Re: Using a remote computer and VGA
On Vi, 09 apr 21, 14:06:10, Richmond wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richmond wrote: > >> Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote > >> computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on > >> L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the > >> displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move > >> it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R? > > Probably not, and the issue is Netflix. The Netflix DRM talks > > directly to the hardware. > > > > My guess is that you would bring over a browser window with a > > big black window in it. > > > > You could try this with VNC; I think it would have the same > > problem, but I don't know for certain. > > > > What is the actual underlying problem you're trying to solve? > > > > -dsr- > > > I realised afterwards that a better explanation of what I am doing would > be something like remote desktop assistance, but I am so used to remote > X displays that I was trying to think in those terms. > > I have a pc next to the television which I use for watching netflix, but > it is in an awkward position to use, I want to use a different PC the > other side of the room to control it. A remote mouse and keyboard is > probably a better way to describe it. X11vnc does it. If the remote computer's display device is reasonably legible[1] you probably want 'barrier'. apt show barrier [1] in case the display is something like a TV you might want to force a wrong display size to tweak the DPI. Some TVs do that anyway via the EDID, check Xorg's log. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Using a remote computer and VGA
Richmond wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richmond wrote: > > I have a pc next to the television which I use for watching netflix, but > it is in an awkward position to use, I want to use a different PC the > other side of the room to control it. A remote mouse and keyboard is > probably a better way to describe it. X11vnc does it. Ah, OK. For casual use, you might consider the easy answer of adding a Logitech K400 -- a wireless keyboard and touchpad that will work across a large room, reasonably priced at under $30 US. -dsr-
Re: Using a remote computer and VGA
Dan Ritter wrote: > Richmond wrote: >> Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote >> computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on >> L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the >> displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move >> it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R? > Probably not, and the issue is Netflix. The Netflix DRM talks > directly to the hardware. > > My guess is that you would bring over a browser window with a > big black window in it. > > You could try this with VNC; I think it would have the same > problem, but I don't know for certain. > > What is the actual underlying problem you're trying to solve? > > -dsr- > I realised afterwards that a better explanation of what I am doing would be something like remote desktop assistance, but I am so used to remote X displays that I was trying to think in those terms. I have a pc next to the television which I use for watching netflix, but it is in an awkward position to use, I want to use a different PC the other side of the room to control it. A remote mouse and keyboard is probably a better way to describe it. X11vnc does it.
Re: Using a remote computer and VGA
Darac Marjal wrote: > On 08/04/2021 22:51, Richmond wrote: >> Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote >> computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on >> L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the >> displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move >> it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R? >> > Not extactly, but this might work as an alternative. You will probably > want to use something like X11VNC > (https://packages.debian.org/buster/x11vnc). Unlike the standard VNC > server (which starts a separate display), X11VNC is designed for sharing > a real display. > > The way this would work is that you start by SSHing to R. But you don't > need to forward X this time, just create a tunnel to port 5900 (the VNC > port): ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 root@remote-host > > Leave that SSH tunnel open and start a VNC client on L (running > "aptitude search '~Pvnc-viewer'" offers some options there). Connect the > VNC client to "localhost:5900". This is port 5900 on L, but the SSH > tunnel will pipe that through to port 5900 on R and you should be able > to see what's on screen on R. > > Et voila, as they say in France, you now have a remote control of the > screen on R. > > > Fantastique! Formidable! Thanks! I have it working. There is a minor issue in that I cannot move the mouse all the way onto the monitor, I will have to investigate that.
Re: Using a remote computer and VGA
On 08/04/2021 22:51, Richmond wrote: > Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote > computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on > L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the > displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move > it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R? > Not extactly, but this might work as an alternative. You will probably want to use something like X11VNC (https://packages.debian.org/buster/x11vnc). Unlike the standard VNC server (which starts a separate display), X11VNC is designed for sharing a real display. The way this would work is that you start by SSHing to R. But you don't need to forward X this time, just create a tunnel to port 5900 (the VNC port): ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 root@remote-host Leave that SSH tunnel open and start a VNC client on L (running "aptitude search '~Pvnc-viewer'" offers some options there). Connect the VNC client to "localhost:5900". This is port 5900 on L, but the SSH tunnel will pipe that through to port 5900 on R and you should be able to see what's on screen on R. Et voila, as they say in France, you now have a remote control of the screen on R. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Using a remote computer and VGA
Richmond wrote: > Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote > computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on > L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the > displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move > it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R? Probably not, and the issue is Netflix. The Netflix DRM talks directly to the hardware. My guess is that you would bring over a browser window with a big black window in it. You could try this with VNC; I think it would have the same problem, but I don't know for certain. What is the actual underlying problem you're trying to solve? -dsr-
Re: Using a remote computer and VGA
Richmond wrote: > Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote > computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on > L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the > displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move > it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R? I doubt. Usually you have 10 to 1 down/upload speed for the customer network so even this would be possible I doubt that you can render and transfer the data over TCP/IP with sufficient quality. What is the issue with VPN or proxy? Have you tought of such? There is still the limitation in the traffic, but you haven't the issue with the rendering at least.
Using a remote computer and VGA
Is it possible to use a local computer (L) to: ssh -Y to a remote computer (R), run a web browser on R which will then display on L, choose what to watch on Netflix, and then having started it, move the displayed browser window back to the X window on R, and then move it across to the television attached to the VGA port on R?
