Re: smail configuration.
I use procmail/fetchmail/smail for all my mail handlings... if I send an email locally, I would have something like from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and virge is my machine name. when I send an email to the outside world, I always use pine, and set the From: header to an email address in my uni. And my fetchmail will then grab the mails from uni for me. Hope this will make my settings more clearer... thx On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Helge Hafting wrote: > > > Hi, > > some sites mail spam rejects my mail because my hostname is not > > qualified. > > > > So how do I config smail to make sure my host name is qualified. I > > had a look at the man page about /etc/smail/qualify... but don't really > > understand what to do with it... > > > > Hard to answer without knowing more about your mail setup. > I assume though that you have a common dialup setup where > you fetch mail from an ISP and send outgoing mail via the same ISP. > > If so, try sending mail to yourself. Look at the "from:" and > "sender:" headers. Chances are that it is "from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > where "yourmachine" isn't listed anywhere in DNS so it doesn't work. > Some sites will reject your mail, and nobody will be able to > reply to the bogus address either, unless they happen to be logged > in on your particular machine. You probably have a an email > address at the ISP, right? Now change your smail setup so > that smail rewrites your addresses so they seem to come > from the ISP's mailserver instead. (man smail, look > at /usr/doc/smail, this isn't exactly easy) > Also make sure the username is correct. More trickery is necessary > if your username on your machine is different from username at the ISP. > > People should be able to reply after this, and your mail won't > be rejected if "from/sender" point back to the ISP nameserver which > is registered in DNS. > > Helge Hafting > > > > > > >
Re: smail configuration.
Hi, > from the ISP's mailserver instead. (man smail, look > at /usr/doc/smail, this isn't exactly easy) an easier way could be to install exim als MTA. There you have to uncommend the last two lines in exim.conf and create a file called email-addresses in /etc/ with user [EMAIL PROTECTED] and everything should work fine. Bye, Andreas.
Re: smail configuration.
> Hi, > some sites mail spam rejects my mail because my hostname is not > qualified. > > So how do I config smail to make sure my host name is qualified. I > had a look at the man page about /etc/smail/qualify... but don't really > understand what to do with it... > Hard to answer without knowing more about your mail setup. I assume though that you have a common dialup setup where you fetch mail from an ISP and send outgoing mail via the same ISP. If so, try sending mail to yourself. Look at the "from:" and "sender:" headers. Chances are that it is "from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" where "yourmachine" isn't listed anywhere in DNS so it doesn't work. Some sites will reject your mail, and nobody will be able to reply to the bogus address either, unless they happen to be logged in on your particular machine. You probably have a an email address at the ISP, right? Now change your smail setup so that smail rewrites your addresses so they seem to come from the ISP's mailserver instead. (man smail, look at /usr/doc/smail, this isn't exactly easy) Also make sure the username is correct. More trickery is necessary if your username on your machine is different from username at the ISP. People should be able to reply after this, and your mail won't be rejected if "from/sender" point back to the ISP nameserver which is registered in DNS. Helge Hafting
smail configuration.
Hi, some sites mail spam rejects my mail because my hostname is not qualified. So how do I config smail to make sure my host name is qualified. I had a look at the man page about /etc/smail/qualify... but don't really understand what to do with it... Thx. Shao.
smail configuration problem
hi to all , every 20 minutes linux give me this message Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:03:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> runq runq: setgroups() failed: Operation not permitted what's that mean ? where is the problem? where can i find info on how to correctly setup smail ( i try sendmail but my system crashes so i prefer smail which seems to be easyier) thanks samuele tonon
Re: setting the sender field (was Re: Smail Configuration)
> I did a similar thing to get my smail working. > I use exmh/mh for email. My problem is that the sender field is set to > [EMAIL PROTECTED](FQDN). The user is jmb (or whoever I'm logged > in as) and the hostname is achimota. The network I'm on (from my dial-up > ISP) > is ziplink.net. My FQDN ends up as achimota.ziplink.net, which does not > resolve when a DNS lookup is done on it. As a result of this mail to some > domains gets rejected. If the FQDN does not resolve it is rejected because > maybe they think it is spam or something. Am I making any sense? I hope I > have explained the problem clearly. For example this is being sent from user > jmb on host nsx.rd.usr.com so the sender field in this message is going to > read as [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is ok because nsx.rd.usr.com is a real host. > >From what I've been reading, the sender field is set by smail. Is there a > part in the smail config files where I can set the sender field to a real > value - one with a hostname that will resolve. > Thanks for any help > I Am not sure I understand your problem correctly, but if I do then the following, especialy /etc/smail/transport and /etc/smail/maps/frommap, might help: bin0mkODm9P3T.bin Description: smail.tgz
setting the sender field (was Re: Smail Configuration)
I did a similar thing to get my smail working. I use exmh/mh for email. My problem is that the sender field is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED](FQDN). The user is jmb (or whoever I'm logged in as) and the hostname is achimota. The network I'm on (from my dial-up ISP) is ziplink.net. My FQDN ends up as achimota.ziplink.net, which does not resolve when a DNS lookup is done on it. As a result of this mail to some domains gets rejected. If the FQDN does not resolve it is rejected because maybe they think it is spam or something. Am I making any sense? I hope I have explained the problem clearly. For example this is being sent from user jmb on host nsx.rd.usr.com so the sender field in this message is going to read as [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is ok because nsx.rd.usr.com is a real host. >From what I've been reading, the sender field is set by smail. Is there a part in the smail config files where I can set the sender field to a real value - one with a hostname that will resolve. Thanks for any help jmb >On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 12:52:52AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 12:20:53PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Hi , >> > I have a mail account at my ISP which is SMTP. Can somebody please >> > explain to me how to set up smail so that I can send and receive mails >> > from my machine...Right now, I am using netscape mail, but not very >> > comfy with that. (I did look at the HOWTO, but can not make head or tail >> > out of it) >> >> Hello Vaidhy, >> >> please press return evry 80 characters or so, netscape puts whole >> paragraphs in a single line, thank you. >> >> Start smailconfig (maybe you need to provide option "--force") as root. >> >> Then choose option (1) Internet host. Answer the questions, it should be >> pretty straightforward, but feel free to ask questions (I use exim, and >> don't rmember the exact questions). The important thing is "smarthost", >> which should be YES and set to your SMTP host name. >> >> You are done. >> > >I ran into a slight problem using that config with smail. Perhaps I >just didn't answer the questions properly? My config file ended up >with a visible host name of worldnetla.net (my ISP domain), which was >ok. The hosts line ended up "worldnetla.net, sales.mmi.bus" which was >not ok. (sales.mmi.bus is local host name, not registered). The >line for additional (more?) hostnames had "localhost". Result was >I could send email to anybody as long as they were not in my ISP >domain. Smail tried to deliver mail to my ISP domain locally. > >Solution (maybe not politically correct, but it works): deleted the >line for more hostnames, changed line for hosts to "localhost", and >it started working correctly. I don't remember the actual config >tags for these lines (running sendmail now) but they are at the top >of the generated config file. > >Mike -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail Configuration
On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 04:07:45PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 01:23:14AM -0500, Eric wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 03:48:27PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > > > Both your From: and Reply-To: were [EMAIL PROTECTED] here. > > > I don't know what a Return-Path is, nor why an MUA would be using it. > > > > It's my understanding that a Return-Path is the header which > > determines where smtp errors go. For example, your headers look like > > this: > > > > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 10 01:16:39 1998 > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I have an incapability to get my Return-Path to match my actual e-mail > > address in mutt. I assume that this is what is causing my problems > > (not being able to get e-mail through to my friend) because when I use > > pine, my messages get through fine, and the only difference in the > > headers is my Return-Path. > > Perhaps this in your .muttrc would do it: > > my_hdr Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah, that's what I thought...didn't work. -- _ _ | |(_) | _| | | | |___ | | |__/ | |__/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail Configuration
On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 01:23:14AM -0500, Eric wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 03:48:27PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > Both your From: and Reply-To: were [EMAIL PROTECTED] here. > > I don't know what a Return-Path is, nor why an MUA would be using it. > > It's my understanding that a Return-Path is the header which > determines where smtp errors go. For example, your headers look like > this: > > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 10 01:16:39 1998 > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have an incapability to get my Return-Path to match my actual e-mail > address in mutt. I assume that this is what is causing my problems > (not being able to get e-mail through to my friend) because when I use > pine, my messages get through fine, and the only difference in the > headers is my Return-Path. Perhaps this in your .muttrc would do it: my_hdr Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail Configuration
On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 03:48:27PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Both your From: and Reply-To: were [EMAIL PROTECTED] here. > I don't know what a Return-Path is, nor why an MUA would be using it. It's my understanding that a Return-Path is the header which determines where smtp errors go. For example, your headers look like this: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 10 01:16:39 1998 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have an incapability to get my Return-Path to match my actual e-mail address in mutt. I assume that this is what is causing my problems (not being able to get e-mail through to my friend) because when I use pine, my messages get through fine, and the only difference in the headers is my Return-Path. -- _ _ | |(_) | _| | | | |___ | | |__/ | |__/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail Configuration
On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 12:52:52AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 12:20:53PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi , > > I have a mail account at my ISP which is SMTP. Can somebody please > > explain to me how to set up smail so that I can send and receive mails > > from my machine...Right now, I am using netscape mail, but not very > > comfy with that. (I did look at the HOWTO, but can not make head or tail > > out of it) > > Hello Vaidhy, > > please press return evry 80 characters or so, netscape puts whole > paragraphs in a single line, thank you. > > Start smailconfig (maybe you need to provide option "--force") as root. > > Then choose option (1) Internet host. Answer the questions, it should be > pretty straightforward, but feel free to ask questions (I use exim, and > don't rmember the exact questions). The important thing is "smarthost", > which should be YES and set to your SMTP host name. > > You are done. > I ran into a slight problem using that config with smail. Perhaps I just didn't answer the questions properly? My config file ended up with a visible host name of worldnetla.net (my ISP domain), which was ok. The hosts line ended up "worldnetla.net, sales.mmi.bus" which was not ok. (sales.mmi.bus is local host name, not registered). The line for additional (more?) hostnames had "localhost". Result was I could send email to anybody as long as they were not in my ISP domain. Smail tried to deliver mail to my ISP domain locally. Solution (maybe not politically correct, but it works): deleted the line for more hostnames, changed line for hosts to "localhost", and it started working correctly. I don't remember the actual config tags for these lines (running sendmail now) but they are at the top of the generated config file. Mike -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail Configuration
On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 02:42:51AM +0300, Shaul wrote: > > Hi , > > I have a mail account at my ISP which is SMTP. Can somebody please explain > > to me how to set up smail so that I can send and receive mails from my > > machine...Right now, I am using netscape mail, but not very comfy with > > that. (I did look at the HOWTO, but can not make head or tail out of it) > > > > I am using smail and fetchmail. It is working, altough I have to add a > Reply-To field becuase the recpiants can't find my machine from the Internet. > Note that my machine is called rakefet. I am the user shaul. My ISP login > name > is beitamos and my ISP's mail server is mail.inter.net.il > Hope it will help. Since you have got your MUA to add the reply-to, why not configure it to send your correct From address instead? I cannot imagine why anyone would go around with a broken from address. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail Configuration
On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 12:20:53PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi , > I have a mail account at my ISP which is SMTP. Can somebody please > explain to me how to set up smail so that I can send and receive mails > from my machine...Right now, I am using netscape mail, but not very > comfy with that. (I did look at the HOWTO, but can not make head or tail out > of it) Hello Vaidhy, please press return evry 80 characters or so, netscape puts whole paragraphs in a single line, thank you. Start smailconfig (maybe you need to provide option "--force") as root. Then choose option (1) Internet host. Answer the questions, it should be pretty straightforward, but feel free to ask questions (I use exim, and don't rmember the exact questions). The important thing is "smarthost", which should be YES and set to your SMTP host name. You are done. You may want to try exim, which has easier configuration file. eximconfig is similar to smailconfig, but Smarthost is a seperate choice (I think it was (2)) Bye, Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail Configuration
> Hi , > I have a mail account at my ISP which is SMTP. Can somebody please explain > to me how to set up smail so that I can send and receive mails from my > machine...Right now, I am using netscape mail, but not very comfy with that. > (I did look at the HOWTO, but can not make head or tail out of it) > I am using smail and fetchmail. It is working, altough I have to add a Reply-To field becuase the recpiants can't find my machine from the Internet. Note that my machine is called rakefet. I am the user shaul. My ISP login name is beitamos and my ISP's mail server is mail.inter.net.il Hope it will help. 1) A script of /usr/sbin/smailconfig for my system is: Script started on Fri Jun 5 03:04:54 1998 rakefet# /usr/sbin/smailconfig Your mail system (Smail) is already configured; I'll leave the existing configuration untouched. Use --force to ignore it. rakefet# /usr/sbin/smailconfig --force Ignoring existing Smail configuration. I can do certain kinds of automatic configuration of your mail system, by asking you a number of questions. Later you may to confirm and/or correct your answers. In any case, comprehensive information on configuring Smail is in smail(5) and in /usr/doc/smail/examples and /usr/doc/smail/guide. You must choose one of the options below: (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery. (3) Satellite system: No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. (4) Local delivery only: You are not on a network. Mail for local users is delivered. (5) No configuration: No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and should not be used. You must then do the configuration yourself later or run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root. Select a number from 1 to 5, from the list above. Enter value (default=`1', `x' to restart): 1 What is the `visible' mail name of your system ? This will appear on From: lines of outgoing messages. Enter value (default=`rakefet', `x' to restart): rakefet Does this system have any other names which may appear on incoming mail messages, apart from the visible name above (rakefet) and the system's hostname (rakefet) ? If so enter them here, separated with spaces or commas. If there are none, say `none'. Enter value (default=`none', `x' to restart): none Do you have a smarthost available (and accessible via SMTP) ? A smarthost is a system to which you forward mail you don't want to deliver yourself; it presumably has better connectivity or routing information than you do. Commercial providers usually provide a smarthost for their customers, and large organisations will often have a site mail switch which can be used. Use of a smarthost is strongly recommended (you'll be able to specify exactly when to use it soon). If a smarthost is available please enter its name (otherwise, `none'). Enter value (`x' to restart): mail.inter.net.il Do you wish to use the smarthost for: (1) All outbound mail. This is good if your system is poorly connected, eg via dialup SLIP, as you don't have to talk to distant machines yourself, and it allows you to send out just one copy of a message for all its the remote recipients. (2) Mail that you have failed to find a way to route. This means that mail for any unknown hosts or domains will be sent to the smarthost in the hope that it will know better; if it doesn't the smarthost should bounce it back to you. This is recommended for most situations, and usually results in faster end-to-end delivery than always using the smarthost. (3) Only mail to the `awkward' UUCP and BITNET domains. These domains don't appear in the Internet routing tables, and how to reach them varies depending on your location. Use this if your smarthost's admin has asked you to avoid using the smarthost unnecessarily, or if it is unreliable or very slow. Select a number from 1 to 3, from the list above. Enter value (default=`2', `x' to restart): 1 Mail for the `postmaster' and `root' accounts is usually redirected to one or more user accounts, of the actual system administrators. By default, I'll set things up so that mail for `postmaster' and for various system accounts is redirected to `root', and mail for `root' is redirected to a real user. This can be changed by editing /etc/aliases. Note that postmaster-mail should usually be read on the system it is directed to, rather than being forwarded elsewhere, so (at least one of) the users you choose should not redirect their
Smail Configuration
Hi , I have a mail account at my ISP which is SMTP. Can somebody please explain to me how to set up smail so that I can send and receive mails from my machine...Right now, I am using netscape mail, but not very comfy with that. (I did look at the HOWTO, but can not make head or tail out of it) Thanks, Vaidhy -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Smail configuration question
On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 09:57:55PM -0800, Adam Klein wrote: > I need to rewrite some of my config files, and I just > wanted to know why you have to use $($user$) in some > places instead of just $user? Afaik $( expands to ( and $) expands to ). Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / There are lies, statistics and benchmarks / pgpj9Mmpc7wxR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Smail configuration question
I need to rewrite some of my config files, and I just wanted to know why you have to use $($user$) in some places instead of just $user? Adam Klein -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration
I have a similar problem. In the meantime, I am using the "internet site" option (the first one). And I am adding to my mail the Reply-to field, where I am write my ISP address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I tried to follow something that was posted on the list, which suggets adding some fields to the transports configuration. To be more specific, I tried to change my smtp entry in the /etc/smail/transports file, by adding the lines remove_header="From" insert_header="From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" But it didn't work, and I don't understand why. On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 23:31:03 EST, David S. Zelinsky wrote: > I have what must be a common mail setup, but I've never figured out the > "right" way to configure smail. > > I connect to the Internet from my home machine by ppp through a commercial > service provider, with dynamic IP. > > I have all my mail (to me from other people) sent to my account on the ISP, > where I fetch it using a POP3 client. So far so good. > > I also want all outgoing mail to go directly by SMTP, unless it's destined for > the local host -- e.g. system messages to root. > > Now smailconfig gives several options: > > (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this > machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. > > This mostly works, if I just give it my local host name, `home', but outgoing > messages say they're from [EMAIL PROTECTED]' which is not a valid domain > name, as > far as the outside world is concerned. Aside from confusing people, some SMTP > servers aparently reject my outgoing mail, because they can't resolve the > domain. I've been able to get around this by using emacs mail mode, and > hacking sendmail.el to call `sendmail -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (my ISP account). > Though this seems to work, it has obvious shortcomings. > > (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): > > Nope, I don't use UUCP. > > (3) Satellite system: > No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated > on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. > > This is no good, because local mail doesn't work. > > (4) Local delivery only: > (5) No configuration: > > These won't do, either. > > What's the right way to do this? Thanks in advance for any help. > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > David S. Zelinsky > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration
On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Andrew J Tarr wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > "David S. Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What's the right way to do this? Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Try using `internet site', but setting the smarthost to your isp's > > mail server and selecting `always route through smarthost' or whatever > > it is that's similar to that on the list. > > -- > > Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail will receive free 32MB core files! > > I've got similar troubles to David, and when I tried the 'all mail routed > through smarthost' option, all my system mail gets sent to my isp, where > it can't be dealt with so it bounces back to me. > > It may have something to do with the fact I've put in my isp's domain name > in as a visible name, but otherwise the return address has my machine's > name as a domain. Even now, I still have my username on my machine as the > user part of the return address. Because it lacks the "60" of my username > at my isp, I can just pretend it's antispam but it's still pretty > annoying. > > Before you ask, this mail gets sent from a different system 8-p. > > Andrew Tarr Well, what I do is the 'internet site' configuration, with smarthost as described; I have the visible name of my machine set to my personal name for the machine. I've been thinking of adding something to the smtp portion of the smail transports file to fix the From: address to be nice, (there was a post on this to the list a little while ago, but it doesn't quite do what I need) but in the meantime my MTA takes care of it -- that is, I use gnus to do all my mail from my machine at home, and my .emacs contains: (setq user-mail-address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") What are you using to send mail? It may be possible with your MTA to set the From: address (or at the very least add a nice Reply-To: header, which is what I do from my school account where I use pine to do mail) DANIEL MARTIN -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration
On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote: > "David S. Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What's the right way to do this? Thanks in advance for any help. > > Try using `internet site', but setting the smarthost to your isp's > mail server and selecting `always route through smarthost' or whatever > it is that's similar to that on the list. > -- > Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail will receive free 32MB core files! I've got similar troubles to David, and when I tried the 'all mail routed through smarthost' option, all my system mail gets sent to my isp, where it can't be dealt with so it bounces back to me. It may have something to do with the fact I've put in my isp's domain name in as a visible name, but otherwise the return address has my machine's name as a domain. Even now, I still have my username on my machine as the user part of the return address. Because it lacks the "60" of my username at my isp, I can just pretend it's antispam but it's still pretty annoying. Before you ask, this mail gets sent from a different system 8-p. Andrew Tarr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Some say love makes the world go around, others say it's money. Actually, it's angular momentum" -Dave Frame -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration
"David S. Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's the right way to do this? Thanks in advance for any help. Try using `internet site', but setting the smarthost to your isp's mail server and selecting `always route through smarthost' or whatever it is that's similar to that on the list. -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail will receive free 32MB core files! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail configuration
I have what must be a common mail setup, but I've never figured out the "right" way to configure smail. I connect to the Internet from my home machine by ppp through a commercial service provider, with dynamic IP. I have all my mail (to me from other people) sent to my account on the ISP, where I fetch it using a POP3 client. So far so good. I also want all outgoing mail to go directly by SMTP, unless it's destined for the local host -- e.g. system messages to root. Now smailconfig gives several options: (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. This mostly works, if I just give it my local host name, `home', but outgoing messages say they're from [EMAIL PROTECTED]' which is not a valid domain name, as far as the outside world is concerned. Aside from confusing people, some SMTP servers aparently reject my outgoing mail, because they can't resolve the domain. I've been able to get around this by using emacs mail mode, and hacking sendmail.el to call `sendmail -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (my ISP account). Though this seems to work, it has obvious shortcomings. (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): Nope, I don't use UUCP. (3) Satellite system: No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. This is no good, because local mail doesn't work. (4) Local delivery only: (5) No configuration: These won't do, either. What's the right way to do this? Thanks in advance for any help. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David S. Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration: Now I look for a way to rewrite my from line using smail.
> I configured smail using smailconfig using the following options: ... > > Now I look for a way to rewrite my from line using smail. Without any > interaction it would generate [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is obviously wrong > (as my really pop account is called [EMAIL PROTECTED]). > > Does smail support this? > This was on the list a while ago. Quoting " Lindsay Allen graciously sent me the following message, which *almost* solves the problem mentioned: > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 9 10:27:26 1997 > Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 12:36 MET > From: Christian Lynbech on satellite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: E-Mail address > Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:42:33 +0800 > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > >> I have a university account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and a linux box at > >> home. My account name is "joe" on the linux box, and I want all > >> outgoing mail to say it is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] How would I do > >> this? > > I use smail, configured as the `satellite' option. I did the following > in the `transports' file to resolve the name problem: > > smtp: driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet, > remove_header="From", > insert_header="From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($sender_name on satellite)"; > use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames > > which means that on outgoing posts (delievered via SMTP which is not > the default I believe), the from header is first removed and a new is > inserted. This gives me ordinary handling on local mail (internal on > the linux box) and my account name on everything that goes outside. However, when you're running on a local subnet that shares the dialup, and thus isn't "really" on the net, your box has no way of knowing whether the outgoing mail is staying on your subnet (and thus should not have its header rewritten), or if it's going to the Internet proper, and should have its From: header rewritten. HOWEVER, presumably local subnets are so small that you don't need to have DNS service to get their hostnames, and you instead store the names of the local boxes in /etc/hosts (which is what I do). Failing that, you should be able to match against local hosts using their IP number. (Local subnets not actually on the Internet shouldn't be using real IP numbers anyway, they should be using the "reserved" ones, like 10.0.0.0 or 192.168.0.0.) Is there a way to get smail to check for this, conditionally rewriting the From: header based on the result? This would give the flexibility demanded by dialup users and also permit RFC 822 compliance. I suspect someone would have to write their own "driver" for smail to do this. Is anyone up to this? -- G. Branden Robinson | Murphy's Guide to Science: Purdue University | If it's green or squirms, it's biology. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | If it stinks, it's chemistry. http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | If it doesn't work, it's physics. " -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Smail configuration, rewriting from line
I configured smail using smailconfig using the following options: ail generated on this system will have `bln.de' used as the host part (after the @) in the From: field and similar places. Message-ID's, Received lines, etc. will use the system's canonical hostname, which is currently set to marvin.bln.de. The following hostname(s) will be recognised as referring to this system: marvin.bln.de, bln.de Mail for postmaster, root, etc. will be sent to root. Local mail is delivered. Outbound remote mail is sent to mail.combox.de via SMTP and TCP/IP (using any MX records in the DNS). Everything works fine so far, if not online all external mail is queued and if online the mail are sent immediatly. Now I look for a way to rewrite my from line using smail. Without any interaction it would generate [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is obviously wrong (as my really pop account is called [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Does smail support this? I already tried the alias mechanism which is the other way round. Unfortunatly I couldn't find further information in the smail documentation or the smail FAQ. Thanks for your help, Torsten -- "And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space. Because there's bugger all down here on Earth" Monthy Python, Galaxy Song PGP Public key available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration?
"Kevin M. Bealer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to configure smail. I have read the documentation, > searched the source code for an hour or so, and tried to use the > generic configuration script at different settings. > > I have been at this for several days -- my mail is still bouncing. > > > I am on a system which does not have a permanent connection, rather it > has a dynamic IP through Penn State. > > > When the mail bounces, it comes back with a message to the effect that > the hostname in question does not exist. This is true of course, > since it is the hostname of the local system, which is a dial up dynamic > IP thing. > > When using the debian "configure smail" script, there are 5 or so > options. The UUCP to smarthost seems to be the closest, except that > instead of UUCP I want to use smtp. Unfortunately, there is not an > option like this, and although I have tried to modify that setup to > do the job, it seems to do about the same. > > Some hosts bounce, some do not -- I assume hosts that are trying to > prevent spam etc are bouncing more than those that aren't. > > People have to be using it this way... what is the trick? It shouldn't > make any difference, but I am using (mh). I have a Dialup Account with mail.combox.de being the smart host. I used the smailconfig program with selection (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. I had leave the visible names as suggested and entered the name of my smart host when asked about it. Then I choose: Do you wish to use the smarthost for: (1) All outbound mail. This is good if your system is poorly connected, eg via dialup SLIP, as you don't have to talk to distant machines yourself, and it allows you to send out just one copy of a message for all its the remote recipients. (2) seems reasonable as well too. Of course I answered that root should get all adminstrative messages. After doing this all worked fine. Local messages are transported immediatly. Remote messages are transported if I'm online, in offline state the messages are stored in the message queue and I have to invoke runq to send them while being online. Comparing to sendmail where I had to fiddle with the extensive flag smail seems to be much easier to configure, especially with the smailconfig script provided by the package. Torsten -- "What a depressingly stupid machine" The Restaurant at the End of the Universe PGP Public Key is available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration?
Your problem is that you will need to modify your hostname every time you connect to your PPP host so that your reverse lookup will match your hostname or you will never be able to send/recieve mail. There IS an alternative. If you can find someone that will act as a smarthost for you that is also UUCP capable, you could do uucp over tcp/ip to get/collect your mail from them no matter WHERE they happen to be. Here is one easy way of doing it: Go to ml.org and get a hostname in their domain ... say your system is called SPUNKY, you might try to get spunky.ml.org ... it is free but they WOULD like you to send a donation! Now, when you set up the spunky.ml.org hostname, they will ask you for an MX host. Simply put in the hostname of the MX host that you want to use. That system would then collect ALL mail for spunky.ml.org When you connect to penn state, you would then grab all of your mail from your MX host using UUCP over tcp/ip. You could also deposit all OUTGONG mail in the same transaction. You would, of course, use a visible host name in your smail config file of spunky.ml.org and you can FORGET about using penn states smtp altogether. If you use the uusmpt transport, there are not even any bang paths in the mail at all. This is impossible with sendmail and uucp but easilly done with smail. If you would like, I can provide such an MX service for you. It is a breeze using debian's smail and uucp. It is almost TRIVIAL. Email me privately if you are interested, I am going out for a couple of hours but will be back later. On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote: > > > I am trying to configure smail. I have read the documentation, > searched the source code for an hour or so, and tried to use the > generic configuration script at different settings. > > I have been at this for several days -- my mail is still bouncing. > > > I am on a system which does not have a permanent connection, rather it > has a dynamic IP through Penn State. > > > When the mail bounces, it comes back with a message to the effect that > the hostname in question does not exist. This is true of course, > since it is the hostname of the local system, which is a dial up dynamic > IP thing. > > When using the debian "configure smail" script, there are 5 or so > options. The UUCP to smarthost seems to be the closest, except that > instead of UUCP I want to use smtp. Unfortunately, there is not an > option like this, and although I have tried to modify that setup to > do the job, it seems to do about the same. > > Some hosts bounce, some do not -- I assume hosts that are trying to > prevent spam etc are bouncing more than those that aren't. > > People have to be using it this way... what is the trick? It shouldn't > make any difference, but I am using (mh). > > Thanks, > Kevin Bealer > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > George Bonser Why is it that the same people that tell us that manned space flight is a waste of money also tell us that we have been visited by aliens? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail configuration?
I am trying to configure smail. I have read the documentation, searched the source code for an hour or so, and tried to use the generic configuration script at different settings. I have been at this for several days -- my mail is still bouncing. I am on a system which does not have a permanent connection, rather it has a dynamic IP through Penn State. When the mail bounces, it comes back with a message to the effect that the hostname in question does not exist. This is true of course, since it is the hostname of the local system, which is a dial up dynamic IP thing. When using the debian "configure smail" script, there are 5 or so options. The UUCP to smarthost seems to be the closest, except that instead of UUCP I want to use smtp. Unfortunately, there is not an option like this, and although I have tried to modify that setup to do the job, it seems to do about the same. Some hosts bounce, some do not -- I assume hosts that are trying to prevent spam etc are bouncing more than those that aren't. People have to be using it this way... what is the trick? It shouldn't make any difference, but I am using (mh). Thanks, Kevin Bealer -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Smail Configuration
My preferred login on my machine is not the same as my userid with my ISP. Smail uses my login on this machine to form the "return_path_field". As a result, I can not receive messages from mailer-daemons about undeliverable mail, etc. Is there any way to make smail create the return_path_field in the way I want it? The smailconf manpage says "The /etc/smail/config file defines values for global variables used by smail.", and gives the default value of return_path_field as ``Return-Path: <$sender>''. I have inserted the following line in my /etc/smail/config file: return_path_field="Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" However, smail still forms the default return_path_field in my outgoing mail. Is there any way, short of compiling smail myself, to overcome this default behavior? Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
> "MS" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> (3) Satellite system: >> No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated >> on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. MS> Have you tried this? This one insists on sending mail to root on the local system to the ISP i use, so it's not _exactly_ what I'd use. There is some amount of mail going there... -- SSM - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen Trust the Computer, the Computer is your Friend -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
On Jul 14, Robert D. Hilliard wrote > In smailconfig, you must choose option (1), then after several > more questions, you give your ISP's mail server's name in response to: ... > This will give the results that I think the original poster was > looking for. Yes, it will. I was faced with the same dilemma about one and a half months ago. Option number one was the one I least suspected of being the right one. So, I tried all the others before finding out that 1 was the solution. IMHO, the fact that choice number 1 is the preferred option for SLIP/PPP users should be mentioned in the menu. Antti-Juhani -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
In smailconfig, you must choose option (1), then after several more questions, you give your ISP's mail server's name in response to: "Do you have a smarthost available (and accessible via SMTP) ? A smarthost is a system to which you forward mail you don't want to deliver yourself; it presumably has better connectivity or routing information than you do. Commercial providers usually provide a smarthost for their customers, and large organisations will often have a site mail switch which can be used. Use of a smarthost is strongly recommended (you'll be able to specify exactly when to use it soon). If a smarthost is available please enter its name (otherwise, `none'). Enter value (`x' to restart):" Then choose (1) to the following: "Do you wish to use the smarthost for: (1) All outbound mail. This is good if your system is poorly connected, eg via dialup SLIP, as you don't have to talk to distant machines yourself, and it allows you to send out just one copy of a message for all its the remote recipients. (2) Mail that you have failed to find a way to route. This means that mail for any unknown hosts or domains will be sent to the smarthost in the hope that it will know better; if it doesn't the smarthost should bounce it back to you. This is recommended for most situations, and usually results in faster end-to-end delivery than always using the smarthost. (3) Only mail to the `awkward' UUCP and BITNET domains. These domains don't appear in the Internet routing tables, and how to reach them varies depending on your location. Use this if your smarthost's admin has asked you to avoid using the smarthost unnecessarily, or if it is unreliable or very slow. Select a number from 1 to 3, from the list above." This will give the results that I think the original poster was looking for. Bob On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:02:05 Martin Schulze wrote: > > Bob Nielsen writes: > > > I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from > > smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1): > > > > You must choose one of the options below: > > (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this > > machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. > > (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): > > You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your > > smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery. > > This should be easily changable to use a smtp smarthost instead > of uucp smart host. > > > (3) Satellite system: > > No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated > > on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. > > Have you tried this? > > > (4) Local delivery only: > > You are not on a network. Mail for local users is delivered. > > (5) No configuration: > > No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and > > should not be used. You must then do the configuration yourself later > > or > > run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root. > > Umh I see, smailconfig lacks this special option. I'll send you > my configuration in a separate mail. > > Regards > > Joey > > -- > / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / > / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ > /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwächstes Glied / > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > 0 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
Bob Nielsen writes: > I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from > smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1): > > You must choose one of the options below: > (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this > machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. > (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): > You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your > smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery. This should be easily changable to use a smtp smarthost instead of uucp smart host. > (3) Satellite system: > No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated > on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. Have you tried this? > (4) Local delivery only: > You are not on a network. Mail for local users is delivered. > (5) No configuration: > No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and > should not be used. You must then do the configuration yourself later or > run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root. Umh I see, smailconfig lacks this special option. I'll send you my configuration in a separate mail. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwächstes Glied / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Martin Schulze wrote: > Alex Monaghan writes: > > Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ? > > > > Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, > > under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. > > > > I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the > > non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally. > > run smailconfig (run from postinst) and configure as internet > leaf site/ with smarthost. I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1): You must choose one of the options below: (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP. (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site): You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery. (3) Satellite system: No mail is to be delivered or routed here. Any mail generated on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP. (4) Local delivery only: You are not on a network. Mail for local users is delivered. (5) No configuration: No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and should not be used. You must then do the configuration yourself later or run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail configuration
Alex Monaghan writes: > Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ? > > Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, > under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. > > I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the > non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver > [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally. run smailconfig (run from postinst) and configure as internet leaf site/ with smarthost. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ /Eine Kette ist nur so stark wie ihr schwächstes Glied / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Smail configuration
Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ? Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally. Thanks -- -- Alex Monaghan Network Support Analyst, Royal Mail Anglia London Rd, Stevenage, SG1 1AA, UK Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] STD 01438 767081 Postline5811 7081 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail configuration has been lost after disk full runq errors
A few weeks ago, my system suffered an incident involving a full disk during which time there were a number of pretty major looking runq related errors. Since then, my system has been unable to clear out the mail queue. I have resorted to using the smtp-mail.el facility in emacs. Can someone advise whether there is some file that may have become corrupted during such an incident, that would make smail lose its cool? This system has been working reliably for over six months. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- "if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more" --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail configuration has been lost after disk full runq errors
A few weeks ago, my system suffered an incident involving a full disk during which time there were a number of pretty major looking runq related errors. Since then, my system has been unable to clear out the mail queue. I have resorted to using the smtp-mail.el facility in emacs. Can someone advise whether there is some file that may have become corrupted during such an incident, that would make smail lose its cool? This system has been working reliably for over six months. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- "if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more" --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail configuration has been lost after disk full runq errors
A few weeks ago, my system suffered an incident involving a full disk during which time there were a number of pretty major looking runq related errors. Since then, my system has been unable to clear out the mail queue. I have resorted to using the smtp-mail.el facility in emacs. Can someone advise whether there is some file that may have become corrupted during such an incident, that would make smail lose its cool? This system has been working reliably for over six months. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- "if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more" --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
smail configuration has been lost after disk full runq errors
A few weeks ago, my system suffered an incident involving a full disk during which time there were a number of pretty major looking runq related errors. Since then, my system has been unable to clear out the mail queue. I have resorted to using the smtp-mail.el facility in emacs. Can someone advise whether there is some file that may have become corrupted during such an incident, that would make smail lose its cool? This system has been working reliably for over six months. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- "if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, the utility of the article, including gratification which the user derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more" --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail configuration has been lost after disk full runq errors
Alan, I should have answered this too. Mail is sent by the runq command, which in turn is run from /var/spool/cron/crontabs/mail. This should have a command like 3,23,43 * * * * runq To fix this, su to mail and run crontab -e If this is not the trouble we need expert help. Lindsay On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: > > A few weeks ago, my system suffered an incident involving a full disk > during which time there were a number of pretty major looking runq > related errors. > > Since then, my system has been unable to clear out the mail queue. I > have resorted to using the smtp-mail.el facility in emacs. > > Can someone advise whether there is some file that may have become > corrupted during such an incident, that would make smail lose its > cool? > > This system has been working reliably for over six months. > > Alan Davis > > -- > Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E > Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 > Northern Mariana Islands > >---===+++#+++===--- > > "if a close inspection should show that the supposed hand-wrought > spoon were in reality only a clever imitation of hand-wrought goods, > but an imitation so cleverly wrought as to give the same impression > of line and surface to any but a minute examination by a trained eye, > the utility of the article, including gratification which the user > derives from its contemplation as an object of beauty, would > immediately decline by some eighty or ninety percent, or even more" > > --Thorsten Veblen, _The Theory of the Leisure Class_ > > > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 9316 2486modem +61 8 9364-9832 32S, 116E http: http://rolf.ece.curtin.edu.au/~lindsay debian linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .