place scripts in the cron.daily, # cron.monthly, and cron.weekly directories and that those scripts would be # run. Now either there is an error in my script or I'm not doing something # right. Can someone give me a procedure for adding a job to the cron # schedule...? You are correct there... A couple of things to look for: Is the script executable? 'chmod +x script' Does the script have #!/bin/sh or whatever language the script is written in for the first line? yup the script is executable and works I went into the /etc/cron.daily directory and ran it from the command line via ./webalizer Leonard Leblanc, Webmaster / Intranet Administrator Emerge Knowledge Design www.emergeknowledge.com
2 simple questions
I am not really new to linux (used Redhat for 3 years) but I am a recent Debian convert and I have a coulpe of simple questions. I am running Debian Woody and everything is up to date but I want to know how to change the type of system or version of Debian that shows up on a console login screen. Right now it says testing/unstable I looked at /etc/debian_version and it said the same thing there and I changed it to Woody but that didn't make any difference, any ideas? The other question may be a little more complicated. I am using gdm to login and I normaly run Enlightenment but I wanted to try out Gnome but when I selecect it from the gdm menu it starts gnome and kde together. I have replaced the /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome script with one that just has exec /usr/bin/gnome-session but that didn't help, if I start kde it works fine and it is a script that just has exec /usr/bin/startkde, any ideas on this one? Thanks Brad Cramer
Re: 2 simple questions
Brad Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: other question may be a little more complicated. I am using gdm to login and I normaly run Enlightenment but I wanted to try out Gnome but when I selecect it from the gdm menu it starts gnome and kde together. I have replaced the /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome script with one that just has exec /usr/bin/gnome-session but that didn't help, if I start kde it works fine and it is a script that just has exec /usr/bin/startkde, any ideas on this one? Enlightenment is a window manager that runs on top of gnome. Gnome does not have its own window manager. KDE on the other hand is both the desktop environment and the window manager. So you can't really run gnome without a window manager. You need enlightenment or sawfish or some wm. I am not sure what you mean when you say kde and gnome start together. I don't see how this is possible. I think gnome and kde have support modes for each other, but you wouldn't, say, get both the gnome panel and the kde panel. HTH, Anthony
Re: 2 simple questions
To change the login prompt message, you can edit the file /etc/issue. You will probably have to restart the login on each console for the change to take effect. For example you could log in, and then log out, and you will see the new message. Tom Brad Cramer wrote: I am not really new to linux (used Redhat for 3 years) but I am a recent Debian convert and I have a coulpe of simple questions. I am running Debian Woody and everything is up to date but I want to know how to change the type of system or version of Debian that shows up on a console login screen. Right now it says testing/unstable I looked at /etc/debian_version and it said the same thing there and I changed it to Woody but that didn't make any difference, any ideas? The other question may be a little more complicated. I am using gdm to login and I normaly run Enlightenment but I wanted to try out Gnome but when I selecect it from the gdm menu it starts gnome and kde together. I have replaced the /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome script with one that just has exec /usr/bin/gnome-session but that didn't help, if I start kde it works fine and it is a script that just has exec /usr/bin/startkde, any ideas on this one? Thanks Brad Cramer
Re: 2 simple questions
Thanks that ddid the trick - Original Message - From: Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-users debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:28 PM Subject: Re: 2 simple questions To change the login prompt message, you can edit the file /etc/issue. You will probably have to restart the login on each console for the change to take effect. For example you could log in, and then log out, and you will see the new message. Tom Brad Cramer wrote: I am not really new to linux (used Redhat for 3 years) but I am a recent Debian convert and I have a coulpe of simple questions. I am running Debian Woody and everything is up to date but I want to know how to change the type of system or version of Debian that shows up on a console login screen. Right now it says testing/unstable I looked at /etc/debian_version and it said the same thing there and I changed it to Woody but that didn't make any difference, any ideas? The other question may be a little more complicated. I am using gdm to login and I normaly run Enlightenment but I wanted to try out Gnome but when I selecect it from the gdm menu it starts gnome and kde together. I have replaced the /etc/gdm/Sessions/Gnome script with one that just has exec /usr/bin/gnome-session but that didn't help, if I start kde it works fine and it is a script that just has exec /usr/bin/startkde, any ideas on this one? Thanks Brad Cramer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A few (simple) questions
Hi there, I installed a few new things to my Debian installation got most of the stuff working, but there are still some problems. I think those are very easy to solve, but I don't have any idea how. 1.) I managed to get sound (ALSA with via82...) but only as root. If ie. mpg123 ist started as user it says Can't open /dev/dsp! but /dev/dsp has rwx permissions set for user and group. 2.) I got my graphics card working. (Elsa Gladiac with NVIDIA GeForce2 chip) To do so I had to install X11R6 version 4. Now the problem: I want to use lyx. lyx depends on libforms0.89 libforms0.89 depends on xpm4g xpm4g conflicts with xlibs Great little vicious circle. 3.) Look at my E-Mail address - really screwed. I want to use my university address but can't use my universities server because of a anti-spam script they use. So I have to send mail through my stupid provider which overwrites the address as you can see above. That's that you now. Thanks if you read so far. More thanks if you can help me. Nikolai. Enlightenment really rules!!! -- +-+ | Escape the | | Gates of hell. | | | http://www.debian.org | Use Linux. | +-+
Re: A few (simple) questions
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi there, I installed a few new things to my Debian installation got most of the stuff working, but there are still some problems. I think those are very easy to solve, but I don't have any idea how. 1.) I managed to get sound (ALSA with via82...) but only as root. If ie. mpg123 ist started as user it says Can't open /dev/dsp! but /dev/dsp has rwx permissions set for user and group. You need to add the user to the audio group. As root do: adduser keiichi audio The user can now acces /dev/dsp (he may need to logout and login before). Bye -- DEFRESNE Sylvain
New to Debian -- simple questions
Okay, I recently switched to Debian after using RedHat and Mandrake-Linux for 2-3 years... Right off the bat, there are two things I'd like to change. 1) Get rid of the login message that displays at the console after typing in my name and password. I read through /etc/login.defs and there was a reference to a file that I thought this message was coming from, but the file didn't exist. 2) When I logout, I want the screen to clear so that the login prompt is at the top (and it gets rid of any old text that now gets left onscreen). I seem to recall on the Sparcs we used to use that there was a .$SHELL_logout file. H, I just checked a RedHat machine here at work and see a .bash_logout file ;-) It's (2) lines, and the second line is clear. I think I can take care of # 2 myself ! Thanks in advance... more questions likely to come along soon ! Regards Hall Stevenson
Re. : New to Debian -- simple questions
See the /etc/motd textfile and change it to whatever you want (or delete it). You may also check your rc files. On my system (debian woody distro), there is a /etc/rc.S/S55bootmisc.sh that updates the motd at bootup. Minh Quang. Pour :Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org cc : Objet : New to Debian -- simple questions Okay, I recently switched to Debian after using RedHat and Mandrake-Linux for 2-3 years... Right off the bat, there are two things I'd like to change. 1) Get rid of the login message that displays at the console after typing in my name and password. I read through /etc/login.defs and there was a reference to a file that I thought this message was coming from, but the file didn't exist. _ This e-mail is intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above and may constitute information that is priviledged or confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure . Dissemination , distribution , forwarding or copying of this e-mail by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited . If you have received this e-mail in error , please notify us and completly delete or destroy any and all electronic or other copies of the original message _
Re: New to Debian -- simple questions
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: Okay, I recently switched to Debian after using RedHat and Mandrake-Linux for 2-3 years... Right off the bat, there are two things I'd like to change. 1) Get rid of the login message that displays at the console after typing in my name and password. I read through /etc/login.defs and there was a reference to a file that I thought this message was coming from, but the file didn't exist. Change the file /etc/motd to whatever you want to see when you log in. sam th [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.abisource.com/~sam/ GnuPG Key: http://www.abisource.com/~sam/key pgpAOzXX0o0aa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New to Debian -- simple questions
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: Okay, I recently switched to Debian after using RedHat and Mandrake-Linux for 2-3 years... Right off the bat, there are two things I'd like to change. 1) Get rid of the login message that displays at the console after typing in my name and password. I read through /etc/login.defs and there was a reference to a file that I thought this message was coming from, but the file didn't exist. /etc/motd 2) When I logout, I want the screen to clear so that the login prompt is at the top (and it gets rid of any old text that now gets left onscreen). I seem to recall on the Sparcs we used to use that there was a .$SHELL_logout file. try this: # cd /etc # mv issue issue.old # clear issue # cat issue.old issue # rm issue.old H, I just checked a RedHat machine here at work and see a .bash_logout file ;-) It's (2) lines, and the second line is clear. I think I can take care of # 2 myself ! read above, putting it in issue is a better solution (imho), this will clear it _before_ displaying a login prompt, not after a logout Thanks in advance... more questions likely to come along soon ! that's the use of debian-user :) -- ,---. Name: Alson van der Meulen Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] School: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `---' hey, what does mkfs do? -
Re: New to Debian -- simple questions
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:11:22AM -0600, Sam TH wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: Okay, I recently switched to Debian after using RedHat and Mandrake-Linux for 2-3 years... Right off the bat, there are two things I'd like to change. 1) Get rid of the login message that displays at the console after typing in my name and password. I read through /etc/login.defs and there was a reference to a file that I thought this message was coming from, but the file didn't exist. Change the file /etc/motd to whatever you want to see when you log in. don't forget to chattr +i it, or edit /etc/rcS.d/S55bootmisc.sh not too update it at boot time -- ,---. Name: Alson van der Meulen Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] School: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `---' don't do that, it'll crash the sys SHIT -
Re: New to Debian -- simple questions
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Alson van der Meulen wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:11:22AM -0600, Sam TH wrote: 1) Get rid of the login message that displays at the console after typing in my name and password. I read through /etc/login.defs and there was a reference to a file that I thought this message was coming from, but the file didn't exist. Change the file /etc/motd to whatever you want to see when you log in. don't forget to chattr +i it, or edit /etc/rcS.d/S55bootmisc.sh not too update it at boot time -- You should modify the next entry in /etc/default/rcS EDITMOTD=no and then you could empty (or edit) your /etc/motd file. HTH Jos Lemmerling
Re: New to Debian -- simple questions
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: Okay, I recently switched to Debian after using RedHat and Mandrake-Linux for 2-3 years... Right off the bat, there are two things I'd like to change. 1) Get rid of the login message that displays at the console after typing in my name and password. I read through /etc/login.defs and there was a reference to a file that I thought this message was coming from, but the file didn't exist. # Edit /etc/login.defs to enable HUSHLOGIN # change to your home directory bash$ cd # create the 'hushlogin' file, which suppresses the motd bash$ touch .hushlogin Also, did you see this in your /etc/login.defs? OBSOLETED BY PAM ## # # # These options are now handled by PAM. Please # # edit the appropriate file in /etc/pam.d/ to # # enable the equivelants of them. # ### #MOTD_FILE This means that you must go into /etc/pam.d and change the options for 'login'. There is a PAM Administrators Guide that you can download. libpam-doc - Documentation of PAM Good luck. -- Chad ^chewie, gunnarr Walstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wookimus.net/ pgpUfF9EtTucM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: simple questions
On Aug 22, Robert S. Ross wrote I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? It is the default Unix, or Linux, is new to me, so I have learning curve to go through. Also0, how do I call Xwindows? When it is installed it gives you the option to set it up. It also gives you the option to use xdm so it starts at boot time. If you choose not to do this, you can use startx to begin it. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
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On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Brant Wells wrote: Howdy All... 1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am not able to run Netscape... What do I do?? It's for security reasons. Log on as someone else!
A couple of simple questions... I think
Howdy All... 1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am not able to run Netscape... What do I do?? 2) I've need to print to a printer that is shared on a WinNT 4.0 machine... as \\DAHOUSE\HPDESKJE how do I set that up in Linux? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brant Wells __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 12:56:20AM -0800, Brant Wells wrote: 1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am not able to run Netscape... What do I do?? That's deliberate. You shouldn't need to. 2) I've need to print to a printer that is shared on a WinNT 4.0 machine... as \\DAHOUSE\HPDESKJE how do I set that up in Linux? I've never done this, but it looks like you would want do something like this. Create a shell script, say /usr/local/bin/print-hpdeskje with the contents #!/bin/sh smbclient dahouse\\hpdeskje password -U username -P -c 'print -' (username and password are for the NT server.) Then in /etc/printcap, put something like lp|deskjet:\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/print-hpdeskje:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Thus when you print to the deskjet, lpd will filter it through the script, which will run smbclient and dump it to the printer on SMB. (You need to install the samba package for this). Then nothing is sent to the printer because lp=/dev/null. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
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cookies are sent to you as you browse thru diff websites and are saved in ur home directory On 1/9/99, at 12:56 AM, Brant Wells wrote: Howdy All... 1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am not able to run Netscape... What do I do?? cookies are sent to you as you browse thru diff websites and are saved in ur home directory, and you wouldnt want someone to send you .bash_profile w/ some crazy lines on it ... that is why netscape will not let you run it as root, (i think, just a theoy anyway) ... this is also the same reason it is a very bad idea to irc as root (while ur client is set to auto_dcc_get on) . 2) I've need to print to a printer that is shared on a WinNT 4.0 machine... as \\DAHOUSE\HPDESKJE how do I set that up in Linux? i know nothing about NT printing, sorry Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brant Wells
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On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 06:14:01PM +0800, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: |1) I got Netscape 4.5 installed on my system... If I login as ROOT, I am |not able to run Netscape... What do I do?? | |cookies are sent to you as you browse thru diff websites and are saved in ur home directory, and you wouldnt want someone to send you .bash_profile w/ some crazy lines on it ... that is why netscape will not let you run it as root, (i think, just a theoy anyway) ... this is also the same reason it is a very bad idea to irc as root (while ur client is set to auto_dcc_get on) . I don't think this is the reason. Cookies are stored in ~/.netscape/cookies only. And the server can't send you a .bash_profile as a cookie. -- Rgds, [ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / ICQ UIN: C30E6 ] Anthony. [ http://icqtrack.hk.st -- Track your ICQ friend ]
Re: A few (simple?) questions...
On Thu, Jan 07, 1999 at 01:03:12PM -0500, David Kennedy wrote: Hi, I was able to get Debian installed and everything I need working but I have a few questions: 1) How do you change the colours of xterm? Right now, when I click on it I get a black on white window. I can type xterm -bg black -fg white to get a new xterm window with the colours I want. Changing the menu to insert the -bg and -fg switches is window manager specific. I use fvwm2, and created a ~/.fvwm2/main-menu-pre.hook with this in it: # Same as main-menu.hook, but entries are added at the # very beginning of the menu. # for example: + rxvt Exec rxvt -ls -sl 256 -bg linen -geometry 80x56 + rxvt (big) Exec rxvt -ls -sl 256 -fn 10x20 -bg linen -geometry 80x56 + rxvt (black) Exec rxvt -ls -sl 256 -bg black -fg white -geometry 80x56 + rxvt (black, big) Exec rxvt -ls -sl 256 -fn 10x20 -bg black -fg white -geometry 80x56 + Emacs Exec emacs -g 80x70 + Emacs (I18N) Exec emacs -g 80x70 -fn fontset-standard # and the following generates a horizontal line: + Nop 2) What is dwww? I noticed in the menu directory where all the names of entries into the debian menu are that lots of choices aren't being displayed because they require 'dwww'. 3) How do I set a screensaver to activate? The menu lists many but I don't know how to set them. Also, I downloaded the opengl(?) screensavers and I can run them but they aren't listed under the screensaver section. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9812/msg01163.html miket
A few (simple?) questions...
Hi, I was able to get Debian installed and everything I need working but I have a few questions: 1) How do you change the colours of xterm? Right now, when I click on it I get a black on white window. I can type xterm -bg black -fg white to get a new xterm window with the colours I want. 2) What is dwww? I noticed in the menu directory where all the names of entries into the debian menu are that lots of choices aren't being displayed because they require 'dwww'. 3) How do I set a screensaver to activate? The menu lists many but I don't know how to set them. Also, I downloaded the opengl(?) screensavers and I can run them but they aren't listed under the screensaver section. Thanks for the help, I'm really enjoying getting used to Debian and Linux. David
Re: Two semi-simple questions...
Adam Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Feb 06, 1998 at 11:24:12AM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: Where is the setting which inhibits the addition of the equivalent of 'uname -a' at the start of /etc/motd ?? I have found it before... now I cant. If you're using hamm, edit /etc/default/rcS and set EDITMOTD=no. In bo, it is in /etc/init.d/boot Thanks Solved :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- WinErr: 001 Windows loaded - System in danger --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On Fri, Feb 06, 1998 at 11:24:12AM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: Where is the setting which inhibits the addition of the equivalent of 'uname -a' at the start of /etc/motd ?? I have found it before... now I cant. If you're using hamm, edit /etc/default/rcS and set EDITMOTD=no. HTH, Adam Klein -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Adam Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Feb 06, 1998 at 11:24:12AM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: Where is the setting which inhibits the addition of the equivalent of 'uname -a' at the start of /etc/motd ?? I have found it before... now I cant. If you're using hamm, edit /etc/default/rcS and set EDITMOTD=no. In bo, it is in /etc/init.d/boot Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Hi, Where is the setting which inhibits the addition of the equivalent of 'uname -a' at the start of /etc/motd ?? I have found it before... now I cant. Secondly, trying to start squake as a non-root user, Svgalib gives the error: Cannot get I/O Permissions. any ideas?? It only happens with squake. Thanks to any help regarding my svgalib question a while back, I solved the problem... got a new Video card. the old ET4000 is only good for some things.. namely winbloat95 :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- WinErr: 00D Keyboard locked - Try anything you can think of. --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Where is the setting which inhibits the addition of the equivalent of 'uname -a' at the start of /etc/motd ?? I have found it before... now I cant. Try /etc/issue.net and /etc/issue. -Ian _ .__. ___ ___ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \ \/ / | | | | | \ | | | | | | \ \ / / | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | \ \/ / | |__.| | | | \ \| | | |_| | / /\ \ |__|__.|__| |__| \| |___| /__/ \__\ * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, me wrote: If you can get a copy of OS2 BootManager, it will take care of everything. I believe it is about the best out there. I have used it with Win95/FreeBSD, Win95/Linux(slackware), and now Win95/Debian. It works flawlessly. As does most of the rest of OS/2. It is a shame that Microsoft was allowed to prevent the PC manufacturers from shipping it on their systems. We would then be dealing with OS/2 Server in the workplace rather than NT Server and it (OS/2) integrates so much better with a tcp/ip network and services. It certainly is a damned shame. If you ever have the chance to install it for a PC desktop workstation, give OS/2 a look. When Win95 came out, I remember commenting that it looks like Microsoft copied the OS/2 desktop and then screwed it up with proprietary junk that people only use because they hae no other choice. George Bonser Debian/GNU Linux See http://www.debian.org Linux ... It isn't just for breakfast anymore! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Hi [my own whining snipped] Perhaps you should boot into W95/DOS and leave it to loadlin to boot Linux. That way you can safely leave your MBR in the hands of W95. Of course you should always have a bootdisk ready, just in case W95 for some reason becomes unbootable. - Sten Anderson I will never do this. It's a question of technical ethics. You are probably right that it is the best way, but I don't use either Win95 or DOS often enough for it to be worth sacrificing my MBR to Win95. Well, a very nifty way to do this if you are using dos 6+ is to simply have one of your multiple boot options load loadlin automatically, causing it to look like you istalled some nifty bootmanager like OS/2's (which I used for quite a while) Of course I solved the problem by only having linux on my machine g And BTW, what do you mean sacrifice MBR? I don't use mine for much but booting, and the loadlin route is a pretty good one for newbies specially who might get lilo wrong... -- E-Mail: Neilen Marais [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 27-Nov-97 Time: 14:48:46 This message was sent by XFMail -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Dana M. Epp wrote: Hi Clay. 1) Yes, Debian can co-exist with Win95. Using something called LILO( Linux Loader ), it can become your boot manager, which will allow you boot multiple OS's. In my experience this works, but not nicely. You have to install Win95 first, and when it gets itselft all screwed up you can't reinstall it without scrapping your master boot record again, which I'm sure is a real pain if not a castrophe. I've also found (though it probably should have been obvious) that letting Win95 automagically reboot whill mess up your MBR to where you have to go in with a rescue disk. When it asks you if you want to reboot after you add a driver or something, say no. As for my DOS partition, I have to go and run DOS fdisk to get to that, and I know this could be done better, but perhaps not with Win95 on the same system. Anyone got their setup working better? 2) You can get plenty of packages for Debian for compiling other languages. Java, C, C++, Perl and shell scripting are just a few of the many exciting languages you can code under. And god forbid.. shucky darns.. no VB. ;-) Best thing you could do is buy a book on Linux and dive in. Running Linux by O'rieley and Associates seems to be a good start for many people, as it starts with the customization and installation of Linux right down to its use. Personally. I would suggest breaking down and going to www.lsl.com and buying the CD SuperPak, which contains 7 cds FULL of linux stuff. My fav.. is the Debain 1.31 Source CD, and Binary CD.. which made my first installs nice. It also includes RedHat, Slackware and a sunsite archive 3 cd set. And hey.. its like 10 bucks. Good luck. Clayton Berry wrote: Howdy. I'm new to linux/gnu and have a couple questions I haven't been able to find answers to. 1) Can Debian co-exist with my windows95 environment? 2) Does Debian come with compilers for languages other than Xwindows. (i.e. c, c++, java, and such?) I realize these are probably simple questions, but I got tired of surfing pages to find the answers. Thanks a lot! Clayton Berry -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Dana M. Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Britton wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Dana M. Epp wrote: In my experience this works, but not nicely. You have to install Win95 first, and when it gets itselft all screwed up you can't reinstall it without scrapping your master boot record again, which I'm sure is a real pain if not a castrophe. I've also found (though it probably should have been obvious) that letting Win95 automagically reboot whill mess up your MBR to where you have to go in with a rescue disk. When it asks you if Can you be more specific about your trouble with rebooting Win95? I do it all the time and never have a problem. LILO works quite well. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Britton wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Dana M. Epp wrote: In my experience this works, but not nicely. You have to install Win95 first, and when it gets itselft all screwed up you can't reinstall it without scrapping your master boot record again, which I'm sure is a real pain if not a castrophe. I've also found (though it probably should have been obvious) that letting Win95 automagically reboot whill mess up your MBR to where you have to go in with a rescue disk. When it asks you if Can you be more specific about your trouble with rebooting Win95? I do it all the time and never have a problem. LILO works quite well. The problem is not with LILO but with Win95. Exactly what the trouble is I'm not sure, but if I allow Win95 to try to boot itself it will lock up, if I remember right with a message saying it can't locate somehting and a prompt like this: C with what purpose I can't remember. I have my linux partition designated as the active one (via linux fdisk). I don't remember if I ever get prompted by LILO on those Win95 reboots or not, it's been ages since I had to boot Win95, and I think I will reclaim the 800 megs it's taking on my disk as soon as I figure out how to conveniently make use of a second partition of that size. Britton -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Dana M. Epp wrote: Hi Clay. 1) Yes, Debian can co-exist with Win95. Using something called LILO( Linux Loader ), it can become your boot manager, which will allow you boot multiple OS's. In my experience this works, but not nicely. You have to install Win95 first, and when it gets itselft all screwed up you can't reinstall it without scrapping your master boot record again, which I'm sure is a real pain if not a castrophe. I've also found (though it probably should have been obvious) that letting Win95 automagically reboot whill mess up your MBR to where you have to go in with a rescue disk. When it asks you if you want to reboot after you add a driver or something, say no. As for my DOS partition, I have to go and run DOS fdisk to get to that, and I know this could be done better, but perhaps not with Win95 on the same system. Anyone got their setup working better? Perhaps you should boot into W95/DOS and leave it to loadlin to boot Linux. That way you can safely leave your MBR in the hands of W95. Of course you should always have a bootdisk ready, just in case W95 for some reason becomes unbootable. - Sten Anderson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On 26 Nov 1997, Sten Anderson wrote: Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Dana M. Epp wrote: Hi Clay. 1) Yes, Debian can co-exist with Win95. Using something called LILO( Linux Loader ), it can become your boot manager, which will allow you boot multiple OS's. [my own whining snipped] Perhaps you should boot into W95/DOS and leave it to loadlin to boot Linux. That way you can safely leave your MBR in the hands of W95. Of course you should always have a bootdisk ready, just in case W95 for some reason becomes unbootable. - Sten Anderson I will never do this. It's a question of technical ethics. You are probably right that it is the best way, but I don't use either Win95 or DOS often enough for it to be worth sacrificing my MBR to Win95. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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--- You wrote: Hi Clay. 1) Yes, Debian can co-exist with Win95. Using something called LILO( Linux Loader ), it can become your boot manager, which will allow you boot multiple OS's. In my experience this works, but not nicely. You have to install Win95 first, and when it gets itselft all screwed up you can't reinstall it without scrapping your master boot record again, which I'm sure is a real pain if not a castrophe. I've also found (though it probably should have been obvious) that letting Win95 automagically reboot whill mess up your MBR to where you have to go in with a rescue disk. When it asks you if you want to reboot after you add a driver or something, say no. As for my DOS partition, I have to go and run DOS fdisk to get to that, and I know this could be done better, but perhaps not with Win95 on the same system. Anyone got their setup working better? --- end of quote --- I contribute so little in the form of advice to this list, that I figured I'd jump in here, it might be my only chance for awhile!! I have a Debian/Win95 machine, and it works beautifully. Win95 may try to cause problems, but LILO can sure keep it in its place. I'm constantly rebooting my machine right now because I am still working on setting up my system to dial in under Linux. Right now, I can only dial in under Windows, which, for all its faults, was easier to get working (though it won't let my 56kbps modem connect faster than 9600bps, but that is another story). I can send you my lilo.conf file if you are interested. I have never had a problem letting windows or linux reboot the machine (Probably 50+ reboots, just so you know it is a large enough sample size). Larry Gariepy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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If you can get a copy of OS2 BootManager, it will take care of everything. I believe it is about the best out there. I have used it with Win95/FreeBSD, Win95/Linux(slackware), and now Win95/Debian. It works flawlessly. Now if all I had was Linux and OS/2 on my pc, life would be great! Alas, my wife likes 95, and until I can totally conquer Linux (I got the Debian CD from the mag, BOOT), I am forced to live with it. Of course, if all fails, I still have my Amiga3000, but thats a different subject! Also, thanks to all in helping me get things going with Debian. Mike --- Operating System(s) of CHOICE: Debian (Linux) and OS2Warp3 me ISAT corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/endsley/ --- On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Britton wrote: On 26 Nov 1997, Sten Anderson wrote: Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Dana M. Epp wrote: Hi Clay. 1) Yes, Debian can co-exist with Win95. Using something called LILO( Linux Loader ), it can become your boot manager, which will allow you boot multiple OS's. [my own whining snipped] Perhaps you should boot into W95/DOS and leave it to loadlin to boot Linux. That way you can safely leave your MBR in the hands of W95. Of course you should always have a bootdisk ready, just in case W95 for some reason becomes unbootable. - Sten Anderson I will never do this. It's a question of technical ethics. You are probably right that it is the best way, but I don't use either Win95 or DOS often enough for it to be worth sacrificing my MBR to Win95. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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If you check my sig, you will see that I have Warp3. I love it! I have had it for about 2 years. I also am subscribed to a online book for OS2, that is updated by one of the developers of OS2. He was a developer when IBM and M$ were working together. He plainly states that M$ NT is based on OS/2 V2! I can get the url (his statement is in a article--online magazine) if anybody is interested. His name is David Broth and his web site is Millenium-Technologies (sp). BTW, I have OS/2 Warp3 with #32 fixpak. I am just interested in learning and knowing Un*x. Mike --- Operating System(s) of CHOICE: Debian (Linux) and OS2Warp3 me ISAT corecom.net http://www.corecom.net/endsley/ --- On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, George Bonser wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, me wrote: If you can get a copy of OS2 BootManager, it will take care of everything. I believe it is about the best out there. I have used it with Win95/FreeBSD, Win95/Linux(slackware), and now Win95/Debian. It works flawlessly. As does most of the rest of OS/2. It is a shame that Microsoft was allowed to prevent the PC manufacturers from shipping it on their systems. We would then be dealing with OS/2 Server in the workplace rather than NT Server and it (OS/2) integrates so much better with a tcp/ip network and services. It certainly is a damned shame. If you ever have the chance to install it for a PC desktop workstation, give OS/2 a look. When Win95 came out, I remember commenting that it looks like Microsoft copied the OS/2 desktop and then screwed it up with proprietary junk that people only use because they hae no other choice. George Bonser Debian/GNU Linux See http://www.debian.org Linux ... It isn't just for breakfast anymore! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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If you check my sig, you will see that I have Warp3. I love it! I have had it for about 2 years. I guess you find it a little disappointing that IBM has decided to dump OS/2 now, huh? No more development team - they've all gone over to Java development Oh well, you've picked the *best* OS to replace it with! Long live Linux! Regards, Kevin Traas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience this works, but not nicely. You have to install Win95 first, and when it gets itselft all screwed up you can't reinstall it without scrapping your master boot record again, which I'm sure is a real pain if not a castrophe. Although the W95 installation code overwrites the MBR without asking or even telling you, it does not alter the partition table. Simply reinstalling the MBR fixes the problem - a pain, yes, but hardly a catastrophe. I've also found (though it probably should have been obvious) that letting Win95 automagically reboot whill mess up your MBR to where you have to go in with a rescue disk. I have not had this experience. When W95 reboots, it does nothing to the MBR here. As for my DOS partition, I have to go and run DOS fdisk to get to that, and I know this could be done better, but perhaps not with Win95 on the same system. Anyone got their setup working better? If you have different partitions for W95 and DOS, the problem you run in to is that both require the active flag in the MBR set to the partition they booted from. This requires rewriting the MBR at boot time. My version of LILO (19) can't do this, because the code turned out to be buggy and was disabled. Perhaps later versions (are there already?) can - look for the REWRITE-TABLE option. Alternatively, you could try my Boot Control (see sig). Although the installation program is an MS-DOS executable, it installs an MBR that doesn't depend on any particular OS, and (unlike LILO) doesn't use any other disk space. It allows you to boot the primary partitions and rewrites itself to disk. Gertjan. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Howdy. I'm new to linux/gnu and have a couple questions I haven't been able to find answers to. 1) Can Debian co-exist with my windows95 environment? 2) Does Debian come with compilers for languages other than Xwindows. (i.e. c, c++, java, and such?) I realize these are probably simple questions, but I got tired of surfing pages to find the answers. Thanks a lot! Clayton Berry -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Hi Clay. 1) Yes, Debian can co-exist with Win95. Using something called LILO( Linux Loader ), it can become your boot manager, which will allow you boot multiple OS's. 2) You can get plenty of packages for Debian for compiling other languages. Java, C, C++, Perl and shell scripting are just a few of the many exciting languages you can code under. And god forbid.. shucky darns.. no VB. ;-) Best thing you could do is buy a book on Linux and dive in. Running Linux by O'rieley and Associates seems to be a good start for many people, as it starts with the customization and installation of Linux right down to its use. Personally. I would suggest breaking down and going to www.lsl.com and buying the CD SuperPak, which contains 7 cds FULL of linux stuff. My fav.. is the Debain 1.31 Source CD, and Binary CD.. which made my first installs nice. It also includes RedHat, Slackware and a sunsite archive 3 cd set. And hey.. its like 10 bucks. Good luck. Clayton Berry wrote: Howdy. I'm new to linux/gnu and have a couple questions I haven't been able to find answers to. 1) Can Debian co-exist with my windows95 environment? 2) Does Debian come with compilers for languages other than Xwindows. (i.e. c, c++, java, and such?) I realize these are probably simple questions, but I got tired of surfing pages to find the answers. Thanks a lot! Clayton Berry -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Dana M. Epp [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Clayton Berry wrote: 1) Can Debian co-exist with my windows95 environment? As already mentioned, yes it can; you can either set up linux to load via lilo (a boot manager designed for loading linux, but perfectly capable of loading Win95 as well, so that you choose at startup), or you can use LOADLIN, which is a way of loading linux from Dos (or from Win95 rebooted into Dos mode). 2) Does Debian come with compilers for languages other than Xwindows. (i.e. c, c++, java, and such?) First off, Xwindows is not a programming language, any more than Windows95 is a programming language. (That is, from the programming point of view, Xwindows is a large API, but this is different from the language per se) Most Xwindows programs are written in C or C++, and Debian (as do all Linux distributions I know of) comes with an excellent C compiler (gcc) and a C++ compiler that is not as great, but getting there (g++). I can't speak for the Java tools that come directly with Debian, (kaffe and guavac) but the Debian package of jdk1.1 (which can be ftp'ed from the non-free part of hamm on ftp.debian.org) works just fine for what I've been doing with it on my machine. (little math-teaching applets) And let's not limit ourselves to common languages - on my Debian CD, I find interpreters for Perl, awk, sed, Emacs Lisp, forth, scheme, intercal, python, icon, logo, tcl, and even BASIC. I find compilers for pascal, scheme, fortran77, Ada, Common Lisp, icon, and mercury (or is this one an interpreter - can't tell from the description). Then there are a handful of assemblers, and loads of debugging/development tools (most admittedly geared at C/C++, but I think gdb handles pascal and Ada debugging as well). I'm reasonably certain that there are more compilers/interpreters on the CD that I just missed; I know that there are more available via ftp. It's a wonderful environment for programming, especially for one looking to get a start in C - C and unix machines in general work together very naturally. DANIEL MARTIN p.s. I am tempted to now go and see how many of these languages I can write hello, world! in... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Howdy! Let's tackle the LILO question first. After we get your system booting the way you want, then we can deal with X. I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? There are a couple of scenarios for using LILO to boot your system. 1: It can be on your boot disk's MBR (Master Boot Record) - this disk is often your first IDE drive. 2: It can be on a primary partition on your first drive - usually it's on the partition that Linux is going to use as root (/). When LILO is on your MBR, it receives control of the boot sequence from the BIOS. LILO provides a primitive menu that would then allow you to select which OS you want to boot. When DOS/Windows is selected it passes them control and they boot normally. The down side to this is that Windows 95 wants to control the MBR and will wipe that area out every time it's installed. Also, from the sound of your post, you have a boot manager, so it too would be out of the boot sequence. This leaves installing LILO on a primary partition on your first drive. /etc/lilo.conf is the file that controls how LILO behaves. This file will (or should) have two lines of interest: boot = /dev/hda? root = /dev/hda? Where ? is the partition number being used for Linux. If DOS/Windows 95 are installed on the first partition (which is usual) you might want to set it up so that /dev/hda2 is both the boot and root device. Once this is done you run LILO by typing lilo at the command-line prompt. This will do what's needed for LILO to boot your system into Linux *if* /dev/hda2 is marked as the active partition in the partition table. To boot to DOS/Windows 95 the first partition on that device would need to be made the active partition. How does this integrate with your partition manager? I don't know - I only use Linux. I would assume that current partition managers either control the MBR or setup their own tiny DOS partition that must be made the active partition. Either way they are going to need to know which partitions have which OS installed on them. Once that's done they will hand-off to the OS of choice or boot the default OS upon timeout. At least that's how I'd do it if I were writing a boot manager. YMMV. My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? There is an option on Debian's install screen for installing LILO on your hard drive. I don't remember the exact wording, but it's after installing the base files. Unix, or Linux, is new to me, so I have learning curve to go through. Also0, how do I call Xwindows? E-mail the list once you have LILO configured the way you want. Then we can all tackle the X questions. Chuck PS I think someone on the list recently mentioned using loadlin as an option to LILO. Doing so allows you to boot Linux from a running DOS system without messing with the MBR and partition tables. It may be something to think about. Fortunately, with Linux there are always options... -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. Probably due to the fact that some inconsiderate individuals are using debian-user as a batteground for a flamewar. :-( I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? If I understand what you are trying to do correctly, you want to set up lilo on a partition, instead of on the Master Boot Record of a disk. Just change /etc/lilo.conf to read: boot=/dev/hda2# or whichever disk/partition you want it on Conversely, if you actually did want lilo on your MBR, then you use this: boot=/dev/hda # notice that there is no partition number Unix, or Linux, is new to me, so I have learning curve to go through. Also0, how do I call Xwindows? Just use dselect to install the proper packages. I haven't done it for a while, but I think you want to pick: xserver-vga16 (+ it's dependencies) - this package contains the XF86Setup program which will guide you through setting up your video card xserver-??? (pick one that matches you card, or if you are in doubt, don't pick anything and read the documentation in /usr/doc/X11) You probably also want to pick a window manager like fvwm2, fvwm95 or afterstep (I use fvwm2). There are lots of other packages that you might also want, such as xcontrib. Cheers, - Jim pgp4xvwXdislI.pgp Description: PGP signature
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I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? Unix, or Linux, is new to me, so I have learning curve to go through. Also0, how do I call Xwindows? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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On Aug 22, Robert S. Ross wrote I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? It is the default Unix, or Linux, is new to me, so I have learning curve to go through. Also0, how do I call Xwindows? When it is installed it gives you the option to set it up. It also gives you the option to use xdm so it starts at boot time. If you choose not to do this, you can use startx to begin it. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
